^^ I was talking about you, not to you. My reply was clearly to eddie13. Take care.
(Still doesn't realise he derailed the thread by posting a trust cult list here)  This is still WAY off topic. I would report them, but the moderators leave about 95% of my off topic reports unhanded. Everyone needs to clear the fuck out of this thread and make their own if they feel it necessary, unless your discussion is about "Vod is a liar". Regardless of what you think about OGNasty, you are denying him and others a venue to discuss Vod's actions by continuously derailing this thread, which I might point out is Vod's preferred strategy to deal with criticism, that is of course other than leaving negative ratings. |
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I would be very careful taking either zerohedge or rt.com seriously.
zerohedge is a conspiracy theory/pseudo science blog and rt is Russian propaganda. TwittySeal is the human equivalent of the little banner Youtube puts under videos covering any information of consequence to make one last desperate plea to eat the corporate mainstream media's shit some more. He has trouble with anyone who has opinions that don't align with his own speaking. Only sources about the Cornonavirus approved by him are allowed, otherwise he will put a disclaimer under every single post. He is doing his part. Volunteering at hospitals? No, sitting on his ass following people around on the internet wagging his finger digitally. |
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By my count, seven most recent neg ratings sent by OgNasty (including multiple ratings for Vod) are bullshit/retaliatory/personal squabbles.
Everyone has the same count. Each time I see another desperate trust rating from OG, I see it for what it is - his inability to convince anyone else of his demons. :/ I wonder how many retaliatory ratings left by you we could count Vod. |
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"We only want a LITTLE bit of socialism, it will stop there we promise!"
[gets a little bit of socialism]
"WE NEED MORE SOCIALISM!!!"
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Let me summarize what happened for anyone who doesn't bother to read the thread or still doesn't follow after reading. Just before the thread linked above occurred, I was added back to the default trust list. His rating from ABitNut then became visible. StonerStanley PMed me asking for assistance. Hello. You put the ABitNut in your trust list so now my account have a negative trustable feedback from this user who is a liar and who abuse of the function. Then if you want, i'm asking you to delist this person from your trustable list because i'm not an alt account and i have my project to present on the forum so i don't want to appear as untrustable. This is the feedback he gave to me: ABitNut 2014-07-08 Reference This is an alt account, so whoever you're dealing with is hiding. Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience. I then replied in the thread, first asking StonerStanley to remove the retaliatory rating he left, then attempting to contact ABitNut to see if he was willing to reconsider his rating. In the middle of this process, the usual clown car, now seeing I was on the default trust list again, and managed to just resolve a dispute involving several of the members of the Turkish community who they were actively trying to get removed from having any influence in the trust system, organized their usual 3 ring circus in an attempt to derail this mutually restorative solution I was attempting to mediate. They then used the thread as a venue to try to discredit me with fairy tales, fictions, and assumptions carefully crafted to impugn my character completely unrelated to the thread. As a result one or two members then excluded me from their trust lists, specifically citing the accusations made in this thread, thus again removing me from the default trust list, and again making ABitNuts trust rating not visible. At this point StonerStanley got what he wanted, and didn't give a shit that my attempts to help him were being used as a vector of attack against me. He rejected my advice, became very indignant and rude, and then started attacking me himself. At this point, as he was the one asking me for help, and asking for my involvement, I rightfully told him to go fuck himself. He, not having any clue how the trust system worked, assumed he got everything he wanted and was happy to spit in the face of the only person actually trying to help him. That brings us to now, when I am again back on the default trust list, and his negative rating from ABitNut is again visible, and he is upset because I refuse to comply with his demands after the way he acted, and essentially using his own negative ratings against me in a lame attempt to try to force me to remove ABitNut from my trust list. TL;DR: He asked for help. I tried to help. He thought he got what he wanted, talked mad shit, attacked me, I suffered a hit to my own reputation as a result of the cumulative lies and attacks, and I told him to go fuck himself and that he would get no further assistance from me. |
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The USA is about to start confining people to their homes. It will likely be for a month minimum, and up to three. Make preparations if you haven't already.
