Funny, with how much weight they are putting on what Flynn said, there is no actual transcript of what he actually said included. Interesting huh? |
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Will give you some attention later - grown ups are talking now. Thanks for the demonstration of how willfully full of shit you are. You know a lot of what you are saying is not true, so you act all cutesy to avoid having to cite anything and just attempt to topic slide. |
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I think there's a misconception that the reason the world is locking down is to save lives because it's sad when people die. In reality it really is all about the economy. When the death rate increases exponentially long enough from a mystery virus that has no cure or vaccine, it's bad for the economy. The reason the economy is shut down right now, is not simply to save lives - it's to protect the economy.
If we do too little, and the virus ends up being near the worst case scenario, it takes decades to recover economically, or maybe we just don't - especially if other countries do enough.
Pretty much every single argument I've heard that was against the lock down just ignores the worst case scenario and just focuses on how small of a population is actually dying or at risk of dying. Your brain must be as twisted as a funnel cake with all the mental gymnastics you manage to do. |
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My TDS makes me think Trump says whatever he thinks will make him look good (or his opponents look bad) with very little regard for the truth. Even at White House Press briefings during a national crisis.
Jan 22: "we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”
Feb 19: “in April, supposedly, it dies with the hotter weather. And that’s a beautiful date to look forward to.” "We’re going very substantially down, not up."
Feb 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear”
Mar 7: “It’s got the world aflutter, but it’ll work out,”
Mar 11: WHO officially declares pandemic.
Mar 17: “I’ve always known this is a, this is a real, this is a pandemic. I’ve felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic. All you had to do is look at other countries. ... No, I’ve always viewed it as very serious.”
Trump cutoff travel from China in January, and this is probably what he is referring to when he says he was taking it seriously. On Jan 20 and Jan 22, the WHO said there was human to human transmission of the Wuhan virus, however, before that, they were saying this was not the case. I am not sure of the timing of Trump's Jan 22 statement and the WHO statements on the same date. China did not let the US CDC inside Wuhan to get a better understanding of the virus, and as a result, the rest of the world, including Trump had a difficult time gauging the seriousness of the Wuhan virus. The Wuhan virus is not going to be here forever. I can assure you that if Trump loses the election, it will be declared safe to open up the economy the day after the election. Unless the virus mutates enough, once you recover from the Wuhan virus, you are immune from the virus, as is the case for all viruses. (if you get the flu multiple times, this is because you have caught multiple strands of the flu). Trump, like all other politicians, will try to shine everything in a positive light for themselves. I would point out the US's worst mayor encouraged people to visit New York theaters on a March 5 show, and 11 days after the show he encouraged New Yorkers to watch, he described the coronavirus situation as "war-like". Some of the people who got infected from going to the March 5 show had probably not yet started showing symptoms. There are other examples of prominent democrats encouraging people to go out in public in crowded areas around the same time. Don't do his work for him. Make this manipulative piece of shit actually do the work to support his statements so he can eat his words. |
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Thought for a second that you were calling me TecShare and got a bit confused.
I think the end goal for this guy is to be able to get out of this and to say that the FBI was against him the whole time in a biased way, and that he was never wrong at all. Maybe he'll try to clear his name to be able to start up another consulting company (and this time follow the law)
No idea. No idea what the hell is going on here. Give it a few days and the news will tell us some story.....lol.
Na, but Tecshare seems to be buying into the whole 'gotcha' mentality that most of the right wing media is pushing right now. I mean yeah, FBI fucked up. And yeah maybe Flynn will get off bc of it. But treating the guy like a victim because 'they didn't tell me it would be illegal to lie to the fbi about crimes I committed'...really? CONSPIRACY SITES! CONSPIRACY SITES! RIGHT WING MEDIA! SQWAAAAWK! It is pretty pathetic how much you rely on character attacks. If the FBI interviews me and I tell them I ate a ham sandwich at 12:15, and it was really at 12:18, I can be charged with perjury against the FBI. If I tell them I put mustard on it and it was really mayo, that is another perjury charge. This is a well known strategy the FBI uses to railroad people when they have no evidence to support other charges. This was a political prosecution for a process crime. Of course people like you prefer to reject reality and substitute your own as long as it confirms your bias. It amazes me with such tiny nuts how you still have the balls to still try to support this Russia collusion delusion after everything that has come out. |
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Why the fuck would I waste my time researching things
I don't know, you tell me, you're the one demanding sources. Most people with at least a passing interest in US politics have probably seen those claims before but if you haven't and you're interested it takes literally a few seconds to search for it and - bonus - you can research all aspects of the claim since you probably wouldn't trust Twitchy's source anyway. Several of the claims he made as factual are selectively edited, interpretations, or simply untrue.
