I'll donate 5 SPR to 40 different people in this thread who have 25+ posts if airball posts proof that he has more than 50,000 SPR.
I don't think he does.
If you're planning to sell size, advertising as much isn't exactly the smartest thing to do. I think he is hoping to shake out weak hands.
I can prove it very easily with solid evidence I have 50K+ spr. 40*5=200 how about let's have a bet? I'll give you 3 addresses whose total balance is 60K+ spr. of course you can check those public addresses from the block explorer. To prove I own those wallets,I'll send 200/3=66.66 spr from each of them into the same address. If I can do this above,you pay me 200 spr. if not,I pay you 200spr. fair enough? want to bet or not? Sounds fair but I don't want to pay you if I am wrong. I want to pay 40 different people in this thread as specified. how about 6.6 spr (the initial block reward after #1300) to 300 people who joins this community now and in the future ?? If I can't prove it,to make things simple,I donate 5K to Spreadcoin community. Whoever loses or win,in any case,it is good for this community. what do you say,MyFarm?  Deal. |
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I'll donate 5 SPR to 40 different people in this thread who have 25+ posts if airball posts proof that he has more than 50,000 SPR.
I don't think he does.
If you're planning to sell size, advertising as much isn't exactly the smartest thing to do. I think he is hoping to shake out weak hands.
I can prove it very easily with solid evidence I have 50K+ spr. 40*5=200 how about let's have a bet? I'll give you 3 addresses whose total balance is 60K+ spr. of course you can check those public addresses from the block explorer. To prove I own those wallets,I'll send 200/3=66.66 spr from each of them into the same address. If I can do this above,you pay me 200 spr. if not,I pay you 200spr. fair enough? want to bet or not? Sounds fair but I don't want to pay you if I am wrong. I want to pay 40 different people in this thread as specified. |
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I'll donate 5 SPR to 40 different people in this thread who have 25+ posts if airball posts proof that he has more than 50,000 SPR.
I don't think he does.
If you're planning to sell size, advertising as much isn't exactly the smartest thing to do. I think he is hoping to shake out weak hands.
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Spreadcoin Mining Guide
Step 1: Make sure you have downloaded the Spreadcoin client and the miner that suits your graphics card. (AMD or Nvidia) You can find all of these download links below. Client Download (version 0.9.15.2, released December 24, 2014)Windows wallet (32-bit)Windows wallet (64-bit)Linux wallet (32-bit)Linux wallet (64-bit)Mac OS X walletSource codeAMD GPU MinerWindows binary: http://spreadcoin.net/files/Spread-GPU-miner.7zSource code: https://github.com/spreadcoin-project/spreadcoinx11-sgminerYou need latest drivers to use this miner. Known to work on 14.9 installed from file named amd-catalyst-14-9-win7-win8.1-64bit-dd-ccc-whql.exe from http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows%207%20-%2064Nvidia GPU MinerWin32 binary: https://github.com/tsiv/spreadminer/releasesSource: https://github.com/tsiv/spreadminer
Step 2: You only need to do this step if you have an encrypted wallet So first off, head to %appdata%/Spreadcoin. You can find it by opening windows explorer and typing it into the bar at the top:  Press Enter. Now you will be taken to a folder named Spreadcoin with a few files in it. In the next step I'm going to assume you don't have a spreadcoin.conf file in this folder. Step 3: Now you need to right click and create a new text document as shown below.  Leave it named as "New Text Document". Now open the document and paste this text into it: miningprivkey= <we will fill this section out later>
Now we can save the file. But we need to name it spreadcoin.conf so click file > save as Now make sure to change "Save as type" from "Text Documents (*.txt)" to "All Files (*.*)" Then type the file name as "spreadcoin.conf" and click save. Now you should see a new file called "spreadcoin.conf" in the Spreadcoin directory. If you can't see it there then you might need to refresh the page but if you can see it there then you can minimize the file explorer window as we will come back to it later.