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"By comparing the available genome sequence data for known coronavirus strains, we can firmly determine that SARS-CoV-2 originated through natural processes,"
Accelerated mutation and selective evolution is still a natural process. Even assuming there was absolutely no human interference with the evolution of this virus whatsoever, this still doesn't mean it is not a bio-weapon. A naturally evolved virus can still be intentionally released and used as a weapon. Nothing I am saying is even remotely debatable, it is fact.
An "accelerated forced mutation process done by raising many generations of the virus in a targeted environment" is in no way a "natural process." Natural selection is a natural process, which is what the article says was likely to be the case. You have zero evidence that it is a "bio-weapon" -- that remains conspiracy-driven nonsense. The article concludes that it is likely a virus that either a. evolved in an animal species through natural selection to be transmitted to a human, or b. transmitted to a human in a non-pathogenic form and evolved to a pathogenic one afterward. You are free to argue against the findings of people who actually know what they are talking about in order to keep pressing your own conspiracy theory, and I am free to point out that it relies on nothing but baseless beliefs and a general misunderstanding of biology. Even if we were to go into the thought process that this was a bio weapon, and to ignore the evidence suggesting the other side of things. Here's where we would get with that. Who is this bio weapon for? China? China was ravagaed by this virus and many people were infected and died in China. Was it Iran? Same thing happened to them. Who would do this that isn't going to be effected by it in some way? I don't know, this is not something you'd, be able to control and just set it upon one person. .... I don't have to ignore anything. That paper is not exclusive of it being a bio-weapon, naturally evolved or not. The critical flaw with your logic is you assume the people responsible would give a fuck about the general population, even if it was their own host nation. |
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While I agree it was likely a bio-weapon, and that study seems to make some very strangely worded conclusions for a scientific paper giving me the distinct impression it serves more political purposes than scientific ones. Even if the article is totally accurate, this is only something that excludes genetic engineering, not an accelerated forced mutation process done by raising many generations of the virus in a targeted environment. This would essentially be mostly indistinguishable from natural evolution.
Sorry to burst your bubble but you don't know more about this issue than the authors of this article, who work for the largest non-profit biomedical research organization in the United States. An "accelerated forced mutation process"? Because you have no idea how little you understand about the issue, you will have no way of understanding why you are so incredibly wrong. "This would essentially be mostly indistinguishable from natural evolution."  First of all, there's an entire section of the article called " Evidence for natural evolution". "These two features of the virus, the mutations in the RBD portion of the spike protein and its distinct backbone, rules out laboratory manipulation as a potential origin for SARS-CoV-2" "They conclude that the virus is the product of natural evolution," "Accelerated forced mutation" is NOT the same thing as "natural evolution." They're not saying "similar to natural evolution," they're saying it is natural evolution. But because you are so very very smart you know better than the people whose jobs it is to study the topic day and night, right? They studied the issue. You did not. That is why I support their conclusion: In one scenario, the virus evolved to its current pathogenic state through natural selection in a non-human host and then jumped to humans. This is how previous coronavirus outbreaks have emerged, with humans contracting the virus after direct exposure to civets (SARS) and camels (MERS)...
In the other proposed scenario, a non-pathogenic version of the virus jumped from an animal host into humans and then evolved to its current pathogenic state within the human population. For instance, some coronaviruses from pangolins, armadillo-like mammals found in Asia and Africa, have an RBD structure very similar to that of SARS-CoV-2... over yours: likely a bio-weapon 1,000x, every day of the week. Oh, but let me guess, they are just political pawns used to facilitate a cover-up. And meanwhile you're completely unbiased and just presenting facts as you see them. Right. From the paper: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm"They conclude that the virus is the product of natural evolution," Goulding adds, "ending any speculation about deliberate genetic engineering." Genetic engineering is not the same thing as forced mutation and selective evolution. They claim to be ruling out genetic engineering. Even assuming this is true, this is not the only way a virus can be manipulated to selectively mutate certain traits in a lab. "By comparing the available genome sequence data for known coronavirus strains, we can firmly determine that SARS-CoV-2 originated through natural processes," Accelerated mutation and selective evolution is still a natural process. Even assuming there was absolutely no human interference with the evolution of this virus whatsoever, this still doesn't mean it is not a bio-weapon. A naturally evolved virus can still be intentionally released and used as a weapon. Nothing I am saying is even remotely debatable, it is fact. |
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[shits out 5000 negative trust ratings]
"occasionally I mess up"
Don't talk about others when you are one of those manipulators and lier who put me on the untrust list for nothing. Behold, the retarded offspring of Lauda's clown car. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233969.0 |
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He gave you negative feedback simply for distrusting him ? I don't know the history between you 2 but kind of agree that it's messed up.
