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701  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 28, 2015, 06:24:03 AM
People who don't believe in Jesus salvation are going to Hell.

See here's a prime example of someone telling you as fact what's going to happen when you die.
As we've already concluded, nobody knows what will happen when die, so this person is obviously lying.


Do you really know that I don't know? If so, how do you know that I don't know?

 Cheesy

Because you can't remember what you was doing before you was born. And you haven't died yet to find out.

So any views what will happen when you die are wild wishful thinking speculation at best.
702  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 28, 2015, 06:11:11 AM
People who don't believe in Jesus salvation are going to Hell.

See here's a prime example of someone telling you as fact what's going to happen when you die.
As we've already concluded, nobody knows what will happen when die, so this person is obviously lying.
703  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A UK resident? If so, prepare your anus. on: May 27, 2015, 10:49:48 PM
Anyone who had concern with his or hers privacy has already left the United Kingdom, and have settled in other English-speaking nations such as Australia, New Zealand and Singapore. Most of those remaining are either low-IQ people, or recent immigrants from countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh. They are unlikely to oppose this measure.

I wouldn't really hold Australia, or New Zealand (or any Western nation at this point), as much of an example in terms of protection of privacy - they seem to be moving in the same direction: http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/mar/26/mandatory-data-retention-becomes-law-as-coalition-and-labor-combine, http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-21/new-zealand-passes-spy-bill/4903500. In fact, much of this is just their attempts at legalizing what has been happening behind the scenes for quite some time now.





This is horrible. I always suspected the UK to be in a similar situation as the USA. I can't believe their nonsense. This breach of privacy doesn't do anything.
Knowing what couples text each other will definitely help your "terrorist" fight.

Luckily there is ProtonMail for emails and I'm still waiting for a means of encrypted communication for smartphones (since Heml unfortunately got cancelled).

Oh, UK is far worse than US. Snowdon told us that ages ago.
I use SMSsecure for my text messages.
https://smssecure.org/
Got my wife setup on it as well. What I text my wife is completely private and should stay that way.
I've tried to encourage others to use it, but I just get the usual brainwashed response "if I ain't doing nothing wrong, I ain't got nothing to hide."
It's very frustrating.

Try telling them about the Optic Nerve program: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/27/gchq-nsa-webcam-images-internet-yahoo.

Oh I have. I just got laughed at and accused of being paranoid when they noticed I've stuck a tiny square of sticky tape over my phone front facing camera.
I couldn't stand that thing looking at me all the time.
704  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 27, 2015, 10:30:00 PM
Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.

but its quite scary to think we were wrong and will burn in hell.

It not remotely scary. This burning in hell thing is a ploy used by the church to increase their followers. Wise people ignore it.
Just enjoy life and stop worrying about your inevitable death. You can't stop it, it's as natural as eating, breathing etc, so why worry?


yeah i do agree it has yet to be proven. but all religion speaks of hell as burning fire. all religion even tho they have their differences and beliefs speaks about the same subject, im not saying they are right or they are wrong. but its just a thought i wanted to point out.

i do agree with you, death is inevitable.

Fear is a tired and tested method of recruiting new members. Ask Hitler. Ask ISIS. Ask the church.

It works.
705  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A UK resident? If so, prepare your anus. on: May 27, 2015, 10:27:09 PM
This is horrible. I always suspected the UK to be in a similar situation as the USA. I can't believe their nonsense. This breach of privacy doesn't do anything.
Knowing what couples text each other will definitely help your "terrorist" fight.

Luckily there is ProtonMail for emails and I'm still waiting for a means of encrypted communication for smartphones (since Heml unfortunately got cancelled).

Oh, UK is far worse than US. Snowdon told us that ages ago.
I use SMSsecure for my text messages.
https://smssecure.org/
Got my wife setup on it as well. What I text my wife is completely private and should stay that way.
I've tried to encourage others to use it, but I just get the usual brainwashed response "if I ain't doing nothing wrong, I ain't got nothing to hide."
It's very frustrating.
706  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 27, 2015, 10:18:50 PM
Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.

you believe in devil? o.O thats weird.

Not really. But it winds up BADecker. Cheesy
707  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 27, 2015, 10:17:28 PM
Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.

but its quite scary to think we were wrong and will burn in hell.

It not remotely scary. This burning in hell thing is a ploy used by the church to increase their followers. Wise people ignore it.
Just enjoy life and stop worrying about your inevitable death. You can't stop it, it's as natural as eating, breathing etc, so why worry?
708  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 27, 2015, 10:06:34 PM
Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.
709  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 27, 2015, 10:01:54 PM
Well nobody knows that, Atheist or otherwise.



i agree but if someone is following a religion, it is stated in their religious book about the life after death or something like that. but how about atheists? since they dont have a book and rely on science, bearing in mind science is more or less about theories which changes over time. i would like to know their views about it
I'm an atheist. If a write a book stating that we become unicorns after we die and even if others believe that, it won't make it true.
I for one don't think about that. The question can't be answered while you're alive. If you focus on the life and death paradox too much you might start going crazy.

