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621  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much does it cost to have your own Casino? on: February 28, 2024, 03:06:49 PM
It is indeed quite easy to build an online casino, I don't know how much it costs to provide slots in the casino you own, I don't think it's that simple, is there no audit, and other stages, there are many service providers on the forum or outside the forum for build a casino site, only at a fantastic cost

I totally disagree that it is easy to built or run a casino. Not everyone can own or develop a casino. You need to know How Much Does it Cost to Open a Casino? [Land-Based & Online].
This is not like getting a website, applying a theme and you are ready to start a business. In this business model, you need to have a big initial capital so that you can pay off the gambler's winnings initially from your pocket. Also, the cost and scenario is different for the  physical and online casinos and a proper case study needs to be analyzed before you think of starting this business.

exactly! the step to be taken for this will not be easy, a large amount must be released to do this and it also requires intense study and analysis before it is implemented completely. I think it will cost a lot for installing slot providers, and a larger amount if you build a physical casino itself, It will cost millions, not just a typical amount, that's why we were not know the exact amount we need because we haven't tried it yet.
622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: This was my highest risk. on: February 28, 2024, 12:51:41 AM
I've never bet anything so large that I would end up in a much worse position than I started in.  I know serious gamblers, or more so professional gamblers, which I think is the more appropriate word, tend to take such large risks, but it's part of their game/job and it's just how they have to bet to make it work as a career.  This is why unless you're that, I just wouldn't ever recommend doing something of this nature.
There is a significant distinction between recreational and professional gambling. A recreational gambler is doing it for enjoyment, thus they are likely to be more conservative with their wagers. A professional gambler is doing it for a living, thus they are more prone to take risks in order to win big. People should comprehend the difference between the two and only gamble with money they can afford to lose.

It's like the opposite if we understand it, right? because those who play gambling just for fun, they should be the ones who don't care about the money they take out, they should be the ones who are stronger to lose money compared to the gamblers who make it a means of living. Anyways, no matter what the explanation is, there is only one thing that is most important of all, we should always be careful when gambling and we will only use the money we can afford to lose or spend without regret.
623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you are not to gamble. on: February 27, 2024, 10:39:47 PM
You can add these two:

When you win little, do not gamble on that day again. But some gamblers will feel like they should continue to gamble and they will lose at the end of the day.

When you are addicted. Quit gambling for a long time.

That's one of the best strategy that I've been doing since then, and it works to me that's why I didn't lose big chunk of money in my pocket because whenever I win, especially if it's smaller amount, I thought carefully first if I can still place a bet for the money I have or if I should stop first because maybe in the end I will continue to lose. Gambling is really risky and you need courage especially when it comes to money and the values ​​of money used or consumed in it are no joke.
624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: February 27, 2024, 11:28:37 AM
That's right, I know about it too, the stremers or influencers who do gambling shows with very lucrative results are nothing more than casino agents who act as a party to promote certain sites that do cooperate with them along with certain agreements behind the scenes. They get large amounts of winnings and it looks very easy for them, but on the other hand you already feel that it is very difficult to get such winnings when you are playing yourself

Yeah. Some casinos offer them direct cash for such streams and some other casinos do not give them cash but the streamers get the affiliate commission from their players who sign up after watching their stream. It depends on the steamer's popularity. If there are some popular streamer who has millions of followers, they earn hundreds thousands of dollars per month just from those streaming promotions.

They simply make us fool and we are nothing but just victims. Players should not follow streamers and should not try the same way they did. Some of those streamers does not even check if their players get their winnings or not.
Casino streamers usually work to fulfill strategies for their interests. Their streams are usually done very professionally definitely all these streamers are fake just watch them for fun never believe their wins and losses they sometimes fake it to attract new customers. To lure gamblers and sites like stake and roubet are paying popular streamers to play casino games on their channels sometimes offering hundreds of thousands of dollars per hour.

that's true, most of the streamers act only because it's part of their job, there are a few who just naturally enjoy what they do but the majority is just for their income and that's fine because we all have that side and all of us will do any way to earn money even if we don't like something because we don't have a choice.
The promotion of gambling using streaming is one of the easy ways to earn a lot of money.
625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does casino streamers have influence in your gambling life? on: February 27, 2024, 02:26:17 AM

Let's just say when it comes to influencers, generally their following is of mixed followers from newbie's to pro gamblers..
 and the fact that some users aren't influenced by these streamers could mean you aren't the target market simple as that .
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Some people say that they are not influenced by the streamers because they are not interested in gambling, but if we survey, many viewers are truly influenced by the streamers because first they idolize them and the second is that streamers are the first one who recognized the gambling that they are playing now, if it wasn't for the promotion of streamers, they would have no idea about that. There are still a few people who don't trust what they see or read on social media, so if many viewers are influenced, it just means that you are an effective promoter and you are good at attracting players.
626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: February 26, 2024, 11:44:05 PM
Just trying to get the communities opinion based on their experience about the topic.

