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on: June 09, 2020, 06:44:45 AM
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I'd say that is partially brushing up on Qualified Immunity and partially brushing up on the fact that when you're sitting in front of a jury, and your lawyer is explaining that you've dedicated your career to public service and talk about all of the good in you (even if you did kill someone) -- the jury will be a bit nicer to you, alongside the judge, as they've been shown to feel pity for a public servant who made a mistake (not to take away from the horrid act done to Floyd just pointing that out) Also - the judges who are going to be setencing you are most likely going to want / need the police unions endorsement when it's election time. Just another great part of our democracy, elected judges, lol. Qualified Immunity btw is something that shields government officials from liability, see here: Qualified immunity is a judicially created doctrine that shields government officials from being held personally liable for constitutional violations—like the right to be free from excessive police force—for money damages under federal law so long as the officials did not violate “clearly established” law. Can read through the link if you want, tad confusing. But a 2020 retuers report summed up how it related to Police Brutality - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-police-immunity-scotus-snapshot/six-takeaways-from-reuters-investigation-of-police-violence-and-qualified-immunity-idUSKBN22K1AM Technically that is true. In reality, qualified immunity is used as almost a total shield from liability for law enforcement. As civil asset forfeiture was originally designed to confiscate proceeds from drug dealers and other criminals, it eventually became a "legal" method of robbing innocent people, much like qualified immunity has become almost a total shield from responsibility for police negligence. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cop broke the windows at Autozone which sparked riots across America
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on: June 08, 2020, 10:17:15 PM
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I will give it to you that the media is using this case to highlight police brutality and police abuse. There are way better case to highlt their points, and Floyd wouldn't have been my preferred choice.
But, the true question is the following: if Floyd was an abiding citizen that died to the hand of the police, would you have supported the current movement aiming to end police brutality? (I am not reffering to the looting, violence and destruction... just the peaceful action of saying enough is enough).
It is unfortunate, that Floyd is being martyrized as a hero, a figure to refer to for the young generation.
Yes he was a felon, yes he was a bad person, but, no, he didn't deserve to die that day.
There are pedophiles, mass murders, serial killers that are better treated than him, waiting for 5 - 10 years for sentencing on the death penalty.
Floyd, got killed for handing over a fake bill (we will never know if it was intentional or not!).
I also believe that better previous policy manslaughter/brutality/murder would have been a better case for exposing the bad cops.
But hey, the internet has decided that this case was the last straw that breaks the camel's back... They aren't just highlighting police brutality, they are amplifying horrible examples of criminals doing dumb shit to intentionally create division over an issue most people agree about. Furthermore they have repeatedly pushed false narratives and hoaxes in order to create racial division and anger over the past 10 years or so, and have done more than the police themselves to create this situation. Additionally these kind of events also happen to white people all the time, but the media never covers those incidents because it doesn't fuel their rage bait and political narratives, creating the false impression that this is only a problem for black people, again creating more racial division. The people creating this uprising don't give a GOOD GOD DAMN about justice for anyone, they are simply creating and using rage for their own monetary and political gains. This is exactly why I don't support any of this current situation, because it is enabling and benefiting the people doing the MOST to create these issues. I think I already answered your question with my previous replies regarding my covering of police brutality in the past. One measure I do support for example is the removal of qualified immunity for police which protects them from being sued. I am sure however that bill will also be loaded up with all kinds of other bullshit I don't support, because that is how these people work. It is never about justice, it is about achieving a means to an end, and fuck the principle of the matter. These people are just tools to be used to obtain their political and financial goals. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cop broke the windows at Autozone which sparked riots across America
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on: June 08, 2020, 07:58:49 PM
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Pathetic non-evidence of "resisting arrest." The other cop is standing there with his hands in his pockets. Doesn't exactly seem like he needed a knee to the neck for 8 minutes well afterward. Even if he was resisting arrest for 8 seconds, that's not an excuse to kill somebody after they fall to the ground later on. You are really straining to protect government overreach here. Whipping out the Hitler comparisons extra early today, are we? [img ]https://i.imgur.com/KsQsUhT.jpg[/img] Tell me, what do you think your trendy hive mind leftard "bootlicker" mantra that gets used against anyone who disagrees with you stems from? This is where you lie and pretend it is not a Nazi reference. Calling everyone a Nazi got so played out and turned you into jokes, so you had to find a new creative allegory to call people Nazis without being so obvious. You want to stop government overreach? Use examples of some one other than violent drug addict felons committing crimes as your poster boys. Its so weird how everyone is not behind pretending victimizers are victims isn't it? Also I noticed you totally avoided responding to the MUCH more serious issue of black on black violence, but that is par for the course for leftards like you. There is no rage bait packed in that issue, no REEECISM to shout about, no one to call boot licker and target with your pre-programmed cognitive dissonance, so why bother? What is important is you get personal satisfaction from LAARPing as a hero, not that it is a bigger problem that needs a solution. Also if people addressed that issue, they might also have to address the fact that there are larger issues within the black community and culture that have nothing to do with racism. Intent is irrelevant in this case. Chauvin is being charged with second degree unintentional murder, which is a step up from unintentional manslaughter, seemingly dependent on the level of "recklessness" involved.
