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1241  Economy / Economics / Re: How do you work toward hodling bitcoin? on: November 14, 2023, 08:34:29 AM
If I understand correctly. You want to build a business with BTC, sell products/services and collect the BTC from it. If it's so, first of all not all businesses succeed. If you have got faith in btc, which appears you do, why not just hold onto btc, why make this unnecessary fuss of selling and collecting again?
I think there's a lot of possible ways to build a business while securing your btc holdings. People should learn how to earn multiple source of income and if you're planning to build a business, make sure you have a budget for it and that your money will not be diverted to investments.
having a business is important to a person because you'll be able to work in a field that you really want and it gives you a freedom to put your skills and k owledge in terms of what business you want to build, Same as having an investment because it allows your money to outspace inflation and increase its value.
1242  Economy / Economics / Re: Being rich = not looking at price tag on: November 14, 2023, 08:16:00 AM
Well I am not rich but I do know some people that do have alot of extra money. And they can be some of the most cheap people there is.
Some of the time people are very rich is because they do not spend alot of the money they have. So if they are cheap with their money they will have more.
I think if I was a rich person I would still look at the price tags. I want to get a good deal and not think  I am being taken advantage for just since I have alot of money.
that's how people being wise in budgeting and savings, They keep on saving and investing so when the time came that they need money, they have something in their pockets. Example on what happened last pandemic season in our country, government announced lock down then all of a sudden, people goes to Supermarket and grocery store to buy stock foods and essential without hesitation and without having a budget list and it doesn't matter to them how much the total cost as long as they already secured their needs during the lockdown. In that way, you'll see that those normal people we don't think have money are actually rich in a simple way.
1243  Local / Altcoins (Pilipinas) / Re: Mga ragnarok classic gamer maganda ito on: November 14, 2023, 06:45:24 AM

tama , kaya naman lumakas sa grinding pero still hindi sapat sa kayang ma attain ng mayayaman , and ung isang taon nating i grind eh isang oras lang nila kaya napaka unfair na at wala na talagang challenge , mahilig pa naman ako sa FPK sa mga ganyang games , kaso pano ka makikipag Duel or FPK kung sobrang mga halimaw ang katapat mo  Grin Grin
tayo ang target nila lalo na nababasa ng AI ang mga search natin kaya ganon nalang ang labas ng kanilang mga ads sa accounts natin , kaya tuloy di na ako interesado sa mga ads at binablock ko na agad mga ganyang lumalabas.
Buwenas nga yung mga nakakakuha ng card. Sobrang baba ng drop rate ng cards kaya tumigil na din ako, naenjoy ko naman yung laro pero nakakadismaya lang talaga na yung iba basta nakaavail noong bot/auto nila, easy na sa palevel. One time pumunta ako sa mapa na free PK, ayun dedo agad ako dahil daming items at taas na rin ng level ng mga nanti-trip doon.
Kaya nga , parang biglang nawala yong mga gana natin , hindi dahil sa wala tayong pang gastos kasi minsan sa kaadikan kaya mo talaga mag ubos ng pera lalo nag na enjoy mona ang games, pero nakita ko na parang one sided na eh parang naka design na ang games sa mga DONOR na tinatawag or Donator sa iba kung tawagin , though totoo namang sila ang bumubuhay sa laro pero sana hindi ganon kalaki ang diperensya ng regular players sa donators.
though Ok na din siguro na nangyari yon dahil at least nabawasan tayo ng pinag kakaubusan ng oras at makapag focus sa pagkakakitaan.
Sa totoo lang mas madami ang magagastos  mo sa larong ito kaysa sa earnings lalo na totoong mababa ang drop rate ng cards. May pinsan ako na nag sspend ng almost thousands din para sa mga items, Nag eenjoy naman sya kaso tumigil din after ilang years kasi naisip niya na hindi worth it pag gastusan dahil hindi naman sya kumita, hindi naman nya masasabing sayang kasi nag enjoy sya sa paglalaro lalo na kasagsagan ng pandemic and lockdown.
1244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Health Benefits of Gambling on: November 14, 2023, 06:23:18 AM
You can only reap the health benefits of gambling if you're gambling responsibly and there's no pressure to win when you deviate from this you will feel the pressure to make money which will result in headaches and depression.
Our doctors recommend that we do all things moderately and we should do things in good spirits you can do this in gambling if understand the fact that you cannot win all the time in gambling and your chances are when you're lucky.
So next time you are in front of a gambling table or dashboard be sure to have fun enjoy the game and don't mind about the profit you will feel fine and enjoy the health benefits that come from gambling.
 

