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8921  Economy / Economics / Re: Chandler Guo : "Bitcoin could reach 1 million dollar" on: November 16, 2016, 12:56:17 PM
“But finally, I tell them, just go back and buy Bitcoin. A lot of people don’t have Bitcoin...Not too much. Only one is enough. If everyone would have just one, the Bitcoin value would go to $1 mln. When Bitcoin becomes $1 mln, the whole world would be crazy and everyone would love to follow and all the other digital currencies would just be the grandson of Bitcoin.”

You can see the video from a couple of days ago here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh_mQl2B6es&feature=youtu.be (0:00 to 2:00 should be enough but you could continue)


Another  insane  speculation on which the  price  is  too unrealistic to consider. As others said  here if that  amount would reach  then we are all dead and  our grand grand sons would able to witness that  event but  i really dont think that  this  things would happen  because  saying $1m/bitcoin is  no joke and  assuming that all people  are already using  it  globally and  would be the mainstream for sure.

I agree, just releasing words without any substance in it.  I would believe if he will say bitcoin will reach 10k USD but 1 million, I doubt it, I can speculate that we are using other cryptocurrency or another cryptocurreny had replaced bitcoin even before it reach half of the value of what the video is saying.

He actually spoke about the 10,000$ too and he said we should reach that before reaching 1 million dollar. His statements aren't crazy at all considering that he is an Entrepreneur and he is one of the biggest miners in China and If you see what he said , It would make sense... If everyone buys BTC then this will be an easy task to achieve.

You do have some points but theres still no guarantee and we just do believe because it's being said by a famous people or whatsoever. One thing here is no one could able to predict precise prices of bitcoin on near future because we are just humans and no one could see on what's ahead speculations might be reach hence bitcoin has do really the potential but reaching $1m price is too unrealistic to believe, if that amount reaches maybe we are all dead on that time.
8922  Economy / Economics / Re: Chandler Guo : "Bitcoin could reach 1 million dollar" on: November 15, 2016, 03:30:45 PM
“But finally, I tell them, just go back and buy Bitcoin. A lot of people don’t have Bitcoin...Not too much. Only one is enough. If everyone would have just one, the Bitcoin value would go to $1 mln. When Bitcoin becomes $1 mln, the whole world would be crazy and everyone would love to follow and all the other digital currencies would just be the grandson of Bitcoin.”

You can see the video from a couple of days ago here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh_mQl2B6es&feature=youtu.be (0:00 to 2:00 should be enough but you could continue)


Another  insane  speculation on which the  price  is  too unrealistic to consider. As others said  here if that  amount would reach  then we are all dead and  our grand grand sons would able to witness that  event but  i really dont think that  this  things would happen  because  saying $1m/bitcoin is  no joke and  assuming that all people  are already using  it  globally and  would be the mainstream for sure.
8923  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: November 15, 2016, 03:14:23 PM
If anybody would be able to answer OP's question, I would definitely do it for hours every day. 1 bitcoin in a month for just 2 hours a day of work and no investment sounds like too good to be true to me. I think that's only possible if you do have a decent day job in a first world country. The best way to at least reach somewhere near that amount is to have an actual job. It's much harder to earn money online than to work in real life.

BTC1 is possible a month for just 2 hours a day but it's not on regular or fixed basis and that 2 hours doesn't mean 2 straight hours but rather 2 hours overall spent in a day. It's possible here in our country as a freelance programmer and web developer. I have a friend of mine who can do that and that BTC1 is not that big and possibility to earn that is possible.

Back then when the bitcoin price is below $500, I can covered that BTC1 a month with my day job salary but now with the increase (around $700) I need at least another month more lol.

1 bitcoin for a month  would be  a piece of  cake  for  doing freelancing works.  Technical  and developing skills really do have  decent  payrates especially when you   have   a  big project to  finish  on. 1btc is  just  small. I could  see some developers  which do earn  almost  2-3btc on a single  project which they could able to  finish on a matter  of  days which is  really amazing but as we all know   that  technical skills is not for everyone. Sad
8924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: What minor exchange would you trust? on: November 15, 2016, 12:56:44 PM
Why we should  use  minor exchanges  since there  are more reputable  ones and  i do  really agree on those people who said that  most of   these  minor  exchanges do shut down  because  of  low  volume and  yes  this  trully   happens and devs  would  surely ran away. Betternot to bother yourself  on  finding or  tending to  put  money or do trades on these  minor exchanges  because  the risk of  lossing  money is  high  compared  on putting  it into  most reputable ones.
8925  Economy / Services / Re: [BetKing] Signature Campaign | Fixed rates | Full Member - Legendary (Open) on: November 15, 2016, 12:14:14 PM
The management of the signature campaign is up to Lutpin.
However I see a lot of people applying and saying they will change their signature after being accepted.

