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921  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2014, 05:25:45 PM
I wonder if this all is due to the new derivatives approved for Bitcoin approved by the CFTC. Basically, a big player takes a bunch of naked CDSs on Bitcoin (about 100 insurance policies per reference base) and crashes it intentionally. If somebody did that it would be a guaranteed massive profit.

I don't think that's it as this is such a new market, but this is an old Wall Street game that has been played with the other commodities. Note that since Wall Street entered, the price has dropped almost $300 (nearly 50%). You are all getting f---ed, you know.

they said they would do it

and here we are.

Who? Proof?

You're saying people are selling the equivalent of goxbux?
922  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2014, 04:21:46 PM
hash rate down 50% means new blocks are going to take twice as long. until dif re-targets...

CRYPTO IS DONE!

panic now.

Looks like a glitch; doesn't show up on sipa.be
923  Economy / Speculation / Re: Last hour I bought 10 BTC (+120 before = 130 total in three days). on: September 19, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
OP, you might wanna erase this topic. People are laughing at you.

I'm sure people laughed at those who bought at $80, $70 and $60 on the way down from $266

924  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2014, 01:53:14 PM
......we heading up now?


This is very overdue. So overdue, in fact, it may just cement the bottom as $380. Tons of people are/have been waiting to buy back since the low 500s. Bid sum just spiked over 1m in an hour.

925  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2014, 01:39:49 PM
... there was a network scale attack I pointed out to Gavin and the other devs after observing namecoin network getting "hung" for months by miners joining and leaving en-masse due to mining incentives and price fluctuations ...

if a well-resourced 'dishonest miner' attacker could build up a significant of quantity of mining power and ramp up hash-rate by bringing on-line an ever-increasing amount of compute, selling all btc the whole way and simultaneously drive price lower over the same period, squeezing out 'honest' miners ... then in a final act take all their mining power off-line during a final dump of price then it would leave the network hanging at very low block solving rate (long confirms) waiting forever for the next retargetting and a low price and take a toll on confidence ... the fix was to allow for a 'special' retargetting on the downside if it hasn't happened after a time-out, not just the set 2016 blocks.



Was this fix put in place?

I've had similar concerns about a "remove hashing power" attack

Would never happen to a big coin like btc: to much power needed. Like 99% attack...
926  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2014, 01:34:51 PM
Ok ok, here is a good bull trap brewing. Target 430?
927  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2014, 11:29:57 PM
http://coinorama.net/

The 6 month chart for bid/ask sums on Stamp doesn't look so great. But I ain't scared.  Wink Cheesy Cheesy

The last time the price was at this level, there were:
BFX/Bitstamp only

16m USD in bids
37k BTC in asks

Today:

13m USD in bids
41k BTC in asks

Pretty bleak imo.

Has BFX ever been audited?

Hell if I know. What I do know is, if I do buy some more, that money/those coins wont sit there for more than a few days. (Fuck you Karpeles)
928  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2014, 11:21:07 PM
http://coinorama.net/

The 6 month chart for bid/ask sums on Stamp doesn't look so great. But I ain't scared.  Wink Cheesy Cheesy

The last time the price was at this level, there were:
BFX/Bitstamp only

16m USD in bids
37k BTC in asks

Today:

13m USD in bids
41k BTC in asks

Pretty bleak imo.
929  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2014, 11:00:42 PM
Wanna see something skarie?

930  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2014, 09:45:30 PM
This is getting really depressing. A perfect case just happened, for a bull trap to form.. and there is barely any panic buying...

Perhaps I should revise my $350 prediction for <$300... at this rate, that might even be optimistic. 

931  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2014, 09:32:40 PM

Someone just bought up all the USD swaps and made a 2000 BTC buy!







Whats that mean? They took loans to buy 2000BTC? So.. an idiot? This might not even materialize in to a real bulltrap?
932  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2014, 09:26:28 PM
see bid side increasing by a shit ton

Sadly its not increasing much at all. The asks have all but totally recovered (2k bought, 1.8k of FRESH ASKS just since that)
933  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2014, 09:18:09 PM
Heres that trap. Target $465. Sell, then resume drop to $350.
934  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2014, 09:15:05 PM
Up!

BOWL TRAEP!~!!11!!
935  Economy / Speculation / Re: Last hour I bought 20 BTC ( + 100 BTC before = 120 total in two days). on: September 18, 2014, 09:07:45 PM
Except I was right all day and not 2x a day.

But you will ignore that.

Inconvenient truth.

I have connections with the whales. I'm not speaking out of my ass.

3 hours ago you mentioned whales will sell. Guess what? That was after the price already took a dive.  Roll Eyes
Come back in a week or in a few days.

How about next time you have magical insider info, you give it before it already happened.

You do know that 12 hours ago I predicted about 10k of market sells and a bottom of ~$400? Yeah, that happened. Who is the prophet now? 

Oh wait, I actually said.. I am a bear and think the price will continue dropping. But, by your logic, I said all of the above.

Big difference.
936  Economy / Speculation / Re: Last hour I bought 20 BTC ( + 100 BTC before = 120 total in two days). on: September 18, 2014, 08:59:19 PM
Except I was right all day and not 2x a day.

But you will ignore that.

Inconvenient truth.

I have connections with the whales. I'm not speaking out of my ass.

3 hours ago you mentioned whales will sell. Guess what? That was after the price already took a dive.  Roll Eyes
937  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2014, 08:46:33 PM
They don't evaporate, rust or rot. Ergo, a store of value. What is wrong with you guys?


To me, biggest fear is something better coming along. There are already better alternative. All bitcoin has going for it is that its the most established. And yet, its still quite small.
938  Economy / Speculation / Re: Last hour I bought 20 BTC ( + 100 BTC before = 120 total in two days). on: September 18, 2014, 08:43:28 PM


gambling with that amount of money is irresponsible
bragging about it is dumb


I lost more than that on Gox.. I think if he can throw that kind of money around, 50BTC isnt that much to him.
Song won't make your dumb choice any smarter. You just lost money like a total fool. And it will only get worse.

Oh quit being an asshole. You dont know the future any better than he does. If he loses, that's unfortunate - but we have yet to see that. Want to come back in 6 months if the price is still not above $450 and insult him? Go ahead. But right now? No.
I know the future, because I know the right people. I told you what will happen, exactly that happened. Today. You can check my post history and how it correlated to price drop. I know when whales are selling. I'm insulting him, because he is a stubborn moron refusing to listen. Oh well, it's his money lost, not mine.
A broken clock is right twice a day.
939  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2014, 08:21:01 PM
This situation Reminds me of the bitcoin news from the future picture. "Price of Bitcoin plummets to $13,780. Is Bitcoin dead?"



This is hilarious.
940  Economy / Speculation / Re: The time to buy is when there's blood in the streets. on: September 18, 2014, 08:18:13 PM
Baron Rothschild, an 18th century British nobleman and member of the Rothschild banking family, is credited with saying that "The time to buy is when there's blood in the streets."

everyone was waiting for the buying opportunity, well there you have it.

the only form of money better than gold in the last 3000 years is on sale at the same time as the entire world uses a paper money system that has never worked in the past,
if you don't see the stars aligning you don't deserve to be rich.

Unfortunately for you, there is not much blood in the streets right now. Most people are still at massive profits at these prices.
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