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781  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 23, 2022, 04:53:20 PM
Don't forget the apparent alliances forming with Iran & China. Game theory this... simultaneously Russia moves on Ukraine as China takes back Taiwan and Iran launches into taking over large swaths of Iraq & Syria to create a direct front against Isreal.

The single reason for war hysteria switching to wartime propaganda mode is the need for war. Anglo-Saxon world is bankrupt. They need war to write off the mountains of non-performing debt. However, if there is a war it won't be the one they need! At the end they will have to pay back everything they owe to the rest of the world. Germany and France must be very careful not to side with the warmongers!


Correct. TPTB NEED a hot war right now.

Oil, for better or worse, is still the lifeblood of the world's economy. It's also the lifeblood of the global military-industrial complex. Which has been sitting idle for years now, since Afghanistan and Syria have wound down.

And rn that oil is not being consumed at the level they want. Worldwide consumer demand has fallen off a cliff. Supply-side inflation means less goods being shipped. They have too much oil buildup. The TPTB need it to be consumed more to support the current price levels, and to justify more production.

War has always been about money and profits, and attempting to spur economic growth.
782  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 23, 2022, 12:03:17 AM
before you said to move the discussion, you posted half a page a direct quote from an article of your opinions facts on the topic.

FTFY
783  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: January 22, 2022, 11:42:52 PM
Moved from the WO thread

Having said that, the claim that the virus is man made/manipulated and comes from the Wuhan lab is not particularly far fetched and is being put forward as the most possible origin of the virus in many reputable news sources...

This isn't even up for debate anymore. The truth has leaked out there, and the official documents released have not been debunked, by DARPA, govt officials, the MSM, or anyone else.

https://londondaily.com/images/22/01/JAG_Docs_pt1_Og_WATERMARK_OVER_Redacted.pdf
https://londondaily.com/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under-oath

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Project Veritas has obtained a separate report to the Inspector General of the Department of Defense written by U.S. Marine Corp Major, Joseph Murphy, a former DARPA Fellow.

The report states that EcoHealth Alliance approached DARPA in March 2018, seeking funding to conduct gain of function research of bat borne coronaviruses. The proposal, named Project Defuse, was rejected by DARPA over safety concerns and the notion that it violates the basis gain of function research moratorium.

According to the documents, NIAID, under the direction of Dr. Fauci, went ahead with the research in Wuhan, China and at several sites across the U.S.

Dr. Fauci has repeatedly maintained, under oath, that the NIH and NAIAD have not been involved in gain of function research with the EcoHealth Alliance program. But according to the documents obtained by Project Veritas which outline why EcoHealth Alliance’s proposal was rejected, DARPA certainly classified the research as gain of function.
784  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2022, 11:37:53 PM
<snip, snip, snip>Any further discussion should be moved to Bob's thread.

...posts a bunch of stuff, then says that the discussion should be moved.
...what about your post? move it too, pal, or are you the one who always wants to have the last word?
I thought so.


Wha? I said to move the discussion out of courtesy to everyone here who doesn't want to hear it on the WO thread.

But discuss away. Do you have something constructive to add on the docs I posted, or would you just rather ad hominem attack the messenger?

Pal.

<Covid stuff>

...i suggest to post where EVERYBODY agreed to post about this topic.

785  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2022, 10:18:18 PM
Having said that, the claim that the virus is man made/manipulated and comes from the Wuhan lab is not particularly far fetched and is being put forward as the most possible origin of the virus in many reputable news sources...

This isn't even up for debate anymore. The truth has leaked out there, and the official documents released have not been debunked, by DARPA, govt officials, the MSM, or anyone else.

https://londondaily.com/images/22/01/JAG_Docs_pt1_Og_WATERMARK_OVER_Redacted.pdf
https://londondaily.com/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under-oath

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Project Veritas has obtained a separate report to the Inspector General of the Department of Defense written by U.S. Marine Corp Major, Joseph Murphy, a former DARPA Fellow.

The report states that EcoHealth Alliance approached DARPA in March 2018, seeking funding to conduct gain of function research of bat borne coronaviruses. The proposal, named Project Defuse, was rejected by DARPA over safety concerns and the notion that it violates the basis gain of function research moratorium.

According to the documents, NIAID, under the direction of Dr. Fauci, went ahead with the research in Wuhan, China and at several sites across the U.S.

Dr. Fauci has repeatedly maintained, under oath, that the NIH and NAIAD have not been involved in gain of function research with the EcoHealth Alliance program. But according to the documents obtained by Project Veritas which outline why EcoHealth Alliance’s proposal was rejected, DARPA certainly classified the research as gain of function.

Any further discussion should be moved to Bob's thread.
786  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2022, 06:12:51 PM
So what we are seeing is the result of the Russian crypto ban fud + Kazachstan internet shutdown + WW3 scares + interest rate fud.

Thats a lot of FUD for one month. If China invades Taiwan and Ukraine gets invaded then I am seeing really nice buying prices for this year. 10k would be nice.