Excellent. See you can make claims without sources too. Ain't free speech great. I know you know what burden of proof is, but you enjoy yourself doing your best impersonation of a bull rectum. |
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2017..."new" It is also a report from the very people responsible for the crimes. Very reliable.
My bad, I only linked the original report. (I edited it) The Senate intelligence committee (Republican Run) just finished their review of the 2017 intelligence report and turns out it was all good. "We reviewed our crimes, we declare ourselves not guilty! Everyone can go home now. Nothing to see here!" Quoting because of attempts at topic sliding: |
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Been reading a good amount about the massive $2.2 trillion stimulus package. People are praising Congress for getting it done so quickly, as it is pretty crazy they were able to agree on something like this so swiftly. The issue is in what really matters, which is the execution of the bill itself.
The big part of the stimulus package was the Paycheck Protection Loan (PPL) which has been under fire recentley for giving too much freedom to the banks to not be equal in their processing of applications. In simple terms, banks were processing the applications of their wealthier clients first. There's also the issue of big companies receiving the PPL, when small businesses were heavily left behind.
Real shit show. Like I said, 98% pork. More related: "Democrats And Media Are EXPLOITING The Crisis For Political Power, Media PRAISES China Censorship" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlOrYl-MJoU |
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In Jan Trump said the US had experts on the ground working very closely with China and everything was under control.
In Feb Trump said
-China was being transparent and doing a great job handling the virus.
-The virus was a democratic hoax.
-The fed gov was setting up testing centers in store parking lots all over the country
-The virus would weaken when April comes and would disappear like a miracle.
-There were only 14 cases in the county (There were 50 or 60), and soon it would be down to 0.
In March Trump said
- Anyone who wants a test can have a test.
- Private insurance companies agreed to wave all copays for coronavirus treatment. (they didn't)
- All trade with Europe would be suspended. (it wasn't)
- We're going to have a vaccine very soon. (we aren't)
- The FDA approved chloroquine to tread covid-19 (they didn't)
Is that enough or do you need more?
Because it is not my job to do his legwork for him. Why the fuck would I waste my time researching things he should be sourcing himself? He who claims proves. Several of the claims he made as factual are selectively edited, interpretations, or simply untrue. Much like you, he is more interested in "winning" and feeling right than being correct. He is more full of shit than a bull rectum. The only way to hold some one so totally full of shit to account is to force them to make direct sourced positive affirmations of their claims. Anything else is just results in retarded topic sliding, sophistry, and rhetoric. (see above) |
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My TDS makes me think Trump says whatever he thinks will make him look good (or his opponents look bad) with very little regard for the truth. Even at White House Press briefings during a national crisis.
Jan 22: "we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”
Feb 19: “in April, supposedly, it dies with the hotter weather. And that’s a beautiful date to look forward to.” "We’re going very substantially down, not up."
Feb 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear”
Mar 7: “It’s got the world aflutter, but it’ll work out,”
Mar 11: WHO officially declares pandemic.
Mar 17: “I’ve always known this is a, this is a real, this is a pandemic. I’ve felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic. All you had to do is look at other countries. ... No, I’ve always viewed it as very serious.” When he brags about how smart he is...do you believe him?
He said this recently while touring the CDC:
"You know, my uncle was a great person. He was at MIT. He taught at MIT for, I think, like a record number of years. He was a great super genius. Dr. John Trump.
I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, “How do you know so much about this?” Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for President.
But you know what? What they’ve done is very incredible. I understand that whole world. I love that world. I really do. I love that world."
With my TDS it's very clear he really wants people to think that he is so intelligent that he's basically and expert in most things. We've seen him do some version of that quote with all sorts of subjects: cannons on an air craft carrier, foreign relations with NK, Global Pandemics, doesn't matter. And it's not just him saying those things. He will contradict an expert like Faucci or the head of CDC on how viruses work right in front of them while the country watches. Quotes and citations needed. No selective editing, omissions, opinion pieces, Snopes, or paraphrasing please. Do you have problems with reading comprehension, are you too lazy to source your material, or are you intentionally avoiding providing citations and context for what you present? I say a little bit of all three. |
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I understand your views on vaccines. I'm curious though, do you think Bill Gates is genuinely trying to do good and help the world? Or do you think it's all an act and he has some master plan and doesn't really give a shit about the people he 'helps'.
