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8401  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: March 26, 2017, 06:26:12 AM
Yes, trading is gambling since you take chances with the commodities or currencies market. You can loose everything and gain everything just as in hard core gambling so I will classify it as gambling too.

There is a vast difference between trading and gambling and cannot be treated as same as gambling is totally dependent on luck and no strategy can help you in winning or making profits but in trading if you have a good knowledge about the market and if you have a good strategy then there is always a chance of making decent profits on regular basis.
Trading and gambling differ by the way it's used to make profit. Gambling as said completely depends upon the luck even though we make strategies. One thing that makes trading better is the handful of opportunities that we get to minimize the loss with several business tactics.
But there are gambling games that do need experience but most of the time it does need luck for you to be able to make profits and you are right they have different way on making profit since on trading you can possible maximize your profits depending on how you gonna trade and how will you create your own trading pattern or styles which would give you decent income on it even on long term basis which isnt possible on gambling.
8402  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: March 26, 2017, 06:08:26 AM
When you can play with your profit do it, you don't need to risk your money anymore, if you lose the profit at least you won't lose the initial money you risked before.
But don't go so far, because you can end without profit and profit is our goal when gambling, doesn't make sense to play until the last satoshi and finish without any profit.

if this is what you do then you can only playing with small bets, but for me, i will not play with my profit since its only small money, but i will stick with my base bets. playing with base bet could have bigger chance than only play with our profit, because we still can play and save our profit until its big so we can withdraw and still use our base bet to continue played.
I guess what is important is to have a good amount of bankroll and that entire bankroll of yours should be manage properly. If you play for profit
the more you need to manage it and I'll tell you based on my experience that small bankroll will only frustrate you especially if you have a big goal
of amount to win. A successful gambler should be realistic with his approach, we need money to make money here and therefore we should set what is needed.
We should really be realistic because thinking off small amount of bankroll to gain big profits is somehow impossible to happen unless if you are lucky enough to win constantly basis but as you said having small bankroll would really restrict us on our betting style and just as expected when we do make small bets then expect for small profits too.
8403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: which new altcoins are undervalued right now?.. on: March 24, 2017, 02:35:42 AM
NXS because it's so underrated right now for all the features it offers. And because they are soon to sign a LoI to launch their blockchain in cube sats in space.

yes I have just loaded up on Nexus. forecast is $1 near term and $5 2017-2018. HODL!

Sigh, I crapped myself when the price plunged before and sold 2.8k Nexus. Seems to be doing pretty well atm. What makes it suck more is that I had a lot of faith in it at the time but it just wasn't going up after weeks. I started thinking that "hey, just because something's a good idea doesn't mean people will adopt it... sometimes it's just bad luck". Fast forward to now  Cry On the upside I've made money overall so I can't really complain. Anyway I'm thinking of buying more NXS... gonna have to decide between this and some other coins I'm eyeing.

if i were you i would just buy the dips. i think its not yet too late as there is still a lot of potential upside. i am hoping for X100 bagger or more and just spend the coins slowly if that happens. too bad i dont have that much to invest but it would be good enough for my purposes now. good luck
Knowing the dips of NSX would be hard since we dont really know if that price increase would be the last or not. Buying now on its current price would always comes with a risk and if you do have high hopes on it then its your choice to buy even more on its recent price.
8404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who's your bet in nba finals , GSW or Cavs? on: March 24, 2017, 02:02:46 AM
If i bet, Of course i will bet for Golden state warrior. It's my favorite NBA team, They have Stephen curry and durant which they are good players, I hope my team will get the final, I don't know if Cavs will be in the final, but i bet for GSW to go on to the final and will get the trophy.


Mine too, I watch NBA just because of Golden State Warriors itself, they are such a team who are completely unpredictable in which any player comes out with their own ways and makes themselves win even the most toughest games where they get the best fight from their opponents, Curry and Thompson are the two best players based on whom I can say that GSW are going to win the Finals this time too.
You cant still be sure but i do agree GSW is good but remember the other team which is CAVS is a good team too theres possibilities that these two teams might compete on the finals if they can manage to defeat opposing opponents.There are lots of good teams and we cant just directly focus on just two teams because unexpected things do really happen anytime.
8405  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are dice sites reliable? on: March 24, 2017, 01:12:18 AM
Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.

Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
Yes exactly that is the only way we can actually verify that the gamble we lost was by the fair system. I normally only gamble on a site if it has probably fair mark aa it is trusted and i haven't heard any sort of manipulation done till date.
well most of the well known  dice site are using provably fair system to make sure that their players will trusted them and the business will continue for the benefits of both ends its a practice by successful gambling business which already established for btc players.
Yeah that's one point but I'm not a person who actually likes to gamble as I'm totally sure gambling is just like donating money to someone who already has. Even though i trust the probably fair i just invest in dice sites and try to earn atleast 5-15% profit per month.
no way you can earn 15% profit monthly through casino investment ,
unless of course if the site was shady , it's too good tro be true ,
mostly has less than 5% , but wait i remember there's a profit difficulity too there right?
you might put it on higher risk? but still hard to completely 100% to any online dice site , they can run away anytime who knows.
You cant see any gambling site that do give high returns on monthly basis 15% is exaggerated to be mention since we do all know their returns arent too high IMHO. ROI would be longer than expected depends on how the site is profiting and if it does then its better because you will surely gain positive but remember that this thing happens all the time because there are instances which you will also experience negative profits on a particular month.
8406  Other / Off-topic / Re: PRIMEDICE METHOD TO MAKE 50$ EACh DAY on: March 23, 2017, 02:55:31 PM
First of all, pardon my language, but I think your method is totally bullshit scam, that teamviewer part just proved that.
It is known method of scamming when abuser is infecting victim's machine with malware during teamviewer session.

Anyone who want to buy this method of yours should use escrow and release the funds after 300 days or so.
This is roughly the time needed for person to earn 1.2 BTC using your method (if we are earning about $50 per day).

Still think this is total BS and this thread should be deleted/closed ASAP to avoid meaningless discussion.


He cant wait for that long period of time-300 days escrowed funds and regarding on what happened on a teamviewer its a scammers way to infect victims machine which is really a real talk and do really happen if you are dumb enough cant notice such act.
Nothing on this world could able to milk up a gambling site for longer runs even you have a trick but its just for temporary or wont last long.
8407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are you a bagholder? Which altcoins do you hold? on: March 23, 2017, 02:29:47 PM
Im not a bag holder that holds a lot of alts but i do have some coins which are stored on wallets not small enough though but still consider as decent. I have ETH,XMR, XAUR and some DOGE too but im not expecting too much on those alts thats why i decide to hold up as long as i can and sell off if i see the price is just fine for me to gain profits.

XAUR and Doge are no longer profitable coin.  It is waste of time and money on bagging that two coin.  Only ETH and XMR are the best to hold until the end.  They are the counterpart of bitcoin in my opinion
I already observed that thing too but i wont decide to sell those coins on cheaper prices and i would choose to hold up and forget about it and might someday i would be shocked when price do rise (hopefully Smiley ) but i still didnt expect too much on those coins but as long they are on my posession selling would not be on this time.
8408  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I never made any profits in dice game.. whats is your opinion on: March 23, 2017, 01:43:49 PM
Hi guys i just want to share my experience in gambling which is i am still playing since january but never made any profit with this game.. any other tricks settings and methods are already tried but still now never made any profits..
What you can suggest to me i will still continue to gamble in dice game with other methods or just stop gamble..Huh

It depends upon you if you continue or stop gambling. I suggest to you that you must not depend on dice game only. For me it is a way of killing free time because it is not good in earning any income. Bitcoin is such a very hard to earn and nit just that to get. If you depend only on dice game you will not be progressive and you will not become rich. I suggest to you yo stop dice game and focus on things that is good and have a better and higher amount of earning s than the dice games.
Its not really a wise thing for you to think off on making dice game as an another source of income because you will surely got frustrated when youre expectations would blow up because dice doesnt work like that instead of making fast money you will eventually lose it after all. Its always ideal to make it as a past time rather than treat it as an daily income which is really impossible thing to happen.In playing dice you might win for 1 day but you lose up 5 days or even more and depends on your luck.
8409  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: March 23, 2017, 12:01:55 PM
No money is the pleasure factor I feel happy becausei became richer not cuz I won

Yes, gambling without money is tantamount to playing the regular game, where you just play put the flat face, your face stays flat when you're done, win or lose, because it will be mediocre. Money is a factor of gambling has become fun. Getting money is that preferred by humans naturally.