There is no actual health benefit to be gotten by most people from gambling. People who play recreationally and for fun would probably have some stress relieved from their bodies as they’re doing something they enjoy doing.
This isn’t the case for everyone as people gamble for fun as well as a host of other reasons. I think any stress free pastime activity that an individual enjoys doing would naturally relieve stress in that person. These health benefits are not beneficial for everyone and not solely gotten from gambling as an activity.
You are right, there are many ways in which we can eliminate our stress other than gambling, but at the same time it does not really hurt to have an additional source that we can use on demand.

Since it is well known that chronic stress not only affects our emotional well-being but it can also affect our overall health as well, so it is important to find ways to get rid of that stress, and if some people can accomplish this by gambling a little bit then that is a small price to pay for such a health benefit.
It's totally okay if you are using gambling as a way to reduce stress but you're right that there's a lot of other ways to eliminate it however, sometimes once a person used to do a thing, they are comfortable to repeatedly doing it without thinking the consequences, plus the fact that they can earn money while stress free playing. Sooner or later, they wull realize that gambling will give more stress to them once they see that they are frequestly losing such amount.
1245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Gambling Generally An Illicit Activity? on: November 14, 2023, 04:44:19 AM
Basically gambling is an activity that is prohibited and if someone does it and is caught they will most likely be punished or sanctioned, but why is gambling still sought after by many people, because they see that in gambling they will get pleasure if they do it. lucky or winning. and of course they will also have fun there.
If there is a country that legalizes gambling, I think people will definitely be free and play as they please without thinking about punishment, but if that country prohibits casinos then it is very likely that people will play in secret, for fear of being discovered. police.
Casinos and any gambling activities are legalized nowadays so there's no reason for them to hide and to play in secret, unless they are participating in any illegal gambling sites that aren't registered or no authorization to operate. Sometimes they call it an Illicit Activity based on their Religion because some religion are prohibited to linked in any gambling activities or anything that money and obsessions are involved. also one of the main reason why people see it in a negative way because they know that some people  had an unfortunate and ruined life because of gambling addiction.
1246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your parent disinherit you eventhough you have not proven to be chronic gambler on: November 14, 2023, 04:11:20 AM
There are legal regulations in country that regulate inheritance rights which can be revoked if the owner of the inheritance rights or child has made big mistake, but this all also depends on how the parents respond to their child mistakes.
I don't think it appropriate for parents to revoke their children inheritance rights because they carry out gambling activities and everything can be resolved until there is the best solution, such as providing special requirements that have been officially given to legal representatives.
Honestly, I have never heard of case like this where parents disinherit their child just because he is gambler.

And things like this will cause conflict between family members and result in disputes or hatred in the future.
As parents, you must be able to provide fair treatment to each child, even though the distribution of inheritance rights is full right that parents have, they still have to be able to provide the best for their children.
Since I have no background when it comes to legal advices, its better to consult in any legal professionals, but I think parents has the right to not give a child an inheritance right as long as they prove that their child is a chronic gambler, I dont think parents doesn't have basis why they say that their child is in that situation, maybe they are so fed up and they always see their child in a gambling situation, They conclude that once they give their child an inheritance, it will lose quickly because of his/her Gambling addiction.
1247  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Nirerecomend Mo Ba Ang Article Na Ito Sa Mga Baguhan Sa Bitcoin on: November 13, 2023, 01:30:58 PM
Iniisip ko kung ano ang point ng article na yan in terms of 400 times ng namatay ang Bitcoin. Ngayon ko lang nalaman yang article na ganyan honestly speaking lang naman. May mga nababasa ako before dito sa forum na ang title is Bitcoin is dead, pero siyempre ang iniisip ko lang naman kapag may nagsasabi ng ganyan ay strategy lang marahil nung tao na sa palagay nya ay babagsak ang price value ni Bitcoin sa merkado.

