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1341  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders is the Frontrunner for the Dems on: March 01, 2020, 02:59:14 PM
No one has a right to the time and resources of others.
1342  Economy / Reputation / Re: More trust system abuse by Lauda on: March 01, 2020, 07:37:22 AM
Of course if you edit the quote down, it is a lot less ambiguous. If you include the entire unedited quote it is not exactly clear. "no and no" is just as easily interpreted as a refusal to respond followed by more of a diatribe. Seems kind of like you are working overtime to find any excuse to point fingers Nutilduhhhh. Almost like you are motivated by your personal feelings for me rather than facts, but that's not you right Nutilduuuh?

Since you answered this question, please quote your answer for clarity, that is unless you are going to take another page from Vod's book and just keep claiming you did while never actually doing it.

Is the rating I left for Vod valid or not? Are the ratings he left for me valid or not?

No and no. Stop using theymos as a crutch when it suits you. He also said "it'd be best to forgive".

Until you, Og, and Vod start seriously working towards deescalation I can't be bothered to care about it anymore. Five minutes of being adults is all it takes. Look at Lauda+Quicksy = . You can do it too, I believe in you, don't let me down.
1343  Other / Meta / Re: VOD should be removed from default trust for systematic abuse of his position on: March 01, 2020, 07:29:35 AM
Seems kind of dishonest leveraging baseless negative ratings to try to get others to remove theirs doesn't it?

I agree with this statement.  If you believe someone deserves negative feed back, and you remove it simply to get them to remove theirs, users in the future will be unaware and more likely to be scammed.

But the act of leaving baseless ratings in the attempt is excusable to you right? Wouldn't want to actually agree with me when you are on a mission to impugn my character in retribution for me harboring political opinions you don't agree with now would you?

It goes both ways.

Including people you've never interacted with simply to try and get yourself on DT, will result in future users will being more likely to be scammed.

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What changed, is that TECHSHARE reached DT1 (strength 0 instead of negative) a few hours ago (https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx).

Yeah, for the last few weeks he has been putting aside his morals and belief structure to get back on DT.   He stopped distrusting everyone and started trusting many others, hoping for retaliatory trust.  It was a good example for Theymos to see just how easily idiots can get on DT right now.

This is correct. TECSHARE has been trying to get reciprocal inclusions for a few months now. Its finally paid off. The DT1s that he has nothing in common with except for reciprocal inclusions are:

WhiteManWhite (Russian local board poster)
Kalemder (Turkish local board poster)
bobita (Turkish local board poster)
Matthias9515 (Turkish local board poster) (left a positive trust for TS on 6/29, was added by TS a month later, during the first week that Matthias was on DT1)
mhanbostanci (Turkish local board poster)

He's never interacted with these users as they all post exclusively on their local boards (except when they make the exception to visit Meta or Reputation to address trust-related issues). I'm going to assume that he doesn't speak enough Russian or Turkish to understand the ratings left by these users and (for the most part) they don't speak enough English to understand his, and the only reason he included them was to gain enough votes to be back out of the negatives on DT. Without them, he would be back at -4.

He also included two other Turkish posters soon after they were added to DT1, PHI1618 and by rallier whom he subsequently dropped (I imagine it was for not getting the reciprocal trust he was hoping for)

He's still waiting for Vispilio to reciprocate, probably unaware that he just fell off DT1 for not having the minimum number of inclusions.

Outside of OP's issue with ABitNut, this is exactly the kind of behavior that should be discouraged in the DT system.

In the end, you're both entitled to your opinion and if you both believe that the feed back you've left if valid, neither of you should remove it.  imo it would actually be kind of unethical to, unless you believe the other has changed their ways.

Except that accusation is totally baseless. You know how much interaction I had with these people how exactly? So because you don't see it in public it simply didn't happen, and you are free to use that assumption to make the further assumption I am doing something harmful or illicit simply based on the fact YOU don't agree with my inclusions? Sure is a pretty long string of baseless accusations and assumptions you need to craft to impugn my character. Additionally, even if you thought my inclusions were bad, that is what exclusions are for. That is not what negative ratings are for.