Step 3: Now you can extract the client that you downloaded earlier from the zip file and run it. (You may need to install 7-zip) (if you already had the latest client downloaded and running then you can skip this step)
Step 4: Follow this step ONLY if you have an encrypted wallet. Create a new address that you would like your miner to mine to and copy it to the clipboard. This address will be slightly insecure as you will need to expose it to your miner. In the Spreadcoin client in the toolbar at the top click Tools > Debug Console Then type "walletpassphrase <your wallet password> 120". Now type "dumpprivkey <wallet address>" where the wallet address is the address you copied to your clipboard before. The wallet will reply with the corresponding private key. You will need to copy this key and then open up the spreadcoin.conf file you minimized before. Type "miningprivkey=<paste the key you copied out of the spreadcoin client>" You can now save and close the spreadcoin.conf file. Once you have done that you will need to restart the client.
Step 5: Now that the client is up and running you can extract your miner from it's zip file. Navigate to the folder you extracted it from and find the file named "start.bat". Depending on your computer the file may not have ".bat" on the end. Then you can right click > edit. Now you might need to erase everything except the word "sgminer" (it worked for me) and then you can proceed to add custom modifications to the default values. Here is a list: Options for both config file and command line:
--auto-fan Automatically adjust all GPU fan speeds to maintain a target temperature
--auto-gpu Automatically adjust all GPU engine clock speeds to maintain a target temperature
--balance Change multipool strategy from failover to even share balance
--benchmark Run sgminer in benchmark mode - produces no shares
--compact Use compact display without per device statistics
--debug|-D Enable debug output
--device|-d <arg> Select device to use, one value, range and/or comma separated (e.g. 0-2,4) default: all
--disable-rejecting Automatically disable pools that continually reject shares
--expiry|-E <arg> Upper bound on how many seconds after getting work we consider a share from it stale (default: 28)
--gpu-dyninterval <arg> Set the refresh interval in ms for GPUs using dynamic intensity (default: 7)
--gpu-platform <arg> Select OpenCL platform ID to use for GPU mining (default: -1)
--gpu-threads|-g <arg> Number of threads per GPU - one value or comma separated list (e.g. 1,2,1)
--gpu-engine <arg> GPU engine (over)clock range in Mhz - one value, range and/or comma separated list (e.g. 850-900,900,750-850)
--gpu-fan <arg> GPU fan percentage range - one value, range and/or comma separated list (e.g. 0-85,85,65)
--gpu-map <arg> Map OpenCL to ADL device order manually, paired CSV (e.g. 1:0,2:1 maps OpenCL 1 to ADL 0, 2 to 1)
--gpu-memclock <arg> Set the GPU memory (over)clock in Mhz - one value for all or separate by commas for per card
--gpu-memdiff <arg> Set a fixed difference in clock speed between the GPU and memory in auto-gpu mode
--gpu-powertune <arg> Set the GPU powertune percentage - one value for all or separate by commas for per card
--gpu-reorder Attempt to reorder GPU devices according to PCI Bus ID
--gpu-vddc <arg> Set the GPU voltage in Volts - one value for all or separate by commas for per card
--lookup-gap <arg> Set GPU lookup gap for scrypt mining, comma separated
--intensity|-I <arg> Intensity of GPU scanning (d or 8 -> 31,default: d to maintain desktop interactivity)
--xintensity|-X <arg> Shader based intensity of GPU scanning (1 to 9999), overrides --intensity|-I and -rawintensity.
--rawintensity <arg> Raw intensity of GPU scanning (1 to 2147483647), overrides --intensity|-I and --xintensity|-X.
--kernel-path|-K <arg> Specify a path to where kernel files are (default: "/usr/local/bin")
--kernel|-k <arg> Override kernel to use - one value or comma separated
--load-balance Change multipool strategy from failover to quota based balance
--log|-l <arg> Interval in seconds between log output (default: 5)
--log-show-date|-L Show date on every log line
--lowmem Minimise caching of shares for low memory applications
--net-delay Impose small delays in networking to not overload slow routers
--no-adl Disable the ATI display library used for monitoring and setting GPU parameters
--no-restart Do not attempt to restart GPUs that hang
--no-submit-stale Don't submit shares if they are detected as stale
--pass|-p <arg> Password for bitcoin JSON-RPC server
--per-device-stats Force verbose mode and output per-device statistics
--poolname <arg> Name of pool.
