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781  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: cashout or wait till the end? on: January 19, 2024, 09:49:05 AM
Take the money and run.

Gambling is a negative sum game for the player. When you had the chance to get away with positive returns, you just do that. If you keep playing, not only you will lose what you have, you will go negative. You had a good run, now you should enjoy your newly found wealth. I am saying all that but I also know that you won't listen. It is because you made this money from gambling and you will lose it the same way...
I think this is a wise decision you have shared here. Once you are ahead in gambling always take it as an opportunity to exit and enjoy your profit. Gambling does not give people these chances often. As the percentage of people who lose in a day is greater than the percentage that wins.

Buddy, do you know that there are also people who will continue gambling when they are on profit. What they mostly do is that they remove their capital and start making use of their profit to gambling. It's hard to convince that kind of gamblers to stop gambling when they have already got some profit. I believe that they have a targeted profit that is why they are refusing to quit. 

Indeed a smart and wise decision, I hope that many players will read this and apply it to themselves once they play. I agree with you that if we are experiencing large winning, there's nothing wrong to stand up and end the game for a while because you need to think carefully on your next move. It's a good plan to enjoy first your winnings or just like what others do, they always save first their winnings and they keep the other money that they only need in their pockets, In that way, they can minimize the risk of losing all the money that they have.
782  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What ugly incident or occurrence have you ever experienced in gambling? on: January 19, 2024, 09:26:24 AM
so far i've never experienced any bad incidents when gambling, maybe it's just because i'm lucky that until now my gambling is still running smoothly. but it's really annoying when the device we use doesn't function properly during a gambling session because some of my friends have experienced this problem where their smartphone suddenly restarts/freezes when playing slots and it makes them crazy and i just laugh just look at them.

Looks like someone's lucky in gambling here! Well, that's good to hear since many people are not so lucky when it comes to gambling, it is fun to know that there's still people out there who experiencing luck all the time, Well about the device issue, it's really annoying if our mobile devices experiencing malfunction or other issues, feels like our momentum has been taken away by that incidents and it will probably cause a person to lose the game, So my advice is  to always have a spare device for gambling to avoid having log issues and delayed functions, If none, make sure that you have a stable internet connection because sometimes it's all about having poor connections.  
783  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The PCSO Lotto is shrouded in doubt due to the picture of the winner shown on: January 19, 2024, 08:34:10 AM
I can even see comments from netizens says "PCSO has the winning streak" and that had me laughing for a couple of minutes in addition to some popular celebrities who also has funny comments regarding that "edited looking" post from the PCSO. It goes viral all over the Philippines and the PCSO is like a laughing stock on the social media right now. PCSO has been linked to some controversial wins even before including those 400+ winners of the jackpot prize and I don't really have any idea if they rigged it themselves or what. I am bettor as well that is why I am hesitant to place bets because of this issues.

Same here! even in the past, in the long time I've been watching the news, PCSO rarely announces the winner and identity of the winner, but recently it seems like the announcement of the winners became frequent which turns out to become suspicious. seems like they are waiting to increase the winning prize and then when the desired value is reached, they will suddenly announce a winner even though there really isn't one. There is not enough evidence to prove the fraud they are doing but it is too obvious, people in our country are not stupid enough to not notice the stupidity being done inside PCSO.
On a corrupted country then it could really happen but this one is really that seeing to be clear as day on what they are really that doing.They are really just that believing that people would really be that fool enough to believe on just showing a picture or image of a winner.? The worst is that the image is a fake and edited one. They are really that making people too low for them not to make out any reactions.
For sure there would be no bettors on lottery would really be that be making bets ever again if they would really be continuing this shit.

I dont know on whats up into their minds on how they've decided on publishing out that image without even trying to rethink on what would be publics reaction into this on which
it would really be getting once they do expose it out on which i dont know on whats into their minds but surprisingly they did really finalize
on letting it public on which they are really that making themselves laughable.