In the OP he says you need to change your signature and then post to apply so I don't think you will be accepted unless you change it first.

I applied but changed back because I saw Full Members were full. And I counted the ones who will change later as well, knowing what you say now I was on time. But ok missed chance here.
Would be nice if the sheet comes online because I see many Full Members and Sr. Members applying while I guess the spots are already fulfilled.

You cant still be sure  ,  no matter  how  many  potential participants  that  applied  chances are random hence Lutpin would really choose  the  best  quality  kind of  poster. Theres  no late or early here  because  Manager will surely check  one by one  to those  who applied.  Even  you are  on the  bottom spot  chances of being selected is  still there.  Cool
8926  Economy / Services / Re: I am paying $50 BTC too everyone who.... on: November 15, 2016, 03:52:18 AM
Got my $50 very quick and easy!
You must be the quickest spammer on the net, only 3min after the OP was posted and you already posted 25 thread or 35 replies  Roll Eyes

People just put no thought into there scams anymore, it a shame

I agree with this, 25 threads/35 replies for  3 mins  is  unbelievable  Grin . Maybe that   guy  is a robot because no  human could  possibly do  that. Red trust  is  deseve for those  two members( OP and  his  Alt for sure.  ) $50 is already a decent amount of  payout  on  a certain  task  but  as  long  you dont  post  proofs  no one    would  really trust   on this thing and  the alt busted  all these  scam attempts.
8927  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: another poonzi biteminer.com or brother of hashocen on: November 14, 2016, 05:21:11 PM
Yes, It's ponzi site!
We need to stay away from those site, They scammed thousand of peoples every years.
Like Hashocean, I personally have scammed for 100$  in this site.
I don't advice people to invest in cloud mining sites.

Hashocean  or  not  i wouldnt  still invest again  on this so called cloud  mining site  because they are  just total scams for me.  This scheme  would continue   to  pop  out everywhere because  there are still people  who  used to  put their  money  on this  schemes as  i  observe  on  recent  post  those  newbie accounts trying to  promote the site  is  paying. I already  know  their  style  on  convincing  people  they  may convince   some  but  not  me. Grin
Finally some one that isn't talking nonsense. You hit it exactly on the right spot.

The only reason cloud mining and other scam sites exist, is because of dumb people pumping their hard earned cash into these sites as they seriously believe they can make profits.

Some people even know they are "investing" money into an obvious scam site. They think that they can walk out with profits when they are pumping money into that site at the very early launch stage.

Even though noobs invest without doing actual research, I feel sorry for them if they lose money due to scams, but that's not the case for people knowingly "investing" in scams. It's their own fault.

Yes, they join this kind of site, because they think they can be lucky to make profit before the site colapses. On social medias there are some people saying to be "HYIP masters","HYIP professionals". They think they can know when it's safe to invest on a Ponzi, HYIP scheme.

There are some fail rules they use to say when it's safe, like: Invest on a very new site, between 0-10 days; Look if the number of members are increasing... But it's as you said, it's their own fault, nothing to complain about it.
I do  hear some  people  who said that they are  profitable on  hyips   because they join  on early stage,  it might  possible though  but   it wont  work anytime because  most  hyips doesnt last long  or shall we say  they last  only  on 2-3 days atleast. Roi cant be achieve on that short time  thats why  most  investors  would really lost  up   their money  especially for those  new  people  who  just  joined in.
8928  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin was made illegal by your government would you still use it? on: November 14, 2016, 04:53:19 PM
I will still use bitcoin, there are regulations to banned some illegal activities in every country but it never can be stopping people to do those things. Actually, in my country already band some sites that consider bad thing, but by using vpn people could visit the site.
Luckily bitcoin is digital currency that bring many advantages for us, so gov won't ever ban bitcoin I think.
Well  it depends on a certain country  on  how  they treat  bitcoin,  if they saw   that  bitcoins  is a  threat for them  then  they  would surely  ban  it. As  you said  people  would really still  use  it no matter   how the government would   restrict   because  there are lots of  ways to access without  being chased, as  long  there are  internet and VPN we  could  access  whatever we want  , just be sure  that they dont catch you.

If they catch   you then you will end  up on  jail and  you will leave  your   family behind. If  government would  banned  bitcoin in your country better not to  force yourself  because  you cant still  use  bitcoin  on  your  place but  you could  possibly cash out  it  on a different  place if you have  a friends  on   other  country on which  bitcoins is  not   banned yet.
8929  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoins and P2P lending on: November 14, 2016, 04:15:23 PM
The only experience i have was a small test i did depositing 0.05BTC to btcjam little over a year ago.

I made (very) small investments into 12 projects.
I allways made sure the borrower had a good rating, i liked the project and the loan wasn't suspicious (suspicious, for example, are people that have repayed 5 BTC in the past, and suddenly try to take a 50 BTC loan).

