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1121  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 25, 2021, 01:47:46 PM
About LN, very interesting posts there, especially the long one by hisslyness (many thanks to him). I also remember Bob's struggle with LN some years back.

I don't know... I've never set up a LN node or anything, so I can't have an informed opinion, but the feeling I get by reading about it, is that it looks cool, simple, fast, cheap on the outside, but is quite complicated and messy on the inside. Also, the constant need for pampering the node, in order for it to function properly, is not good. These are not good signs, and I fear that they may cause problems for its future/success. I hope I'm totally wrong on this.

The whole thing brings back memories of Mike Hearn's blog post where he declares he's abandoning the Bitcoin project, and even jbreher's transaction limit posts here in WO... Don't get me wrong, I'm totally in favor of 2nd-layer solutions for micro-transactions and believe this is the future, but I sense that something may not be quite right (yet) in the current state of affairs in this matter. Just thinking out loud...

Yes, LN has been undergoing ever-increasing rounds of complexity as it seeks to provide what Bitcoin does on-chain off-chain. There are all sorts of caveats, gotchas and pitfalls and the need to settle on-chain introduces some interesting limitations as discussed by Peter Rizun and the scope creep has been quite large also (LN was originally envisioned for micro-transactions). Unfortunately, the censorship initiated by Theymos also removed a lot of the warning voices regarding potential issues with LN from the community and a largely sanitized presentation has prevailed. Hisslyness's post of his experiences is not too unexpected really.

I'm not going to make the obvious argument here because it's not helpful in context. It would be nice if LN could succeed but it seems to be very much an example of second system syndrome.

Agreed. Hopefully it can be salvaged/fixed, or maybe lessons will be learned and a LN 2.0 network can be established in the future.

One thing they absolutely *cannot* do is hold on to a bad model/system that is overly complex and costly, all due to hubris. The promise of LN was supposed to be "fast, easy, zero fee micro transactions."

Otherwise it'll become nothing more than what Ethereum has done. We don't need another broken Rube Goldberg chain with extortionary fees that is continuously gaslighted as "the next greatest crypto thing".
1122  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2021, 09:26:29 PM
Here's my new working theory on how the next bear market will begin...it's like they are already breadcrumbing it to the public.

1123  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2021, 09:12:59 PM
F***ing Bobby the n00b

Hope he’s right for the first time of his predicting career

Used to be on the wrong side of the table, like always


He spends way too much time proclaiming what he wants to happen, than accurately predicting what will happen using...something. Some data. Anything.

ie. A blowhard cheerleader.
1124  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2021, 05:49:54 PM
WRT to China, I'll just leave this here...YMMV   Wink   Grin

1125  Economy / Speculation / Re: I have become cautious on the market on: September 23, 2021, 01:48:43 AM
This implies traders are short selling.

In order to create large long positions...

1126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 21, 2021, 07:21:09 PM
PSA: My fellow WO'ers, there's a reason that the month of September has always traditionally been bad for stonks (and now Bitcoin is no exception).

Remember "Sell in May and go away"? Yep, deep pocket Wall Street traders sell off their positions in May so that they can go and play all summer long, take extravagant vacations, fuck off, etc.

So they come back to the trading table after August is over, ready to start fresh trading again.

You think they're just going to take up large positions again at whatever the current market price is? Nope. They are going to open large short positions first, and then short like hell, scooping up cheaper equities (and now sats) as the rest of the mom & pop retail traders freak out and sell. The MSM helps them out by spinning a convincing narrative of market doom and gloom.

Shit like this:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/20/cramer-says-take-crypto-profits-cites-evergrande-related-tether-risks.html

So cheer up and BTFD.

Remember that for them, the stonk market has to end at least +10-12% in the green for the year by Christmas or they are losing wealth. And this includes Bitcoin.
1127  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 20, 2021, 04:20:47 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/realty.economictimes.indiatimes.com/amp/news/residential/china-moves-to-cap-the-cost-of-renting-a-home-in-cities/85835286

China moves to cap the cost of renting a home in cities

3 weeks ago..


There you go.. China regulated something something and BAM real estate market crash..