Exactly! well you got the main problem here, that's true that the country is corrupt and they even make us fool even if their actions is very obvious, even a child can identify if it's edited or not. There has been some news on this issue recently. Other government officials spoke to the general manager of the PCSO and their explanation was, they did it because they were protecting the image of the winner, but you can see on their faces as they were interviewed that they were covered up and obviously lying. So sometimes I don't really believe that when they announce that someone has won the jackpot prize, we think they have stolen or pocketed the money of the people who bet on the lottery.
784  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Bakit sa Thailand at hindi sa Pilipinas? on: January 18, 2024, 11:50:58 PM


Sana nga ay maayos ng Binance ang mga isyu dito sa Pilipinas para mapanatili ang kagandahan ng kanilang serbisyo at convenience sa ating mga traders.

Ang pinakamalakas na kumpetensya ng Binance dito sa Pilipinas syempre ang Coins.ph at PDAX.

Meron tayong hindi alam kung bakit mas pabot sila sa Thailand at nileft out nila ang Pilipinas gayung tayo ay malakas na market at matagal na ring user ng Binance, kung ako sa Binance isama na nila ang Pilipinas kaysa kung wala na sila dito at magkaroon ng void sa market at tsaka may pumalit sa market nila na sing lakas o mas malakas pa sa kanila.

kung magkakataon wala na sila mababalikan dahil komportable na ang mga users dito sa Pilipinas na wala na sila, malakas ang kutob ko na may magtatangka na pumalit sa iiwan ng Binance, maraming exchange local o international na aware sa kalagayan ng Binance dito.

   Oo tama ka dyan Sir, pagnagkataon talaga wala ng babalikan ang binance dito sa pinas talaga, dahil hindi lang naman sila ang exchange na pwedeng pumasok dito sa pinas na talaga namang hindi malayong masanay o sanay narin ang mga lokal pinoy kababayan natin sa kalagayan ngayon.

   And besides nagsimula naman ang mga crypto enthusiast na pinoy noong coinsph pa nga lang, ngayon pa kaya na madami naring options na pwedeng pumalit sa binance dahil sa mga transaction na ginagawa ng mga kababayan natin sa crypto papunta sa lokal currency.

Sabagay no? tama ka naman, nag simula halos lahat gamit ang coins.ph pa lang noon, kaya masasanay din tayong lahat kung sakaling hindi na talaga magiging maayos ang status ng binance sa pilipinas. Sa ngayon, nasasanay nadin ako sa ginagamit kong exhange simula december nung umalis na ako sa paggamit kay binance, Basta ang payo lang talag ay humanap ng legit at trusted exchange para hindi tayo magsisi sa huli.
785  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Island in the Philippines. on: January 18, 2024, 09:14:18 PM
I visited Boracay on one of my business trips. It is definitely beautiful and the weather was wonderful, especially since the weather in my country is very hot. However, their acceptance of Bitcoin, although it is a good step, I do not expect to spend with Bitcoin on my tourist trips, especially with the limited places that accept payment in Bitcoin, but it is a good step.
I just hope that they will be accepted using Bitcoin wallets and not through third-party applications, or that they will convert Bitcoin to dollars by the end of the day.

Same here! The last time we visited Boracay, I saw that there are other businesses and hotels that accept bitcoin payment for the services they offer, Since it is popular and many are aware of bitcoin investment, especially many tourists loves to visit Boracay, so they put bitcoin/ crypto payment in their payment options which in fact is a good goal so that somehow the country gradually adopts this payment set up.
786  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The PCSO Lotto is shrouded in doubt due to the picture of the winner shown on: January 18, 2024, 08:46:48 PM
I can even see comments from netizens says "PCSO has the winning streak" and that had me laughing for a couple of minutes in addition to some popular celebrities who also has funny comments regarding that "edited looking" post from the PCSO. It goes viral all over the Philippines and the PCSO is like a laughing stock on the social media right now. PCSO has been linked to some controversial wins even before including those 400+ winners of the jackpot prize and I don't really have any idea if they rigged it themselves or what. I am bettor as well that is why I am hesitant to place bets because of this issues.