[img width= 500]https://i.imgur.com/4IFi39U.png[/img]
As nobody here is a lawyer (let along a criminal lawyer) -- its not our place to argue either way. I'm sure bootlicking trolls here will make the argument for the lesser charge, but that's to be expected.
Regardless of what Chauvin gets convicted of, Floyd's past or blood contents do not factor in at all here. They're only being discussed to lend credence to the idea that his death was justified. Nobody here is a lawyer, so it is not our place to argue, but of course your argument is valid. You're not even "pointing out" that the victim was a "bad guy." You're simply giving your opinion. I don't consider it reasonably worth sharing, as it has nothing to do with the issue at hand. By giving this opinion you can only be insinuating that maybe he got what he deserved. He didn't deserve it at all.
Back to licking boots for you. It is a fact he was a convicted violent felon. No one is saying he "got what he deserved". They are however saying he is by far not simply an innocent victim of racist circumstance as the media, and retards like you present him to be. He made choices that lead himself down that path. He put HIMSELF into that situation. This is all being portrayed as an innocent man minding his own business being victimized by circumstances beyond his control. This is totally a lie. You don't give a fuck about justice, if you did you would be bringing ACTUAL INNOCENTS harmed by police to the forefront. Instead we find you here regurgitating what the media and hive mind command of you like a social justice parrot bot. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'Trump Designates Antifa "A Terrorist Organization"'
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on: June 08, 2020, 07:30:20 PM
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Did you read any of the words?
Give it a shot. You might learn something. No shame in learning something. I don't give a fuck about your pathetic attempts at diversion. I have been monitoring the activities of ANTIFA for at least the last 5 years. They are in fact a terrorist organization by the legitimate legal definition of the phrase. You think you are being clever here, but what you are unleashing is going to cost you more than you can imagine. Pretty soon your pretend time hero LAARPing fantasy will be more real than you can handle shithead. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: BLM protestors: British antique bronze statue toppled and tossed into harbour
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on: June 08, 2020, 07:27:17 PM
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I'm not sure I would go this far with this sort of line of thinking, though I do have to agree in saying that this steps a bad precedent of lawlessness and that anarchy is the only way to get what you want.
Does this maybe show that the democratic process of having things removed is too slow and should be speed up? Yes. But it doesn't show that vigilantes should go around and destroy things because they think it should be destroyed.
As I said before -- I think it should be taken down too, but the legal means should've been followed to do so. No, it shows that mobs are dangerous and easily used as weapons and they need to be stopped early or else the cost will be unimaginable. |
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on: June 08, 2020, 07:25:45 PM
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...It's totally not a good look when you have peaceful protestors outside of the WH and you teargas / rubber bullet them to take a picture. Maybe the base will like the show of force, but that's not the way to convince independents and democrats to vote for you.
