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961  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hitler was right. on: June 14, 2015, 12:02:03 PM
Hitler will be never be considered right for all the wrong things that he has done to the humanity, killing of millions of people will never be considered right, as per the facts that i have heard he was a dictator who passed laws and ordered killings of millions of people who could have lived otherwise.

We should also remember that a vast majority of his killings were fueled by blatant racism against certain ethnic groups, such as the Slavs, Roma, and the Jews. Other monsters such as Mao and Stalin also killed millions of people. But they never targeted anyone based on their ethnicity. Here, Hitler wanted to exterminate whole ethnic groups and repopulate the areas previously inhabited them with "Aryans".

Well, the line is more blurred here. Politics often decided, rather than declared ideals Wink Stalin had hundreds of thousands Germans and Tatars targeted after outbreak of the war, as his secret police saw them as security risk - at the same time Americans were putting ethnic Japanese living in States into concentration camps - for the exactly same reason.

After the war, with the emergence of american backed Israel, again, for security reasons, high profile soviet Jews (by then Politbyro lost virtually all its power and its judeo-clique was broken down by Stalin puppets) were sent enmasse into gulags.

On the other hand, largest synagogue in Berlin kept working and giving service for entire duration of the war. While "aryan" Serbs were choosen for extermination based on pleas of ethnic Croats and the fact of their pro-russian bias. Semitic Arabs were also seen as valuable allies of Reich for their rampant antisemitism and resources  Wink
962  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hitler was right. on: June 14, 2015, 11:54:22 AM
It's not even close to Hitler's concentration camps.

The number given (1,606,748) represents only a small fraction of the people killed by Stalin. A lot of people lost their lives in the purges and famines. According to the British historian Norman Davies, some 50 million people lost their lives during 1924-53 (excluding deaths due to warfare). Some 5 million lost their lives during the famine of 1930–1933 alone, which was a result of Stalin's incompetence.

I dont really have motivation to defend either Stalin or Hitler as decent people, but Norman Davies rampant idiocy makes my brain bleed. Stalin certainly didnt kill THIRD of USSR population, sir.

Also comparing gulags and german Lagers, while popular is complete nonsense. Gulags were basically prison camps with eastern penchant for brutality, their point was to break and resocialize people aswell (sometimes accused on political grounds only) as concetrate cheap labor, NOT to exterminate them.

Famine you are talking about did indeed happen across USSR, but its seeds were already planted well before Stalin ascension to power. Supreme soviet council was then dominated by ethnic Jews and those feared violent counter-revolution by middle class "Kulaks" (basically self-employed artisans and farmers), mostly ethnic Russians, Ukrainians and Germans. Famine was created artifically to destroy this class of people across the entire country. Stalin, while himself not too concerned about human lives, was none the less down to earth person, who understood that internally strong country means also stronger Stalin. For all matter and purposes, he was absolute monarch by late thirties, not madman hellbent on selfdestruction.
963  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Illegal Migrant Crisis in Mediterraean on: June 14, 2015, 11:44:44 AM
Cryptocoiner,

you got it wrong, I am afraid. Bombing Lybia was just final Punkt - instigated by Anglo-French forces. Germans and rest of Euros didnt participate. Bombing of Lybia was supposed to be grand finale of "Arab spring", forceful democratization or rather coercion of sunni countries into the western block. United States, who have the largest responsibility dont take in all those refugees from Ghana, Nigeria or Eritrea - who to my knowledge have NO WAR at all. North african Arabs actually stay home. You are grossly misinformed, sir.

Now, that I got that out of the way, I am downright terrified, that Europe nowadays serves as shield to US sword - this migration included. AFAIK, central and eastern Europe, that participates neither in NATOs agressions nor in colonizations would be much better off as part of Chinese led BRIC block.
964  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: June 13, 2015, 03:17:16 PM
Representatives of DNR and LNR detailed that they consider Crimea to be part of Russia and would also want for their republics to join the Federation.
Meanwhile, Zaharchenko is quoted as saying that if Kiev continues to shirk the dialogue with Donbass, then the Republic will have no alternative than to take Mariupol.
http://svpressa.ru/politic/article/124779/

South-East is burning. Donetsk is again under constant barrages of artillery fire. With the damaged gas pipeline, the reserves in Mariupol can be stretched to 4-7 hours, provided the two factories there (AzovSteel) are shut down.
http://www.kp.ru/online/news/2081159/

And the NATO-trolls have been re-activated here. Something's afoot...

