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8241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: May 03, 2017, 05:00:34 PM
I do not know, I've never seen anyone get a profit in a very long time in a gambling game. Although he always wins, I think there are times when he will lose. He can not continue to make a profit in gambling.

You will really never seen that any of the gambler get profit on bitcoin most of the time.
because as always they are most often depending on their luck in every game they wan to play. Cheesy
In short it doesnt really exist at all believing on making constant or steady income or profits on playing gambling would just really happen only on our dreams. Gambling cant be profitable in the long run and this thing is mostly done my gamblers because they do really believe that this thing is possible which is actually dont happen at all thats why they keep losing and losing until they got broke.
8242  Economy / Services / Re: Earn $1000s PLUS a month on FOREX - Trade Copier join for $200 One time Fee on: May 03, 2017, 02:43:58 PM
I am one of the guys in the group.Initially it all went well when there were manual signals but once the copier got activated people started losing money(Not sure why not earlier?).I made some money initially and lost all of it later ..not only me...all of them in the group are in chaos right now as OP promised to cover the loses and he also said he would release training videos...now he left us all and scammed us .Everybody believed in him and he deceived us in the END!
Anybody knows what can be done?Can he be tracked in someway?What is the next best step?

Me as well i lost 900 EUR here. 400 EUR was profit i made when OP was giving manual signals. I don't think it can be called a scam as OP was transparent and he would have made more money on the copier as his trading signals were good but we always got stopped out by a few pips. Man if you see his call about usd-jpy dropping from 117 to 1.06. he called that months earlier. he was more correct than wrong but excuse given was stop loss  hit. Since joining his group i have been reading more into forex i really hope he comes back i honestly believe he had a bad run but he should really come back and try again i am up for another go if it works.




Even I was happy when signals went as per the predictions...but I am calling it a Scam coz he left in the middle of it.....i have waited enough and it's high time we realize we have been duped!

This is what he said few months back...
"Just because i am not here doesn't mean i've scammed anyone. the day members say i am not active on slack without a explanation is the day you can call me a fraud"

So it's safe to call him a fraud!

I don't follow his signals or pay for his service but a lot members did.
As i know from them, he have a quite long time to be in Slack and communicate because of some "copy-trader" bot that make all the trades. It's been a while ago... Undecided

But why it takes you and everybody else who invest and pay him, so much time to post something about this?
Ofc, it doesn't really matter, because he will also get vanished from here if he want to scam, which eventually did. Shame... Sad


The reason is simple....he did that earlier as well...he vanished from Slack and forum and got back few days later...but this time it's been months...!
If he vanished already for months then its official that its already a scam but knowing forex its really very risky and for those people who are just following his manual signals i would say you dont know forex at all because relying on someones signals anytime isnt guaranteed and results are not the same since market is very unpredictable and sad for those people who lose up too much on this service.
8243  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know if a gambling site is scam or not? on: May 03, 2017, 01:59:07 PM
I never had any troubles with choosing proper gambling site.
It is very easy in my opinion, because on every casino you should have found a tab called "provably fair" or similiar to that, with the available way to proove that your bets were random.
Also, there are hundreds of many different websites that list particular online casinos with feedback of users, or sometimes even a voting system.

We cannot forget about bitcointalk.org: it is very important place in which we can just check if the gambling website is scam, or a legit company.
Just ask the users, or browse through the forum sections.