Government sticking their noses into the free market ... yada yada ..

Read more..

This real estate collapse in China is not “out of nowhere”...


They did it themselves, but ya might be hard pressed to find much documentation stating that.. Lot of news sites don’t talk negatively about the CCP very often ... for some reason..
Wonder why...Huh



https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202107/30/WS6103316ba310efa1bd6655e1.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/china-moves-to-ease-child-rearing-costs-in-drive-to-boost-births-11626799245
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-16/china-says-hong-kong-s-next-leader-must-tackle-housing-crisis
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.com/business/china-business/article/3124231/two-sessions-2021-china-expand-land-supply-rein-runaway

"Out of nowhere" is the narrative they are selling to the public. See also "didn't see it coming."

However, the public should be questioning the timing. Why right now, at this precise moment in time? Why not a year ago, or two years ago? Or five years ago? Extreme over-leverage, lack of liquidity, and lack of earnings was just as bad then as it is now, if not more so. The CCP could have tightened monetary policy at any time within the last 5 years, but they chose to punt. Why tho?

A: Because the deep state is both the arsonist and the firefighter, that's why. They create crises on demand and when needed. They wait and choose the precise moment to do it. All they have to do is to stop supporting markets with more debt liquidity and boom: instant crisis. And guess what the fix is? More money printer go brrr. More bailouts for banks and the wealthy elite. And another paltry stimmy check for granny who just lost her part time job at Walmart...
1128  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 20, 2021, 02:19:41 PM
So let's see... 1. Stimulus checks over. 2. Unemployment payments ending. 3. Housing moratoriums ending, evictions starting.

Thus consumer spending and GDP falling like a brick.

And now, liquidity crises around property developers in China suddenly appear out of nowhere.

Coincidence? I think not. The Fed & Treasury took away the punch bowl too soon.

If the stock market tanks significantly, then just watch as U.S. Congress not only raises the debt ceiling, but they'll vote for and pass another multi-trillion $$$ "stimulus plan" so fast that it'll make your head spin.

Gotta avert that crisis. All by design.  Wink  Roll Eyes

And the sheeple will applaud.
1129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2021, 05:05:47 PM
Reaching 80-90% will most likely stop the spread completely.
Israel would like to have a word with you.

Quote
% of population fully vaccinated 61.6%

Your point? 61.6% isn't 80+%.

Actually it's more like 76% above the age of 12. But you think hitting 80+% vaccinated in Israel is going to suddenly cause the newly reported cases drop to zero? Or to some insignificantly small number of cases?

I'm sure that you do. But I guess as long as they remain below 80+%, you can keep moving those goalposts indefinitely, huh?  Wink

1130  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2021, 01:23:31 PM
Reaching 80-90% will most likely stop the spread completely.

Israel would like to have a word with you.
1131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2021, 10:02:32 PM
"Trust the science", they say?

Well "the science" shows that a vaxxed and an unvaxxed person can carry and spread the CV19 virus equally just as well. And a vaxxed person can still contract the virus at a later point. In fact, there is a very good chance that a vaxxed person would likely contract the virus from another vaxxed "asymptomatic carrier" around them, who is more likely to break social distancing rules because of a false sense of trust and supposed minimal symptoms.

So if they feel protected, I'm still left wondering why the vaxxed care so fkn much about what the unvaxxed do again?

I've even seen a vaccinated person who claims to understand "the science" take a step back from someone who said "I had Covid, but I'm fine now because I have natural immunity!" Talk about fkn delusional behavior.
1132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2021, 01:28:09 PM
Sup frens.

Just tested negative for COVID-19, so I'm out of the woods, and Rick and I both have a robust natural immunity now.

Was about what we expected, although I have not ever experienced an illness coming on "so hard and sudden" like COVID-19 did. Started feeling bad in the late morning, and by late afternoon it felt like I was figuratively smeared by a freight train. Started a slow steady recovery by day 4, and by day 10 I was feeling 95%. Day 13 today, and I'm practically at 100% again.

Heading out to the ranch this week to start checking out progress. Fun times ahead.