Personally, a a bettor, I find it very stressful when watching the game you are betting especially if it will end up a losing bet.

If we have the same experience, how do you cope up with that problem, after all, gambling should be fun but why we have this kind of feeling that we feel disappointed when our bet loses?

That all depends how you define "fun" I guess. Some people would watch horror movies or go to roller-coaster rides, get scared (which is a negative emotion) but still consider it fun.
Placing a wager on a game is a bit similar. It provides way more excitement than watching a game without having any stake in it.
If you value nice, relaxing time over high emotions and excitement, then watch without betting.
I would always advise against betting too much. It's a bad habit and will cause too much stress. You don't have to bet a lot to have a feeling of having a skin in the game.

Watching while having a bet is giving you more excitement and a little bit of nervous because of the money that you've risk on that game that's why whenever you watch betting game, It will give you a roller coaster emotion that you can't explain if you are supposed to be happy, sad, nervous etc. I agree to you, placing too much bet money that you can't afford to loose will give you a problem and stress, so do not pressure yourself to placed larger bet just because other people doing it, You have to follow your own instincts as well.
627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it ethical to break your gambling rules on: February 26, 2024, 09:53:53 PM
My recent experience from gambling, prompted me to ask this question,  and just as the title stated clearly,  you can easily deduce what I am trying to ask in this thread


My experience
In the last two weeks, I have been on a steady roll in gambling and most of the stakes I placed are mostly in sports bets, dice, and spin, all these games are luck-based games unless for football that requires a little bit of analysis.


That being said, this week I noticed that I have continued in the same trend despite that I have a personal gambling rule, not to gamble for two weeks consecutively,  but unknowingly for me I am already in the third week without adhering to my own rule.


So this led me to ask the general public if I am gambling too much, although this excess didn't affect my finances in any way since I still managed to come out with little winning at the end of the day and at some level, my losses are still below 30 percent of my set out money.

to me, since you set rules for yourself and you didn't follow them, it's like you said that all rules are ignored in other things. Is that why you set rules for yourself to prevent you from reaching the point where you become addicted to gambling? If yes, there is a big chance that you will become a gambling addict because of the mere fact that you don't follow your own rules, what more if you experience winning a large amount of money? maybe you'll break the rules you made even more, or worse, you'll have no one to listen to.
628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Wins: Your Money Was Returned to You. on: February 26, 2024, 02:50:48 PM
When I was addicted, I lost money than I won. It was even a huge loss.

Later I do not gamble often. I can count the number of times I am gambling annually and not many at all. I only go for the games that I know I will most likely win. Because of this infrequently gambling, I make profit than loss.

But if you gamble frequently or not, just use the money that you can afford to lose to gamble and do not go more than your gambling budget which should be a small amount of money that you can afford to lose.
Nice strategy. I did the same thing after I lost the biggest bet I have ever placed in gambling before, I think that was less than a $100. I have a hard time moving on that time that is why I abstain for awhile until such time I just accepted the fact that I wasn't that lucky for that game. But I just came back to gambling few years back and yeah I have more control of myself than before and even spend only extra money I have so it won't hurt if I lose all of it.