To be honest, I has never got scammed by casino, or any user in there. All you need is to make precautions.
Agreed through our forum we can easily find the scam and legit gambling websites as number of gambling sites have been developed with bitcoin acceptance. Till now I too haven't encountered any issues with the gambling websites. Rarely settlement delay happens which is due to transaction issues which gets sought in a short.
Yeah all member this forum is kind person, they always give a review good or bad gambling and if one site do something wrong you will find the information to not play at there. but i guess we need to made deposit first to know that's website scam or not.
Why would you deposit first just to know the site if scam or not? since we can always seek out first for community experiences and feedbacks on a certain site.Lets say you heard that they are not paying some of their players on a certain site and you would decide to deposit just to justify it that they are scam,its really not sensible thing to do so.
8244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: May 03, 2017, 01:23:14 PM
Gambling problem leads to addiction, selling property or pawning property. Can also affects focus to important matters in life. Such as time to family, business or work, it would also affect your personality such creating detractors and criticism. Help can also be affected because you might lose proper or normal rest.
Gambling problem means addiction . Tongue, i am not sure online gambling could lead you to sell off your properties and keep on gambling those things might happen if you are gambling in a casino and the perks and the glitter could lead a person to do so and not online gamblers.If anyone feels that it is hard for them to quit consult an expert .

I believed that people before going to online gambling, used to be land based casino addicts. So its much possible that those people have sell properties like cars and houses has been sold off to continue their gambling addiction. But that's too extreme for me I guess and I will not to go that so that level because I know that It will ruin my life.
Not all but most of gamblers .selling things like that is a common thing to those who are totally addicted in gambling.
You're right that you dont want to go with that kind of worst doing that may ruin your life. Gambling problem is always getting addicted it. Chasing money in gambling is a wrong mindset.
We dont really like to come on that point because i already see it as an extreme situation or case of addiction.It will surely make your life miserable when you do still continue such thing.This is one of the things that will surely happen if you dont have control on playing gambling and its one of the common problem would be experienced.Addiction is the main reason why this thing will happen.
8245  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BITCASINO.IO IS SCAM on: May 03, 2017, 11:55:50 AM
100% SCAM, I LOSE 15$, I BET MARTINGALE 7th and lose
Like most anybody said here bitcasino.io is already known in the past that they are not provably fair which means results would really be expected to be lose thats why make your own research before playing a certain site. Heres the formula on this one ( Not-Provably fair + martingale system = Ultimate loss ).Lets say you are playing on other site which is legit and do make use of martingale,winnings or profits still not guaranteed and 7x lose isnt really surprising anymore because most gamblers even suffer 20x lose streaks.
8246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: May 02, 2017, 05:57:50 PM
I want to know if anyone here gambles or have gambled under the age of 18, I feel like there are many kids who do this and I am interested to see how many people actually gamble under 18, if you have any friends that gamble or have gambled under 18 include them.


EDIT: I mean mostly kids online, its hard to be a kid and gamble physically. I feel like the gambling rate for kids is increasing a lot and is gonna be a problem in the future, especially with the CS:GO situation.

EDIT2: Another question to ask, is what is your opinion on the topic of kids gambling, do you think it is a growing problem or a problem alone for that matter?

EDIT3: What is the best way to counter this problem without websites having to know your exact identity?

Another question to ask, is what is your opinion on the topic of kids gambling, do you think it is a growing problem or a problem alone for that matter?
- In my view on this matter,  it is true that kids gambling now was growing problem, I think some of the country
are also facing this kind of a problems which is not good actually Because they are just a kids and young.
Who's to blame for that, I guess it is not the progressing technology should be blame, instead blames are all to the parents or guardians for failure to do their job in monitoring their kids.


I disagree on blaming the parents or guardians for not being able to prevent underage kids to know about gambling. We all know that the technology has improved so fast that some parents or older people can not keep with the modern technology while young people can and are able to learn many things with it.

For me, it is not right to put the blame on our parents since we are capable to decide on our own. I know that they are the one who should be guiding us but that does not mean that in every fall we make, the blame should be put on them.

By law, parents are responsible for their children to a certain age. If a child commits a crime, then his parents did not properly educate him. Basically - it is, but there are exceptions.
Not all cases because there are parents do tried their best as they can on parenting well on their children but still it end up worse because of the influence of outside world and it cant really be avoided and this cases are really common nowadays and even myself could really prove that because im a parent which i do really do my best to guide them in the best good possible ways but still there are really times they do mess up.
8247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: why people use dice bot? on: May 02, 2017, 05:08:59 PM
Most of the people who uses a dice bot are using it to maintain a betting strategy.
But I just can not understand why do they do it, as all of the strategies will lead to a lose at the long run because the house has a rake over their users.


