So people who already worked 3 months this year will not owe taxes on that income?
Some won't. Probably millions of people won't. It depends on a lot of factors. Great then. Thanks for validating my point that it will help some, but not all people, and is not an invention of my imagination. |
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Debate is easy when you just invent things and use your imagination!
I can see that. People who just now lost their jobs will still owe taxes later on what they already earned.
So people who already worked 3 months this year will not owe taxes on that income? Cool story. This situation is fucked no matter how you cut it. Destroying future economic prospects for maybe short term gain is little more than pawning off the future of these people for 30% of its value to give them $5 today. Life is hard. Disasters are hard. Solutions that cause more problems than they solve aren't solutions. They are economic warfare on this nation sold to dimwits like you who think feelings = facts. |
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The premise you support of free cash handouts, that "solution".
You still haven't explained how out of work haberdashers are effected by your plan. As a result of this single area of focus being unaddressed, all other logic is null and void.
Ok then, I take it you made up the part about unemployed people owing taxes later. Sad. I take it then you make a habit of raping clowns because you didn't answer my question about haberdashers. Debate is easy when you just invent things and use your imagination! |
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How does your solution help out of work haberdashers? It doesn't? Well then clearly since it doesn't include everyone it is not worth doing!
Perhaps because you are more interested into turning this into a self serving political device rather than examining the situation realistically.
What's "my solution"? You still haven't explained how out-of-work people would owe taxes later. The premise you support of free cash handouts, that "solution". You still haven't explained how out of work haberdashers are effected by your plan. As a result of this single area of focus being unaddressed, all other logic is null and void. |
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And he probably paid more than you hold total in your wallet. I am not going to get into specifics for privacy sake, but getting a hold of all of these was not cheap or easy.
I'd bet it was both cheap and easy. Not like he had to leave his house and scour the countryside, there was a digital trail to each buyer and Bitcoin wasn't always expensive. Spoken like a true user who missed the bus. |
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People who just now lost their jobs will still owe taxes later on what they already earned.
Most employees have their income tax withheld by the employer. Losing a job may put them in a lower tax bracket and make them eligible for a tax refund, not make them owe taxes later. And clowns MIGHT fly out of your ass. I guess we should put more taxes on circuses just to be sure. Solid argument, but how does that make people who lost jobs owe taxes later? But suspending all income tax would mean giving the bottom 50% of the country 3% of the benefits.
Didn't we already have a massive tax cut a year or two ago? I wonder what happened to it and why didn't it save us from this catastrophe. How does your solution help out of work haberdashers? It doesn't? Well then clearly since it doesn't include everyone it is not worth doing! Perhaps because you are more interested into turning this into a self serving political device rather than examining the situation realistically. |
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This whole CCP virus scenario is clearly the opening salvo in a open kinetic war between China and the USA. The economic, proxy, and shadow war phase of this conflict has been very active for many years. History shows open warfare comes next. A biological attack is a likely opening salvo of an open kinetic war. This has been a long time coming. I would say I look forward to all the shit talking that will be proven wrong in coming years, but pointing and laughing at how wrong you were when we are at war will be no consolation.
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It's a shit situation for sure.
Shutting down all non-essential businesses and telling people they can't leave their home without helping people who were living month to month till we figure out the global pandemic sounds great... until millions of people lose their homes and go bankrupt and the economy collapses.
Telling people to keep going to work and allowing all businesses to remain open during a global pandemic sounds great... until the economy collapses, millions of people die and millions of others lose their homes and go bankrupt. It is almost like the world is hard and some problems have no good solutions no matter how much you pretend there is a simple solution. |
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If it weren't for both the naysayers and the believers these pieces wouldn't be nearly as collectible as they are now.
You're holding a bag of laser engraved wood made by a scammer. I don't think they are as collectible as you seem to think they are given the fact that you were able to obtain almost the entire supply. Too funny. And he probably paid more than you hold total in your wallet. I am not going to get into specifics for privacy sake, but getting a hold of all of these was not cheap or easy. |
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Suspending income tax on unemployment benefits sounds like a good idea.
But suspending all income tax would mean giving the bottom 50% of the country 3% of the benefits.
The motivation behind the stimulus package is to help people that were already cutting it close with their rent/mortgage payments so that once the this whole thing is over they'll be able to get back to work immediately. Waiting till next April when they file their taxes won't help much. Handing out free money sounds like a good idea... until hyperinflation and socialism become the norm, no one gets paid, and your pets become meals. |
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It is normal practice to do fundraising by selling stuff and to donate all collected funds. There is nothing wrong about it, would you 2 please stop acting like 2 complete morons about this? Because both of you sound like this now. @Vod please stop accusing OG that he is doing this for profit and @OG please stop trying to look like the world is spinning around you and like you are the only one who donated and/or you organized donations.
Nice false equivalency you have there. Vod: Substantiate every claim you made about OG in this thread on this page specifically.
I bet you can't.... instead you will ignore this post, or throw some denigration in return....
I await....
Every claim? He can't substantiate ONE claim. He is too busy using people dying of cancer and the Coronavirus as tools to fight his little psychotic spats to substantiate anything. Like I said before, Vod is a vile piece of shit who will use ANYTHING to try to elicit sympathy for himself. I can only imagine what kind of pig this degenerate was on the streets with a badge to force people to comply with his psychosis. You are a sick and pathetic individual Vod. Check yourself in to a psychiatric facility and stop hurting people because of your inability to cope with your own issues. |
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I say they settle this with a fight to the death.
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People who just now lost their jobs will still owe taxes later on what they already earned.
Most employees have their income tax withheld by the employer. Losing a job may put them in a lower tax bracket and make them eligible for a tax refund, not make them owe taxes later. And clowns MIGHT fly out of your ass. I guess we should put more taxes on circuses just to be sure. |
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Thank you for donating! Only 9 slots left for round one! |
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Dumb. Suspend income taxes indefinitely.
The people who didn't lose any income would receive the most assistance. The people who lost their jobs would receive none. Do you understand the motivation for the stimulus package? People are being taxed, that means they are losing income. People who just now lost their jobs will still owe taxes later on what they already earned. Individuals and businesses operating without income tax would be a HUGE economic incentive for EVERYONE to keep working and create more jobs. Do you not understand simple concepts of economics? The way I read it, it's an attempt to avoid a repeat of something like the Great Depression.
That sort of thing really happens in the minds of the people, not in the basic economic facts. Can things go back to normal? Semi normal? How about normal without cruise ships?
The government is trying its best to encourage a positive attitude in the people. I have to agree and support that. And experts are mostly in agreement the government intervention into the great depression is exactly what caused it to last much longer than it would have otherwise. |
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I already donated before I saw this raffle.
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spot 4 please
thanks for doing this raffle
Thank you for donating! FYI, you can claim up to 10 total slots, though I would ask you spread them out to multiple rounds if you want to claim more than 5 at a time. Thank you! |
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Even if you already donated, claim your slots! Now some awesome limited edition posters from 2014, and some silver in the pool! |
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Dumb. Suspend income taxes indefinitely. Don't take money from people and hand it back to them. This is not only of limited benefit, it also creates a dangerous dependence on government. The government should be dependent on the people, no the people dependent on the government. People dependent on the government = slaves, not free men.
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