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1781  Economy / Speculation / Re: Copy of the alleged MTGox Crisis draft strategy on: February 25, 2014, 05:54:19 AM
hard to imagine the doc is real

but if assuming it is, do companies on a scale of mtgox do not balance books quarterly or at the very least annually in japan?

Or.. ever? LOL!
1782  Economy / Speculation / Re: If Gox really lost 750K coins on: February 25, 2014, 05:53:18 AM
You have nothing but speculation to suggest otherwise. So your opinion is no more valid than any other.

One is logical, the other is FUD.

Hm?

How on earth would Gox lose 750k coins over the course of a few weeks? And even if it were weeks, they would have hit markets.. awhile ago.

They obviously didnt. It wasnt a hack, it was poor coding + transaction malleability. This has been happening for awhile. And it wont result in a dump (of Goxcoins on to other markets)
Your guess is as good as mine, and it's nothing more than a guess. Smiley

Again, your theory is bullshit that makes no sense, mine (which matches everybody else who has posted here), makes sense.
1783  Economy / Speculation / Re: If Gox really lost 750K coins on: February 25, 2014, 05:51:06 AM
You have nothing but speculation to suggest otherwise. So your opinion is no more valid than any other.

One is logical, the other is FUD.

Hm?

How on earth would Gox lose 750k coins over the course of a few weeks? And even if it were weeks, they would have hit markets.. awhile ago.

They obviously didnt. It wasnt a hack, it was poor coding + transaction malleability. This has been happening for awhile. And it wont result in a dump (of Goxcoins on to other markets)
1784  Economy / Speculation / Re: If Gox really lost 750K coins on: February 25, 2014, 05:42:41 AM
Someone has those coins, they're not lost. They will inevitably hit the market.

As if they havent been on the market the whole time? lol  Roll Eyes
No, they haven't. I don't believe that.

Its not a matter of believing, its a matter of not being an idiot.
1785  Economy / Speculation / Re: If Gox really lost 750K coins on: February 25, 2014, 05:39:37 AM
Someone has those coins, they're not lost. They will inevitably hit the market.

As if they havent been on the market the whole time? lol  Roll Eyes
1786  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 04:56:52 AM
STAMP BREAKS 465

Just an ask wall getting market sold.
1787  Economy / Speculation / Re: Coinbase CONFIRMS MTGOX INSOLVENCY (edit coinbase removed "insolvency" from titl on: February 25, 2014, 04:55:55 AM
"[–]SarahCoinBit 1 point 3 minutes ago
It was a pleasure serving this community..marion and myself just got laid off."

This is Support @ Gox...
fake?

Considering the avalanche of supporting evidence, I think it's likely true.


Thats a pretty big deal, bigger than all the theories and unconfirmed articles floating around.

So, if there is proof they were laid off, that would be nice!

Sure, I understand...

I just quoted her directly from Reddit. I don't have any additional information.
Link..?
1788  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gox haircut coming on: February 25, 2014, 04:53:31 AM
The hair cut in BTC terms will be brutal. If we take the leaked document we have 2000 BTC to cover BTC liabilities over 700000 BTC. Let us not forget that BTC/USD rate could go over 1000 or more in the next few months as this brutal short squeeze unravels. My guess in the neighbourhood of 99.7% to 99.9% or a payout of 1-3 mBTC on the BTC. 

lmao  Cheesy

I think you're a bit crazy. Either people get nothing or they get at least 20%.

Umm, no. Articmine`s theory makes much more sense then your 20% theory.

Where would they come up with 140000 BTC to cover the 20%?


They wouldnt bother with a haircut that large. It just doesnt make any sense. So its either nothing, or something significant. Where do they get it from? Well, RTFA Wink
1789  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gox haircut coming on: February 25, 2014, 04:45:36 AM
The hair cut in BTC terms will be brutal. If we take the leaked document we have 2000 BTC to cover BTC liabilities over 700000 BTC. Let us not forget that BTC/USD rate could go over 1000 or more in the next few months as this brutal short squeeze unravels. My guess in the neighbourhood of 99.7% to 99.9% or a payout of 1-3 mBTC on the BTC. 

lmao  Cheesy

I think you're a bit crazy. Either people get nothing or they get at least 20%.
1790  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 04:44:27 AM
And your point is??? We've.. only seen BB for a week now.

That this guy probably spend ~~100 Bitcoins on buying cheap Gox coins... which are useless now.