Same here! even in the past, in the long time I've been watching the news, PCSO rarely announces the winner and identity of the winner, but recently it seems like the announcement of the winners became frequent which turns out to become suspicious. seems like they are waiting to increase the winning prize and then when the desired value is reached, they will suddenly announce a winner even though there really isn't one. There is not enough evidence to prove the fraud they are doing but it is too obvious, people in our country are not stupid enough to not notice the stupidity being done inside PCSO.
787  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The PCSO Lotto is shrouded in doubt due to the picture of the winner shown on: January 18, 2024, 08:29:38 PM
You can look at the picture in two different ways. It's possible that the editing is just to keep the winner's identity a secret to protect their privacy. However, some are worried that the manipulation could be a sign of fraudulent or corrupt behavior by the PCSO. If you want to know more about what's going on, you should study a lot or read news from reliable sources. To build processes that people can trust, they need to be open and honest.

It's really edited,  we can see the big differences of both person, the contrast and hue is very obvious. it's funny because they didn't even hire a professional photo editor to make the fraud they are doing to the whole filipino people more believable.
there are speculations that come out even then, it is always announced that someone gets a jackpot prize but the truth is, there is none, it is also said that maybe only people in the government or employees of the PCSO claim the jackpot prize and it is divided among people who are complicit in the incident.
788  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's The Weirdest Alibi Of Gamblers So They Can Continue Gambling? on: January 18, 2024, 02:44:35 PM
It's mostly addict's who comes up with such so they can still fund their addiction because looking at all this reasons they don't really seem logical to me and they aswell sound like joke, I mean how do you find love gambling when most of us gambling online do that behind our screen and are most often anonymous or is it at the land casino where we find only very few female folks except you have a different sexual desire, even talking about gambling for pleasure I'm sure if you are loosing you have almost no pleasure except you are super rich and can afford to have fun loosing money.

I'v heard a few who makes mention of getting close to your winnings by gambling everyday, although sometimes it's applicable but most times it's just baseless and mare fantasies which I don't consider really logical enough.

I think they are referring to a different kind of love, is it like their attachment to gambling or is it that gambling has a different impact on their lives and that is where they get the joy and comfort they are looking for that the people around them cannot provide. As you've said, many gamblers are used to gamble via online, so there's no valid reason for a person to know if one of their co gambler is male or female, Am I right?
789  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: January 18, 2024, 02:20:35 PM
I think there is no use of discussing such thing as gambling in front of children or not doing it, as kid will grow up the way children wants. We have very, very few examples of ancestral gamblers; dynasty of gamblers. You can be a religious family, but the first thing your children do when they leave parents house will be gambling, drinking and etc. Hard to predict what future life children will have, because we cant predict the future. What will be in trend, popular or demanded in 20-30 years - that is the way children would be. They will adopt to modern world.

A person might protect his children from gambling addiction for years, and in 10 years the world will be Las Vegas 2.0 and gambling would be the only way to earn. What will happen then? The kid will become addicted. That is true. Can it be considered that a person has failed as a parent. No.

Parents can protect children from anything they consider is bad for their children. But when children starts their separate from parents life, they will rebuild it, their interests, their behavior, their hobbies and the way they spend time and money the way they want.