Wow, that's a nice strategy and I also want to do that because I have this thing that I don't want to monitor all my gambling activites especially the money that I've spent because I'm strictly following my spending habits and I'm sure that I'm not addicted into It, but yeah, I just wan't to try your strategy so that I can lessen my gambling time and I can have more time in other important things.
629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: stop the unnecessary blame on gambling whenever you get unlucky on: February 26, 2024, 02:16:59 PM
Let them do what they want OP, these people that are blaming themselves aren't going to stop anytime soon just because they're constantly reminded that it doesn't do anything to the game and that blaming leads to nothing, I think that it's best to let them do their thing. This kind of people will almost always come to their senses on their own and they'll stop eventually, if we don't want to be like this, the easiest solution would be to stop gambling, that's the easiest I think. Think of this as someone who believes in luck, there are some things that they can just explain so they leave the explanation as fate or luck, much easier that way, it's the same with these people blaming the game, they want some outlet for their frustrations.
Yes, no matter how other people would really be telling that they shouldnt really be doing this but still it wont really be that enough for them to be stopped on what they are doing.
This is why it would really be better that letting be on what they are gonna going to do would really be just that fine. They are the ones who would really be messing up their lives on the time that they would really be making out such bad decision on which it will really be affecting their lives later on. We do know that on the time that we are unlucky then we do love on having those kind of blaming
into other people or with the platform itself. You wont really be finding yourself that getting contented and would be going into other people to be blamed on.
You wont really be blaming your own self no matter what. hehehe

Usually this type of people put the blame on other people or casino so if we don't want to experience those bad words to them by trying to stop or advice them much better if we just let them experience about other negative consequences that will happen to them.

yeah that's true, it's better for them to experience the things that don't fit their plan so that they can learn and experience it early so that they can avoid doing it the next time. When you give advice to someone even if it hasn't happened yet, it used to be like spoon-feeding them, so maybe we shouldn't lead the time.

630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What game will you choose for one shot big bet? on: February 26, 2024, 01:39:17 PM
Whatever type of gambling game I choose, I almost never make big bets in that game. because apart from minimizing huge game losses. This also really helps me to be wiser in managing my gambling finances.

That's a good decision,actually you don't need to bet a large amount while thinking that you will also win a large amount because it can be the reason for your greediness in gambling. You just made the right decision because that way you will learn to manage your money better and you will learn to follow the rules you made for yourself.
631  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Philippines SEC will Ban Binance. Effectivity End of Feb. 2024 on: February 26, 2024, 09:45:37 AM

Inaayos na rin siguro yan ng Binance... ito yung reply nila dun sa nag inquire na kabayan natin...

So sa ngayon, wala munang dapat gawin at aware naman pala talaga sila sa nangyayari. Kung umabot man sa deadline, hindi mafefreeze ang mga accounts.

Yan din ang pagkakaintindi ko pero hindi man ma-freeze kung ibblock ng government ung website nila pag natuluyan yung sinasabi ng SEC mapipilitan ka ng gumamit ng VPN para maaccess yung funds mo, medyo alanganin kasi baka yun naman ang maging dahilan ng pagfreeze ng account, sa akin lang eh aabang muna ako kung anong pwedeng mang yari at kung meron mga kabayan natin na makakagamit pa rin ng serbisyo ng binance kahit na nablock na sila dito sa pinas, medyo risky pero sigurado akong ang mga pinoy eh palaging may paraan yan, ika nga eh pag gusto may paraan, pag ayaw eh may dahilan. hehehe

    Bakit pa ako gagamitng vpn kung meron naman na akong ibang alternative para sa binance, diba? Naiintindihan ko naman na lahat tayo dito ay nanghihinayang sa magandang service na pinakita ito pagdating sa p2p transaction, pero wala na tayong magagawa sa bagay na yan. Sabihin na nating aware nga sila sa news dito sa bansa natin sa SEC anunsyo sa kanila, pero diba dapat kung mahalaga ang community ng crypto sa bansa natin sa kanila dapat pinaparamdam nila sa mga crypto community sa bansa natin na wala tayong dapat na ikabahala?

    Kaya sa reply nilang yan, hindi ko ramdam na pursigido talaga silang makipagsettle sa bansa natin sa ilalim ng SEC agency na meron tayo. Sorry pero ito talaga yung nararamdaman ko sa hakbang na ginagawa nila sa totoo lang naman din.

Yun nga kabayan sa tono ng sagot nila eh parang walang urgency sa kanila yung mangyayaring block na gagawin ng SEC natin kung kasi importante sa kanila  meron na dapat silang akyon  na gagawin pero yung sagot parang sinabi lang na gagawan namin ng paraan pero walang detalyadong paraan at kelan nila saagutin yung  issue, kung meron ka ng gagamiting alternatibo  mainam yan kesa mag take ng risk sa pag gamit ng VPN, makaksanayan mo din naman yan pag palagi mo ng gimagawa.

