This forum needs objective evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreements, or violation of applicable laws before negative rating or flagging in order to prevent abuse of the trust system that it self can be used to extort people into removing valid negative ratings or flags. Without this, it is a simple task to simply abuse the system to cover up crimes and abuses.
Last week you added this user to your trust list, I don't see how these negative ratings are valid according to your standards: Troll, lied many time, called other russian DT members "corrupted", insulting and lying about trusted members of russian local board (as chimk). Consider crypto community as sectarians and bitcoin as a ponzie. Don't trust him. 2nd part of this one is Google translated from Russian: A liar, a troll, is not responsible for his words, constantly translates arrows. Calls the crypto community sectarians. You can’t trust I collected every proof in one post (the only reason for second feedback). Liar, bitcoin hater. Don't have with him any deal without escrow! 2nd part also translated: A slanderer is a rotten creature by definition. With him there is nothing to talk or argue about, on any topic, only you should not be smeared in feces. Brown, sticky and sticky. And it stinks. (c) Balthazar Also translated: The problem is not that you still had accounts, but that you brazenly lied in the face to those who respected you. "It was not the fact that you lied to me that shocked me, but the fact that I no longer believe you ..." Friedrich Nietzsche Doesn't seem to be any objective evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreements, or violation of applicable laws there. Seems like you want to be the beneficiary of Objective Standards but you don't want to enforce them yourself -- especially when it gets in the way of your DT farming. Of course, you're free to accuse me of digging through your shit, etc., or you could just explain why you included this user when they don't adhere to the standards you have presented. There is nothing out of line with my standards. 3. Users who regularly and repeatedly ignore these standards should be excluded from trust lists. If you examine the left ratings by the user "johhnyUA" you can see they make regular use of neutral ratings rather than negative ratings, which is quite appropriate. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=623643 |
|
|
|
Remind me, when did I claim this subpoena even existed? Oh right never. That was Twittyseal that brought it up.
This is a weird way around answering my question. You said "the court" ruled the Laura Cooper subpoena was invalid. Can you provide a source for that? Is that what I said? Please quote. The court ruled the only subpoena you could even produce invalid.
The only subpoena I could produce was for Laura Cooper, because that's the only one that was made available as part of the public record. So, which court are you talking about, and where is that court's ruling? Unlike congressional subpoena files, court rulings are all made public, so it should be easy for you to find. If you're not talking about Laura Cooper, then what were you talking about? Sure, no problem. Real records are easily found. https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/29F7900862BA6CD68525851C00784758/$file/19-5331-1831001.pdf Real subpoenas are public records. Perhaps you will be able to produce them in 2024. |
|
|
|
Next weeks cover for The New Yorker:
[img ]https://i.gyazo.com/b0b612320febf20ff1143c5d98903f2d.png[/img]
I have to admit though, the White House has gotten much better the past few days since Trump stopped doing them. The Pence press conferences consist mostly of him letting the experts respond to questions (and he doesn't contradict them). I think they realized that Trump spiked the football too early and continually double downing on lies would only make things much worse bc this thing isn't going away for a while.
Thanks for even more proof that this pandemic is just another political tool for the Democrat party. |
|
|
|
Remind me, when did I claim this subpoena even existed? Oh right never. That was Twittyseal that brought it up.
This is a weird way around answering my question. You said "the court" ruled the Laura Cooper subpoena was invalid. Can you provide a source for that? Is that what I said? Please quote. So when are you going to produce the subpoenas Nutilduuuuh? What is a appropriate amount of time to pass before you admit you were wrong? It has been 4 months now, you still can't find the subpoenas. Will it be at 6 months? A year? Perhaps after Donald Trump's next term is finished? |
|
|
|
You were forced
Pictures or it didn't happen. Public shame is a form of force. So you think you are a tough guy, forcing everyone around?  Who said I forced him? I don't have the ability to force him to do anything. However faced with the diminishing of his own reputation over leaving his repeated abusive trust ratings up, he was forced to choose between paying that cost an keeping it, or doing the reasonable thing and removing the baseless abusive rating. Speaking of wannabe tough guys "forcing everyone around" aren't you the one attempting to use baseless negative ratings to extort the removal of a valid rating on your trust page? Who forced me?