Well, you have a point too. It's true that no matter how strict the parents are or how much they hide it so that their children don't know about gambling, there will come the time when they get older, they tend to do the same things that their parents do, but it's good that while the children are still young, their parents guide them so that they grow up to be good children, it's better that they can somehow be restricted so that their lives don't get ruined at a very young age like other gambling addicts, especially we know that the time comes when children become more explorers and curious, there is a high possibility that they will try gambling.

 it will be more helpful if we explain to them properly when they are at the right age than to hide it until the children themselves find the answer to their own questions
790  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: January 18, 2024, 01:39:31 PM
Those who attack us about the gambling we play, of course they don't understand how we gamble and it's impossible for them to understand the gambling we play. All they can do is criticize people who gamble because they don't like gambling, but for those who advise us in gambling of course we can see how they advise us, if they advise us because they have had a lot of experience in the gambling they play I don't think there's any harm in listening but we remain in our stance whether what they say is true or they just say it is not appropriate with what they know.
Many gambling criticizers are doing that not because they know anything about gambling but most of them are just out their doing what ever they are doing because of what and the kind of life style they have seen those who are into gambling are living, like most of them have come across lot of gambling addicts than those who are responsible and they ought to believe that anything that comes with gambling have bad influence they forget to note the fact that gambling and how people reach to it is base on individuals and how they deal with their emotions and personal control.


maybe that's why it's already imprinted in other people's mind that when a person participates in gambling, they will judge them  as a bad person, they easily judge him because maybe they're used to see other gamblers who almost ruin their lives and no control over mind and their actions.
To be honest, here in our country, when they hear or know that someone is gambling, they immediately have a lot of negative side comments because there are many cases of crimes and wrongdoings here because of the influence of alcohol addiction and gambling, but they don't know that there are many people who have been helped by gambling, those people who have their own self control and responsible thinking, they don't know that because they are too narrowminded when they hear the word gambling or gambler.
791  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GAMBLING DISORDER on: January 18, 2024, 01:20:10 PM
Just go to a professional psychiatrist because your problem is already at a fairly serious stage and if it is not treated, you might do something stupid with your life. So before it's too late, it's better for you to seek help from others. Or if you don't have money, you should be able to ask your family for help and there will definitely be a solution to the problem. Don't let this problem drag on because you could potentially become an extreme addict and that will destroy your life. So as long as there is still a chance to fix it, you should treat it as soon as possible.

I agree, I think this is not the right way and the forum is not the one that can help you, it would be better to consult with medical professionals especially if you are already in the serious stage of gambling disorder, it is difficult to self diagnose so it would be better to get checked up while it's not too late.
let's not be shy to ask for help especially if it's really necessary because our money can be returned but our own physical and mental health is difficult to fix once it's damaged.
792  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto gambling and religious restrictions on: January 18, 2024, 08:40:51 AM
Crypto gambling and religious restrictions damnnn finally there is a thread that discussed about crypto gambling and religion

I am Muslim and gambling is prohibited and it is already written down in the holy Quran Crypto itself is still debated by Muslim scholars, some say that crypto is halal in certain tokens/coins, and some say it is haram too.

but you can say that I am not a devout Muslim. and the money earned from gambling is haram and I saw several articles that, for example, if I win from gambling, I have to donate all the winnings to those who need it more, because even 1 cent is still haram money.

Now I do gamble for fun only and

I committed many sins including the do gambling and I am aware of that.  Cry

Do you still doing gambling? By any chance, I just want to know if you donate the money you won to those people who are more in need? since you said that it is stated in your holy qouran that it is haram, and even if you are not a devout muslim, do you still follow what is stated in the qouran? Now I know, that's why I know other muslims who's every time they win, they give away the money they won or they buy important things instead of saving the money itself, maybe you have the same reasons.
793  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you pay attention on other people bet and it amount, and does it affect you? on: January 18, 2024, 06:16:46 AM
In my opinion, those who place bets with high amounts and because they imitate other people, they will experience pressure on their bets which will make them restless and tense, because what is clear is that they hope to win, but the win cannot be achieved. Correct predictions will be obtained or not, but the chances are that it is difficult to get. because the chance of winning at gambling is very slim, so even if they place a large bet, that doesn't mean it's easy to win, right?

People who bet with an amount they wouldn’t ordinarily have but did cause of one or more people around who did bet with such amounts often end up losing out and it would be more painful than the losses experienced before.