100k is coming, one way or another. The question is not if, but when.

What a funny coincidence that China, Kazakhstan, and now Russia are pushing out a concentration of Bitcoin miners....all right before a hot war outbreak in Ukraine?

Whose Bitcoin interests are they trying to protect?
787  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: January 22, 2022, 06:07:12 PM

https://twitter.com/business/status/1484406016171298816

Lord of the Shills: The Fellowship of the Vax

Lord of the Shills: The Two Jabs

Lord of the Shills: Return of the Mandates
788  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2022, 01:25:30 PM
$35(ish) k USD. now theres a dip i can get behind.

usually my buys are pretty well set up in advance (ladders, dca) with a small amount of "impulse" buys or sells here and there. but this? NICE! i shuffled some stuff around to free up some fiat and bought a good chunk o cheap corn. and still have some stuff i can dump for more btc if the dip keeps going.

Which it very well may, but I think it won't be down at these levels for as long as it was in the summer. Various indicators are starting to signal a policy error by the Fed, it won't be long before they start to reverse the jawboning.

If the past is any indicator, I think the Fed will do one superficial rate hike, likely 25 bp or so. The stonk market is already pricing this in.

Of course, the market will scary dip again on the news and the MSM will panic, and then the market will recover somewhat. The Fed will be mum after that, but completely pause on any further rate hikes when they come due this year. As they always do. This is a game that they play for the public, and you can almost set your watch to it.

Make no mistake though, the stonk market will be UP by the end of the year. It cannot afford NOT to be, and the Fed knows this. We haven't seen a down year in over a decade.

Yep, the market can't stay down as it backs up too much debt. Debt can't decrease, because if it does the monetary supply shrinks, then we get deflation. If deflation, then debt becomes a massive burden and causes destruction of more debt, through bankruptcies and paying down of debt, further decreasing the money supply. And if that happens the Great Depression will look like a walk in the park. The Fed knows this, and the whole point of this system is to avoid that very situation.

The money supply must continue to expand (money can only be created via newly issued debt) and if the economy can't do that by itself, the Fed will help out. End of story.

Exactly.

One other thing I left out of my post, is that when war breaks out in the Ukraine, the stonk market will dip again. The Fed will also use this as an excuse to pause further rate hikes.
789  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2022, 01:01:25 PM
$35(ish) k USD. now theres a dip i can get behind.

usually my buys are pretty well set up in advance (ladders, dca) with a small amount of "impulse" buys or sells here and there. but this? NICE! i shuffled some stuff around to free up some fiat and bought a good chunk o cheap corn. and still have some stuff i can dump for more btc if the dip keeps going.

Which it very well may, but I think it won't be down at these levels for as long as it was in the summer. Various indicators are starting to signal a policy error by the Fed, it won't be long before they start to reverse the jawboning.

If the past is any indicator, I think the Fed will do one superficial rate hike, likely 25 bp or so. The stonk market is already pricing this in.

Of course, the market will scary dip again on the news and the MSM will panic, and then the market will recover somewhat. The Fed will be mum after that, but completely pause on any further rate hikes when they come due this year. As they always do. This is a game that they play for the public, and you can almost set your watch to it.

Make no mistake though, the stonk market will be UP by the end of the year. It cannot afford NOT to be, and the Fed knows this. We haven't seen a down year in the stonk market in over a decade.
790  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2022, 08:58:17 PM
Sooo, it looks like WS "nobility" of the Fidelity and Black Rock are involved.
Gives you a perspective on this "dip"..similar to the internet dip of 2001-2002..just an excuse to load up on the cheap.

I think they're already loaded to the brim after 10+ years of bull run... just a matter of selling before the peasants.

Look at Netflix today, fucking hell.

I was 1.5-2 years early with netflix puts, but because of incredible volatility in March of 2020, I was able to sell NFLX puts (that were still $50 out of money) for a small profit.
In normal conditions, they should have been worth close to zero.

Netflix got pumped +20% since July. There are only back where they started then, yet people are ready to bail?

Not that I care, I'm not a Netflix investor so meh.
791  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: January 21, 2022, 08:07:50 PM
When you put in contrast that many, even most of unvaccinated people also get mild or no symptoms at all, just like vaccinated people (i omit the influence of time for simplicity), but carry viral load a bit longer, how can somebody who is vaccinated assume the symptoms were mild because he was vaccinated?

Precisely.

When I see people online or in real life who say "My Covid symptoms were mild, but thankfully I was vaccinated or it would have been SO much worse/ I might have died" or "That person died with Covid because they didn't get the vaccine", I absolutely cringe at the stupidity and lack of logical reasoning.

They might as well have said, "My Covid symptoms were mild, but thankfully Jesus stepped in and saved me, or it would have been so much worse/ I might have died." or "That person died with Covid because Jesus didn't step in to save them, they must have been a bad person and had no faith."