You can always pick the easy route and believe afterlife fairy tales. Then there is no reason not to believe in the Stargate and the ancients either.  Cheesy


and what if it was not a fairytale? what if when you die you see that you will have a judgement day? this is a very interresting conversation to have. what will you do when whoever is out there starts questionning your doings? your beliefs? its just a question but still, what if?

The Atheists will be judged on their good or bad behaviour in life, the same as everyone else. Those that believed in the man-made religions in their life, won't get any special treatment.

Of course in reality I have no idea, just guessing like everyone else.

710  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 27, 2015, 09:35:20 PM
but i would like to ask to an atheist what happens after death?

Well nobody knows that, Atheist or otherwise.
Anyone claiming to know what happens is lying.



711  Other / Politics & Society / A UK resident? If so, prepare your anus. on: May 27, 2015, 01:58:21 PM
Best get a plentiful supply of Vaseline in stock as the government is aiming up for full penetration of any communication privacy you might have left.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32896921
712  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 20mb block increase = 20 times more transactions possible? on: May 26, 2015, 09:54:05 PM
the limit is around 7 so it will be 140

7 tps on paper. In reality, transactions are bigger than expected as they have multiple inputs and outputs, also multisig ones are bigger. I think 2 to 4 tps is more closer for a maxed out 1MB block in practice.
713  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 26, 2015, 06:09:42 PM
Poor analogy.

Religion is most certainly not a "safety belt".
It's a hardened steel chain, designed not for the benefit of the captive.



This is true about your religion of atheism or whatever it is. It might be true about many other religions, as well. If a christian thinks this about his Christian religion, he has a lot of re-thinking to do.

Smiley

Does religion grant permission for it's victims to think? I'm guessing that's strictly controlled.


Ask yourself that question about your religion. The only way you won't get an answer is if your religion doesn't allow you to think.

Smiley

No restrictions this end.

So, what answer does your religion give you?   Smiley

Nothing, because I don't use your twisted warped definition of the word religion that changes daily to suit the situation.


Since you have access to dictionaries just like most other people, your answer to the question, "nothing," simply means that you can't even hear yourself think. You are the most capable vegetable I have ever seen.

 Wink

Vegetable today, perhaps tomorrow you'll change some word definition around so I won't be. Fingers crossed.
714  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 26, 2015, 05:51:44 PM
Poor analogy.

Religion is most certainly not a "safety belt".
It's a hardened steel chain, designed not for the benefit of the captive.



This is true about your religion of atheism or whatever it is. It might be true about many other religions, as well. If a christian thinks this about his Christian religion, he has a lot of re-thinking to do.

Smiley

Does religion grant permission for it's victims to think? I'm guessing that's strictly controlled.


Ask yourself that question about your religion. The only way you won't get an answer is if your religion doesn't allow you to think.

Smiley

No restrictions this end.

So, what answer does your religion give you?   Smiley

Nothing, because I don't use your twisted warped definition of the word religion that changes daily to suit the situation.
715  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 26, 2015, 05:10:17 PM
Poor analogy.

Religion is most certainly not a "safety belt".
It's a hardened steel chain, designed not for the benefit of the captive.



This is true about your religion of atheism or whatever it is. It might be true about many other religions, as well. If a christian thinks this about his Christian religion, he has a lot of re-thinking to do.

Smiley

Does religion grant permission for it's victims to think? I'm guessing that's strictly controlled.


Ask yourself that question about your religion. The only way you won't get an answer is if your religion doesn't allow you to think.

Smiley

No restrictions this end.
716  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 26, 2015, 04:17:15 PM
Poor analogy.

Religion is most certainly not a "safety belt".
It's a hardened steel chain, designed not for the benefit of the captive.



This is true about your religion of atheism or whatever it is. It might be true about many other religions, as well. If a christian thinks this about his Christian religion, he has a lot of re-thinking to do.

Smiley

Does religion grant permission for it's victims to think? I'm guessing that's strictly controlled.
717  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 26, 2015, 03:56:25 PM
Poor analogy.

Religion is most certainly not a "safety belt".
It's a hardened steel chain, designed not for the benefit of the captive.

718  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 26, 2015, 02:52:36 PM
Ok, so to answer the original question, I (as an atheist) don't hate religion.  What I hate is religious people who try to enforce rules upon the general population.  Rules that they themselves do not follow.  For example the commandment that says "don't be gay" is preceded by one that says "don't wear wool and linen at the same time."  Also sodomy is defined (strictly speaking) as any sex that is not for procreation (or more loosely defined as non-vaginal sex including oral).  So, yeah I know a LOT of christians and none of them follow these rules.  So where do they get off trying to make other people follow them?

I have had christian friends that did not want to have premarital sex, so they had oral or anal in stead.  And yet gay people should not get married...

Anyway, to all the christians out there:

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST LEAVE EVERYONE ELSE THE F ALONE?!?

And stop saying stupid crap like gay people are like child molesters.  Seriously.



When a Christian sees an atheist, out of love for the life and soul of the atheist, he automatically wants to convert the atheist to God, so that the life and soul of the atheist is saved rather than damned.