--protocol-dump|-P Verbose dump of protocol-level activities
--queue|-Q <arg> Minimum number of work items to have queued (0+) (default: 1)
--quiet|-q Disable logging output, display status and errors
--quota|-U <arg> quota;URL combination for server with load-balance strategy quotas
--real-quiet Disable all output
--remove-disabled Remove disabled devices entirely, as if they didn't exist
--rotate <arg> Change multipool strategy from failover to regularly rotate at N minutes (default: 0)
--round-robin Change multipool strategy from failover to round robin on failure
--scan-time|-s <arg> Upper bound on time spent scanning current work, in seconds (default: 7)
--sched-start <arg> Set a time of day in HH:MM to start mining (a once off without a stop time)
--sched-stop <arg> Set a time of day in HH:MM to stop mining (will quit without a start time)
--shaders <arg> GPU shaders per card for tuning scrypt, comma separated
--sharelog <arg> Append share log to file
--shares <arg> Quit after mining N shares (default: unlimited)
--socks-proxy <arg> Set socks4 proxy (host:port)
--show-coindiff Show coin difficulty rather than hash value of a share
--state <arg> Specify pool state at startup (default: enabled)
--tcp-keepalive <arg> TCP keepalive packet idle time (default: 30)
--temp-cutoff <arg> Temperature which a device will be automatically disabled at, one value or comma separated list (default: 95)
--temp-hysteresis <arg> Set how much the temperature can fluctuate outside limits when automanaging speeds (default: 3)
--temp-overheat <arg> Temperature which a device will be throttled at while automanaging fan and/or GPU, one value or comma separated list (default: 85)
--temp-target <arg> Temperature which a device should stay at while automanaging fan and/or GPU, one value or comma separated list (default: 75)
--text-only|-T Disable ncurses formatted screen output
--thread-concurrency <arg> Set GPU thread concurrency for spreadcoin mining, comma separated
--url|-o <arg> URL for bitcoin JSON-RPC server
--user|-u <arg> Username for bitcoin JSON-RPC server
--verbose|-v Log verbose output to stderr as well as status output
--worksize|-w <arg> Override detected optimal worksize - one value or comma separated list
--userpass|-O <arg> Username:Password pair for spreadcoin JSON-RPC server
--worktime Display extra work time debug information
--difficulty-multiplier <arg> Difficulty multiplier for jobs received from stratum pools
Options for command line only:
--config|-c <arg> Load a JSON-format configuration file
See example.conf for an example configuration.
--default-config <arg> Specify the filename of the default config file
Loaded at start and used when saving without a name.
--help|-h Print this message
--ndevs|-n Display number of detected GPUs, OpenCL platform information, and exit
--version|-V Display version and exit
My start.bat file is very simple and looks like this: -I 20 means "Set the intensity to 20". You can change 20 to be any number from 8 - 31. Higher is better but your graphics card may not be able to handle the load if your intensity is very high. For Nvidia users, the included example.bat should work right off the bat so all you need to do is run it. Now you can run start.bat and it'll (hopefully) look something like this:  Sed8H56NJBTdY8E9Zuqs7o29g6xXz8fSD7e1ghtSpace submitted the following as a mining guide. As I mentioned, I'm no miner. Does he have it right? |
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I'll put a 500 SPR bounty for a good mining guide. Not written by Mr. Spread (sorry Mr. Spread) as we need him to focus on coding  Have you seen this yet: Ok guys here is the batch file that I made. It creates a mining batch file for you. I hope it is noob friendly. https://www.dropbox.com/s/s71ju7vjwkaj3q9/SpreadcoinMinerConfig.bat?dl=0Please post suggestions to help improve it. Make sure to put the .bat file into the same directory as the miner. Once it finishes it creates spreadcoinminer.bat, and you run this to mine. If that's not enough then i'll definately make a better guide. I want that 500! I don't mine so it's not my area of knowledge. What would be nice is a guide that would let someone like me follow the directions, and be up and mining without much trouble. |
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I'll put a 500 SPR bounty for a good mining guide. Not written by Mr. Spread (sorry Mr. Spread) as we need him to focus on coding |
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I truly believed that this was well distributed.