I have no idea. You tell me. |
|
|
|
Since Lauda can't have an open discussion about this subject I decided to open this thread to allow actual free discussion of the topic, without Lauda being free to remove anything they don't agree with at will. OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230267.msg53960811Archive: https://archive.is/msSdfA reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Guys, Lauda is manipulating the trust system. Everybody's known that for a long time. But when I added her tilde, she thought I was manipulating the trust system. Look through the history of my trust lists from the Losev's dumps and you'll see which one of us is right.
Isn't it clear? If you use the trust system in any way that the clown car doesn't agree with, it is "manipulation". Get with the program. |
|
|
|
What you did was a felony Vod
Copy/pasting public info on a private board? Don't think so Techy. My trust on you starts with Mentally ill stalker who will...You complain it is trust abuse. These accusations claim to know not only my thoughts, intents...
Your trust on me starts with Mentally ill stalker who will...I have asked many times, if I remove the reference to your obvious mental illness and replace the rating with one exclusively about your inexcusable doxing activities, will you then consider the rating valid? ...What Vod did was in fact illegal. " 18 U.S. Code § 2261A provides: “Whoever— (2) with the intent to kill, injure, harass, intimidate, or place under surveillance with intent to kill, injure, harass, or intimidate another person, uses the mail, any interactive computer service or electronic communication service or electronic communication system of interstate commerce, or any other facility of interstate or foreign commerce to engage in a course of conduct that— (A) places that person in reasonable fear of the death of or serious bodily injury to a person …; or (B) causes, attempts to cause, or would be reasonably expected to cause substantial emotional distress to a person … shall be punished as provided in section 2261(b) of this title.”" As many have already pointed out, he was well known to be a forum treasurer, holding a significant amount of funds, announcing his private residence in public could quite reasonably be considered putting him at significant risk. This combined with Vod's clear attempt to harass and intimidate puts his actions well within the realm of this statute. What you did was a crime under this statute. |
|
|
|
Cmon, let him act on this one to show he stands behind his words.
Or maybe just let the topic die already since there's clearly nothing positive coming out of it? Objectivity was seemingly never the objective, heh. Maybe you can throw some more circular logic at me. This forum needs objective evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreements, or violation of applicable laws before negative rating or flagging in order to prevent abuse of the trust system that it self can be used to extort people into removing valid negative ratings or flags. Without this, it is a simple task to simply abuse the system to cover up crimes and abuses. |
|
|
|
What subpoena Nutilduhhh?
The subpoena by senate Republicans into the Burisma "case." It doesn't exist until you can provide me with a copy of it. Until then REEEEE WITCH HUNT. The court ruled the only subpoena you could even produce invalid.
The subpoena for Laura Cooper? That's news to me. Mind sharing a source for that? Repeat after me "I was wrong TECSHARE."