Then the atheist gets angry with the Christian for telling him supposed nonsense. So he speaks against the Christian. Yet it is the Christian's idea to love and save the atheist.

After a time of being persecuted by atheists, some Christians become upset and fight back, even though they shouldn't. But can you blame these Christians?

Smiley

No. When a Christian sees an Atheist, he/she sees freedom, and naturally wants a piece of that freedom pie. There are many different reasons, fear and peer pressure being the dominant ones, that the Christian cannot have that freedom they see.
This gets them angry.
The correct way to deal with this would be to find the strength to break free of their chains, but only a few lucky ones manage.
The wrong way to deal with the anger is to try to remove the freedom from the other person, as once they stop seeing the freedom, their anger will disappear. They try to do this by good old fashion tried and tested fear. Pretending they are doing you a favour by "saving" you, when in reality they are trying to remove your freedom for their own gain.

Steer clear and keep your freedom.


Well of course it is different for every Christian, at least a little, but...

A Christian is aware of the fact that God owns everything, and that God is perfect. The Christian is aware that he is not perfect, because he can feel the sentence of death in his body - the coming of old age. This causes the Christian to fear God. Since God has shown Himself to be honorable among people, this fear turns into respect.

God is just, and punishes those who disobey Him. But He is also loving and merciful to those who try to obey Him, and believe in the forgiveness of Jesus in areas where they fail because of their imperfection.

It seems unfair when those who are against God - atheists, etc. - receive good things, while the good Christian often receives bad things. Certainly this can be upsetting to the Christian at times. However, this life generally lasts for less than a hundred years. So, that's less than a hundred years of enjoyment for the ungodly, and less than a hundred years of problems for the Christian. Then comes an eternity under the sentence that God will pronounce for each and every person individually.

Anybody who likes pain and problems is crazy.
Anybody who doesn't like pleasure and enjoyment and pleasantness is almost as crazy.
Anybody who chooses the good things here for 100 years, and thereby accepts an eternity of pain and problems, is crazier than the craziest.

Turn while you have the chance. Because if you don't, there may come a time for you that you will be locked in to your position of being against God, without the ability to change. Forever in the afterlife won't be fun for you.

Smiley

I keep telling you again and again. A god that demands worship via fear of punishment isn't worthy of my worship. The only thing that would do it that way (because it would have no other way) is the devil in disguise.
Yeah, have fun with that. Cheesy

Glaringly obvious when you think about it. Well.... It is for those with their eyes open. Kiss
719  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 26, 2015, 05:55:26 AM
Ok, so to answer the original question, I (as an atheist) don't hate religion.  What I hate is religious people who try to enforce rules upon the general population.  Rules that they themselves do not follow.  For example the commandment that says "don't be gay" is preceded by one that says "don't wear wool and linen at the same time."  Also sodomy is defined (strictly speaking) as any sex that is not for procreation (or more loosely defined as non-vaginal sex including oral).  So, yeah I know a LOT of christians and none of them follow these rules.  So where do they get off trying to make other people follow them?

I have had christian friends that did not want to have premarital sex, so they had oral or anal in stead.  And yet gay people should not get married...

Anyway, to all the christians out there:

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST LEAVE EVERYONE ELSE THE F ALONE?!?

And stop saying stupid crap like gay people are like child molesters.  Seriously.



When a Christian sees an atheist, out of love for the life and soul of the atheist, he automatically wants to convert the atheist to God, so that the life and soul of the atheist is saved rather than damned.

Then the atheist gets angry with the Christian for telling him supposed nonsense. So he speaks against the Christian. Yet it is the Christian's idea to love and save the atheist.

After a time of being persecuted by atheists, some Christians become upset and fight back, even though they shouldn't. But can you blame these Christians?

Smiley

No. When a Christian sees an Atheist, he/she sees freedom, and naturally wants a piece of that freedom pie. There are many different reasons, fear and peer pressure being the dominant ones, that the Christian cannot have that freedom they see.
This gets them angry.
The correct way to deal with this would be to find the strength to break free of their chains, but only a few lucky ones manage.
The wrong way to deal with the anger is to try to remove the freedom from the other person, as once they stop seeing the freedom, their anger will disappear. They try to do this by good old fashion tried and tested fear. Pretending they are doing you a favour by "saving" you, when in reality they are trying to remove your freedom for their own gain.

Steer clear and keep your freedom.





720  Other / Off-topic / Re: bitcoin Mastermind Ross Ulbricht Cries, Begs For Mercy Before Being Jailed Forev on: May 25, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
Your daily routine will consist of rapings by various gangs, none of which have any concern for bitcoin, being used as drug mule by various gangs, none of which use bitcoin as a medium of exchange, and being stabbed by various gangs, none of which will except bitcoin as protection money. If you are lucky, and shut up about fradulent bitcoin for long enough, an enlightened gang member may adopt you as his wife, or a guard may throw you in  solitary to go insane after you cry enough.

Well aren't you the experienced one with what it's like on the inside. It's foolish to believe just because you got treated like this, everyone else will too. Cheesy

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