When I include some one, I am fishing for inclusions. When they add me and I add them later, I am only adding them because they added me. When I exclude some one it is retaliatory. Of course you are all free to use your inclusions and exclusions as you please, but when I do it, it is evidence of malfeasance simply because you don't agree with my choices. Like I said, these accusations are baseless and based on fiction writing, not facts.

Interesting, you managed to use all of this to deflect from my question and avoid responding to it...


Seems kind of dishonest leveraging baseless negative ratings to try to get others to remove theirs doesn't it?

I agree with this statement.  If you believe someone deserves negative feed back, and you remove it simply to get them to remove theirs, users in the future will be unaware and more likely to be scammed.

But the act of leaving baseless ratings in the attempt is excusable to you right? Wouldn't want to actually agree with me when you are on a mission to impugn my character in retribution for me harboring political opinions you don't agree with now would you?

So attempting to extort others into removing trust ratings by using baseless trust ratings is excusable to you? That is not a "goes both ways" kind of argument, it is a one way thing. My rating is not based on opinion, it is based on indisputable documented factual events. His ratings are based on fiction writing and suspicions crafted specifically with the intent of extortion.
1344  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders is the Frontrunner for the Dems on: March 01, 2020, 07:19:08 AM
I've done a bunch of research on different proposals and third party audits of them.  
He was referring to the cost over 10 years.
$30 trillion over 10 years = $3 trillion a year.

That's LESS than current healthcare spending. So your argument is he is going to expand coverage while cutting costs? Cool story bro. Bernouts can't even do simple math.

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U.S. health care spending grew 4.6 percent in 2018, reaching $3.6 trillion or $11,172 per person.

3.6 trillion x 10 years = 36 trillion

36 trillion > 30 trillion

(and that's not from 2018, I believe we're expecting 2019 numbers to go up a couple points)

Yeah... that's what I said. His plan is supposedly less cost, but he is also going to expand coverage. How does that work exactly?
1345  Other / Meta / Re: VOD should be removed from default trust for systematic abuse of his position on: March 01, 2020, 06:52:47 AM
Seems kind of dishonest leveraging baseless negative ratings to try to get others to remove theirs doesn't it?

I agree with this statement.  If you believe someone deserves negative feed back, and you remove it simply to get them to remove theirs, users in the future will be unaware and more likely to be scammed.

But the act of leaving baseless ratings in the attempt is excusable to you right? Wouldn't want to actually agree with me when you are on a mission to impugn my character in retribution for me harboring political opinions you don't agree with now would you?
1346  Economy / Reputation / Re: More trust system abuse by Lauda on: March 01, 2020, 06:48:59 AM
Actually the response was incomplete and ambiguous. "No" as in I refuse to answer? No as in your rating is not valid? No as in his rating is not valid? That was not an answer. There is no "gotcha" games, simply asking Suchmoon to clearly define their position, and pointing out that they are in fact supporting a trust system abuser based on their own words.

Only a fool or someone incredibly dishonest would not consider "no" to be an answer to a "yes" or "no" question. So which one are you? Because you are definitely one or the other, if not both.

I know you have trouble with reading comprehension, but my explanation above is very self explanatory why the answer was ambiguous.
1347  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders is the Frontrunner for the Dems on: March 01, 2020, 06:44:56 AM
I've done a bunch of research on different proposals and third party audits of them.  
He was referring to the cost over 10 years.
$30 trillion over 10 years = $3 trillion a year.

That's LESS than current healthcare spending. So your argument is he is going to expand coverage while cutting costs? Cool story bro. Bernouts can't even do simple math.
1348  Other / Meta / Re: VOD should be removed from default trust for systematic abuse of his position on: March 01, 2020, 06:37:44 AM
from my interpretation, neither persons were lead into a scam, or scammed out of money or goods.....  sooo...  that's my insight.