Also what impact does the trust/distrust hold other than being able to see more clearly the people who get tagged by them ? Is there something else that I'm missing ?
He is suddenly bothered because some one in my trust list has given him a negative rating previously, and since I have recently rejoined the default trust list, this is now visible on his account. He doesn't understand how any of this works. You might want to read this thread for further context: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182530.0 |
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I am just posting to confirm I am dead from Coronavirus. If you want to donate to my afterlife, my tip address is in my profile. Also God says hi.
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I got this wonderful PM today. Clearly he is learning from the example being set around here by the clown car. Behold, your retarded manipulative offspring. Hello, since you put me in the untrust list then i gave you a negative feedback and i'll do the same with others accounts asap.
I'll remove it when you'll stop playing like that.
Another thing, i'll give you a bad reputation on my futur cryptocurrency gaming plateform if you continue to lie about me on this forum.
Cordialy.
StonerStanley 2020-03-19 " liar and manipulator" ~StonerStanley ~Virtualis Games |
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Yeah, no. We know the genome of the virus, we know which family it comes from. The rate of mutation is just too big to realistically be random chance. The actions of the chinese clearly show that they know exactly what they are dealing with. And in any case, it doesn't actually matter. Deliberate or accident, it came from China and China must be punished. While I agree it was likely a bio-weapon, and that study seems to make some very strangely worded conclusions for a scientific paper giving me the distinct impression it serves more political purposes than scientific ones. Even if the article is totally accurate, this is only something that excludes genetic engineering, not an accelerated forced mutation process done by raising many generations of the virus in a targeted environment. This would essentially be mostly indistinguishable from natural evolution. Still, we need to chill this type of revenge rhetoric. This could just as easily have been done by a 3rd party in order to try to entrap the US and China into a devastating war. This event fits the bill of an opening salvo in open kinetic warfare, and even if you don't live in the US or China, this isn't something that will end well for anyone if it happens. |
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"A small town in northern Italy has reportedly stopped all new coronavirus infections as part of a successful experiment." What is the name? "Professor Crisanti warned that that for every patient that shows symptoms for COVID-19 there were about 10 who don't." If that is the case immagen the number who already recoved It seems to affect politicians and celebrities a lot more, homeless people in the sewers seem fine. Have they too many bacteria on them that even viruses avoid them? Can you read? Imagine how many people are walking around unknowingly infecting others. |
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I recommend everyone be very careful taking anything from zerohedge seriously. Mostly just conspiracy/pseudo science based click bait. As usual, you show your ignorance and bias by attacking what you think is the source while never actually reviewing anything. The link uses The University of Oxford as a source, but I suppose they publish conspiracy theories too? Get bent. MORE: "A small town in northern Italy has reportedly stopped all new coronavirus infections as part of a successful experiment." https://postnewsd2.blogspot.com/2020/03/a-small-town-in-northern-italy-has.html"Professor Crisanti warned that that for every patient that shows symptoms for COVID-19 there were about 10 who don't." |
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[shits out 5000 negative trust ratings]
"occasionally I mess up"
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So basically you're asking us to distrust all this people simply because they're trusting one guy you have a beef with . I have no connection with either you or Vod , but you asking us to distrust 26 people for your childish agenda convinced me to ~ you. So what? Even if what you are saying is true, are you suggesting he doesn't have a right to ask people to do this? Funny everyone here complaining about this doesn't seem to take issue when similar lists are posted by the other mutual ball washers on the default trust list when they do it. This is just more of the same of trying to turn any action that any of the people outside of the clown car club take regarding the trust list as some kind of manipulation of the system, but when those in the clown car do it, there is nary a peep about it. He is only using the trust system as it was intended, and using his voice while people like you who don't like his choices try to turn it into some kind of crime as if this isn't something others do all the time. The ones objecting here simply would rather he has no voice in the trust system at all. Too bad for you he does.  |
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