Have a great weekend, and don't forget to sun your taints!

Congrats on miraculously surviving! /s

I would say "Prepare to be forced to get the vaccine anyway, because the govt mandates that you do regardless of natural immunity", but you're retired and living in TX. So you will probably dodge that bullet.
1133  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 16, 2021, 08:38:32 PM
But you should have $1000-$2000 on your phone  if you have a lot of $$ and they find zip on your phone it looks shady . They may go $5 wrench to unlock your phone and you do not have a dime on it.

My father-in-law owned a bar he went home with 3 bank rolls.

He would use 1 for the nervous thief
He would use 2 for the calm thief
and he had the third ready for the really smart thief

He never needed the 2nd or 3rd bank roll.

I understand the principle, but I personally don't have anything on my phone except pictures and emails, perhaps my online bank accounts (which still need a password), but no bitcoin or other crypto. That's not so strange I think.

I mean, if you get mugged and you have maybe $200 in cash on you, they will take your money and they may take the phone (which they will just sell anyway) but they're not going to bother finding out what is on that phone.

Exactly. The best thing is to not even signal that you own any bitcoin:

1. Don't store bitcoin in a wallet on your phone.

2. Don't have bitcoin screen savers on your phone/laptop/desktop.

3. Don't wear bitcoin related t-shirts, socks, ball caps, etc.

4. Don't have bitcoin coffee mugs, posters, framed art, etc. strewn about your house.

5. Don't incessantly talk about bitcoin with strangers.

6. And for gods sake, do NOT run about with a license plate that says BITCOIN, BTCLOVE, CRYPTOZ, etc.

They won't want or try to steal what they don't think you own.
1134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 16, 2021, 03:51:54 PM
I would not use SMS that way, personally, because, that's exactly how hackers sim swap to get into your account. If I have google auth, or the secret, I keep that stored separately. Then I can always use that to generate the new time based one time code that changes every 30 seconds.

I actually don't use a phone or mobile device for my google auth codes, I use a separate computer.
I'm compromising in other forms of security but generally it's still better than what most people use or do.

Don't break your phone, or make sure you have the secret so you can easily use it on any other phone or device.

Precisely. I actually do use a dedicated tablet for that separate from my phone and other computers. It stays turned off and stored in a secured/locked, non-disclosed location when not needed, and I only turn on wifi for about 1 minute only to re-sync the google auth codes when needed every few months when I use it, and then turn wifi right back off again. The secret is stored offline and secured. I do all crypto related activity on a desktop only (with a hardware wallet), not on a phone. Actually never on a phone.

It boggles my mind that most crypto people I read about do everything, including crypto wallet storage and also authentication to their crypto accounts, all on one single device: their phone. Are they fkn stupid? It's almost like they want to get phished/hacked/scammed out of their crypto.

I will say one thing though: we will never achieve mass adoption of Bitcoin until storing and using crypto is as easy as having and using a bank account online. The masses will never jump through all these technological hoops in order to adopt bitcoin. They are too afraid of fucking something up and getting hacked.
1135  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 15, 2021, 09:14:51 PM
^ I actually catch myself more often thinking what china actually wants to achieve, lately.
Seems they are blindly trying to fix (economic) holes, not aware of the medium- and long-term consequences.
Short: "How to fail".

EDIT:
See, see... Bitcoin knocking at the € 41.000 door again.
Shouldn't take long until "the market" will open it  Grin

EDIT2: Of course, China may get a grip on their economy if they radically change it. They held the most powerful tool in their hands already, then they banned it, because they were too dumb to efficiently use their energy resources to get a significant share. But when you look at their totalitarian leaders, it was best this way for the rest of the world.

The Chinese govt worked very hard over the last ten years to stoke FOMO in their middle class and turn them from primarily savers into primarily consumers. They did this by issuing massive amounts of debt and building out consumer-driven infrastructure, i.e. "build it and they will come" with shopping centers, restaurants, hotels, high rises, venues, gambling, etc.

Some of it worked: the Chinese middle class has more money now, and they like to flex by shopping shopping shopping. Esp high end brands (think Nike, Calvin Klein, Prada, D&G, etc.). The middle class also increased their personal debt from 0 to something like $6K per household.

