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on: August 18, 2021, 05:45:16 PM
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This is the catch-22 of bitcoin, and one of the more interesting topics of thought, in my opinion.
Some of the factors:
Some believe people will not want to SPEND a deflationary hard money, but rather will SAVE into it. As long as purchases with crypto are taxable events it disincentivizes commerce. Gresham's vs Their's laws... how does that play out?
My thoughts...
Even if Bitcoin was not "spent" much it would be useful. Currently in the west people are "saving" in the stock markets. You can't use stocks to buy things, and trades out are taxable events for most of us. And yet the stock market continues to flourish.
Same with gold. Gold is property. And people hedge with it.
But Bitcoin is a better hedge than either really. And the world is *juuuuust* figuring that out right now.
And here is the kicker. Bitcoin's properties make it the most natural electronic money ever. It is DESIGNED for commerce. So once people are in it they will start to move it around. I.E. SPEND it.
So... that's where it gets interesting. How will that unfold? Yes, I *do* think eventually people will spend their Bitcoin. I am just not sure about the path to that future.
Everything you said is on target. But one thing to keep in mind: The wealthy elite that buy bitcoin will never spend theirs as they view it as an asset. They will hodl btc and borrow fiat against it. The currency of the wealthy elite is debt (free money). They mean to set up a system whereby "spending bitcoin" is for the plebs, so that the wealthy elite can get a cut of every transaction. Moar easy money for them. Also as the plebs spend their bitcoin, then more btc will flow into the coffers of the wealthy elite over the long term. Which they will continue to stack. So with regard to bitcoin, should we do what the wealthy elite do with it, or should we act like the pleb masses?
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: August 15, 2021, 05:26:33 PM
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A nice advice for all those who want to invest in bitcoin that you won't get rich overnight as no one has ever become in most cases but you need to think about safeguarding your future like you take insurance policies and plans for your kids and old age.So it is better not to regret at that time making same false and lame excuses.Be part of it now. Interesting how the sheeple sit on the sidelines watching bitcoin do a 5X since pre-Covid, and do nothing, while also watching inflation reek havoc on the food/goods/services that they buy daily during the same timeframe and feel no way to escape it.
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on: August 15, 2021, 05:13:28 PM
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Now that there are bitcoin-based NFTs, I'm willing to entertain the idea of them having some valid use cases. Digital collectibles, souvenirs, in-game items, etc., are the obvious cases. But real-world items too, anything with a serial number could have its ownership connected to an NFT. Guns, cars, real estate, stock market certificates, etc.If I have legal copyright to a personal IP or work, and I sell you the NFT to that IP or work but do not transfer the copyright over to you, good luck trying to prove in a court of law that you truly own it and I do not (news flash: you will lose). This is reality. NFTs have revolutionized absolutely nothing. Sorry to put it so bluntly, but in this case I feel like blunt is the only way to get the point across. Bitcoin is revolutionizing the world.
This we can agree on.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: August 14, 2021, 05:42:39 PM
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You're mistaking your inability to search with some sort of conspiracy. It's been debunked and forgotten.
I mean, what the fuck are long term studies even good for anyway, amirite? Bob, in the absence of long term studies and data, you aren't supposed to exercise caution with new drugs. You're supposed to kiss caution to the wind, jump in and YOLO. Oh, wait..
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: August 13, 2021, 12:32:38 AM
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My body is ready for this seemingly endless accumulation/shenanigans to be over and btc moving beyond 1,2,3 etc tril (on the way to 10-11 tril first, then maybe 100 tril). I think that we were tested enough in the last 8 years or even longer (for some others).
The funny thing about when Bitcoin adds another '0' to the end of the price....it always does it when either the public isn't looking, no longer cares, or both. I've got friends, family, and colleagues that have already forgotten about btc hitting an ATH in April...in fact they have already forgotten about it period.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: August 11, 2021, 02:23:49 PM
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As for me, I prefer my books in PDF format, or anything that I can easily convert into PDF, as I can then save that forever and read it offline, and nothing will change that too. I understand some tech or movement is out there to just use plain .txt files or something.
PDF has some issues because it is a display/layout format and doesn't work well with some devices. It's not terrible though. epub and mobi are basically marked-up text which is designed for reflow and is fine as an archive format. PDF is preferable for some works which rely on layout so there are some competing aims there. FWIW, the PDF format was originally not open but it turned out their protection was incredibly weak. Plain text has a whole range of issues as a book format and is only really any good for the simplest of works. Yeah, I understand this, it was like ... a bunch of things Adobe did that protection was weak, like all their previous generation software, particularly Photoshop (which is why everyone seems to have it, or it's always at the top of the list on the pirate bay.) I still don't understand why most retail users are still using Adobe Photoshop. As a graphics designer I used it for the better part of a decade, but now GIMP does pretty much everything PS can do and more. And it's free. I switched over to GIMP years ago and never looked back. And for pen drawing/painting, Krita is the bomb.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: August 05, 2021, 07:03:17 PM
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Comes from Tuur Demeester Always good content I would like to merit this, but his assessment of 'All other crypto' for #2 Medium of Exchange completely killed it for me. 1. For example just look at Ethereum, the transaction fees are completely off the charts and unaffordable. 2. You can't spend the thousands of shitcoins out there anywhere, on anything. These 2 things alone make 'All other crypto' worse than Fiat as a medium of exchange.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: August 02, 2021, 06:44:13 PM
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Here are my 2c on Fed vs bitcoin.