If he wanted to help humanity, he would not have been involved in vaccines, but would have channelled his development funds into other areas. Instead of reducing the world's population, we all need to look for alternative sources of energy and avoid pollution. Do you understand why and how he's 'reducing the population'? That line is being taken out of context like crazy by anti-vax community. Probably not intentionally by most, but you should listen to what he says instead of having someone else explain it to you. Yes, that is always the problem isn't it TwattySqueal. Everyone else just needs to learn more to come around to your way of thinking. It is not that you are incorrect, no, you are just more enlightened than all the plebeians who surround you. Just like Bill Gates! Hey skidmark, do you really think in modern times a man like Bill Gates, if he did have totalitarian and eugenicist tendencies, would be able to get away with just coming right out and saying it explicitly? Also are you aware he had a very close personal relationship with Jefferey Epstein?  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html"Bill Gates addressed his multiple meetings with Jeffrey Epstein: 'I made a mistake in judgment'" https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-addressed-jeffrey-epstein-ties-made-a-mistake-2019-11?"Jeffrey Epstein met with Bill Gates to discuss philanthropy after he was jailed for sex crimes: report" https://nypost.com/2019/08/16/jeffrey-epstein-met-with-bill-gates-to-discuss-philanthropy-after-he-was-jailed-for-sex-crimes-report/Weird he keeps repeating this "mistake" isn't it? "A new MIT report on Jeffrey Epstein raises questions about how much to blame billionaires like Bill Gates" https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/1/10/21060678/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates-reid-hoffman-silicon-valleyMIT? Interesting... they did the quantum dot tattoo research... hmmm "Epstein’s 11th-Hour Executor Says He Won’t Serve for Estate" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-19/epstein-s-11th-hour-executor-is-ex-science-adviser-to-bill-gatesAn immunologist? Interesting... |
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You have been offtopic for five years now in this thread. Questions about my previous jobs have nothing to do with my use of the trust system.
I care little about your opinion above.
On the other hand, I can continue to ask questions about thousands of missing btc in threads based on that subject.
If you have any complaints about my trust ratings, you can continue to leave them here. But as long as the relevant people continue to trust me, who cares a troll thinks? TL:DR: [I have no logical argument to defend my actions so I am not even going to make an attempt. I will instead rely on nepotism to remain free from responsibility for my actions or even attempting to justify them using logic.] <- You |
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Quotes and citations needed. No selective editing, omissions, opinion pieces, Snopes, or paraphrasing please.
None of that would matter. Any quotes or citations will be mislabeled, misconstrued, and misinterpreted, possibly on purpose. Trump Derangement Syndrome is a single-minded rage that obscures rational evaluation of Trump's actions, and focuses on the negative. It forces those who suffer from it to go above and beyond the exaggerations of his comments, so far as to fabricate meaning that bolsters their bias. It is specifically a bias towards bias. One would think that with a pandemic gripping the world, Americans could put aside partisan bickering and see that the President has done a good job. He's certainly not perfect, but who among us is? Maybe you're right. I hope you are actually. It really sucks hearing the president say these things during day after day during the WH Press Briefings during a time like this. It's like a part of me is thinking 'wait, he's the president...this can't be real'...but then it just keeps going. Sometimes I think I see him ramble on for hours of mostly nonsense. Do you know of a cure for TDS? I want to see our president act competent. Can you help me sort the TDS from reality on something? I remember seeing Trump say nice things about China and how they're handling the virus before it got bad, but now I seem him saying it's all Chinas fault for ruining the perfect economy he built and he's going to send them a bill. Which one is the TDS? Or is he even talking about China at all? https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1225728755248828416Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days. Nothing is easy, but he will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone. Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads what will be a very successful operation. We are working closely with China to help! this tweet actually say: China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi! It is almost like things change when more information becomes available. Crazy right? Also you missed a few. No cherry picking. |
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I bet the next to vanish will be Owlcatz, Twitchyseal, Lutpin and myself One can only hope. |
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In Jan Trump said the US had experts on the ground working very closely with China and everything was under control.
In Feb Trump said
-China was being transparent and doing a great job handling the virus.
-The virus was a democratic hoax.
-The fed gov was setting up testing centers in store parking lots all over the country
-The virus would weaken when April comes and would disappear like a miracle.
-There were only 14 cases in the county (There were 50 or 60), and soon it would be down to 0.
In March Trump said
- Anyone who wants a test can have a test.
- Private insurance companies agreed to wave all copays for coronavirus treatment. (they didn't)
- All trade with Europe would be suspended. (it wasn't)
- We're going to have a vaccine very soon. (we aren't)
- The FDA approved chloroquine to tread covid-19 (they didn't)
Is that enough or do you need more? Quotes and citations needed. No selective editing, omissions, opinion pieces, Snopes, or paraphrasing please. |
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Well the dems said the only way they would have a chance in November is if the economy cratered. Some were even openly hoping for it. Looks like they got their wish. The democrat run states are doing their best to crater their local economies with totalitarian restrictions so they can point at Trump while they beg for federal bailouts from years of mismanagement then again blame it in Trump when he doesn't oblige. Pretty fucking disgusting all the people having their two minutes of hate and virtue signalling over the people protesting this while the people they support are burning their own houses down then crying about the big orange meanie that refuses to save them from themselves.
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