Ok, and some people bought at .7. And some people sent USD to gox.

I dont see your point.
1791  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 04:39:31 AM
And your point is??? We've.. only seen BB for a week now.
1792  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 04:37:43 AM
Just look at this:

100.00000000    GOX for    0.29900000   ฿ ea.

I made some big fucking mistaked whilst trading, but that one should be the cherry on the top. Mother of god.

...what?
1793  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 04:31:45 AM
Not surre if this was already posted, but, from: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/1yuuok/daily_discussion_tuesday_february_25_2014_early/cfnzt9i


So here's what has happened for those who can't keep up. I doubt any of this is a pure coincidence given the time frame.

1.) MtGox allegedly lose 750,000 Bitcoins, according to a leaked document in the hands of TwoBitIdiot, a known person within the Bitcoin community.

2.) He then decides to leak the document to the public 1 - 2 hours later confirming this number, and within the document it says they are to rebrand as http://gox.com and lie their way out of this mess.

3.) After the document is leaked, MtGox halts trades immediately (Around 5 minutes after)

4.) At this point, http://gox.com is still a parked domain, and not long after starts to redirect to http://mtgox.com (EDIT: More information on the domain situation from chris45215, which basically confirms that MtGox were indeed planning to relaunch as Gox.com as explained in the leaked document)

5.) After around 30 minutes, Coinbase, Blockchain, Circle and Kraken simultaneously release identical articles titled "Joint Statement Regarding the Insolvency of Mt.Gox" (EDIT: Since then, some of the articles have removed the word "insolvency", but not all of them.)

6.) A further 5 minutes later, http://mtgox.com is taken completely offline.

7.) And now we are here, with not a single word from MtGox.


QFT

One error: The trading shutdown was well over 5 minutes after the leak. And it was almost exactly 9:00PMEST, so, it seemed to be planned, not a panicked shutdown.
1794  Economy / Speculation / Re: Ok, I am taking the risk to buy GOX coin at bitcoinbuilder on: February 25, 2014, 04:29:12 AM
Gox website is completely down. There is no way to even transfer gox coins for the time being

So.. how is BB working?

Also, Gox still "works", just no home, exchange, login.. lol xD

But the site isnt "down"
1795  Economy / Speculation / Re: Maybe the MTGox FIX is coming? SiteDown, TradingDown on: February 25, 2014, 04:25:47 AM
Look on the bright side guys, there is no trading lag!

https://mtgox.com/api/1/generic/order/lag
1796  Economy / Speculation / Re: Coinbase CONFIRMS MTGOX INSOLVENCY on: February 25, 2014, 04:21:33 AM
"[–]SarahCoinBit 1 point 3 minutes ago
It was a pleasure serving this community..marion and myself just got laid off."

This is Support @ Gox...
fake?

Considering the avalanche of supporting evidence, I think it's likely true.


Thats a pretty big deal, bigger than all the theories and unconfirmed articles floating around.

So, if there is proof they were laid off, that would be nice!
1797  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gox haircut coming on: February 25, 2014, 04:20:32 AM
Shave and a haircut, two BTC ... credited at Gox.com for each 8 BTC on Mt.Gox account.

Two bits credited at Gox.com for each USD on account at Mt. Gox.

"We're all in this together ...<slurp>"



Can someone translate this to English for me? Thanks!
1798  Economy / Speculation / Re: Ok, I am taking the risk to buy GOX coin at bitcoinbuilder on: February 25, 2014, 04:17:54 AM
Excellent risk/reward here, I agree.

Im considering sending all my coins I didnt have in Gox to BB
1799  Economy / Speculation / Re: gox offline ? done? on: February 25, 2014, 04:16:48 AM
Make it rain with cheap coins...I got my fiat ready



LOL, so many people must be crying now.

Thats pretty fucked up man!

They accepted fiat all the way to the end. Karpeles and anyone in on this crime should be fucking hanged in town square. White collar criminals, nothing more.

Until there is an official statement, you cant be sure.

The buyout theory is looking likely to me. IDGAF though, I only have a couple coins there.
1800  Economy / Speculation / Re: Coinbase CONFIRMS MTGOX INSOLVENCY on: February 25, 2014, 04:01:21 AM
"[–]SarahCoinBit 1 point 3 minutes ago
It was a pleasure serving this community..marion and myself just got laid off."

This is Support @ Gox...
fake?
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