Well that's basically what gambling is all about. You have to gamble something to acquirr another. It dorsn't necessarily have to be money all the time. Some gamblers bet their properties just to satisfy their wanting for gambling. It's been like that even before humans became this civilized. It's nit gambling anymore if nothing is at stake

Well, if for example you become gamblers to place bets using your property means you've become addicted to gambling acute. It was too far, if your self-control can not be maintained, gradually you can lose a lot of your precious property. how else are you addicted to gambling, not to place a bet using the property or borrow money, it is very risky.
If you do have the property to sell off then you would surely have a big problem and coming into that point is already too far which i do agree on what you have said but the big question is if you have the property to sell on? what if you dont have nothing then you will surely do illegal things and we should not forget even how rich we are money will surely be gone if not being spent wisely.
8410  Economy / Gambling / Re: https://1bitprofit.com on: March 23, 2017, 10:49:59 AM
When i open the site and already read the 99% luck 1% skill then its definitely a copycat of bustabit game which isnt good at all because you are copying others idea and why people would choose this site over bustabit? They wont do such thing and they would definitely stick to bustabit but one thing do got my interest which is the faucet.
8411  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: March 22, 2017, 01:07:37 PM
I think you can give them a short explantion as to why you support bitcoin.

Short explanation isn't going to be enough to show those local business owners why you support bitcoin and on how they are going to benefit from it.

You need to show and explain why they are going to get benefit from it like giving their customers another way of paying their services and goods.

And of course disclose to them the disadvantage of it.
And when you speak or disclose about its disadvantage then most of them or all of those owners will directly neglect or refuse bitcoin but well its a part on explaining it so that they would be aware about bitcoin even more.Local business owners cant really easy adopt bitcoin since its not being regulated by the government and they dont like unstable prices.

I guess they won't since they are open-minded and they know how business works, for sure they know that it has risk and negative impact to the people.

They will simply understand it as long as you can defend that negativity into positive opportunity.
It depends on the approach you will made on how you would able to explain but there are business owners who were close minded persons which they would stand for their own views and beliefs in terms of business and most of them do really like to play safe which means chances of being rejected or neglected about bitcoin would be really high.
8412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you like 0% house edge casino games? on: March 22, 2017, 12:44:56 PM
0% doesn't mean you would have more winning chance on your gambling plays the chances or risk is different but mostly chances are purely random even they claim they have 0% edge but I don't think they will last long for a certain casino because they wont make any profits on its players which means they will go bankrupt easily.
Actually you are wrong because no edge means that we indeed have more chances of winning.
Though that been said no edge does not guarantee anything in particular and the only outcome that is still expected is loss only. I have gambled a lot with players directly and yet I lot, so can't really disagree with you but actually with lower edge chances increases.
Its not actually more chances of winning lets say a house have a ordinary edge of 1% and they offer 0% house edge which means it only adds up 1% on your winning rate when you do play specially on 2x multiplier on dice. 1% chance might add up but it doesnt make big difference at all.
8413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: March 22, 2017, 12:23:28 PM
my main purpose for the gamble is only profit but yet not a big profit Because I have not a better luck . And better idea to make gamble wisely .
If you gamble for profit, it's big mistake. Well, think about it, if you think that someone can make profit from casinos, than why do they exist? Because to make you rich? No man, they are making great profit and that's bad that some people thinks they can make profit from casino, if this would be like that than there won't be any casino. If you win once, it doesn't means that you can beat casino, maybe you won once but you will loose much in result, everyone has one luck.
No, im not agree for fun or profit, you will get same result in gambling. the only make both option have different in our mind is if you choose gambling for profit, you will carefully when gamble and if  you choose for fun, you already enjoy so even though you are get lose in the first bet you will not stress and sometimes you can get back win in other bet.


