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1041  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 20, 2021, 11:40:21 PM
Hmm I am out of town so no btc access. Could not sell any at 66k+

Wont be able to sell any until 26 hours from now.

no worries still looking good.

Are we supposed to feel sad that you didn't sell any btc?

You may be in the wrong forum thread. Just saying.
1042  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 20, 2021, 04:13:06 PM
InvestAnswers just said something I've been thinking about for a while.

Although paying off my mortgage is something I could do with the BTC gains he pointed out if you borrow against 2-3% it's really (almost) free money considering the massive inflation rate.
Michael Saylor has been talking about the near zero business loans also.
At least mortgages for individuals are still low, unlike ridiculous credit card rates.

Furthermore I believe BTC will go much higher.
A $1 million BTC and even $10 million BTC in the next 5-10-15 years will not surprise me. Well before my mortgage ends anyway.

Also, these free interest loans on furniture etc make sense since you will really pay less over the entire period rather than in 1 chunk today, again due to inflation.

For you, yes paying on a low interest mortgage while letting your bitcoin ride is probably the way to go for now.

But keep in mind, that you may still want to pay if off earlier than 30 years.

Here's why: Most young people don't anticipate ever getting laid off (even once, much less several times) and don't believe ageism is even a thing.

You really think that you'll stay employed for 30 years solidly straight with enough income (adjusted for insane inflation) to keep paying that mortgage every month/year and still have enough income left over to survive? You think that you'll be payed the same or more at 60 yrs of age, than you were making at 30? Or even adjusted for inflation? Think again. The time of 30 year careers with ever increasing income that keeps up with inflation is over. More like 15 at best, and then you'll hit a wall and have a career crisis. Throw in a failed marriage with some kids, and watch your financial net worth nearly reset back to zero.

Btw, this pandemic forced more people into early retirement than any other downturn in history (other than the Great Depression). And this won't be the last one, there will be major shake outs like this every 7-10 years.
1043  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 20, 2021, 03:51:11 PM
Paul Tudor Jones says crypto is his preferred inflation hedge over gold right now
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/20/paul-tudor-jones-says-crypto-is-his-preferred-inflation-hedge-over-gold-right-now.html

What a shock.
1044  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 20, 2021, 03:43:47 PM
.... mainstream media is just the biggest piece of shite, in fact it is positively toxic to the well- being of individuals and society

... how wrong have they been about bitcoin? And duplicitously wrong too. Deceptive, conniving, secret agendas, lying, foolish, lazy, all the worst traits of humanity in one little package of shite

But if you think about it in retrospect, it all makes sense. The decade long smear campaign against Bitcoin was all by design.

How many new millionaires would have been minted worldwide by now, had the MSM and financial elite promoted and evangelized Bitcoin since $1/btc? Or $0.10/btc?

Far, far too many. If everyone quits working because they are newly bitcoin rich, guess how many debt slaves they have left to pay taxes, mortgages, and loans? Nada. The world's economies would crumble overnight.

They couldn't have that. Only a handful of wealthy elites get millions of shares of Amazon or Facebook at $0.001c/share pre-IPO. Not millions of Average Joes. That's not how it works.
1045  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 20, 2021, 03:15:34 PM
I can smell them from a mile away...

1046  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 19, 2021, 10:58:24 PM
So...back during the summer, when Elon Musk said he wasn't selling any bitcoin, and one of his twitter followers asked "because you know something's coming?" and he basically replied something along the lines of "wink wink."...

Can we now safely agree that all these wealthy elitist fucks have (illegal) insider information months and months ahead of the public?

Because, yeah...they fucking do. They really fucking do.
1047  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 18, 2021, 09:50:08 PM
Got to say I'm a bit disappointed: We just closed the weekly ATH a few minutes ago, are at 62,500 and there is not one picture of a train anywhere on this forum.

What happened?

After 8 straight years of Goxxing, FUD'ing, exchange exit scamming, Govt reg scaring, China banning, and Musk'ing, I'm all outta train and rocket pics.

1048  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin, I salute your final ATH. on: October 18, 2021, 05:29:46 PM
Still right. Not worried.

You omitted your maths and science.

Fail.
1049  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 18, 2021, 01:14:47 PM
Just goes to show how clueless these people really are about the Bitcoin market.

They are as clueless about Bitcoin and life in general as we are. Everybody just tries things. Some things will work out, some don’t.

One thing is clear: nowadays it’s better to fail by buying into Bitcoin, than failing by not buying Bitcoin.

The Gauntlet has been thrown.



No doubt. My decision to heavily invest in bitcoin in 2013 was literally life-changing.