They do it because there is no other way.  Even if they do not maintain their strategy, they will lead to losing if they continue to gamble.  They use bot to make their betting easy for them.  Just setting up the  bot and leave it as is, and it will continue to bet according to your setup.  They can even leave it while running if they intend to use all their bankroll fund in playing. 
Exactly but they dont even know that it is only a losing move .[1]if they can pass through on it the first time sure the second time the seed will be adjusted it is all running by a system .[2]If you want to win take time to do manually ,people want easy work and easy money .
[1] No, you must read how provably fair works. The site doesn't need to adjust their system to prevent for each of your strategy.
[2] There are a lot of people who lost because they were gamble by manually. Your winning chance doesn't increased even if you are betting by manually or through dice bot.
Well its my experience and knowledge about some gambling sites thats why no stratedgy works for a longer time is because of the seeds .Every system of games have a seeds .
I gamble manually even i take time long lik in dice i earned from it unlike playing with bot .i cant counter the 21 streak lose.
Countering streak lose is really very hard specially when you do use bot because results would really be fast which it cant really give you time to stop when you are hitting bad losing streaks and also 21 lose isnt on the final since i do witness 30x even more which means it will surely wipe out your bankroll even how big it is and this is really the disadvantage on using bot its really better to play manual.
8248  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is happening currently with cryptocurrencies on: May 02, 2017, 04:26:06 PM
Bitcoin is experiencing it era where every four year it has a certain limit if that limit reach the demand would go up and then the price will also go up but when the era ended the bitcoin price will go down again this time we have the era of bitcoin.
And when that era would happen?Considering that the last halving would happen on 2140 as far as i remember which means even on your lifetime you wont witness the existence of bitcoin on those future days.Value do really increase since supply do decrease its already understandable and even there are altcoin they might share in the market but bitcoin would still always on the top.
8249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: May 02, 2017, 02:30:37 PM
You cannot ecpect too much when you put small amount only to invest as the return is not that high and vice versa.
Worth or not as long as you can enjoy it. Dont be a low price hunter. Just enjoy from market speculation if you know what you are doing.

I agree with you perfectly except the "You cannot ecpect too much when you put small amount only to invest as the return is not that high". Dude small investments counts and matters a lot especially if you compound the profits; they normally end up being great investments if you keenly nurture it. A lot of rich folks today started from small investments, Bill gates, the Fedex owner, amongst others who had to invest little money before their investments grew to be this big so I'll never rubbish any investment amount really.
Topic is about investing 0.01btc in gambling sites. For example, in crypto-games total bankroll is something around 1700BTC, so if you invest 0.01 your share will be 0.001%(even less) and you can expect very very low earnings. And you can't compare bill gate's investment with investment in gambling site.

Actually much less than that. It will be around 0.000006%, but still your profit depends on the profit the site you invested in makes.
So, if one day they will be making $10,000,000 per month you'll have your $60.
In that number you will see you will surely make already your word when talking about small investments.You do really gain on positive but considering on the amount it would really feel worthless at all unless if you dont mind on the income that investment then it would be still better than nothing at all.Small investment doesnt make any sense to me coz im too dependent on any investment do i have.
8250  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 02, 2017, 01:55:12 PM
Never tried this site as of yet.
Looking for a new casino to go on and will try this site out now.
Thanks for the opportunity too. Wink
You are on the right path pal since you already decided to play on FJ then for sure experience would really be smooth.You should really try this out and see it for yourself the ambience on playing on FJ. Goodluck and have a nice day.
8251  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC breaks $1400 barrier, altcoins going on the red on: May 01, 2017, 05:30:27 PM
Cant be sure if that price increase of bitcoin breaking or reaching now $1500 makes most altcoin price turns or goes to red. Seeing on the price of bitcoin i guess it will break soon and will be going back again on $1100-$1200.Talking about alts im not worried if they turns to red because it the right spot to buy them again on cheaper price so theres nothing to worry infact we should be happy altcoin traders.
8252  Other / Archival / Re: Do you think that you're addicted to gambling? on: May 01, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
believe it or not, gambling is addictive then taking wine, today or tomorrow you will be addicted to it. most of the people who are engaged in gambling they are very much worried and they want to invest what they have in gambling. so how could you deny that..?
No one rely denies that even though they will say to public that they arent a addict but still they know to themselves that they are but mostly gamblers who are addicted doesnt care at all if they are already spending tons of money on playing gambling as long they satisfy their cravings on playing it doesnt matter at all and on my state i can consider that im not addicted because im just playing occasionally.
8253  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 01, 2017, 02:51:11 PM
so what happened to that user who rolled the 10000 number? was he really that lucky and won the $200 finally (first person to win it?) or was it all a sham.