Okay, I can do that. "You were wrong TECSHARE." Remind me, when did I claim this subpoena even existed? Oh right never. That was Twittyseal that brought it up. Furthermore if you could read you would see they announced the plan to issue the subpoena. "Senate Homeland Security Committee chairman Ron Johnson (R-WI) plans to force a vote to issue the first subpoena linked to his probe involving Hunter Biden and Ukrainian energy firm, Burisma Holdings." https://www.zerohedge.com/political/senate-homeland-committee-issue-first-subpoena-biden-burisma-probeLaura Cooper volunteered to testify. This is not proof of the validity of the so called "subpoena" as she was not compelled to testify, but volunteered to do so. Speaking of being wrong, when is it you think you will be able to produce all those subpoenas you swore up and down for pages and pages that really existed? You should start practicing now so it stings less when the inevitable realization you were wrong occurs. "I was wrong TECSHARE." Say it a few times, eventually you will get it right. You try too Twittyseal. Maybe Suchgoon will show up and I can provide a full 3 course meal of crow for you all. |
|
|
|
I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Bidens chances at winning the nomination just shot up. Senate Republicans plan first subpoena in Burisma, Biden probeNa, probably just a coincidence. "If approved, Johnson’s move would mark the first subpoena Senate Republicans have issued in their probe into Biden and Burisma.""Telizhenko is a 29-year-old Ukrainian national who has fueled the widely debunked theory embraced by Trump that Ukraine assisted former secretary of state Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election with help from the Democratic National Committee."Give me a break, Biden has ZERO chance. This has been an ongoing investigation. This decision was made on the 24th of February. Funny, you don't consider any of this impeachment bullshit election interference now that it has been absolutely proven to be based on nothing. No, what is bullshit is a legitimate ongoing investigation based on factual evidence. Sounds familiar. "Republicans FINALLY Plan To Subpoena Democrat Firm Over Biden Dealings, Journalists Push Fake News" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15xcLfdMMpII wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Bidens chances at winning the nomination just shot up. Na, probably just a coincidence. Senate Republicans plan first subpoena in Burisma, Biden probe"If approved, Johnson’s move would mark the first subpoena Senate Republicans have issued in their probe into Biden and Burisma.""Telizhenko is a 29-year-old Ukrainian national who has fueled the widely debunked theory embraced by Trump that Ukraine assisted former secretary of state Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election with help from the Democratic National Committee."Of course, remember its not actually a subpoena until we can see a copy of the actual subpoena. Until then, its just a baseless witch hunt. What subpoena Nutilduhhh? The court ruled the only subpoena you could even produce invalid. You often like telling me that I can never admit I was wrong, now its your turn. Repeat after me "I was wrong TECSHARE." |
|
|
|
You were forced
Pictures or it didn't happen. Public shame is a form of force. |
|
|
|
This sounds an awful lot like what you and your red nosed friends are doing to silence any criticism of your trust system abuse.
I wonder how you posted this. Marlboroza is even using the fact that I disagree with him in his "investigations" (read retaliatory peanut hunting expeditions) as justification for negative ratings.
Can you quote me post where I said I tagged you because I disagreed with you? Stop lying moron. I didn't bother to place all topics where you interfered and deflected other peoples investigations in feedback. This thread itself documents several instances of negative rating abuse by Marlboroza, of which he was forced to remove under public pressure.
Who forced me exactly  I decided it is best to not follow your double standardz guild and remove this feedback. It was suggested to me that best thing I can do is to stay away from lunatics like you. You keep trying to silence me, but it isn't working. I disagree with you, and you just label it "interfering and deflecting" and call it a legitimate use of negative trust ratings. You were forced to do so by the same people advising you that these abusive ratings only make you look bad, like what happened just now. See you next time you can't restrain yourself and decide to abuse the trust system against me yet again. |
|
|
|
Speaking of trust lists and standards, I noticed now that I demonstrated Vod had comitted a criminal act, you vaporized from that thread.
I encourage all people to "vaporize" from threads where blind accusations are made without proof. If I have "comitted" a criminal act, join OG in a lawsuit, liar. The fact that you doxed OGNasty with the intent to harass him, putting his safety at risk is not even under dispute. It is a well documented fact. It is also a fact this kind of action is something users are usually instantly and permanently banned for, in addition to it being a federal crime. Why would I join a lawsuit I am not a party to? Just more mindless gibbering. So now 9 years of work building a positive reputation = "trust farming"? Sounds more like you are annoyed you can't dictate to every single person who they should be adding to their trust list.
No, including various shitheads just because they include you is what I meant by "farming". I'm not dictating anything, do whatever you want, just don't expect to be taken seriously with your "standards" and other BS when you included users like that. Speaking of trust lists and standards, I noticed now that I demonstrated Vod had comitted a criminal act, you vaporized from that thread. I wonder why. Again, what is important is you don't like me, not that Vod, marlboroza, or Lauda are abusing the use of negative ratings as a form of retribution for speaking critically of them. Retribution only matters to you when it goes the way you don't like.