The best decision of a lifetime.
1050  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 18, 2021, 01:10:41 PM
Shitcoiners when asked what their shitcoin is used for.

https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1450004754587861013

That couldn't be more dead on.
1051  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 18, 2021, 01:00:14 PM
I can't believe that a CEO of a major financial institution is quoted as studying the PlanB S2F model, which was created by a nobody.

Absolutely surreal.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/17/bitcoin-bull-mark-yusko-sees-trouble-at-60000-says-its-overbought.html

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“There are a lot of people that think we could hit $100,000 by the end of the year. The stock to flow model says we should,” the Morgan Creek Capital Management CEO and CIO told CNBC’s “Trading Nation” on Friday.

My comment was not so much a hit on PlanB's S2F model, but moreso that a wealthy elite with access to the world's smartest, highly paid quants is basing his bitcoin buying decisions on something created by the community at large. Just goes to show how clueless these people really are about the Bitcoin market.

1052  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 17, 2021, 07:23:02 PM
I think that you don't get the idea: instead of selling bitcoin and PAYING up to 50% in taxes, you get cash that you need now. Then, for example 3 years later (of course you borrow somewhere close to the peak price) when bitcoin is at ATH, you can use a FRACTION of bitcoin that you borrowed against to close your loan. Taking a loan would be having the necessary chunk of cash now, but effectively selling bitcoin at a price of 3 years LATER.

At LTV of 25% the interest is 1%. You can't get a loan like this when you buy a house, at least in US.

I am not planning to either sell or take a loan at the moment, but this "method" surely beats selling and paying a HUGE amounts of tax.
All rich do this. How do you think Musk had billions to invest in Space X (he borrowed heavily against Tesla stock to the tune of billions)?

TL;DR Want to pay lotta tax, sell; don't want to pay tax (lawfully), take a loan.

EDIT: you can also use a part of the loan to reinvest in bitcoin options, if you are super bullish or bearish and leverage your position.

Which specific service are you talking about? Inquiring minds want to know.
1053  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 16, 2021, 12:17:13 PM
If I sold a piece every time philipma sold a piece, I'd be... well, broke and not bitcoin rich.

Maybe rich, but Bitcoin poor

Few understand what’s more important
will sell another piece based on this advice.
will buy another piece based on this advice.

will always be buying another piece no matter what anyone elses advice is or what they do.

...except when i sell a piece no matter what anyones elses advice is or what they do.

Will be buying another piece based on this advice, and break it up into smaller pieces so each piece is worth more.

Few understand this.
1054  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 15, 2021, 09:06:32 PM
If I sold a piece every time philipma sold a piece, I'd be... well, broke and not bitcoin rich.
1055  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 15, 2021, 08:57:01 PM
What I find odd is that alts are doing nothing. ETC is not climbing like this and LTC is at .003 to Bitcoin. It's been .004 all summer and was around .01 last year.

So there is a decoupling here. Odd.

This is, and always has been, the great delusion among the shitcoin beliebers: that shitcoins won't fall and trail behind Bitcoin (news flash: they will, and the gap will continue to widen).

"Crypto diversification" is the great lie that establishment trolls/shills have successfully spread through their astroturfing and gaslighting efforts.

Shitcoins are to Bitcoin, what the pink sheet penny stocks are to the FAANGS: garbage.
1056  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 15, 2021, 08:24:07 PM
The Jamie Dimon clown show contra indicator:

1057  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 15, 2021, 06:49:16 PM
Interesting...


https://twitter.com/JSeyff/status/1449010847074897933

1058  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 15, 2021, 03:14:18 PM
Bitcoin ETF approval imminent, or yet another head fake bull trap?

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/15/bitcoin-etfs-may-finally-make-their-debut-sort-of.html

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Cryptocurrency enthusiasts and the exchange-traded fund industry are bracing for the first bitcoin futures ETF to begin trading Tuesday, when the ProShares Bitcoin Strategy ETF is scheduled to debut at the New York Stock Exchange.

There is, however, one catch: The ETF goes active unless the Securities and Exchange Commission objects to the filing, which can happen right up until midnight Monday.

Despite the uncertainty, many believe the odds are in favor the ETF will begin trading as scheduled.

“I would give it a 75% chance of approval,” ETF Trends director of research Dave Nadig said.
1059  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 14, 2021, 07:55:15 PM
Amazing to me that when bitcoin first crossed the $58k/btc mark, everyone was collectively losing their shit.

Now that we're here again, everyone is like "Meh. When $200k?"  Roll Eyes  Smiley
1060  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: October 14, 2021, 07:48:52 PM
Watch as Sanjay Gupta squirms like a motherfker on Joe Rogan's show when questioned about Ivermectin:

https://twitter.com/remingtonreid/status/1448417086380945409
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