You cant always judge situation on the ground from the ground  Wink just few days ago, US Congress officially distanced itself from what it called as "rampant neonazism" of Ukrainian volunteers, even forbiding US military from providing further help to them. Jats also failed to get more help during his visit to States, meeting only one of Kerry´s attaches and having short plead in front of Congressmen. IMF is also recluctant to offer more black checks to Ukraine and new polish president (catholic conservative) refused to meet with Poroshenko.

Current gunfire could aswell be signal of ever large desperation of Junta.
965  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What titles can we use without getting into trouble with the law? on: June 13, 2015, 03:06:54 PM
Never understood people, who are obssesed with titles before actual knowledge (academy) or feats (aristocracy), that would give some meaning to them. Without either of those, it is nothing more, than a self given nick name.

I agree the titles are silly but if you go by the name of professor or doctor etc you will get more instant respect from the mainstream morons who believe that people using them somehow deserve greater respect by default.

I dont see why titles should be offered out by some central authority either, monopolies suck usually.  Like i said i feel im way more qualified from what i've learnt on the internet then if i had studied a PhD.  

Everything you wrote is perfectly valid, Gox. So your solution would be to ban academic titles?  Wink PhD. are to my knowledge already pretty useless due to basic fact, that virtually anybody can reach this title, in my country (Czech republic), we also have peculiar title "inženýr" meaning literally "engineer", yeah that is official, academic title in my euro country, equivalent to magister (but in technology oriented academies). And you know what is best? With all those local titles (euros are quite obssesed about them) you can take out trash in US or Russia just as good as without them, since neither Russia nor anglo countries recognize these "titles". You still have to prove, that you can back up your BS nickname with actual knowledge and rightfully so.
966  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hitler was right. on: June 13, 2015, 03:01:00 PM
In addition to all the soldiers from the Allied countries that lost lives and all the lost treasure to fight Hitler, Hitler screwed over his own people as millions of them died creating lost generations and millions of women were raped when the war was concluded. There is nothing "right" about any of that.

You are absolutely right. In more ways, than you imagine  Wink Indeed public might not consider Hitler evil for what he did, but for what he couldnt do - that is win the war.

You see, other blood-stained chiefstains of bygone times, like Shaka of Zulus or Genghis of Mongols are venerated today as founders of nations, even cultures. Yet, only practical difference between them and A.H. is - they won. They danced on graves of all their enemies in the end.
967  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fall of the Evil Jews Regime news network on: June 13, 2015, 02:57:46 PM
Really Tom?!

Antisemitism? Really?

I know you are retarded but this is crossing the line!

Well, is exposing identity of some of the world most powerful people also antisemitism? Is truth antisemitic? Interesting, dont you see a problem with such logic?
968  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Teachers In St Louis Say Chaos Reigns... on: June 13, 2015, 02:54:45 PM
The two root causes of this kind of inner city young person problems is the drug war that offers a quick buck w/ violent consequences for males to get themselves involved with and this results in long prison terms or high murder rates, thus these kids don't have responsible dads that will use discipline to help them grow up  into productive individuals. Lastly, welfare programs that subsidize having kids just breeds more of it among those that either aren't ready to have kids or are flat out incompetent humans that shouldn't be having them at all.

Blaming lack of parental involvement when the said missing parent is involved in drug trade and crime - should I have robbed a jewlery store to get money to pay for my terminally ill grandmother and blame the store for not giving into robbery?

Taking what you want goes both ways. It is pathetic to see you trying in vain to mask your cowardice and lack of capability to deal with offenders as fault of 'war on drugs' or 'society'.

AJmax, I think you made better point earlier, when you observed, that where Hispanics (both white and non-white) meet with black Americans - the second ones eventually leave the area. Darwin work in real time.
969  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why ISIS winning in Iraq? on: June 13, 2015, 02:51:52 PM
2nd IS in ISIS stands for 'Iraq and Syria'. No wonder they are focusing on Iraq and Syria only at this time. Once they control Iraq and Syria, things will be different.
ISIS is cancer. They will spread to other areas eventually.