But we cannot assure to ourselves that we really aftering for fun only in gambling site since im very sure that in every cents we lose the more stress we can get. But i think theirs only one way for us to relieve the stress when losses occur and that is by using some sites faucet to gamble on and im pretty sure that we will not be hurt by that since we only use some free tokens from them. But i truly doesn't understand on why people thinks to get fun on gambling while that game is risky and have more stressful environment.
Its really normal for a human being to feel stress when we do lose money and we cant really avoid that feeling because people do really value money/bitcoin because they know they wont like to lose it even you do say you are just playing gambling just for entertainment.Faucets are good for trying out a site but dont expect too much on it to make good profits on that amount.
8414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Investment Doubt on: March 22, 2017, 11:10:28 AM
At least a month or so.  I would invest in an established casino that's been around for a long time and put your money in for at least a couple of months  before you consider withdrawal.

I've been already investing for almost a year in 3-4 different sites, in a month you can expect from 2% to 5% on average, having higher profit than that or a loss is not likely. This can only be applied to established casinos with big enough bankrolls to be stable. Also I started recently investing in YOLOdice, they allow up to 10x leverage on investments, which I'm using and currently finding it pretty good for relatively small investments.

can sharing which website u invest? ty

i don't know about him but there is a very good topic about investing in gambling site's bankroll here in this board which you can take a look at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1585408.0

it has been going on for a very long time (31 weeks if i am not mistaken) and you can see the records that starter of that topic is making. it is very interesting to follow and see how each of them are performing.

hope it helps you too the same way it helped me.
These scenario cant really be avoided because there are people really likes to create a new thread without trying to use the search bar above which you can use it anytime.This is like the same thread on the link you do give which gives really good responses and active too.
Doubts on losing money on investment cant really be avoided its either you accept the risk or not.
8415  Economy / Gambling / Re: Hack Into BitDice And Get 1BTC! on: March 22, 2017, 10:45:11 AM
If anyone had a way to get into this account, the real question is,
would they just take the 1 Bitcoin, or would they use the exploit to compromise other accounts?
I guess it depends on what color hat they wear.  Wink

Well, you'd still need the account passwords for other accounts in order to compromise them even if you could bypass it. I would think the 1 BTC would be taken if someone was able to.
But did it not get hacked into and that guy stole 38 BTC from the site's wallet?
But that was using the bct talk account password to retrieve access to the casino bank wallet.
So that attempt didn't count am I correct? Or is that totally something different all together with doing something completely illegal?
I think it ended up with the owner paying out those funds out to people who's funds were lost in the hack.
It was all very confusing because it spilled over from an accusation thread against that use and into the campaign thread going back and forth. Embarrassed

That isn't accurate. 38 btc was not stolen from the site's wallet in any hack. You'll need to re-read that accusation thread for more information regarding that but nothing was stolen from the site's wallet.

Ofc it's not accurate! This...HYIP-Ponzi admin/owner that want's back (?) 38BTC, hack somehing but this is not the BitDice account with the 1BTC on it.
He hacked the forum account of the owner of BitDice and still want back money that don't belong to him from the start of his "great" career as a scammer... Roll Eyes
Theres no connection between this challenge and those situation which happen on the past and also theres no need to bump this thread since its already 3 months passed and no one could able to do this challenge on hacking the site. If until now theres no one could able to get on the 1 btc on the account given then im sure security of this website is good enough and could increase more trust regarding on handling funds.
8416  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: March 21, 2017, 12:23:12 PM
I think you can give them a short explantion as to why you support bitcoin.

Short explanation isn't going to be enough to show those local business owners why you support bitcoin and on how they are going to benefit from it.

You need to show and explain why they are going to get benefit from it like giving their customers another way of paying their services and goods.