If one wants to copy, it’s better to copy just the bet being placed then go on ahead to play with an amount that’s pocket friendly.
Placing a bet with a large amount doesn’t equals a win. The amount to be won would be equally high but it doesn’t mean you’re actually going to win. Seems people momentarily forget.

that's clear, because even with those who place bets in small amounts I think they feel the same thing, especially since they don't often place large bets and by placing a large bet once I think they will feel very strong tension, because they bet not as usual, and for the same purpose, they bet like that in my opinion because they are curious, maybe that way they will get a big win, but that is not certain, what is clear is that the final possibility is defeat and they return regret that.

Copying the way they gamble when they get a win will not necessarily give them a win, because basically winning at gambling is due to luck, so even if they follow the steps like a player who got a big win, it doesn't guarantee they will get the same win. but in my opinion it is true, there must be a curiosity to bet bigger than usual because this can happen because of the encouragement of their curiosity about gambling.

We have the same thoughts about this topic, mate! The last paragraph is very accurate, that even if we try to copy their strategies and techniques on how they gamble, there's no guarantee that we can achieve winning, because the truth is, gambling is all about luck and right timing.
There are some instances when we try to copy their actions, we don't realize that we forget our own gambling strategy, and that is one of the reasons why a gambler is triggered to place a bigger bet than the usual because he imitates someone's movements and his goal is to win like the person he imitates.
794  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social aspects of online gambling on: January 18, 2024, 05:55:53 AM
And the most funniest aspect of meeting or interacting with other gamblers is because every individual gambler have a unique story to tell you especially as it relates to their personal life experiences in gambling. Some of these gamblers have unique stories to tell you. For instance, some gamblers will tell you that since they started gambling they have never lost any odds before and it has been a straight win for them all these while. Whereas there are those who have never won a single game before since they started gambling yet they have never get tired of the gambling rather continuing to play even more.
When you meet fellow gamblers of course they will have stories to tell about the games they play and can also exchange gambling strategies that fellow gamblers have, if they tell you that they can win their gambling in a row I think they are saying things that we cannot believe because Every gambler has certainly experienced defeat and it is very difficult to win in a row and if the person who tells the story has never won and they keep gambling, perhaps that person cannot learn from the mistakes they made in the gambling they played and decide to bet more. Many things in gambling are certainly wrong choices if we cannot correct mistakes in the games we play.

 Exactly! in that way, we will have more ideas about different events or experiences from other fellow gamblers, it is also better sometimes that we communicate with others because we can get new ideas on gambling and we can also learn from what they have been through already in their gambling journey.
sometimes, when we meet different people, that's when we learn more, you will also know that not all people tell the truth, Funny but true, others just make up stories to cover up what really happened, many of them are more experienced failure and defeat rather than victory.
795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling can be a hope restorer if we go about it wisely! on: January 18, 2024, 04:21:13 AM
As a responsible gambler it gladdens my heart always whenever I hear a fellow gambler testify of how he won a bulky amount of money from be it a bet or lotto and uses that money to inject into something meaningful for himself.

It all happened on my way home just this evening. I boarded a public bus and just in front of me were seated two young men too in their late thirty's having a conversation and from the conversation it sound like they haven't met for a long time and one was telling the other of how he had won a big amount of money from a lotto he played and he has used the money to get himself a new bus for public transportation business.

According to him, he once had a bus before which he was using for the transport business (carrying of passengers) but was seized and confiscated by the authority for he used it in conveying contraband goods of which he was hired to carry to some location by the goods owner on the way law enforcement agents stop them did a search and that was how he lost that vehicle.

So winning that money he quickly went ahead to get a new bus to continue his public transport business. From his voice he seems like one whose lost hope has been restored by that single win. Gambling can be a life saver too for it's not as bad as non-gamblers portrays it. To all gamblers' when you get lucky make good use of your gambling win do not chase for double portion.