The ISIS is active in a large number of other nations, such as Libya, Yemen, Nigeria, Cameroon, and Afghanistan in addition to Syria and Iraq. But as of now, they have refrained themselves from attacking Turkey, KSA, and Israel.

Thats strange they are not attacking israel. Seems Israel and jews are natural enemies for radical muslims. Well israel is strong for them now, but they definetely will try to destroy Israel after syria and iraq. So Israel should take care.

They are not attacking Israel, because they receive tacit support from Israel. Israel want to replace the Assad regime in Syria at any cost. They have attacked the Syrian army positions inside Syria, which in turn helped the ISIS to advance.

Exactly. ISIS fighters had already encountered both Israeli and Turkish troops near respective borders, result was stand off every time. Only people, who fight ISIS consistently are representatives of Syrias govenment and religious minorities (including Shia muslims), who pretty much face anihilation, if the western backed Islamists win.
970  Economy / Speculation / Re: After corrections, Bitcoin is now ready to go to $1777! on: June 13, 2015, 02:47:56 PM
1000 dollars will be at one time considered cheap, the next financial crisis will be bigger, than the last one and even small fraction of all those virtual dollars would make price of Bitcoin baloon. I am just sceptical, that we will see it before late 2016.
971  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis never ends on: June 13, 2015, 02:45:30 PM
Guys, what is the chance, that have already seen both bottom (160) and bounce (300) and already are in the period of "long silence" as described by MasterLuc?

Null?
972  Other / Politics & Society / Re: what things does Russian really have? on: June 13, 2015, 02:12:10 PM


Indeed, should russia resolve its birth rate problem and get back on track building a legitimate economy that is not solely dependent on resource export, they have almost infinite potential growth.

Siberia is a treasure trove of everything, assuming they can somehow resolve the issue of livability in those regions. The vastness of those regions can only be matched in the world if US merges with Canada in the future and opens up canada's northern regions to inhabitation and resource management.

Russia right now is getting back on its feet after decades of political instability nevermind national depression after USSR. As a western citizen, I do understand that Russians can be belligerent and not easy to get along with - but we must understand that russians in the end are fundamentally concerned with preservation of their people and their state. Many of its ills are not only social and cultural, but also in large part connected to the influx of foreign criminals with direct links to criminal groups in Caucasus, such as Azerbaijani and georgian as well as chechens. Local criminal groups are directly linked to the government, but these foreign groups are rampant and respect no russians.

I do know that there are many russian trolls in these forums, some paid off by the state. If their idea is to vilinize the west with trifling threads such as 'west is gearing up to attack russia', I can guarentee that no western leader is day dreaming about goose step marching down the red square. Western response to russian actions are largely reactive and defensive - why else would a 'imperialistic' power set up military bases around russian border nations and merely wait?

The fundamental idea behind western posture towards russia is one of wariness and mistrust, not out right aggression or violent militarism. We try to contain or other wise hinder russia when it seems they are becoming belligerent and invasive (annexaction of crimea), but the posture is a defensive one, not rape pillage and kill.

Given russian history, it is understandable that they are belligerent towards perceived threats. However, the ongoing rivalry between west and russia is counterproductive to both sides who will in the future increasingly find themselves arrayed against same enemies, on a cultural and racial level. Actually, they already are.

It's time to flip the chess board around and change west-russian relations for the better. No one looks at Russians and think 'oh I see an Asian/Middle Easterner/African/non-white'. Russia must understand that western mentality against russia is primarily defensive and reactive, and also realize (probably already do but foolishly thinks they can take advantage of the west for long) that their chief historical and real enemy lies to the south and east.

Russians have a long proud history of destroying invaders and defending itself against threats. I can respect their unique tenacity and will, but I do believe that it is being leveled in a very counter productive and wrong direction, one that will ultimately leave russia alone and isolated against increasingly violent non-western enemies.

I do hope that in the future we Americans and Russians can come to see eye to eye and sit on the same table, if not as friends or allies, then at least as associates with more common interests than not. Future demands that it be so, because the world will not hesitate to take advantage of west-russian tit for tat infantile wrangling to advance its own racial and cultural goals that are decidedly anti-western and anti-russian.



You make some good point, but also got power dynamics upside down  Wink Repeatedly, russian nations aspired to be accepted by the west, due to shared culture, religion and yes, even race. How have that ended up for Russians?