After a year, i stopped my exeriment with the following statistics:
Net return: -21%
5/12 borrowers defaulted, 1/12 is more than a month late (so in the end, i suppose 50% of the borrowers will have defaulted on their loans).

I've depostited 0.05BTC, and i've withdrawn 0.032792 (using 3 transactions, each transaction requires a fee). Substracting the fee of 0.0003681 I payed when funding my account, i can say:

I have sent 0.05 BTC to btcjam, after a year and after both deposit and withdrawal fees, i have a total return of 0.0324239. So in the end, i've lost both a year of my time and 0.0175761BTC by investing on a p2p lending platform.

Very sad to hear  on  your experience on  btcjam and i could   say  that  it was   totally useless on waiting for  a year   and you  gain negative profits   which is somehow  injustice for  us on  our   part. Id thinking  this  thing also  on the past which  i decided  to  put  up  money  on  btcjam for  this lending  investments  but  i do  some research first  and i found out that this  kind of   investment doesnt  work at all and the risk  is high thats why  i decide not  to proceed.
8930  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NEver keep all your coins on an exchange on: November 14, 2016, 03:52:54 PM
If you use an exchange, only put in it what you want to use for trading. Don't store any coins on an exchange. I made that mistake with cryptsy.

Most of  us here   do learn  already   on past   circumstances  that  happen  in the past  on which  big  exchanges have  been  hacked and   lost all  money  . Most users  there  realized  that  we should  not  really  store all of  our  bitcoins  on exchangers wallet  because  the risk  of  lossing  it  is always there. Making  mistake  once should   not be  followed   by another.
8931  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud mining that real mining? on: November 14, 2016, 03:08:31 PM
I want to know, where I can find best cloud mining that real mining? I tried googling but i only got referral programs.
I wouldnt really  suggest   someone  to  invest on cloud  mining  but   if youre  looking  for it  ,  better  try  hashflare and genesis  mining because   these  cloud  mining sites  do   have real  mining  rigs that  operates. It may be a good  one  but  dont expect too much  and  dont  try  to  invest  on  huge amounts. Just   put  up  money that  you can afford  to  loss. Better  be  cautious .
8932  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Any tips im new in trading on: November 14, 2016, 02:04:36 PM

Even you already know the move of the altcoin you monitor , it will fall down there a chance that it will not  recover the amount that decrease  ,accept that there is always risk, i saw many altcoin that the price going down morethan 20x and now it's hard to recover back,

Yes, it really happens and it is a great risk that we have to anticipate. Some I was forced sell at low price just to convert it back to bitcoin as the devs have already abandoned the coin. Sometimes its a sad case already if the exchanges give a notice of delisting.
Thats the saddest part when you are still trying to hold hoping that the coin can make a rebound but in the other way its been delisted and every investment that you place has been completely burned so its really important to study first before you enter the trading business.

Buying a  sh*tcoin would  really waste of your  money  . Thats the  thing   why trading is  hard   because  there are  lots  of coins out there   to choose  from   and you  must   be  vigilant and  do  research first  before  you  invest into a  coin because  not all will  pump in the future  because  most  of coins  out there  just   pump  once and  dump  forever. To OP, if  you want   to trade  better study first the  most  important things to do in trading.
8933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitCoin 20 Years From Now on: November 14, 2016, 01:17:43 PM
in the future I'm sure bitcoin could be a superior financial payment instruments. use bitcoin will be very big in the next 20 years.

You cant  be still sure off  that  bitcoin  would able to reach that  state on next 20 years as  of  now. Well  theres a  possibility  but    we cant  be still sure of because  no  one could able  to predict   the future  and  into  bitcoin  . If  bitcoin would  last  still on those  years   then  im sure  its price would   be  high  compared as  of today and   the adoption  is already  spread for sure.
8934  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Zendoubler.com is it good to put into it? Or will it just disappear like alot? on: November 14, 2016, 12:19:58 PM
From the  word itself  zendoubler  which  really  means  its an  another  doubler  site  that we usually see  that  pop  outs  every now and then.  This  kind of  investments are  just total scams  because  doubler  sites dont  usually  last for too  long   because they are  total  ponzi which means  they  only pay their  old investor  getting the funds  from their  new  investors, if no  one  already  join their program  then thats the time they  would  ran. So stay away from this.
8935  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Help me about TRADING on: November 14, 2016, 07:38:18 AM
Can anyone help me how to know if the bitcoin price will decrease?
and how to trade bitcoins and earn?  Huh
Because i invest bitcoins in yobit.net but i didn't know how to properly trade bitcoins.