Siguro ayaw lang nila mag create ng panic dahil  once umingay lalo na papalapit na ang pag ban sa kanila sa bansa natin ay tiyak mas maapektuhan sila lalo. Tsaka siguro wala na sila talagang magagawa dyan dahil di din siguro nila kinaya ang requirements na hinihingi para makakuha sila ng license sa bansa natin. Sa ngayon habang papatapos na ang buwan ng Pebrero ay mainam na mag monitor nalang tayo since yun nalang ang magagawa natin at e make sure natin na wala na tayong funds na naiwan dahil mahirap na baka magkaipitan at matuloy talaga na di na natin ma access ang Binance sa susunod na buwan.

At di narin ako mag risk sa pag gamit ng VPN dahil sobrang delikado nyan, may available exchange pa naman na pwedeng magamit kaya lipat nalang muna siguro ako dun at maghintay kung may bagong ganap ganap ba o wala na talaga.

Same here kabayan, hindi na din kami nag risk pa sa pag gamit ng VPN kahit madami ang nag aadvice na pwede padin ipagpatuloy ang paggamit ng binance dahil syempre mahirap din sumugal lalo na't doon natin ihohold ating mga holdings. Mas mainam din talaga na kailangan secured ang mga gagamitin natin lalo na kung usapang pera ang involved dito. Hindi ko nadin naman nakikitang may progress or pagkilos ang binance group sa ating bansa kaya malaking bagay nadin na nakapag desisyon kami ng maaga kaysa maghintay.
632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling games that gives you an exciting experience on: February 26, 2024, 01:57:22 AM
I prefer crash, dice and slot games, I play different games every day, in my opinion, when I play I get an emotional sensation and I enjoy it when I play, I know what I play is just luck and not It requires too much skill, but I'm comfortable playing

Yeah, same as mine. I prefer to play dice and slot games recently because It's just easy to play and it only requires your money, time and depends to your luck if you're going to win or not. It does not require any skills that's why I see it as a stress free game but I don't know to others, but yeah, it is really interesting to play because you have no idea when will you shoot the win.
633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you won a bet with your last cash? on: February 26, 2024, 01:02:49 AM
People do talk about winning bet with their last cash but I haven't experience it before. Most times this type of winning most make people get committed back to sport betting after being tired of it after a lot of loses.

Same here! If that will happen to me, for sure I will not risk my last money for that bet because I don't know if I'm going to win or not and nobody knows as well. Whenever I have my last penny, I do keep them to myself and I always secure the last money that I have so that I can't be zero balance in the end.
634  Economy / Economics / Re: Isn't it all about money? on: February 25, 2024, 09:03:55 PM
What's the essence of all the hustle and bustle and learning and reading and keeping all the sleepless night? Isn't it all about money?


That's why if we discuss the issue of money. No matter how long it takes, there will be no end.



yeah, there is no end if we tackle about it because like what i've always mentioned, even in the smallest and simpliest thing, we needs money to achieve that. look, even the new born babies you mentioned need money or financial support from their parents because if you don't have money, where will you get to have milk, clothes, vitamins and what other important things will be needed of babies. So that's why everyone says that money is very important in this world, and there are a few who almost worship it because it is the only god they recognize which is also wrong and should not be done.
635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Phase Or Are You Slowing Down Your Gambling Activity When.... on: February 25, 2024, 08:17:39 PM


I'm just glad that I'm not deep in gambling and I still have control so I can stop anytime if I want to, and it's worth it that we can stop from time to time it's good for the body and the mind, and just come back a week after the Holy week so it's a two-week rest of body and mind.

precisely! sometimes we need a break just to relax our mind, so  for the next time you play gambling, your brain will be refreshed and you will be able to focus more on what you have to do. It also helps to stop a little so that your playing does not lead to addiction and of course to avoid running out of money, gambling should only be done occasionally, not everyday and it should be done and treat as a normal entertainment not a job.
636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler lost what he couldn't afford to lost and broke his TV after game Lost on: February 25, 2024, 03:29:02 PM
That's nothing strange in my circles!

I've seen folks smash their TVs after their team chokes in a big game.  They ain't even got money on it! The difference is they got cash to burn so they just buy another flatscreen right after.  Probably an upgrade over the busted one and  i knew this guy who put his fist through the screen when his squad lost in the finals - had a cast on for weeks but you better believe he had a new TV delivered that same day.  Yeah, fandom makes you crazy sometimes.
I wouldn't say the neighbour of the OP is nothing compared to your circle of friends because the OP's neighbour lacks in money while your circle of friends is the opposite of it. They can do those things maybe because they are heavily attached on their teams already but are people like this still normal? Maybe not really and that is why they can do those crazy stuffs we are discussing here.