As opposed to what - me managing my trust lists exactly the way you like it? Your theatrics would make more sense if e.g. you had been red-trusting for doxing or exposing account sellers in the past and not just when it suited you in your attacks against Vod and nutildah. On the other hand, you have a history of retaliatory and "non-standard" red trust in your personal squabbles like "You should focus on your own affairs instead of harassing others" and "I believe this user to be mentally ill". If it quacks like a duck and posts bullshit ratings like a duck, it shouldn't be in DT. No idea why you keep blaming for anything Lauda-related but I'm sure there is an exciting conspiracy theory behind it - bring it on. And you know my state of mind and reasoning for including people do you? Of course your baseless assumptions are above reproach. Actually I see you constantly trying to dictate to users who they should and shouldn't be including in their trust lists, unfortunately noobs usually just take you at face value and clear their lists because they don't know any better. I do however, and my refusal to capitulate is used as justification for impugning my character with all of your baseless assumptions. Unlike you, I have no desire to be a forum cop, thus I don't spend my time patrolling the "mean streets" of Bitcointalk looking for reasons to tag people. As a result I tend to use my very limited use of negative ratings almost exclusively to tag people I have direct interactions with. Of course again, this is used as some kind of supposed evidence I am up to no good. Did I leave Nutilduhh a rating? Are you suggesting I shouldn't even criticize them? Also what Vod did was not only a felony that put OGNasty's safety at risk, it is something other users get a permanent instaban for. I asked you already once, if I removed the reference to Vods clearly observable obsessive compulsive disorder and replace it with one purely about his harassment and doxing of OGNasty, would you then consider that rating valid? You get blame because you endlessly attempt to deflect and cover for these people, even when you admit their behavior is abusive. You only ever even criticized Lauda recently as their behavior became too obviously inexcusable for you to maintain deniability in the matter. Also in the case of Vod you are explicitly giving him the authority to abuse the trust system by including him. |
|
|
|
What you did was a felony Vod, and also something other users get a permanent instaban for doing just what you did. Still waiting for you to quote any substantiation for any of the claims you have made in your negative ratings against me. This thread is replete with examples of you abusing the trust system against me in the past in an attempt to extort me into silencing my criticisms of your behavior. This time is no different, it is just an extension of your years of obsession with me. *snip*
But since I admittedly can't prove that I know what you were actually thinking or what your actual motivations were *snip* Finally a bit of direct honest analysis from someone else...... As an outsider... its maddening to see how this is progressing. Don't be maddened. It's impossible to prove pretty much anything if you're looking at it in absolute terms (which TECSHARE does on a regular basis when it's to his benefit). Nearly every scam that's ever happened on this forum lacks the evidence to prove that there is a 0.0% chance that the scammer is innocent. Same goes for pretty much every crime that involves the internet or computers. The same goes for every criminal who was convicted based on finger prints or DNA. Don't fall for the 'circumstantial evidence is worthless. nothing more than baseless speculation'. Circumstantial evidence is pretty much all we have for anything on a forum like this. If we decided to just ignore it, scammers would be able to get away with anything. If you're just looking for 100% proof of anything in these situations, you'll never find it. The best you can do is look at the evidence, consciously be as objective as possible and make up your own mind. Most likely some will disagree with your opinion. That's not a bad thing. Absolute horse shit. You have ZERO evidence, not even circumstantial. Everything presented relies on assumptions and pretending to know what my state of mind was. That coming from a group of people with clearly documented bias and plenty of past history of antagonism against me is nothing but worthless fodder to serve petty vendettas. Furthermore there is plenty of motivation for the people who gate keep the default trust to try to discredit me, because what I am advocating for disables their ability to unilaterally control the trust system, punish their critics free of repercussions, and protect them from being penalized with in it for their own illicit activities by offering mutual protection as a small uniform voting block. If we are talking about circumstantial evidence, I have FAR MORE evidence that the trust system is being abuse against me to serve personal vendettas and protection of control of the trust system than you do that I was ever abusing it in any way. Almost without exception, everyone who currently has left me negative ratings has a history of using them abusively and being forced to remove them in the past because the community judged them to be baseless. That is more solid than your stacks of assumptions and claims to have the ability to read my mind. Again, what this boils down to is people shouldn't be tagging based on opinions or disagreeing with opinions, which is exactly what all this is. These kind of ratings are totally indistinguishable from trust system abuse, which is exactly the point of doing it under such pretenses, so you can maintain a plausible denial that this is abuse, while never presenting any actual evidence. |
|
|
|
I am very fond of 3D printers and nowadays there are very few good options, but I have a very good option for you, look ender 3d printer review this will help you a lot) Ocean Builders is getting an Erectorbot 3D printer. One of the largest 3D printers in the world. http://www.erectorbot.com/Is it possible to build boats with that thing? |
|
|
|
By the way I was looking around and found this - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2073579.msg20717506#msg20717506such great thoughts about those reputed coins shows how arrogant and negative minded Lauda is quote below DASH
Instamined scam. ETC
Original Ethereum. ETHEREUM
Centralized bailout scam. LTC
Silver to Bitcoin. XRP
That's not even a cryptocurrency. Have u heard about Recoin? i purchased 700$ but planning to do more. what do u think about investment like this?