At kapag ngyari ng bumagsak ay siya naman nyang sasamantalahin na bumili ng madaming bitcoins then sila naman maghold sa long-term parang ganun lang yung logic na nakikita ko sa bagay na yan honestly speaking.
sa tingin ko lang mate at sa pagkakaunawa ko , ang laman ng articles is kung gaanong beses na maituturing na halos dying na ang Bitcoin but proving it can grow back to what is the recent , meaning mga ups and downs na pwede na sana sabihing kamatayan na .
at patunay lang din to kung gaano katibay ang katatagan ng bitcoin in terms of people support and usage so ang essence is may magbebenta at may bibili , and ang dulo eh lahat ng naniwala at nagtiwala ang magwawagi.
so wala pa ding tatalo sa Holding ng bitcoin for long term mate.
Ganito din ang pagkakaintindi ko, pinapakita sa article na ito yung katatagan ng bitcoin na kahit ilang beses na syang halos bumagsak, dumating padin yung days na umangat at mas tumaas pa ang value nito, meaning ay walang sayang or tapon sa mga nag invest lalo na sa mga nauna na naghold na maraming bitcoin. Proven na it's good for a long term investment lalo na sa mga risk takers and naniniwala sa kakayahan ng coin na ito.
1248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: November 13, 2023, 01:18:12 PM
Gambling sometimes appeals to people who don't have enough money because it presents a chance to change their financial status like me. I'm hoping for potentially solving immediate financial issues or providing a sense of escape from my current circumstances.

Despite the risks involved the possibility of hitting a jackpot or winning enough to address financial struggles can be a strong motivator. It's a way for some to dream of a better future even if the odds are not in their favor.

There's nothing bad if we are making money through gambling, what we should also have in mind is the acknowledgement of times that we may not be able to have this same experience over time, we know that gambling is full of risk, we cannot also dispute the fact that so many people were already loosing or making out their money through gambling despite knowing that it's not a means of making money, but when we realized such opportunity in it to make money, we shouldn't hesitate to grab such because we are the same person who had always been gambling with the money we have.
Yeah, There's nothing wrong if you're making money through gambling but be reminded that this shouldn't be treated as main job or something that helps you in a day to day expenses. Sometimes people hoping to win because they didn't have money left in their pocket which is not a good thing to do because in the first place, you should know your limitations and you should be aware what will be the outcome once you lose money in gambling repeatedly.
1249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Question for those who loose too frequently in gambling on: November 13, 2023, 12:14:54 PM
I always tell people to not do this because this will only make them go deeper and deeper into the ocean of gambling addiction, and one day in the future, they will have lost almost everything they have ever had and then there will be no point in regretting since nothing will come back once it's gone.
Sometimes not many people want to listen to anyone's advice if they originally intended to gamble to make money and win, let alone advising people who have become addicts, it is difficult to tell them that whatever they are chasing and doing is to recover their losses or find what they hope for. it's not as easy as what streamers and gambling influencers usually show, it's all fake

Moreover, why are there still people who still think that gambling can make you rich instantly even though it is clear that around us most of the gamblers are not necessarily successful and rich, most of them go bankrupt and fall into serious addiction, I am also sometimes concerned about the situation of these people. gamblers like that even though they should be able to enjoy gambling only as entertainment.

It seems that they already exceed from the suppose budget both time and money, getting to into addiction is not by far if you treat gambling as a source of your income, you are aiming for something that will going to generate money instead of having some entertainment and not to pressure yourself but instead to enjoy every sessions that you play.

Listening to those advise are commonly disregarded by people who thinks that they are just fine and they are still doing the right thing, but in reality, they are already attached and engage too much.
Exceeded from the supposed budget will get into something not right, maybe addiction or being in debt. I always say it to other, that gambling should not supposed to treat as a job or main source of income because it will lead you in obsession in the long run, which is not healthy in your physical and mental health but some may not follow these advices because they have their own strategy on how to manage their gambling habit.
1250  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and misinformation on: November 13, 2023, 08:45:30 AM
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It's so true. Today's people want you to have proof to show them so they will believe what you say. Scamming is also widespread today, so we can't blame them for their behavior. Maybe those people that are so hard to believe have experienced a scam before. So if they want proof, just provide it.