But it seems otherwise, concentrated only among a few wallets.
Disgrace.
Early adopters often benefit. You should have been paying more attention when SPR was launched.* Disgrace! *I wish I had too.  Early adopters always benefit or risk. I've lost 50 BTC+ investing in talkcoin,frsh,MLS,Ucoin.....,sign  Fractalcoin was my big loser. |
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I truly believed that this was well distributed.
But it seems otherwise, concentrated only among a few wallets.
Disgrace.
BTW: still up to now,Satoshi has 10% of bitcoin.  In the first 3 weeks ,I've mined 42K DRK,but so what?? As the price went up slowly before May,I sold 95% of them. Never and never worry about big whale miners,in most cases,they are helping a coin to grow.  But 90k SPR is too much of a holding by the current price. I envy you hahah,holding or mining a coin is always risky. but like I said,I would sell at least half of them as the price goes up to 50K to cover the huge amount of power fee. I don't want to kill this coin,so I'll spread them. Put a 45,000 SPR sell order at 50k. See what happens |
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I truly believed that this was well distributed.
But it seems otherwise, concentrated only among a few wallets.
What facts do you have to backup your assertion? |
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Dev,we need to strengten marketing and promotion.
The average mining cost in the past week is about 20K sato,if the net hashrate is not growing,the price will get stuck below 50K sato.
I suspect that once masternodes go live, all those issues will resolve themselves. without sufficient net hashrate ,miners will keep dumping to earn the extra profit. I hope that starts soon. I'd love to pick up a load more SPR at these prices. I want to buy 25BTC worth of SPR and it doesn't seem possible on the exchanges. They don't appear to be dumping there according to the volumes. Maybe one of those miners who is dumping would like to send me a message! I tried tanking the price a couple times (yes, that was me hahah). No dice. Nobody wants to sell size. |
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Dev,we need to strengten marketing and promotion.
The average mining cost in the past week is about 20K sato,if the net hashrate is not growing,the price will get stuck below 50K sato.
I suspect that once masternodes go live, all those issues will resolve themselves. without sufficient net hashrate ,miners will keep dumping to earn the extra profit. I hope that starts soon. I'd love to pick up a load more SPR at these prices. |
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Dev,we need to strengten marketing and promotion.
The average mining cost in the past week is about 20K sato,if the net hashrate is not growing,the price will get stuck below 50K sato.
I suspect that once masternodes go live, all those issues will resolve themselves. |
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VERY solid price breakout. Nice to see. I wasn't expecting us to go hard above .0003 for awhile. Must have been Mr. Spread's comments about improving masternodes.
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That said, the more I think about it the more I like the name Spread. It's not shiny and glamourous, but it's apt, it encompasses the basic principle of a distributed currency.
Agreed. I actually proposed rebranding but the more I hear the name, the more I like it. I'm glad Mr. Spread is smarter than me |
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Looking at the buy orders that came in and took SPR to over .0004 for a couple minutes after Mr. Spread talked about Masternodes, it's quite obvious there's a lot of people with big money camping on this thread waiting for good news.
Exciting times ahead...
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Then i learned that spr's code base is forked from darkcoin's and implementing darksend should be 'a walk in the park'.
This isn't 'walk in the park'. There are many things that should be changed, look e.g. at masternode payments. In DarkCoin the owner(s) of the specific private key (this is Evan Duffield and co. I suppose) decide which masternode and when will receive a payment. In my opinion this is unacceptable, especially for a cryptocurrency which main feature right now is true decentralization. Thus we need a decentralized solution to decide where payments will go. DarkCoin experienced non-stability issues and forks when decentralized method of selecting masternode payments was used, this was because different nodes had different opinion about which node should receive a payment. I'm working on a system where forks will be prevented because the nodes which don't agree on masternode payments will be forced to accept the decision of the majority of the hashrate.Holy shit. Improved masternodes, here we come! |
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Chaps
I've been thinking about this for a few days and I'm in the 'yes, do it' mode at the moment.