You are an idiot. Stop investing in shit that nobody uses/wants/needs. Calling someone idiot just because he invests in altcoins while if someone calls Lauda idiot I am sure Lauda and his army will red paint him to an extent that his account will look like a joke. You don't think so, let me call it, Lauda you are an idiot and a piece of shit Lauda is a confirmed scammer. He was originally called lauda You see he is calling dash an instamined scam above. Well you found gold there. That project was originally called xcoin then darkcoin. A scam hunting legend cryptohunter busted him for lying and pushing that same scam when he owned bags of it. For a very long time lauda was pushing that scam and lying to defend it. LaudaM for months lies claiming he was on the xcoin/dash launch and said he was present and confimes there was no unfair start no premine/ instamine. He was pushing that scam for ages until he unloaded his bags. Years later when lauda called cryptohunter a liar and would not present evidence crypto Hunter encouraged others to investigate laudas history and specifically his dash pushing and defending. Find the lauda section and trace it back to his lies he was on dash launch and no premine instamine ... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170789.0Closure or loss of some earnings...hmmmm. No big exchanges will risk it if they try and ban it. It won't have this much volume after the pump is done.
Don't be such an obvious pumper, at least pretend to consider some possible negatives. The fact you believe there was no instamine is the best part.
I'd rather be closed than submit to the foul government. There is no pump going on. We have just started to get the attention of some media, wait for the full impact. There was no instamine, I was there. Lauda gave him red trust for whistle blowing on him, this was backed by him auction scamming friend tman and other complicit scum like yogg and owlcatz. Theymos is not any better he backs these proven scammers and lists then accuses whistleblowers of being the bad guys. All the other DT members are scared or complicit. Happy so long as they get to spam chipmixer and other scampaigns. I don't trust any of these DT or even Theymos now that removed laudas exclusion. All either scammers or complicit with them. Theymos has clear and undeniable evidence of laudas scamming and using tags to silence those that present the truth about him and he still will not blacklist him. This looks very dubious after all of this time. I mean when the warden of this forum suddenly creates a method to reintroduce a bunch of proven scammers previously kicked out of DT and painted red back in to DT glowing green and fully entrenched. Then says proven scamming, extortion, shady escrowing and using the trust system to red tag whistle blowers is just sub optimal. Then you start till wonder what is going on behind the scenes. The proof is right there in your post. He is a liar and scammer. Lauda and DT are rotten. The evidence against lauda is concrete, same for DT they are complicit. The evidence against Theymos continues to build and is heading into a very negative direction. There is no conceivable reason why Theymos would remove the lauda exclude or not ban that filthy piece of scamming dirt. Fortunejack and chipmixer sponsor the most shady people on this forum. Theymos has developed the most shady looking governance system possible. It removes all accountability and rewards and entrenched abuse and manipulation, while as you clearly note crushes free speech. You speak up you get a red tag and merit starvation. What a terrible environment Theymos has created so far. Join the guild started by Tecshare on meta board. The lists are guides but over time The guild will have The mass of numbers to cause the scamming and complicit DT abusers a lot of problems. Interesting. That puts a lot of the current happenings into perspective. |
|
|
|
In order to "manufacture timelines", one has to present a false order of events.