 There are many cases that proves that winning in gambling helped them a lot in their lives today. Many have experienced the development of their lives because of gambling. In reality, gambling really helps our fellow man especially if we win a large amount of money but we still have to be careful because it has a side effect that is not good for a person, just like being addicted to it.

Actually if people really knew how to handle their money properly, they wouldn't end up being broke, I think their lives would improve even more if they used everything they won from gambling correctly. Just like in your post, He got the lost bus back to him right after he won, it just means that his mind was focused on good things when he won gambling, rather than prioritizing other luxuries.
796  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: cashout or wait till the end? on: January 18, 2024, 04:02:43 AM
Looking at your stake, you have made a lot of money already. The decision to cash out is on your shoulders, and it’s a tough one. But I normally believe that you can take the proposed amount and restake it again. I know luck doesn’t come all the time but you will feel terrible if it happens that you loose all the money. And honestly, you will feel terrible too if it happens that you take the money offered and it later reaches your target. So, none is better than the other, it is a personal decision where you have to take that risky stance.

That's true that it's our personal decision and we need to think and decide carefully, Try to assess the situation because sometimes we tend to feel overwhelm on the things that goes beyond our limits that's why we make a decisions that are not well thought out. It's really a difficult to decide especially if you already have the Max amount that you set to your goals but I think It's better to cash it out then try to place a bet again, in that way, we can mininize the risk of losing the whole money.
797  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: January 17, 2024, 12:00:43 PM
It is difficult for a woman to be open about her gambling habits because of the way society perceives gamblers. In the society I find myself, gamblers are seen as lowlifes, people without a job looking to make money from doing nothing. It’s even worse when it’s a woman gambling, people would assume she is wayward. This is problem because in most parts of Africa, a woman’s value is tied to her reputation and she must protect it still cost. I think women gamble online more than they go to physical casinos.
What you are saying that is the absolutely hard truth of our society. In case of most societies all over the world most of the people have the nagetive thoughts about gambling. And if the things are about women then it has become more worser in the society. But now the era is changing peoples thought are also changing so I thing women are also do gamble where they want.

I don't know many women who like gambling, it's even hard to find women interested in investing and money on the places I go (I don't mind, just stating a fact)
maybe there's something to do with aversion to risk, not sure.

many interesting things and conversations to derive from this topic.

many women gamble nowadays, especially now that gambling is very accessible because of online gambling applications, but you're right, it's hard to find women interested when it comes to investment and other financial stuff that you know. They can't just be seen because they don't let people know about their personal matters. That's it.
798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are You Buying More Tickets To Increase Your chances on: January 17, 2024, 10:32:30 AM
It's important to note that lotteries are a game of chance and the odds of winning are usually very low. Buying more tickets might make you more likely to win, but it also makes it more expensive to join. Instead of hoping to win the lottery, you can also get rich but doing things like investing, starting a business, learning skills, and many more.

it seems that you are just wasting money if you bet too many tickets. I mean, there is nothing wrong with wanting to win, but if it has become your hobby and it has become part of your everyday routine, it is no longer healthy to look at. I did say that if you really have the chance to win, even if it's just one ticket, you will win immediately.
799  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you pay attention on other people bet and it amount, and does it affect you? on: January 17, 2024, 10:06:08 AM
I have also experienced this of course. I think most bettors have experiences looking or noticing each other's games or bet amounts. But I've never been envious. I have been amazed of other gamblers for wagering big amount of bets as if money is nothing to them. I often wondered how rich they are for being able to afford those huge amounts just for gambling. But I didn't dream of imitating them. Sometimes I even think how those big bets that are just quickly lost could have been used for a lot of other better things.

Yeah, that's right. almost all of us have also experienced that, sometimes we have even compared our own movements to theirs. But we shouldn't do that because we have our own forecasting strategies. It's a good thing that you've never been envious to others because that envy feeling will lead you to become more greedy and competitive in a wrong way.
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