Good points. The judge may differ, but in my opinion if TM was banging GZ's head against the pavement he can reasonably consider his life in danger and use deadly force. He could not shoot him for a punch, but who threw the first punch is critical because you can fight back with punches and those things tend to escalate.
Then another matter arises: How to shoot someone if your head is banged upon the pavement? If you are in mortal danger due to a melee fight you shouldnt be able anymore to take a weapon, aim and shoot. So if you are in a melee fight and your life is in mortal danger, then most obviously you will die or beat down your opponent in the very same melee. If your opponent releases you you are no longer in mortal danger or if you finally beat down the opponent you arent in mortal danger anymore either. Thats the point about mortal danger: Either you die or you win automatically. No need to shoot someone in the back (metaphorically). (all IMHO) Finally some logic. Do we know how many shots hit TM, and where they were located? For example, someone who is getting their head banged on the pavement is not going to be able to aim accurately enough to kill on the first shot with a bullet to the head. He could however do some body damage. Yeah, I don't know how many shots or to where? I seriously doubt that any aiming went on. Defensive gunfights are dirty messy affairs, nothing like the sanitized and heroic stuff you see on TV. If there is only one gun involved then you don't have a gunfight, you have a fight over a gun. There is no aiming you just try to point that barrel at any part of the assailant and blow it off. Generally the shock of being shot will take the fight out of an attacker and allow follow up shots. Gun owners serious about defense practice gun retention and firing offhand from the floor. The time to come up with a plan about how you will fight if you have been shot first is not during a gunfight. |
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I shoot a crapton of 7.62x39 and 5.56x45 steel cased wolf. It works just fine.
That's been my experience as well. Even the cheep 7.62X39 does well. I wonder how much of that is the AK? |
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Howdy wise old peer.  Hey Whats up? New Name? or am I just drawing a blank... I remember the quote " the revolution will be monetized" lol. Na, this has been my internet handle since 1993. You probably don't remember me because you added me to your ignore list. lol  Really, I ignored you? doesnt sound like me... Hey bbit! Sorry theymos for wrong post section* I was just kidding. I don't think anyone is ignoring me here, though in real life some are. |
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This has always been about who threw the first punch.
And what about the adequatness of means used? Ok, even IF someone punched someone in the head - does that legitimate for murder? Well, ok, guess in the USA it really IS about who threw the first punch.. but any civilised (in terms of weapon handling etc) culture wouldnt ask that, they would rather ask: Was it appropriate to shoot someone? Good points. The judge may differ, but in my opinion if TM was banging GZ's head against the pavement he can reasonably consider his life in danger and use deadly force. He could not shoot him for a punch, but who threw the first punch is critical because you can fight back with punches and those things tend to escalate. |
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Just wait till they legalize pot. All your hopes, dreams goals...poof!
Speak for yourself! hehe |
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Is it me or bitcoin is getting traction outside the community like never before?
I feel it also man. Over dinner the other night a friend of a friend asked "have you ever heard of bitcoin?" My wife about choked. |
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Howdy wise old peer. Hey Whats up? New Name? or am I just drawing a blank... I remember the quote " the revolution will be monetized" lol. Na, this has been my internet handle since 1993. You probably don't remember me because you added me to your ignore list. lol |
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I think that statement is true. It is not easy to track them back to you. There may be only a few thousand people on Earth who know how.
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Howdy wise old peer. |
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Is walking around at night illegal?
Is following someone illegal?
Is assault illegal?
This has always been about who threw the first punch.
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Ahh, roger that. So this is a unique risk to be addressed.
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A carder can install at any one of your merchants a card swiper and pin pad (presumably without the merchant's knowledge). So the carder will eventually have all the information that the customer has ... card #, expiration and PIN. The carder then creates a magstripe card with that same info and goes shopping at other OpenPay merchants.
What is the protection then from the carder that does this?
Isn't this a risk faced by all types of magnetic cards now? |
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Thanks man! this is great news.
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It was a stupid cause to begin with, we shouldn't blame "banksters". You should be more worried about the government taking away your rights. The guys who occupied wallstreet are just a bunch of socialist hippies.
You differentiate between bankers and the government? Where have you been? lol |
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The only reason Russia (now the imperial kingdom of Putin) cares is because of the port they have in Syria. It is their warm water port and their link to the Mediterranean.
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I could tell when I was on the phone with my ISP that they did not want to enforce these rules either. They kept saying that I could forget about it and that no further action was needed. I was like, "No. You have to apologize and place a not in my record that I was not involved ."
They also repeatedly demanded that I check my log file and give them the MAC:id of any possible visitors. Haha hahaha ah-haha, was all I could say.
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It's a waste of money, time, and energy better spent elsewhere.
+1 ++1 That's my opinion also. It just seems like the effort is way more destructive to society than drugs ever could be. There is also the total hypocrisy of allowing the drugs lawmakers enjoy while clamping down on what they don't understand. If we really cared to help people we would surely make alcohol and tobacco illegal. Or we could recognize that we have two drug problems. 1=The medical problem of addiction and abuse. 2=The criminality associated with drug use. We do almost nothing to help drug addicts. We simply arrest them as a punishment for their medical condition. As for the criminality, most of that comes from it's illegal status. People would not be killing each other over drugs if they were legal. What a waste of needed resources. And who stands to gain? The big drug cartels for one. If we legalized marijuana, for example, the bottom would drop out from the Zetas and the other groups destroying Mexico. They benefit greatly from it's illegal status and their ability to game those laws. |
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Since a few threads lately have gotten off track talking about drug policy i thought I would start a thread for discussing just this topic.
So, are we winning, is it worth fighting, is it even moral to have such a war?
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