It looks like the gov is in a mad rush to find anything extra that they could tax and spend. In lieu of this, I think that it is exceedingly unlikely for them to effectively ban bitcoin, etc. since they would be decreasing, not increasing their tax base. Witness gradual opening of the weed trade in US, the taxation of which definitely contributes to the individual states coffins. There was no tax and no revenue henceforth when it was illegal.
That said, they project completely unrealistic (currently) amounts that they can raise via bitcoin taxation as it is a small sliver of the overall economic activity and there lies some problems as they expect a lot more than they would see and when they would see a trickle instead of the flood, what conclusion would they have? The answer is rather obvious and it would NOT be that they admit to overestimation.
Exactly. On weed: The people believe that "finally the govt is coming around how harmless weed is, and that is why they're making it legal." No you idiots, in these desperate times, they are desperate to tax your weed purchases. It has nothing to do with the govt protecting or not protecting you. Hell, they would legalize fentanyl, heroin, and crack cocaine and make it OTC if the health risks weren't so bad. At this point they don't give a shit what the people buy (within reason/legality), as long as they can tax it. They are desperate for money and are looking under every rock.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: August 01, 2021, 03:55:31 PM
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Of course, that thread link is a great reference to attempt to devolve into stock to flow analysis - even though I still remain of the opinion that stock to flow has never been close to breaking, and so whatever, I might be getting into linguistics a wee bit, because personally, if the price were to underperform and stay in this range or lower until the end of this year, then sure maybe some of the curves of the model would need to be shifted downward.. but I would still not concede that the model would be broken, even if it were required to be shifted downwardly in order to have better co-integration of data to the projections.
Another aspect is that there may well be some pretty powerful folks (whether we refer to them as bearwhales, governments, status quo financial institutions, other entities/persons who would like to cripple or kill bitcoin, those who want to manipulate bitcoin to make a profit, or some combination of these folks/entities) who would like to provide both factual and proclamation evidence that stock to flow is broken... yeah, play around what they like, they might get lucky in killing/crippling bitcoin, but the more likely outcome is that bitcoin prices are going to revert back to the mean of the stock to flow model, even if it could experience extended periods of divergence... 6-24 months or even longer, perhaps? perhaps?
I agree. I believe the S2F model is sound...for now. PlanB is given quite the runway in that the price still has all the way to 2023-2024 to violently correct upwards to the mean trend line and still be in play. If it doesn't after that, well then, the model will be broken. I feel that tracking "adoption" vs. price is meaningless at this point, as retail Average Joe investors as a group have an insignificant/inconsequential amount of price pressure capability compared to high net worth, big finance, and institutional adoption.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: July 31, 2021, 05:21:45 PM
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Unfortunately, their guaranteed predictions never come true, so the next narrative is always ready to be released once defending the previous version of The TruthTM has become untenable. That's why all the Independent ThinkersTM switch narratives at the same time - they're ultimately getting them from just a few sources.
At first we were all going to die from the vax - the narrative just fit too well with the classic "depopulation agenda". Once that didn't materialize, they tried the "be afraid of side effects" route. That one wasn't working too well, since it's too easy to realize that side effects (even excluding death) from COVID are orders of magnitude more likely & more severe than from any of the vax.
Now we shifted to "we will die from the vax later" and "infertility" - narratives which are sufficiently long term that they can be milked for a while before they have to be replaced due to actual reality disproving them.
This is the perfect example of what I like to call the "Invisible Dragon" argument. It goes like this: I have an invisible dragon sitting next to me. Prove it does not exist.Any argument made will result in a simple explanation that expands the powers of the invisible dragon. It doesn't displace air because it has no mass. You can't touch it because matter bends around it. And so forth and so on. The root of the problem is the person making the assertion is demanding that other people *disprove* the assertion when the responsibility for proving the assertion is that of the asserter. The only way to handle this argument is to walk away. Same thing here: The virus will kill people in a month by the millions. Then a year. Then 10 years. Then "infertility". Always things that can't be tested, can't be proven, and when they do fail you just slip in another argument. It's a lot like the Millerites in the 1830's. This nutcase bunch attracted thousands by saying the world would end in 1843. When that didn't happen a "mistake" was found and it was 1844. Then it became "soon" and the sect split into the 7th day Adventists (nutcakes) and Jehovah's Witnesses. And they roll along to this day, saying the end of the world will be "soon". After all, try to prove the world "won't" end next week..... Annoying that people still fall for this crap. Yes, the flip side argument of pro-vaxxers that "We will all die unless 80%+ population gets the vaccine" or "We will never achieve herd immunity unless 80%+ population gets the vaccine" is the exact same invisible dragon argument. As time continues to prove them wrong, they will continually move the goalposts. A few years from now it'll be "We'll never completely 100% eradicate Covid infections and all of its variants because more people refuse to get the vaccine." Something that would be true regardless.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: July 30, 2021, 04:48:45 PM
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Conclusion: I think that at some point almost all will get infected (in the range of 75-90%) and, hopefully, vaccines would help with reducing mortality and serious effects-that's what the main purposes should be anyway, but people would get upset by the fact that current vaccines (even the best) are not as clear-cut as we all hoped them to be.
Either way we will get herd immunity its just whether we do it the easy or the hard way. Personally I took the blue pill, if I was younger it might have been the red..Yeah, but if you gain immunity through having your God-given immune system work for you as intended, the media wants you to feel like a shitty and selfish person. Shame on you!
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