There are scammers who can provide more proof than those who don't, so sometimes they are still confused if the proof is real or not. But even so, it's still gratifying because there are still people willing to learn about Bitcoin.

OP is not the only person I see trying to share and educate people about bitcoin after they realized what they were missing with bitcoin. But I think what they should do better is focus on themselves first instead of thinking about bigger things. Because if they have not had any achievements with bitcoin, sharing bitcoin with others will not bring the results they expect. Instead, they should find ways to improve their investments first, and then they will have enough confidence and enough evidence to convince anyone without too much difficulty.
Sad but true, Once you educate a person, they will never believe you unless you have a proof of what you've accomplished in life or how bitcoin affects your life.  It's more like they want to see the reflection of bitcoin to yours before you convinced them that bitcoin is not a scam or what. So for me, it's better to focus in our own crypto journey than sharing it to others, I've done my part and it's up to them if they will going to believe me or not. It's easy for them to make a research, I dont want to spoonfeed others.
1251  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you rather make your investments in FIAT or CRYPTO? on: November 13, 2023, 08:33:01 AM
The crypto market has a high level of volatility. Anyone who is about to make an investment needs to have a good understanding of the volatile market. Now the question is, even with volatility, will you still choose to make your investment in fiat through bank savings with regular monthly interests or rather make your investments in crypto where you hold your asset and still have the opportunity to save and make monthly interest?
I chose both of them because it was a good thing to do as it was too risky to just put our money solely into a single form of investment. But I put more on fiat investment over crypto even though we think that crypto investment is profitable because of its safety assurance. I don't save money in the banks either as I use them for investment, maybe just for now while still working on it and keep on growing.

Anyways, we have to choose the kind of investment that we have the knowledge and we think that we can manage it properly as this will be our assurance for success.


Same to you, I always stick to diversification method and I absolutely invest on both as long as I have my money to invest since both of them is doing good and every investment always comes with risk that's why it's better to not put all your eggs in one basket. When it comes to stability, I agree that fiat is far more stable than bitcoin.
1252  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Is Better Than Digital Gold on: November 13, 2023, 05:17:14 AM
The OP said digital gold not physical gold bars. Such an asset would have to be stored on a custodial platform - which can never be transacted with, only held - which of course will require you to complete KYC in order to access your gold holdings - which it may or may not have depending on the trustworthiness of the platform.
By gold we mean physical gold because I think gold can never be virtual. You must understand the gold that I am talking about,the gold that people use, the gold that people use to make ornaments, I am talking about that gold. OP clearly tried to differentiate between gold and bitcoin here. It's fine to find the difference between Pepsi and Coca-Cola but when it comes to finding the difference between gold and bitcoin I don't think I can find any difference because the two are different and the real character of the two is different. Just as Coca-Cola and Pepsi make lotus drinks and their categories are the same, Bitcoin and gold are not the same category, so it is difficult to distinguish between them.
That's exactly what I thought. I mean, I dont know if there's Digital gold though, but If we try to compare the Physical gold and Bitcoin, definitely there's a lot of differences. when it comes to stability I prefer investing in gold which focused in long term goal just like bitcoin but it doesn't require constantly monitoring because everyone's aware that gold value increase from time to time, And about investing in bitcoin, actually it's good same as gold but this is applicable for High risk takers investors and it requires monitoring and checking the market price because its value is volatile.
1253  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Opinion: Pag invest sa Bitcoin gamit ang Maharlika Fund on: November 13, 2023, 05:02:05 AM
Napanood ko sa balita na sinasabi ni BBM sa Saudi Arabia na hindi naman daw suspended ang Maharlika Investment Fund kundi postponed lang at inalok pa nga niya sa mga Arabo yung MIF. May pinirmahan daw siya na $2.41B na worth ng investments galing sa Saudi. Pero puwedeng sabihin na ganun nalang kahit walang proof. Pero napanood at narinig ko din naman na mismo galing sa ministry of investment ng Saudi na parang kinokonsider nila tapos inaalok din nila mga ibang investors na kapwa nila Arabo.
Nabalitaan ko din ito kamakailan lang, pero wala pang nirerelease na document about sa pinirmahan niyang investment worth $2.41B from Saudi internationals. About that, I think its okay na magkaroon ng sovereign investment fund kung hindi tayo kukuha sa mismong Bank natin like Landbank and DBP dahil till now, hindi natin alam kung saan gagamitin talaga ang mga perang uutangin for Maharlika fund. Well, pledges are made para hindi mapahiya ang bumibisitang presidente sa ibang bansa.
1254  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Paraan para umunlad ang Buhay pinansyal on: November 13, 2023, 04:46:47 AM
Pasok ako dito sa investment kasi nag-invest ako ng oras at effort para kumita through signature campaigns. Since isa akong volunteer na law enforcer isa lang ibig sabihin nyan kundi allowance lang natatanggap ko monthly kaya malaking tulong itong forum na to sa akin at sa aking pamilya dahil time at effort lang ang puhonan ko para kumita at matuto dito.