On the  thing  that  you asked for   on which  you need a  help on when  bitcoins price will go down , definitely  no one  owuld really help  you  out  because  every  traders  do have  this  problem and  also  this thing  is  a  normal  thing  on  trading  because  no  one could really predict  on which  way  bitcoins price will move and thats  the thing  which  hardens the  situation. Trading  bitcoin  is just a  basic  buy  low sell high but  there are lots of things to consider  . Better to  study  more before  you  engage  into trading because  you would  lose  money if you  dont  know what you are doing.
8936  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Putting money in lottery is gambling too? on: November 12, 2016, 01:58:47 PM
Yes betting on lottery is gambling too. And one of the worst gambling games, you have very few possibilities to win. With State lottery it seams more legal, but the odds to win are very low. It only depends on luck, there aren't skills to win lottery games.

Its really considered as  a  form of  gambling because  you do risk  your  money  in able to  win  by  buying tickets. 1000  tickets  already considered as  lottery addiction for me same as  other  members said here. YOu are   forcing  yourself  to win the  jackpot. Yes  lottery  is  indeed  legal on a certain country and  you are  right  winning  percentage is  very very  small  which means   you will need  100000%  luck  in able to win.
Wow! 1000 Tickets? You are getting serious in gambling here. I don't think that is a good approach in lottery, you just have to rely on your luck and not to beat their system, for sure you have to understand that our chances in lottery is very slim, hence we need extreme luck to win.
Yeah throwing away 1000 ticket worth of your money is not really advisable dude especially with lottery. Buying tickets in huge quantity is proven to not better your chances of winning. It's really based on luck and entirely luck and i don't think we can do anything on our end to change that.
You are right  guys  even  how  many tickets  would  you  buy  if  luck  dont have  on you  then for sure you are  just   throwing  your  money. I agree   winning  on  lottery  does   have  only a  slim chance  to win  . If your  the  lucky man  even  you  purchase  only 1 ticket if  luck hits  you  , then you would  surely win the  prize. Its  just  like  that.

Absolutely right, 1000  tickets  wont  really  matter though  even  10,000 tickets  if youre  unlucky  it would  really be useless. In fact  lottery  is  the  hardest  gambling game  to  win  for  me.  Imagine  millions of  people  or   thousands will bet to get the  jackpot  and   number combinations  are complex which means  chances  of  winning  is soo  small and  you will need  much  luck  to   get  the jackpot prize.
8937  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you always missed the right time to sell/buy bitcoin? on: November 12, 2016, 12:20:30 PM
Missing the   right  time  to  sell/buy  bitcoin   is  just  normal  especially  when you  are   trading  bitcoin.  Missing  entry points  would  surely happen  because we cant really predict the  price movement of  bitcoin. Thats   the  difficult  on trading    because  of  moving prices.  If we  got  it  already  the techniques  and  proper knowledge  on  buying and selling bitcoin then   we could able  to make  profits with it.
8938  Economy / Auctions / Re: Bitcoin Dice script on: November 12, 2016, 10:00:25 AM
Why  do people  keep  bothering  on this  kind   of  scripts ? Like  dice  scripts?  Theres  no such thing  would  work though for  sure   even  how  good  your script  is  and some  people would  really  intend   to give you a  malware thats  why  we should  not bother  these  scripts. As ive backread  OP  trying to force  to give  him  payments for a free dice  script. lol
8939  Other / Meta / Re: Thanks for selling my data on: November 12, 2016, 07:55:11 AM
Yup. I'm getting all sorts of weirdo bitcoin carding related emails too. So be it. It's clearly from the hack back in the day.

It's a junk email address anyway but it's so offensive that I won't be able to open another of a similar ilk so I'll be rather sad if it has to be retired.

I dont, in fact the only spam I get is from BTC servics that I signed up for and didnt bother to uncheck the "get info by mail" box.

i only got email from blockchain which said to make an investment with them and they said something like make your first investment for 0.5 bitcoin and in the next days, you can get 10 bitcoin.

but i directly remove this email and i don't want to see it anymore.

Actually this  situation  is  very  common  on  which there are  lots  of carding emails and   you really dont  know  whats the  f*ckin   happening.  I do recieve that  kind  of  email from  blockchain   which  directly  puts  up  into  my  inbox and  not  on  the spam  folder it somehow  questions  my mind  if this  legit  one or  not  but  i detected already that  it is  a  scam attempt if  you are  thinking for easy  money  for sure you would  fall  into these kind of traps.
8940  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Someone told me HASHOCEAN is coming back on: November 12, 2016, 05:36:35 AM
They would  surely  comeback  but  not  in  the same  name. They would  surely  pop  out again on a different  name and this  is the reality  on  hyips which they  became scam and gone  and  launch  again  with a new name  on other day.  Thats why   we should  be aware  on   this  kind  of schemes  because these just tota scams  on the end.  Hashocean  would  not comeback  anymore   and  now they are enjoying   the  money  that they stole  from  their  investors.
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