pinging "snegap" (u=988574) come back and update us buddy.
I rolled 10000 but I didnt get anything this site is unfair.
I have just read back and you showed some screenshots seems legit at all and one thing that im confused that how did you play if you dont have email address? As far as i know you would really need it for you to play since you would really register.If you hit 10000 number and they didnt pay on the said prize then its quiet suspicious.Just keep on follow up and youre hell luck of a guy to hit 10000.

I think it is easy for admin/wetsuit to track his rolls history, if he really hit the 10k numbers then it should recorded on their system. Lets see and wait for admin to check it, if he really hit it then he deserve the prize and should be credited on his account.


Yeah it would really be an easy thing for them to track their players roll history but they are somehow denying the payment/prize on hitting those numbers.Im not really going on one sided because i do really like to know what would admin would say regarding on this matter.The player have shown already some images on their conversations and honestly im not satisfied/convinced.
8254  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 01, 2017, 02:25:14 PM
so what happened to that user who rolled the 10000 number? was he really that lucky and won the $200 finally (first person to win it?) or was it all a sham.

pinging "snegap" (u=988574) come back and update us buddy.
I rolled 10000 but I didnt get anything this site is unfair.
I have just read back and you showed some screenshots seems legit at all and one thing that im confused that how did you play if you dont have email address? As far as i know you would really need it for you to play since you would really register.If you hit 10000 number and they didnt pay on the said prize then its quiet suspicious.Just keep on follow up and youre hell luck of a guy to hit 10000.
8255  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What ROI you getting? How hard is to get 1% ROI per day from trading? on: April 30, 2017, 03:06:02 PM
1% is possible but you should diversify your bitcoin just like what others said here above.Splitting them into purchasing altcoins would make this possible specially on high volatile altcoin you would select but remember to purchase only potential altcoin not shitcoin or else you will surely have a lose of money.Try to study further on trading and get the important fundamentals.Goodluck mate.
8256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: April 30, 2017, 01:02:50 PM
I don't think of there's a easiest way to make profit from gambling because gambling is more risky than were expected and its not appropriate to make job. As what as i see there's so many playing gambling and making it as job lol. But its true and since i expereince many in gambling then i prefred to that there's no easiest way to gain profit in gambling

There's no easy way to earn in gambling. If you want to earn in an easy way then you should be the owner of a gambling site.

Because you can generate money by just sitting at your own while you are monitoring on how your business works.

That's the only way I can think of earning in an easy way.
Its the most easiest way indeed but as a gambling site owner it wont really be easy to achieve that state because for sure you will pass all the trials and hardships before you can taste the feeling of success on your business.We know there are times that problems do rise on each businesses not only on gambling industry but all firms will surely pass on this one but once you overcome it then thats the time on where easy money/profits will pour into your wallet.
8257  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What did you buy for money won? on: April 30, 2017, 10:19:50 AM
If I win a whole lot of money from gambling online I usually would just put that money into another gambling match to see if I can make more of it. It does not matter how much money that I make in a single match because I just like to see if I win the gambling match.
I don't lose that much money from gambling because I play with the money that I earn from previous matches.