So you think doxing users and reporting them to the IRS is not a valid reason to rate some one? Theymos himself said it was a valid reason to rate him negatively.


My feedback for Techy is purposely the exact same as his feedback towards me. 

Each time he complains he is being a hypocrite.   Wink

I didn't dox anyone or report them to the IRS in revenge Vod. The fact that you did this is not disputed. You however have made zero substantiations about your claims against me in your ratings. This is a transparent attempt to extort me into removing your rating, Suchmoon even suggested I should remove the valid rating in order to convince you to remove yours. Seems kind of dishonest leveraging baseless negative ratings to try to get others to remove theirs doesn't it?
1349  Economy / Reputation / Re: More trust system abuse by Lauda on: March 01, 2020, 06:30:44 AM
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Thank you for finally answering my questions directly.

Idiot. Your questions were directly answered days ago:

Is the rating I left for Vod valid or not? Are the ratings he left for me valid or not?

No and no.


You have passed the threshold from being subjectively to objectively a tool. You did this in order to play your stupid game of "gotcha," which you already lost.

I don't understand why anybody would conduct business with you knowing they run the risk of enduring your hard-headed stupidity if even the smallest nuance of a transaction should go awry, or even be debatable.

Actually the response was incomplete and ambiguous. "No" as in I refuse to answer? No as in your rating is not valid? No as in his rating is not valid? That was not an answer. There is no "gotcha" games, simply asking Suchmoon to clearly define their position, and pointing out that they are in fact supporting a trust system abuser based on their own words.

I do trades with people all the time, and I make sure each of my customers is happy, and always make sure I meet all of the obligations I agreed to. In between the abusive trust system ratings in attempt to silence criticism, you will find multiple pages of happy traders, but I am sure your little character impugning attacks are more convincing. Keep tryharding Nutilduuuuh. Maybe you can make up some more stories for tomorrow.
1350  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders is the Frontrunner for the Dems on: March 01, 2020, 06:05:48 AM
I've seen estimates from 1.75-3.5 trillion.

Only number you got is '100% tax rates!!!', huh?


Bernie said "$30 trillion just for medicare for all" in that video you didn't bother watching. Which is it? I suppose you know more about his platform than he does?
1351  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the Corona Virus A Bioweapon? on: March 01, 2020, 06:02:20 AM
...........
HIV weakens the immune system so people need antibiotics to protect them from other viruses
these antibiotics dont cure HIV or help HIV. they re used to help prevent people get other flu's
 

Bullocks, injecting Anti-biotics, aka against living organisms = death does not protect from anything it kills bacteria, fungus....
It does so very effective including the good bacteria which the body needs.

It can not kill a virus as it is not alive to start with. Viruses can not reproduce and need a host to make more of them.
Once host is infected it will stay with the host until the temperature reaches 30°C / 86°F, outliving the host.
Once the immune overpowers it, it keeps it under control, seduces it. Some viruses are crafty and escape easy, herpes reappearances are common.

TIL viruses can be seductive.
1352  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders is the Frontrunner for the Dems on: March 01, 2020, 02:54:24 AM
I'm genuinely curious how much you think his plan would cost.

Ask Bernie Sanders. He doesn't seem to know himself when pressed on the issue of the cost for all of his plans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h7-mIhcZJY
1353  Economy / Reputation / Re: More trust system abuse by Lauda on: March 01, 2020, 02:28:04 AM
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Thank you for finally answering my questions directly. I will reply in the appropriate thread.

1354  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders is the Frontrunner for the Dems on: March 01, 2020, 01:18:00 AM
If Bernie even gets the healthcare plan he is advocating for, a 100% tax rate won't cover it. Feel the Bern. Bern it all down.

Total gross annual income for Americans is ~18 trillion
Are you saying his healthcare plan would cost more than that?

