That all sounds good but do you thing people who take small loans will worry about their online reputation and that is if we believe that they are providing all the legit info, which I doubt they are. And for the bigger loans, even if you find out all the info you need to sue someone, would you take the hassle and funds to sue someone in another country? The costs of doing that might be more than the loaned amount. IMHO it's quite foolish to give loans online without collateral, even with collateral they're not fully safe as the collateral might lose value.

Go here: https://sports.jetwin.ps/help/promotions/no-deposit and read the terms and conditions, basically you'd have to make the wagering requirements according to the terms of your given bonus and after you have done that you would need to provide documents for verification before you will be allowed to withdraw anything.

"JETWIN reserves the right to ask any customer to provide sufficient documentation for us to be satisfied in our absolute discretion as to the customer's identity prior to us crediting any bonus to his account."

First of all I think 2 mbtc is not really a good amount to start trading, IMHO you need atleast 0.05-0.1 to make anything worth spending your time for and asking here is not really a good idea, what would happen is you'd get altcoin shills suggesting you to buy their coins. Altcoin investment is really tricky, unless you know what you're doing, you'll just end up losing it all on a stupid investment.

This is my main concern, the buying/selling process has gotten difficult and I don't blame exchanges, for them to provide a service which involves lot of money coming in and going out it is required of them to ask for KYC documents from their users. But some people are not comfortable giving their IDs to these sites as they fear that website or hackers might abuse their documents. I usually buy bitcoins from a local dealer I met on LBC but there are times when he's not available or he doesn't have coins to sell and that's when it gets difficult. So far, LBC has not asked me for the KYC but I am sensing they might soon.

I don't understand why would people choose to lend online to people they don't know anything about and even that without any collateral. If you lend here on the forum you'd actually get better returns and since there is strict policy of no collateral no loan you'll get better security. Lending money on these lending sites is almost same as throwing it away, you might as well donate it to someone needy or gamble with it and enjoy it atleast imho.

I must say the site looks very fresh, I really like the theme and the colors and really loved the video and the way it popped up and explained everything in a very smart way. I was hoping to catch some bounties like twitter stuff but they were already claimed by someone else. Oh well, I'll keep an eye out and hopefully will be able to find some new ones. Great work! and good luck to your with your site.

Anything can happen, either you'll make some money or lose some but you will never lose all. It's hard to predict the market movement but if you think the price is going to go up in near future then go ahead and buy it but do remember if it doesn't you will have to keep hold of it until the price of it is over than your bought price and this is why trading is almost like gambling, you're trying to predict the future.

That's partly right, sure you can use it from any country if you have the internet but if buying/selling of bitcoins in your country is illegal then there might be consequences if government finds out that you're trading bitcoins and even buy/sell itself becomes difficult and acceptance relies on that, if you're a merchant you are not going to start accepting a currency which is considered illegal by your government.

I think it's just another Ponzi and I would advice anyone against investing anything in it. You have to ask yourself from where are they paying the visitors the interest? It's working as long as others are investing in it but it won't work forever. Also, this is why it in the Investor-based games section. But I think most people investing in it know what it is but they still continue to invest in Ponzis, the proof of that is that section is flourishing with new websites everyday.

This was reported by someone last month too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1215679.0 and a lot of others reported that they had their withdrawal stuck and therefore I guess it is safe to assume that the exchange is a scam and your coins a lost forever. They were apparently hacked in beginning of the year : www.coindesk.com/bter-bitcoin-stolen-cold-wallet-hack/ (although I think it was only a made up story and they did it themselves) and after that they restarted the exchange but I never understood why people started to trust them again.

Content. It looks really empty right now. And a little confusing as to what the website is really about, the name suggests that it's a bitcoin world but I don't see too many things about bitcoin, a few tutorials and all that rapped in one section and a whole lot of other sub headers on different things. I understand that it is a work in progress but you have to ask yourself why would someone visit this site?