In 13th century western Crusaders and Poles backstabbed and occupied modern day western Ukraine and Belarus, while the rest of the nation faced genocide from Mongolic Empire.

In 17th century just after finally subduing eastern Nomads, the ruling dynasty in Russia died out, again Westerners attacked from west and north. Poles burned down Moscow.

In 18th century resurgent Russia saw itself as Third Rome (after collapse of Byzantines at the hand of Turks) and protectors of all Christians, educated Russians considered it norm to speak and write in French (as natural successor of latin). Shortly thereafter Moscow was burned down by Napoleon.

In early 20th century basically the same story repeated again, when Germans (whose culture was again adored as opposed to plebean "muzhik" nature of rural Russians) exported Jew-Kalmyk Lenin into war torn country, raping it internally for generations to come.

And I am not even getting into cold war or attempts at dissecting Russia in the nineties from Anglosaxons. As Madeleine Albright (Czech-jewish American), then Secretary of State under Bill Clinton have said: "Russia is way too large to by ruled by single nation." Thats how Westerners treat their partners  Wink

You already saw open, extended hand of Russia and every time you ended up pissing all over it.

Even, as non-Russian I see clearly, that from their viewpoint Chinese are more reliable and honest partners.
973  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bin Laden's porn stash will not be released on: June 13, 2015, 02:00:52 PM
“We are not going to release these materials due to the nature of their contents"

The real reason why they can't be released is the pages are stuck together  Wink

I lol'ed. I think I read that he liked Brazzers some time ago Cheesy

Lets take a bet. 10 bitcoins, that he was into "femdom" porn  Wink and no, I am not just pulling that off out of my a** it would fit his psychological profile.
974  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christopher Lee, Legendary Movie Villain and Horror Icon, Dies at 93 on: June 13, 2015, 01:58:39 PM
Great actor,. He has always seemed so genuinely happy to be part of things, be it new films or meeting his fans. It's a loss to us all.   R.I.P

Rest in peace. I immensely respected the man for pulling off fairly demanding roles even in his eighties  (Star Wars, Lord of the Rings). The guy seemingly couldnt tire himself out.
975  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Illegal Migrant Crisis in Mediterraean on: June 13, 2015, 01:56:08 PM
The Italians just want to keep on living the way they do without anyone spoiling the party, and that's what the migrants are doing.

I was in Italy last week. 11 PM in a small town on a weekday. I was living the restaurant on a warm evening, a quiet street, everything was beautiful, everything was lovely, and then 3 guys with dark skin and dirty clothes came up to the fountain to wash their feet. I am some kind of a migrant myself, having left my country many years ago, so I'm not against migrations but nobody likes to see misery.

Ahahah, well that is normal in Italy, go to naples and see people there do the weirdest shits. Someone might agree with you, but that's not what I mean. Most of those people are just looking to escape the war, and the world is not so small that other countries can't help them. Others are criminals or worse, so there's that too sure

Fabrizio, what is your education level? On motivation of migrants, Bryant already responded for me, but you dont have to fucking NASA employee to recognize that people fleeing warzone wont be (85% of the time) young men of military age as is the case here. You can see for yourself, just get outside.

As to your idea of saving the world, Africa currently has double the population of entire European Union (1.1 billion of people), it will be five times more by 2050 (2.7 billion by UN projections). THEN WHAT? Who will feed and house them?
976  Other / Politics & Society / Re: what things does Russian really have? on: June 12, 2015, 10:01:55 AM
Come on, guys.
You know what I mean.
As you can find lots of things which made in China.
And use lots of things made by USA or service by USA as google.
And Japan's camera……。
I only just want to say, Russian is far from a dominant country。
It's just a Third rate country.
And that why I despise Putin.
  

Hilarious how sheep jumped on your Russia bashing band wagon and then dispersed, right? Meanwhile Russia, China and Iran tightened their military alliance, economic output is at record high and even western countries are being seduced by the idea of joining Chinese development bank (counterpart of NWOs International Monetary Fund) - they are solvent.

Russia by the way has - in spite of jewish oligarchs tantamount efforts to destroy it - still alot to offer besides weapons and resources. It has industrial tradition in heavy machinery, world class aerospace experts and produces about three times as many engineers and technical personell as do western countries. You see, it is country where education still means more, than title in front of your name.