Are you saying all taxes will go to healthcare? I said a tax rate of 100%, not the entire tax budget going to healthcare. Nice deceptive illogical retort.
1355  Economy / Reputation / Re: More trust system abuse by Lauda on: March 01, 2020, 01:11:07 AM
Yep, can't have anyone asking valid questions. That needs to be censored, for the good of the forum of course, and most certainly not to serve personal interests. Feel free to finally answer here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915823.msg53938213#msg53938213

I expect you not to though because you prefer deflection rather than answering a simple question. After all, if you answered the question clearly and directly, people might see the conflict in your logic in supporting trust system abusers now might they?

Fix the link, it points to a wall of quotes that seems to be mistakenly posted in a Vod thread instead of one of those moderator conspiracy threads.

Nope, it leads directly to two very simple questions you refuse to answer and continuously deflect from in order to avoid admitting your support of trust system abusers via inclusion in your trust list.
1356  Economy / Reputation / Re: by rallier on: February 29, 2020, 11:32:52 PM
Someone excluding you means they don't think your judgement is good or you are excluded for some other reasons.

Reminds me of politicians writing The P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act

"Public Law 107-56
107th Congress

                                 An Act

To deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around the world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and for other purposes."

I wonder what those "other reasons" could be. It could literally be anything.
1357  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders is the Frontrunner for the Dems on: February 29, 2020, 11:18:18 PM
Sanders is no Trump. And he is almost only one who can defeat Trump. I like that he is seeking some changes. The system needs to be reformed. That's why Sanders is widely supported.
His changes are way too radical. It's going to be a tough pill to swallow for me to vote for this guy. In order to be a loyal Democrat, I'm just going to have to tell myself that only watered down versions of his proposals have a chance to be passed by Congress, even if the Democrats somehow manage to control both the Senate and the House. However, I don't see how this guy is going to go on to win. Perhaps loyal moderate Democrats such as myself are willing to swallow the pill, but I think many just won't vote. I also can't see many moderate independents or Republican "Never Trumpers" voting for him.
My biggest problem with Bernie is if his proposals actually get passed into law, in the end, the Middle class is going to pay. I really can't see the top 1 % paying more taxes and that not translating into them cutting expenses by laying people off or passing off the loss in higher prices. Also, since the fat cats will be investing less in the stock market, my 401K plan isn't going to do so well, either.

If Bernie even gets the healthcare plan he is advocating for, a 100% tax rate won't cover it. Feel the Bern. Bern it all down.
1358  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: February 29, 2020, 11:15:32 PM
Wondering how we would be better off with a change to a D president under a pandemic outbreak..
They would probably just spend a rediculous amount of money and not accomplish anything..

Trump asks for a couple billion to fight the china virus and the left is all "No! You need 3X that much!"..

Maybe it would work for them like it did for Magic Johnson...


1359  Other / Meta / Re: Request: add deleted msgID in modlog on: February 29, 2020, 11:01:22 PM
I agree, this would be a very useful feature. It creates  a lot of confusion when a post does not contain a direct quote, there is no way to tell exactly which thread it came from. Once again, this reduces the feedback mechanisms for users, leaving them with EVEN LESS of a clue what they did wrong in order to modify their behavior to comply.
1360  Economy / Reputation / Re: More trust system abuse by Lauda on: February 29, 2020, 10:55:21 PM
^^ Dude.... do you just blindly type shit without reading and processing anything? Roll Eyes

He's just blind to the swaths of evidence that objectively prove he's a moron.

TECSHARE (or colluding conspiring moderators) deleted the post so it now looks like you two are calling me a blind moron...

Unless this was your intent, in which case I apologize, well done Grin


Yep, can't have anyone asking valid questions. That needs to be censored, for the good of the forum of course, and most certainly not to serve personal interests. Feel free to finally answer here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915823.msg53938213#msg53938213

I expect you not to though because you prefer deflection rather than answering a simple question. After all, if you answered the question clearly and directly, people might see the conflict in your logic in supporting trust system abusers now might they?

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