FTFY. You feel you have some kind of right to not only demand I explain why I included these people, but that it must be done in such a manner commensurate with your demands
Not at all. You have every much a right to include who you want as I do to assume you were fishing for reciprocal inclusions. or else I am "manufacturing timelines".
Again, no. The fact that you were presenting events out of order is why you were manufacturing timelines. Not only that there were private communications as well, there is also the fact that I thought their trust lists were also positive additions. Some of the users I added for the simple reason that I agreed with their trust list. Okay. You are again changing the story from what you said months earlier: You want to REALLY know why I added those Turkish users? Because they were just barely off the DT and I wanted to see it more diverse. Additionally because anyone the resident clowns exclude I immediately find interest in. The Turkish community was obviously being targeted. I don't believe it was for racist reasons though, I just think the clowns feel like they can't keep their iron grip of nepotism if more groups are included. All this circus is, is punishment for working to bust up their little clown cartel, and it is painfully transparent.
But since I admittedly can't prove that I know what you were actually thinking or what your actual motivations were, I ask that people look at the body of evidence presented and come to their own conclusions. BTW, I don't necessarily agree with Vod's negative rating for you over this issue. I think you are quite capable of delivering packages and that you aren't a scammer. However, I do think its a reason why you shouldn't be in DT. There is no "body of evidence". There are a string of assumptions, with accusations stacked on top of them upon which even more assumptions were based. That is not evidence, that is at best theorizing and nothing a trust rating should be based on. Once again, I manufactured nothing. You seem intent on this being some kind of deception, just like all your other assumptions here. Some of the users I included because I thought their trust lists were beneficial, some of them I included because of their response to the advice concerning the removal of support from a frivolous flag. It is as simple as that, no "manufacturing of timelines" needed. This is purely a projection on your part designed to impugn my character to serve your own personal vendettas, and the vendettas of people like Vod. Vultures like you saw I was achieving something positive and did a deep dive into my toilet bowl looking for any peanut fragments you could find in order to tarnish this effort that yielded positive results, because if I have a say in the default trust, I will erode the unilateral control and protection from being penalized for your own abuses that you and your friends currently enjoy. All the same people abusing negative ratings against me are all the same peanut hunters that are the most vocal in opposition to my calls for an objective standard of evidence before leaving negative ratings. This is about serving yourself, not about protecting the forum from me. |
|
|
|
|
I heard another interesting possible motive that China would have for this being a self inflicted wound. China is losing the trade war, the world is waking up to its totalitarian practices, its economy is running on fumes and fraud and its time is numbered as retraction is inevitable for them. The USA is actively moving manufacturing back on shore, but it is still heavily dependent on China as a supply chain.
If China were to shut down access to its production capacity, it would most certainly see repercussions, either in the form of sanctions or possibly even war. However, with this outbreak as an excuse to lock everything down and quarantine its work force, they have a justification for denying the world access to its supply chain before it can rebuild its production capacity domestically. In this way, it could be a preemptive strike on the world's economy by China. Knowing it's own fate is sealed, it may have chosen to go forward with a form of economic mutually assured destruction.
Of course this also has the added benefit of allowing them to almost totally end any domestic dissent and protests, as well as round up massive numbers of dissidents under the pretense of quarantines. This also serves as a form of depopulation, not just by the disease, but by welding people into their apartments to starve, or simply not have access to food because everything is shut down.
So far this is the most plausible motive I have heard that aligns not only with all of the facts of the circumstances of the matter, seeing as China's only level 4 pathogen lab is located in Wuhan, but the results long term serve to benefit the CCP most as they struggle to maintain control.
|
|
|
|
This is a video a lot of members of this forum could benefit from watching. It has implications beyond just politics as well. "Woke Leftists Fear Those Who Can't Be Canceled, Attempted Cancellation Makes People STRONGER" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fib16jOL7xc |
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