But yeah, we are very far out and things could change quickly. Time will only tell if this time is different for Trump. Yeah everyone knows the way to get your base to vote for you is by encouraging rioting and doing nothing to stop it. Then when the president tries to stop it with The National Guard, you refuse and intentionally allow the rioting to expand and disband the police. Additionally be sure to use the riots as a biological weapon against your constituents, and also excuse that unless of course they voted for Trump, then in that case actual legitimate protesting is bad and kills grandmas. That is how you win hearts and minds. |
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on: June 08, 2020, 07:17:05 PM
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I've already linked this, but I'll do it again and make it a bit easier. Either way - you'll need to be willing to have your mind changed - and I can't do that for you. Hopefully this will encourage you to consider being objective - and if it doesn't (which I expect), hopefully the lurkers will consider it. [img ]https://i.gyazo.com/264128835dc3c9a110121a11fbcba60d.png[/img] [img ]https://i.gyazo.com/c34947471ad0260df733d18673548393.png[/img] [img ]https://i.gyazo.com/f38f5a57ec0f6a0eeba3729953b00bf9.png[/img] It's lots of words. Might take you more than a couple minutes to digest - it's worth it though. Give it a read. https://creatingthefuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Movement-or-Organization-chart-form-07-24-15.pdfJust like all leftist retards, if you don't like facts, simply redefine the words until the facts become irrelevant and you never have to take responsibility for anything! That is what post modernist relativism, critical theory, and Marxism are all about. You can literally organize mobs to murder, beat, burn and loot all you like and call yourself a movement, and suddenly it is ok! |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cop broke the windows at Autozone which sparked riots across America
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on: June 08, 2020, 10:34:31 AM
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The media covers a lot of police killings of innocent people -- it happens all the time: that's the problem.
Regardless of the situation, death by execution is not a fit punishment for doing meth and fentanyl. Nor is it for being a "violent felon."
Again, you said he resisted arrest. When? Nowhere in any of the video footage was he shown to be "resisting arrest."
Keeping sucking on those boots if that's what makes you feel less afraid of the world. It is big and scary out there, after all. Really they don't. They do however cover lots of people engaged in criminal activity that get themselves killed by being stupid and act as if they are totally innocent. No, death is not a fit punishment, however in most of these cases if they weren't engaged in criminal activity or resisting arrest, none of it would have happened to begin with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofp1tcVg1e8Just because people refuse to join your social justice cult doesn't make them all literally Hitler. You have fun with your LAARPing imagining yourself to be a freedom fighter hero fighting injustice though. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cop broke the windows at Autozone which sparked riots across America
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on: June 08, 2020, 10:12:51 AM
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Rationalizing somebody being murdered for passing a fake $20 bill... That's a new low even for this infected colon of the forum.  https://www.insideedition.com/george-floyd-was-a-regular-at-store-that-called-911-and-may-not-have-known-bill-was-possibly-fakeThe Minneapolis corner market where a store clerk called police on a George Floyd over an alleged fake $20 bill before his fatal arrest will no longer call police when they suspect counterfeit money, unless the situation turns violent...
"Everyone that knew George knew him as very friendly, very kind, caring, jovial"...
It's very possible that Floyd may never have known the bill he handed over was fake, according to experts...
What evidence backs your assertion that he was resisting arrest? Or are you just taking the cops' word for it? He was handcuffed when he fell to the ground and then got a knee to the neck -- he wasn't exactly going anywhere. I just have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with anyone who would attempt to justify the behavior of the police in this situation. No one is rationalizing anything but you. So many innocent people killed by police every year, but the media never covers them, and instead picks the violent felons dying doing dumb shit like doing meth and fentanyl and resisting arrest to support because TV and Twatter said so. You are fucking brainless automatons. Furthermore black on black violence kills many multiple times more than police do, but lets all pretend that doesn't exist cause MUH RAYSHISM and BOOTLICKERZ! "Media's 'Racial Injustice' Blind Spot: Over 30 Shot In Another Deadly Chicago Weekend" https://www.zerohedge.com/political/medias-racial-injustice-blind-spot-over-30-shot-another-deadly-chicago-weekend |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cop broke the windows at Autozone which sparked riots across America
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on: June 08, 2020, 12:29:11 AM
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It's reasonable to point out that the victim was, in fact, a bad guy.
But this remains an incident where the bad guy, being arrested, should have been treated with respect. Yes, but it is also very relevant to mention... -He was on dangerous stimulants and CNS depressant drugs (meth +fentanyl) -He did in fact resist arrest -He was a violent convicted felon -He had drugs on him The media conveniently leaves all of these facts out. There are plenty of completely innocent people killed by cops, this is not the case here. That doesn't make it ok, but this is a form of gaslighting and psychological warfare designed to sow division. They always blow the cases of criminals getting hurt doing dumb shit out of proportion and act like they are innocent while totally ignoring actually totally innocent people getting killed. This is specifically designed to destroy the nation by creating division, hatred, unrest, and more violence. IMO the media doing this is far more dangerous than the police ever could be. |
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