Ang second choice ko if ever na magkaroon ako ng sapat na pera ay ang real estate dahil nag-aappreciate ang price ng property habang tumatagal. Lalo na dito sa probinsya na mababa pa ang presyo ng lupa.

Collectible silver at gold coins ang isa din sa gusto kong pag-investan kung sakali man in the near future. Alam naman natin na ang value ng gold at silver ay pataas din ng pataas kaya maganda din itong bilhin sa ngayon habang medyo may kababaan pa ang presyo.
Tama ka jan mate, Isa sa mga pinaka puhunan natin para kumita dito ay sipag, talino at oras talaga lalo na sa pagsali sa mga signature campaigns, hindi din biro ang mga ginagawa dahil kailangan mo ng sapat na kaalaman para makapag post at makipag interact sa mga kapwa investors/traders dito sa forum. Laking tulong din talaga nitong forum para sa mga katulad nadin na gusto pang matuto at magkaroon ng strong knowledge about crypto. If maglaroon ka ng sapat na pera, mainam na pasukin mo ang real estate or pag iinvest sa mga gold dahil yan yung mga nag aappreciate ang value from time to time.
1255  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] 537th ฿ECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD-CYPHER HODL LOADED BALLET on: November 12, 2023, 11:52:02 PM
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1256  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Tarot cards gamit pang predict ng market? on: November 12, 2023, 11:54:58 AM
Di ko lubos maisip na magagamit ang tarot cards sa ganito, akala ko sa kapalaran lang ng tao. hehe
Siguro hindi tayo naniniwala rito kasi iba naman kultura natin, hindi naman natin ito pinag-aralan kaya wala tayong alam kung paano nila ito ginagawa.

Para sa akin, hula lang din naman lahat ng yan, base lang din naman yan sa sarili nilang paniniwala at paraan sa pagtingin ng mga bagay-bagay.
Doon pa rin ako sa pagtingin at pag-aaral ng mga data at trends sa market.
yan din ang pagkaka alam ko when it come to tarot card reading or any card reading. Kapalaran ng mga taong nagpapahula not the exact Kapalaran or future ng crypto dahil mahirap talaga paniwalaan lalo na't may mga technical analysis na ginagawa sa pagbabasa ng galaw at future ng bitcoin/crypto.Since nasa culture ng pinoy ang naniniwala sa mga kasabihan at hula, kahit mga chinese feng shui ay pinaniniwalaan, hindi malabong madami talaga ang susubok na gawin ito pagdating sa crypto pero sana maiwasan na dahil walang patunay na totoo ito at baka mas dumami lang ang maloko ng ibang fake readers.
1257  Economy / Economics / Re: Being rich = not looking at price tag on: November 12, 2023, 11:21:03 AM
I think you have misunderstood the overall thing. People who say this thing don't mean the literal meaning of the sentence but it means that they want to have enough money so that they can buy anything that they like, and not that they don't want to know the price of care if the product they are buying or care if it's worth the price or not. So, someone who says this to you or writes it somewhere just wants to say that they want to have a lot of wealth in their life.