Normal? Not at all. They are definitely the craziest of the bunch.

However, while they will sometimes take out their frustrations on technology or other material things, they're not prone to easily losing their temper in interpersonal relationships.  So I would say that such people are still OK, as long as they don't get physical with other people.


We all have that bunch of crazy friends and that's normal. As you've said, They know how to control their temper once bad thing happens to them while doing gambling and for me, that's the safest and better things we need to do in order to avoid negative things happen in our daily life. It's hard because when you reach the point of just making a mistake or just a little problem with gambling, you will immediately start to get angry. We must know how to calm ourselves when we encounter such problems so that we can better think of a proper solution.
637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why People Have Different Perception Of Gambling Operators on: February 25, 2024, 03:03:37 PM
I just noticed here in our city, that two brothers own different gambling platforms people have different impressions of each one of them, the first one owns a lottery outlet and he is getting respect from people from all walks of life, people look upon him as a giver of luck because many people hit consolations from his Lotto outlet

Photo from Phoenix Lotto FBpage



The other one is the owner of Cockpit Arena and many people despise him because many of their husbands and fathers lose a lot of money and go home empty-handed

I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

Probably were on the same country and I noticed that too, that there's a different impression from other people based on the gambling activity that they play or operate but it's not all about the type of gambling itself, but because of the impact and outcome of that gambling to other people. Actually both lotto outlet and Cockpit fight is risky but in my opinion, Lotto has the tendency to give you an addiction because you will never notice that you will always buy lotto ticket, as in everyday and not complaining about the money you use for buying tickets.
The cockpit fighting just looks worse because a lot of money is needed to place a bet unlike the lottery where only a small amount is used to buy the ticket but if we count and total it, it seems like we lose more if we spend every day to buy tickets rather than placing a bet ocassionally in cock pit fight.
638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for fun and not a way of making money on: February 25, 2024, 02:20:31 PM
In fact, the meaning of gambling is entertainment but wondering how it changed and became known as a money-maker. This is probably because of these gambling influencers who always say -multiply your money through gambling which changed the mindset of most gamblers, especially beginners. The strategy is quite working so well and many people are encouraged to gamble after seeing some players win the jackpot and become rich instantly. It sticks in their mind and that also gives them a reason why they are gambling already. We even see a lot of poor people gambling hoping to win big time and change their life.

maybe because many people have proven that it is possible to make a lot of money gambling, especially if you know how to use the money you win properly. it is really just for the entertainment of other people because it was made as a game but because money has come with it and money is needed to be able to play here, that's when gamblers realized that it can be made into one of our sources of income.

639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why in some religion gambling is forbidden? on: February 25, 2024, 10:32:10 AM
So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?

In fact, if seen from its first use, gambling for pleasure, and seeking pleasure in a good and positive way will not be prohibited.
but in practice, gambling is used as a way to multiply money. gamble with money and luck. it's something uncertain and it's considered not good.
not to mention gambling which ultimately has more negative impacts when gamblers are irresponsible. it can harm the gambler himself and also harm other people. that is considered not good.

Agree, Gambling is seen as one of the bad activities based on what a religion believes, so it is strictly forbidden to do this activity. it really helps sometimes to earn money but like you mentioned, it can end up in bad deeds when people don't control themselves gambling, they can do other bad things if it reaches the point that you are addicted in gambling and that is what other religions avoid so it is strictly prohibited


640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Outcomes of insighting gambling for a source of income. on: February 25, 2024, 09:52:29 AM
This is just a normal act done by most gamblers, some of them are jobless people without a source of income, they have refuse to change and I'm sure your friend will go back to gambling but I think he needs a little advice never to borrow money for a higher expectation, this is very bad and most people can end up taking their life if the money is so huge.
What's the point taking loan to gamble and besides gambling is unpredictable so how sure to the extend of borrowing money.

If you really care to your friend, then give them a piece of advice that never ever borrow money just to gamble because it will turn them having a big problem if ever they didn't manage theirself.
If a person end up taking their life, surely that they are having worst and depressing time and that's sad to know.
so it's better that while it's still early, we can prevent the things that can happen so that it doesn't lead to such an event like suicide.
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