I'm thinking of launching a DRK clone, but using spread solo mining.
I'm thinking of taking on board the branding issues people feel is a problem with DRK going mainstream, adding the SPR solo mining, then just keeping tabs on developments with DRK and other clones and making sure the best bits gets into the new coin.
I have a name picked out and an additional strategy to rival DRK, while still using DRK and SPR code. I am also in discussions with a couple of good devs who could provide the necessary support.
Any thoughts?
Clone coins will not succeed long term in the ever-changing world of cryptocurrency. To be top 10, you need talented devs like Evan Duffield and Mr. Spread. Short term you might do ok, but I'm interested in solid mid to long term investments only which is why I invest in talented devs, not coins with a nice name and shiny logo. I'm not saying don't do it, but I suspect simply investing in SPR would be more lucrative overall. But hey, if you think you can be successful, more power to you. |
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SPR is truly a fascinating coin to watch. Because of the decentralized mining, only people who really want this coin are mining it. And it's pretty hard to mine so they aren't selling many, if any at all as they mine them. Normally, coins are raped by the constant selling of multipools. Not SPR.
Once masternodes go live, this coin is going to go parabolic. Reasons being:
1. To get a masternode you need 1000 SPR. There's not much SPR for sale so you have to buy at the ask. People just plain aren't hitting bids.
2. Mining is hard but having a masternode will be a means for most people to get more SPR on a regular basis. People are going to want masternodes.
All of this is going to feed upon itself.
I'm actually quite amazed that the price is still this low. I suspect people are waiting to make sure that Mr. Spread comes through with the masternode promise.
Once he does, this is going to be epic.
Good point!masternodes will serve as POS to some extent. That's one way to look at them, yes. Mining coins is already really hard yet people understand Mr. Spread is an excellent dev so they mine anyway. Once masternodes go live, mining will be that much harder so people will want to get 1000 SPR to get a masternode. Thing there is, as people buy 1000 SPR over and over, the price is going to go up which will attract more miners and people who want masternodes. Rinse and repeat. It could be substantially more than 1000 SPR. The number of 1000 DRK was decided so that masternodes would be expensive and that someone would not buy / control a lot of them cheaply... the price was decided when DRK was around 0.0015 BTC (and it was understood that the price would rise over time - now it's 4x at 0.006).... SPR is currently at a weak* 0.00025 which would require 24.000 SPRs to run an equivalently expensive node as Darkcoin's. But given the low liquidity this is unlikely, so the price per SPR has to rise instead. Or a mix of price-rise and something like 3000-5000-7000 coins per node could be the result. * Meaning that even 10 bitcoins of purchases will easily multiply this price. Buying 24.000 SPR at 0.00025 is unlikely. All good points. I believe there are less mined SPR available now than DRK when masternodes were released though. That needs to be taken into account as well when deciding the final number required. |
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Mr. Spread, you mentioned that masternodes and InstantX are the direction you're heading first and aren't looking at Darksend quite so much at present. I support that.
Spreadcoin is more decentralized than any other coins. One area of centralization with all coins is payments to merchants. If you want to pay through merchants in an automated manner, you go through bitpay, coinpayments.net, etc and there is of course a fee there as well. Centralization and a fee. Not good.
Is there any reason that masternodes, in conjunction with InstantX, couldn't process payments? You could still even have a very small fee, maybe .25% that gets paid to masternodes which would be an even bigger reason to run them.
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It seems nobody is willing to sell @25K sato at cex that is a sign that the coins are controlled by a small group. that spells trouble for new investors and community members. think I'm staying away. No, it's a sign that nobody wants to sell their coins because: 1. They know masternodes are coming and are saving up for that. 2. Mining is hard and the only people mining are the ones that understand the value of this coin, not multipools. You're used to multipools constantly dumping on other coins. That doesn't happen here which completely changes the dynamics. |
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