But much of it didn't work: the Chinese middle class still has little desire for buying houses (i.e., mortgages), cars (loans), expensive vacations, high end watches and jewelry, and all the little China-made crap consumer goods, etc. compared to Western countries consumption of those same things. Also, the average middle class Chinese family still has more savings than the equivalent Western family.

The biggest failure was not stoking enough internal consumerism to levels that match Western counterparts. As the rest of the world economies deflate, they desperately need their internal velocity of money to increase exponentially to compensate. So far, a big failure.
1136  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 15, 2021, 04:04:08 PM
The sheeple still don't realize what is happening.

The world economies are continuing to deflate. In a long term melt-up, the stonk markets will continue to be bought up on every dip with absolutely regularity every month via free money from the Fed.

The market noise between Jan and Dec of every year will be irrelevant, the stonk market will end the year at least 8-12% higher than the year before it. And the year after that, and the year after that. There will be no down years for the stonk market. Why? Because it has to go up, in order to offset massive yearly inflation. This is how the wealthy elite protect their wealth. And the middle class and poor, because they don't invest, continue to lose wealth (i.e. purchasing power) at an alarming rate.

Just look at this pattern:



Once you take the red pill and realize what is happening, you also realize that high value deflationary assets are your only savior. Bitcoin will outrun them all.

#BUYBTC



As a follow up to this, I'll leave an absolutely fantastic interview of Luke Gromen on George Gammon's channel that discuss much of what is happening in the world economies and markets in mind-boggling detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JpYiBFGLDQ

Some jaw dropping statements during that interview. These stand out:

"Inflation [and also sovereign debt] is a now matter of national security." *shudders*

"The wealth effect has become such a driver of consumer spending and tax receipts, that the Fed cannot allow the stock market to fall too much, and/or for too long." *double shudder*
1137  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 14, 2021, 09:33:28 PM
That's not true.  They are not too late.

It is true that bitcoin has pumped

It is true that bitcoin has pumped a lot

It is true that it would have been better getting in earlier

It is NOT true that bitcoin does not remain a great investment with a lot more upside potential

It is NOT true that nocoiners are too late


This all true.

We can lead horses to water, but we can't make them drink at the fountain of Bitcoin.

They would rather drink at the shitcoin fountains, get poisoned, and die. Because greed and ignorance.
1138  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 14, 2021, 02:53:35 PM
The sheeple still don't realize what is happening.

The world economies are continuing to deflate. In a long term melt-up, the stonk markets will continue to be bought up on every dip with absolutely regularity every month via free money from the Fed.

The market noise between Jan and Dec of every year will be irrelevant, the stonk market will end the year at least 8-12% higher than the year before it. And the year after that, and the year after that. There will be no down years for the stonk market. Why? Because it has to go up, in order to offset massive yearly inflation. This is how the wealthy elite protect their wealth. And the middle class and poor, because they don't invest, continue to lose wealth (i.e. purchasing power) at an alarming rate.

Just look at this pattern:



Once you take the red pill and realize what is happening, you also realize that high value deflationary assets are your only savior. Bitcoin will outrun them all.

#BUYBTC

1139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 11, 2021, 04:45:07 PM
Let's all take a moment to reflect on the current price of bitcoin.

We're currently at ~$46k/btc, which is 4.5X higher than we were pre-pandemic.

That is amazing! Unbelievable! A price level that seemed like a pipe dream when we were in the $7-9k trading range for what felt like forever.

I don't know about you guys, but if the price wants to go sideways for a while, and then do another 3X-5X every time the world's economies takes a crap and the Fed prints trillions more $$$, I think I'm ok with that.

Just me?
1140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 11, 2021, 03:22:14 PM
Proudly stolen from a shitcoin…


This was already many years back invented for the BTC narrative

So it’s been stolen by a shitcoin poster and re collected for BTc purposes

Oh shit! Quick to all the WO'ers, let's pitch in and buy the NFT for this btc meme jpeg before it can get copied and used by others.

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