And of course disclose to them the disadvantage of it.
And when you speak or disclose about its disadvantage then most of them or all of those owners will directly neglect or refuse bitcoin but well its a part on explaining it so that they would be aware about bitcoin even more.Local business owners cant really easy adopt bitcoin since its not being regulated by the government and they dont like unstable prices.
8417  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is it possible for us to hack some gambling sites? on: March 21, 2017, 11:30:29 AM
I have this weird things in my head, when i play gambling games like hacking the website and take all the bitcoin that i bet and their bitcoin they put in the website.. also every time lose i think about this kind of stuff hacking gambling websites is it possible for us? how can we manage to do it? is it really that secure?
In my opinion we can hack but it needed a high level skills to understand the whole programs script in the sites and also we need to find the loophole of the site in this way we can hack .
But in simple words I will say it is impossible to get hack , just think you have hacked the site then you will get only data of the site of the users but you can't direct attack on the bitcoin wallet Because they are using cold storage to store the betted bitcoin .
Here I will suggest you to forget about it hack Because it really a hardwork in that direction whose chances to be successful is 1% out of 100% . Roll Eyes
Chances of hacking a gambling site would really be slim considering on the security of it and you are right attacking directly on the wallet seems to impossible specially on cold wallets you dont have access on it which would really give you a hard time to hacking it better to forget those motives.
We cant underestimate the extraordinary skills of professional hackers and all on this online world can really be hacked if you carelessly exposed off the important informations even on a web wallet but most gambling sites are already aware on this thing thats why they are making their security more strong against those hacking incidents that might happen to the site.
8418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: March 21, 2017, 10:54:12 AM
What I will do if I won in gambling is to invest in trading or buying physical bit[Suspicious link removed]ds like a funded coin. As a usual gambler, I will keep a small amount to use for another set of betting.  Grin

In case of big winning I also like to invest into promising project and keep very small part of money for gambling because I know this gambling is not to get rich in a day and we can lost all money there.
Thats right mate reinves the best portion of your winnigs into another great opportunity like what you have said theres no assurance to keep winning inside gambling activity, the more you invest and make diversion the better result for your earnings.
Diversion of your money is always better when you do play another gambling and seeking for opportunity but this wouldnt work anytime as you expected because there are really times even how many games you would play on the money you diversified you might still lose that all which is common on gambling field and theres nothing to be surprised about.
8419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin bring any country on its knees? on: March 21, 2017, 10:21:36 AM
I guess it will not bring any country down, because not everyone adopt bitcoin, and we still need a lot to this thing to happen, despite the debt rises, the country will not let that things to happen, to let them down. But in future maybe after 10 years, bitcoin will be the only currency acceptable everywhere.
Even on 10 years time bitcoin isnt the only currency would be acceptable anywhere and thats my point of view even the adoption is on the process it cant bring a country to its knees since its already independent even on without bitcoins existence which means they cant rely or see benefits from it specially to government which really dont like on decentralized things like bitcoin.
8420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which Sport Do u Like to Bet? on: March 21, 2017, 09:00:14 AM
For me its the cricket and football in which i am interested and also Betting in them is also interested. In cricket you have a lot of option to bet like first 10 over Runs, toss Win and lots of other things except only winning and losing.

Yes, cricket is favorite sports betting where we can bet from the beginning of the game to the last of the game. Cricket betting completely analyzing game when compared other betting. I won a lot of money through this cricket betting some time it may be difficult to analyze.

For live betting cricket game is good, we will get many choices to place our bet. And the game will change at any point in time. Some games last ball will decide the winner of the match. So this game is very interesting and exciting. I too like cricket game and tennis. Tennis game we can predict easily that is why I like this game.
Any game of our favorites as long as there are live betting it feels really good because we can determine what team are really playing well especially if we are watching it live. With living betting, it's like a stock market where line changes from time to time depending on the score movement, I like to do it with NBA and other basketball league that i know.
NBA is also one of my favorite sports that i bet, And Basketball here in my country, I love betting basketball because you can easily predict which will gonna win on the match. Teams on NBA can be easily classified if they are underdog or super power. But the most thing that i love basketball is the unexplained thrill while they are playing on last quarter and when score are almost tied.
You can actually easily pinpoint which team are strong and arent good enough thats why we do love to bet on basketball but even though we know the stronger teams but winning isnt guaranteed anytime and chances of losing bet is always there because there are situation where weaker teams do win on the end.
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