Both cases above are identical in their fallacy, because:

1. They don't know that to be true. They have absolutely ZERO way to prove that, nor any way to measure it.

2. They only have their faith of such, and that's all.

3. They state it as if it were a provable fact. It is not. There isn't any scientific data to back up that assertion, at all.

It also seems to be a completely one-sided fallacy:

If elderly, sick person A with Covid recovers from it and was vaccinated, then they say that the vaccine made all the difference in their recovery. But if elderly, sick person B with Covid dies and was vaccinated, they hand-wave that outcome away and completely ignore it as a fluke case.  Roll Eyes

In other news, our fucking retarded minister of health just put out a draft for privatization of approval of market authorisation for medical products, putting many standardised safety checks out of order, and - on the top - enables sending of personal health data to many institutions, totally breaking the rules of the EU GDPR.
In the draft, one of the allowed receivers of personal health data is referenced as "the agency".
WTF!, i mean W! T! F!
The fucker is trying to give the pharma industry a free pass to try their shit on humans without any consequences if something goes wrong. He is trying to put us into like a stone age of evidence based medicine.
Not too long ago, we were one of the leading nations regarding privacy rights in the whole world.
This is a criminal act.

Welcome to the club. The U.S. spent two decades espousing the supposed privacy rights of the HIPAA laws. Only to turn around and completely violate HIPAA behind the scenes in the last couple of years, selling patient data on the down low to every medical, health and pharma industry player they can sell it to. And the ignorant public here still believes that HIPAA privacy laws are being adhered to.
792  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2022, 07:57:58 PM
SPACs are basically the shitcoins/NFTs of the Wall Street world now. Just Pink Sheets 2.0 for the get-poor-quick meme generation.

Insiders divest on launch, getting rich whilst leaving the late investors holding worthless bags.
793  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2022, 05:46:21 PM
…..

Saying it's nonsense doesn't make it so, disprove the claims or get the fuck out of our thread.

As a general rule, it’s the job of the person who makes the claims to prove them true.
Not the job of the person who calls the claims nonsense to disprove them.
I can’t disprove the claim there’s an almighty invisible sky fairy living in the heavens.
But I still call the claim nonsense anyway.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5362774.msg58997889#msg58997889
794  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2022, 03:46:09 PM

https://twitter.com/saylor/status/1484350119944208385?cxt=HHwWgoCq2bqkvJkpAAAA
795  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2022, 03:01:52 PM

"WhAT iS GoiNg On WiTh ThE PRicE? WhY iS BiTCoiN FaLLinG?"

There's always at least one n00b that has to post that every. single. time.
796  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: January 21, 2022, 02:55:37 PM
797  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: January 20, 2022, 05:26:26 PM
It only took the CDC two years to admit what the real science had said all along.  Roll Eyes

798  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 19, 2022, 04:30:23 PM
Can someone please explain to me what the actual fuck is going on with the price action today?

Good grief.

799  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 19, 2022, 04:21:13 PM
EU regulator calls for a ban on proof of work Bitcoin mining to save renewable energy.

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The European Union should ban the energy-intensive system used to mine Bitcoin, one of the bloc's leading financial regulators has said.

In an interview with the Financial Times, vice-chair of the European Securities and Markets Authority (ESMA) Erik Thedéen called for a bloc-wide ban on "proof of work" crypto mining, saying the industry's energy usage was becoming a "national issue" in his native Sweden.

https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/01/19/eu-regulator-calls-for-a-ban-on-proof-of-work-bitcoin-mining-to-save-renewable-energy

Sweden is such a shithole.

If someone wants to set up a solar, wind, or hydroelectric generator on his private property and mine Bitcoin, its none of any government's business.

Next up: Citizens with private renewable energy capture will be forced to sell it back to the public grid.

I can hear the politicians now: "We must socialize all private renewable energy...for the greater good."
800  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2022, 07:08:50 PM
One interesting thing about tech adoption curves.  The further we go into new tech, the more aggressive the middle section is.



One of the things that can slow down an adoption curve is need/expense.  Look at air conditioning.  It is not an absolute NEED, and it is expensive to deploy AND maintain.  Same as dishwasher.  But look at electricity.  It is arguably very important, and you do not have to use much of it.

Bitcoin is facilitated by other curves.  Cell phones, internet, computers.  And it is more pure.  And it does not really have a price.  it *IS* the price.  you can store the value of a new set of tires in it just as easily as you can a fleet of commercial aircraft.

I predict the bitcoin adoption curve will be one of the most aggressive yet.  And I think that will also be reflected naturally in the price.

The issue with Bitcoin, is that much like gold, whether or not it is a need (a must have) is entirely depending on a person's mindset.

For example, high inflation affects us all, but only a very small segment of the world population is motivated enough to actually do anything about preserving their wealth. Or even CAN do anything about it. Even in countries where they currently have hyperinflation, you would think that by now everyone there would own a little bitcoin, but they still don't.
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