You're bumping an old thread, OP reported this problem on November 4th and it was not the network problem but LBC was having some technical issues (as reported by them on their twitter)  and due to which the transactions were delayed and I assume OP's problem must have been resolved but he forgot to close the thread.

On normal days withdrawals from LBC are usually instant.

medUSA hasn't posted his designs yet, if anyone can defeat roslinpl, it's him. Both of them are superb designers and I really admire their work, they create image like signatures, which is very hard to do. Let's wait and see who wins between them, the rest will get the consolation prizes.

Lol, Both the masters are here now.

I don't even try anymore, it takes too much time and toll on the head to make something that's unique and stand out and knowing you won't make it to the top isn't a lot helpful.

Good luck to everyone! Maybe you'll be able to defeat the Masters, no need to take names, we know both of them.

I double and lose my coins many times in a month, the thing is I always lose when I get greedy and start betting on players/teams which have very less chances of winning, if I play sensibly and stick to the rule of making just 10-20% of the whole investment per day then I get better result but I try to win too much too fast and it doesn't always works out.

I don't think there is a sure way of doubling your money, whether you're trading, opening a new business, gambling, lending, there are always chances that you won't succeed and end up losing it all.

How do you know they don't donate already?

Most people prefer to donate fiat than BTC because they get tax rebates but just because they don't beat their drums and tell everybody that "Hey- I just donated this much money", does not mean that they don't, they don't need to tell anybody whether they donate or not. It's their money, they work hard to earn it (Yeah, running a Casino online/offline is not easy) and it's up to them what they decide to do with it imho.

Neteller won't let you withdraw the money you deposit through bitcoins, they make this perfectly clear in their FAQs, the money deposited through Bitcoins can only be used to send to other neteller merchants and/or services which accept neteller payments.

The best thing you can do OP imho is look for local traders on LBC, some might even offer cash trades, this is how I found a trader I buy coins from, especially since like me you're only looking to trade small amounts, I also buy $50-$100 from time to time and it's much more convenient and safe to trade face to face.

But even if you don't find a cash trader you'd find many traders with other payment options. Be careful with Paypal and other similar e-wallet services as most of them can be charged back.

It also depends on how you created these 21 addresses, for example if you created these online or at a computer which goes online then they are not safe, did you create them using electrum or other similar wallets because then someone could find all the addresses if they find the private key of one of those addresses.

So it is safe to split your coins in different addresses but you have to create these addresses securely and the safest way is doing it on an offline machine with a bitaddress.org source downloaded from github. Also, it is recommenced to have them encrypted, so even if someone gets hold of your paper wallet they won't be able to decrypt the key without the pass-phrase.

Ok. I thought the bet shows the bet initiated time but I was wrong, it shows the event start time. But DirectBet is right and OP is lying.


There is no way he knew where to send the BTC at 9:29 UTC and the TX was confirmed on the blockchain at 9:42 which is also prior to the bet was initiated at DirectBet.

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1ed6c002e9fc2f3052bb24aae60c3752b994745d168b5ffd34f72994ee2a505


I don't think now that it was an MITM attack, OP was trying to scam very cleverly but he got caught in his own lie.

Also OP, where did you went for 2 months, DB responded the same day you opened this accusation and after that you vanished and came back after 2 months. If someone had lost 2.32+ BTC they wouldn't just forget about it, I would expect them to stay active on the topic but you didn't. Which seems a bit shady to me.

I have been betting on directbet from a long time now and haven't had any problems but just a suggestion directbet, since this is an on chain site, maybe you guys should provide a signed letter of guarantee when a new address is issued for betting, same way as bitmixer.io does, which confirms that the address provided by the site is indeed legit. I still think what happened is the user was a victim of a MITM attack, he was shown a fake page with fake address and he ended up sending btc to a hacker's address.

Also, this is an old thread, I wonder why he stopped responding to it when DB first contacted him, which seems a bit suspicious to me.