By the way, you personally might not use something with "made in Russia" yourself, but you know who does? NASA does. Everytime NASA needs to send some of its trained chimps into the space, its Russians on the ground doing the job and building the rockets.
977  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Illegal Migrant Crisis in Mediterraean on: June 12, 2015, 09:53:53 AM
This situation is really horrible. These people are so eager to leave destitution and violence and corruption and poverty that they pack themselves into these boats for a chance at a better life.

When you dangle a carrot in front of a starving donkey, what you think it will do? The European Union is literally encouraging these sub Saharan Africans to immigrate, by advertising the generous welfare packages. Why they are not migrating to Israel or Saudi Arabia? These countries are also quite prosperous.

Good question and you almost answered yourself, aswell. In Israel, people who break the law when entering the country get place in work camp/prison. That should still seem good deal for people, who are supposed to be fleeing death (or so we are said), yet these young, healthy african men avoid Israel like a plague.
978  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Illegal Migrant Crisis in Mediterraean on: June 10, 2015, 12:53:19 PM
The only chance we have is to let them die in the sea, don't you get it?

Do you realize that by saving 10 migrants, you are indirectly causing the deaths of 100 more?

It is a chain reaction. If Italy saves, lets say 100,000 Mediterraean migrants and give them refugee status, then another 1 million will try to get the same. And if this one million people are given refugee status, then another 10 million will start their journey from Gambia and Senegal. This is a never-ending process.

Bryant already responded for me.

I still have something to add. I DO BLAME Italians as other western Europeans since they voluntarily keep going on road to hell, now in the process of persuading easterns to join euro Titanic. Fabrizio, you know, that you goverment is doing something counter-productive, even harmful to your countrys future, yet you think about the way to share the problem with others, not about solutions or standing up for yourselves.

Small and poor Hungary can say no, but much larger, much richer Italy already submerged in troubles somehow keeps being submissive (this is also problem of Germany) to imaginary power in Brussels.

Some german priest funnily enough suggested, that since 85% of these "refugees" are young men of military age, european tax payers should pay for their prostitutes to keep them harmless, yet in another german town family of eight was thrown out on street by the administration to free the building for 25 more refugees (as I wrote earlier, towns get more money for "refugees" from tax payers, than their own poor). This is as low, and spineless as it gets.

The way it is now, I am for cancellation of Shengen Treaty and reinstating borders withing Europe. With force if neccessary.
979  Other / Politics & Society / Re: town with 90% black population abolishes its police force on: June 09, 2015, 09:09:59 PM
Of course, then there is Lagos, Nigeria, Africa. Do they have a police force? Don't know, but their population is like 20 million - more than double any city in the States. And they are happy and free. In other words, the blacks don't always do it wrong.

Nigeria is the crime capital of the world. Nigerian criminals are active in 269 out of the 270 countries in the world (the only exception is North Korea). I can't imagine how the residents are being able to survive there, without adequate police force. And I really doubt whether the residents of Lagos are happy and free, as you have claimed. Can anyone be happy, living under these conditions?

Bryant, you actually make interesting point. Counterargument might surprise you. Nigerian people actually rank among happiest in the world on international indexes. This might be puzzling for westerner, but it proves, that subjective feelings like "happiness" or pride are tied more to culture and mentality, than things like "good governance" or "low taxes". My girlfriend (otherwise quite a liberal) also suggested, that happiness is tied to IQ level of the person/people in question, as might be the economic performance.

980  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Illegal Migrant Crisis in Mediterraean on: June 09, 2015, 09:01:08 PM
Yeah it's a mess in Italy we receive like 1000 immigrants every week if not more and we have no mean to feed them, we don't know how to handle the situation and the Europe doesn't help us at all. Entire cities are basically being raided as of now and it's chaos because there are so many policemen used to keep things under control

Well, what kind of help do you need, Fabrizio? WHY did you take them on your soil in the first place?! Even if east Europeans (except for bolshevik Swedes, westerners are tired of all these people already) take in one million of your gifts every year it wont change a damn thing. There 80 million people born into poor families every year in the third world. Can you make the math? Euro upper class is destroying old continent via barely literate (and often islamic) migrants and your country willingly serves them as a gateway.
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