the perfect way when doing gambling because a gambling will not be detached from the defeat. Where each defeat that we get is always there in our thinking, and sometimes thought kira responds in a way that's bad enough where it even gives a very bad impact to our lives. Gambling is indeed profitable and enjoyable, but it applies only to those who can understand and understand gambling
 
Exactly, gambling is much enjoyable is we prefered to play for just fun and not for the money, i thought sometimes i play for the money but i doesn't win, and if i just play for fun i can more because i doesn't seems nervous on it. And if i won  i'll buy some important things to my family
It should really be treated that way and should supposed to play like that dont try so hard to earn money on playing gambling because it will surely break off your hopes instead of minding on making money better to enjoy it more and when luck is on your side then you will surely be glad on your winnings and buying something out of your winnings does really give a good feeling but there are gamblers do play their profits again rather than securing on buying something.
8258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lost over 12 btcs gambling on dice on: April 30, 2017, 05:54:41 AM
Don't ask why the house always win, the house is doing business so don't think that you can have against them. You can have chance of winning and if that happens take the advantage and quit for awhile, I feel sorry about your lose but it is still not the end of your life, you can recover it by doing other things or working harder but not with gambling / dice this time.

It is a good suggestion. One should try to recover the money they lost in gambling by other ways not from gambling again. Because it is not so easy to make money from these games unless if you're very lucky for that day. Remember one thing that these games are to enjoy your free time but not to make a quick money so gamble carefully.

Yes! Because if you are about to recover your losses you will end up into the same result. It's either you will lose more or you might recover some but not the whole thing because we know that in gambling that the longer you gamble, chance of losing in the end is always there. I know it's quite hard to move on when you are on that situation.
If you lose your money in gambling its really hard to just ignore that especially with such amount however trying to take it back by playing again is not really a good decision. i agree with you for focusing in other things to recover what you have lost by working harder and not to gamble again.
Chasing loses is not always really a good move because instead of taking it back you will surely lose even more if luck wont be on your side.If OP do know the risk on losing money on playing gambling then he should stop it in the middle of the game or time so that he can able to stop the loses even more which would really result on getting broke.
8259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: April 28, 2017, 08:06:36 AM
Prevention of gambling is a difficult decision, especially if large amount that he lost in gambling. But if he could have discipline to his himself is maybe not coming back to gambling. Addiction to gambling is a difficult thing to go back for it and they know that its hard to stay away from it.
correct, that is a very hard to do. Because its not really easy due to the gambler was already an addicted, even they lose big amount of money. So I think the better way to do with it is self control must be implement unto it, even for a little by little application of giving up.
I agree with you.
If the gambler turns into large bet, he will feel like he has nothing more to lose and he will keep gambling, that's how most of the gambling addicts runes their lives.
Once you turn into a big debt it is a very hard mission to clear yourself out from gambling.

This is a true to life situation because people will surely make gambling as a last resort specially when they are already on big debts because of playing too much gambling.They do think that gambling is the fastest and easiest way they think like this way that should really not be tolerated because instead of playing gambling even more better to seek out for jobs that would repay to your loans or debts.
8260  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where and which part of day do you gamble? on: April 28, 2017, 05:20:47 AM
Any day, any week is how I like to gamble because it’s kind of like working for yourself and once that money rolls through then that feeling is nice.
Gambling when it’s night time doesn’t make me feel that comfortable though because of being distracted by the quietness and the weather is much cooler –certain things tend to invoke me to make weird type of bets. I like to gamble during the day when it’s raining because there’s nothing to do outside.
It always rain on your place?Then its really a good time on playing when you know theres nothing to do outside Grin Quietness do really distract sometimes same as yours i would prefer to play on noisy environment than on a calmer one,i know its weird but this is the best time for me to play specially when theres no work or just my vacant.If i do have money to spent on gambling then anytime i can play anytime i want.
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