Therefore, we shouldn't describe the term this way. I also want to be in that position someday in my life, I mean, who doesn't want to have enough money so that they can have financial freedom in their life? To have everything and also be able to do anything they want to do in their lives without worrying about money or anything else.
I agree with this, it's just that some people tend to say that they don't look at a price tag while buying something means they can afford everything they want to purchase without being concerned about the total cost. I've always hear that qoutation in some youtubers with a grocery haul content and I was thinking how rich they are because they can afford to buy without looking the prices and quantity of the product that they put to their baskets.
1258  Economy / Economics / Re: "I saw my salary on a bottle of perfume today" on: November 12, 2023, 10:52:22 AM
The general definition of financial freedom is affordability to live the lifestyle that you wish for, so it's obvious that the more you earn the higher your lifestyle can become. Just remove the elite class from the discussion who can buy whatever they want and the price tag doesn't matter to them which is even beyond the top 1% apart from that everyone wants to spend on something that is worth the money and itself varies depending on their income generating stability.

my underline quote will be if you buy that an expensive bottle because you want it and can afford it then its financial freedom but you are buying it but you don't really wish to use it then its lifestyle inflation which is created purely from the peer pressure created by brands.

And the scenario presented by the OP is that the price of that bottle of perfume costs the same as the salary of that person.
So do you really think it is just to buy such perfume and suffer your other expenses?
You are delusional if you are just following the hype around you, why buying such expensive bottle for the mere reason of being relevant.
We have our different basic salary based in our work experiences and position, As presented the value of perfume of that person is OP's salary amount. We didn't know how much that person earn in a monthly basis and we didn't know what did that person do for a living, what if He/she can afford to buy expensive perfume without compromising other expenses? For me, It's better to see that as an inspiration and one of a goal, so that I'll work hard and I'll invest in my skills and knowledge so I can earn more and be financially successful.
1259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: November 12, 2023, 09:12:18 AM
I honestly don't know any company where a boss allows its employees to gamble. Maybe some companies don't strictly enforce the rules, but I'm sure the 'no gambling at work' policy is part of the basic rules. It's not okay to gamble just because we're not caught; it's still unethical to gamble at work as an employee who is paid to be productive during working hours.

I don’t think there’s a no gambling rule on the rules of any workplace cause it needn’t be said. It should be common knowledge and practice not to gamble in the workplace and during work hours. Employers pay their workers to be productive and while on their premises and during work time.
In the case where the supervisor is a culprit himself and gambles in the workplace, this would encourage others to gamble and others to pick up the habit.
I've seen some companie who has strict rules and compliance and there's a section wherein stated that Gambling and any illegal activities will subject to grave offense once proven, besides as you've said that this is a common knowledge but we all know that some person doesn't control what they are doing, to the point that it will affect their overall performance at work. Right now, some companies has a work from home set up due to pandemic and I think there's a higher rate of some employees doing that kind of activity while working since they are working at home.
1260  Economy / Economics / Re: How Much Does Food Cost in Your Country? on: November 12, 2023, 08:46:55 AM
Imagine that for only Rp.5000 or $0.30 you can enjoy rice with side dishes to relieve your hunger.

Don't forget, "Nasi Padang" which costs only $0.6, is a food that unites the nation because we can enjoy delicious beef "rendang"  Cheesy

Nasi Padang is almost available throughout Indonesia, regardless of city. Where I live, Nasi Padang is considered a luxury food, for Nasi Padang with chicken side dishes the price is $1.5 per pack, if with rendang the price is around $2.
If you go to Lombok, Indonesia where the Moto GP event is always held here, please try Nasi Kaput. Nasi Kaput is very famous here with prices around $0.3 or Nasi Balap Puyung with side dishes of spicy chicken, soybeans and rice for only $0.6.

Expensive guys, at my place nasi Padang is sold per pack, chicken packages, rendang packages, catfish packages are sold for $0.6 or $0.8

Wow, that's good, I hope there's a budget meal in our country too. Everything is expensive here and every thing that you do comes with expenses and some native products were sold in a higher price due to inflation, it's quite difficult to budget especially if you're a minimum wage earner, all your salary will go to bills and budget, nothing left for savings and personal needs.
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