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3361  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 04:26:34 AM
Is there still a chance bitcoin breaks ath before the new year? Is CME, CBOE and other old financial company traders trying to kill bitcoin's growth slowly?

Perhaps 38.6317928%-ish?  hahahahaha.... more conservative charlie from me?

JJG, are you on drugs during the holidays? Or just drunk?

I puzzle why you assert such?

My behavior is not inconsistent with prior behavior.   I did get a chance to catch up on the thread, and further is my estimated odds for a new pre- New Year ATH out of wack?   truly puzzled, I am.    Huh

Not inconsistent, just elevated and accelerated and hyper.


Perhaps, overly excited because so far this BTC "crash" has not really gone beyond a 43% correction, which was $11,160 on Bitstamp.


Surely, UP is not inevitable, but BTC seems to be quite poised for the new year, and we are still 3-4x beyond my most bullish expectations in this same time-frame.

Anyone else a BTC HODLer and accumulator in this thread, beyond me?  I would think that this thread has lots of folks in really decent BTC positions, and maybe they are remaining silent regarding their excitement - because in the past several days, we have also seen a lot of trolling and bcash shilling going on in this thread too, right?

I'm a hodler since 2013, but I'm also a north European, and we do not go around and show feelings, to us that is a private matter.
You I guess are some kind of south European/south American or some kind of derivation thereof.
And your kind are known to not being able to control and contain your feelings, much like a child.

Haaahahahah

What a bunch of bullshit.

Maybe you don't know how to read tone or context?  Or perhaps you just want to stir shit and engage in irrelevant attempts at psycho-analysis?

Merely because someone in this thread or otherwise shows indications of emotions or s/he types with a certain amount of flare or emphasis, upon certain words or appearance of emotion does not necessarily indicate that s/he is either writing out of emotion or has lost control of his/her emotions.

Get a fucking clue.... you presumptuous nincompoop!   Roll Eyes


Maybe my writings was a little too strong, I meant nothing bad by it, I still think the stereotypes are true though.

Anyway, have a good Christmas and new year.....   you annoying nincompoop.
3362  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 03:52:32 AM
Badger is enjoying some holiday spirits

Made me listen to "badgers" on you tube.
3363  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 03:44:36 AM
Is there still a chance bitcoin breaks ath before the new year? Is CME, CBOE and other old financial company traders trying to kill bitcoin's growth slowly?

Perhaps 38.6317928%-ish?  hahahahaha.... more conservative charlie from me?

JJG, are you on drugs during the holidays? Or just drunk?

I puzzle why you assert such?

My behavior is not inconsistent with prior behavior.   I did get a chance to catch up on the thread, and further is my estimated odds for a new pre- New Year ATH out of wack?   truly puzzled, I am.    Huh

Not inconsistent, just elevated and accelerated and hyper.


Perhaps, overly excited because so far this BTC "crash" has not really gone beyond a 43% correction, which was $11,160 on Bitstamp.


Surely, UP is not inevitable, but BTC seems to be quite poised for the new year, and we are still 3-4x beyond my most bullish expectations in this same time-frame.

Anyone else a BTC HODLer and accumulator in this thread, beyond me?  I would think that this thread has lots of folks in really decent BTC positions, and maybe they are remaining silent regarding their excitement - because in the past several days, we have also seen a lot of trolling and bcash shilling going on in this thread too, right?

I'm a hodler since 2013, but I'm also a north European, and we do not go around and show feelings, to us that is a private matter.
You I guess are some kind of south European/south American or some kind of derivation thereof.
And your kind are known to not being able to control and contain your feelings, much like a child.

3364  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 02:44:22 AM
I just realized that I forgot to wish everybody a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
So, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!

Now, Santa last evening gave me a new hard drive to replace the one in my old computer that crashed. I have since bought a new computer with Windows 10 installed, and that OS is a piece of shit, it kidnaps my computer for hours and it changes my settings and puts back things that I have removed, and you can't disable updates. And now I have learned that the CPU might spy on me. So that computer is going to be used for mining Bgold instead.

Since there seems to be some computer savvy guys on here I'm asking your advice.
I'm thinking of installing PureOS as my OS on my new hard drive. Are there any issues with that OS? like popular applications not working?

The new shit computer will get a GPU installed (also courtesy of Santa ) and will be used for mining Bgold. I have never mined before and I'm doing it mostly because I want the experience.
I know absolutely nothing about mining and will just follow the steps in the Bgold tutorial without actually knowing what I'm doing.
My question is, does it matter how the computer is connected to the router? Is it enough to use a wifi connection?
Or must I use a cable?

These M/S effers prompted me to voluntarily "upgrade" to Windows 10.  After a day or two, I uninstalled.
Then they freaking tricked me into reinstalling it via auto "updates" a few months later.
USA is a freaking spy state.
Uninstall ASAP!
BTW Windows 7 is OK until you find something better.
Stay away from BCG.

Yeah, I had Windows 7 on the old computer before the HD crashed, and it worked fine. But they tried real hard to get me to update to 10, but I resisted.
However for mining only I see no reason to uninstall, if I'm wrong I will definitely try and install Windows 7 if I can find it.

And I'm mining for fun and the experience so Bgold is as good as any other shit coin as I see it.
3365  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 02:31:19 AM
Is there still a chance bitcoin breaks ath before the new year? Is CME, CBOE and other old financial company traders trying to kill bitcoin's growth slowly?

Perhaps 38.6317928%-ish?  hahahahaha.... more conservative charlie from me?

JJG, are you on drugs during the holidays? Or just drunk?

I puzzle why you assert such?

My behavior is not inconsistent with prior behavior.   I did get a chance to catch up on the thread, and further is my estimated odds for a new pre- New Year ATH out of wack?   truly puzzled, I am.    Huh

Not inconsistent, just elevated and accelerated and hyper.
3366  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 02:28:35 AM
I just realized that I forgot to wish everybody a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
So, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!

Now, Santa last evening gave me a new hard drive to replace the one in my old computer that crashed. I have since bought a new computer with Windows 10 installed, and that OS is a piece of shit, it kidnaps my computer for hours and it changes my settings and puts back things that I have removed, and you can't disable updates. And now I have learned that the CPU might spy on me. So that computer is going to be used for mining Bgold instead.

Since there seems to be some computer savvy guys on here I'm asking your advice.
I'm thinking of installing PureOS as my OS on my new hard drive. Are there any issues with that OS? like popular applications not working?

The new shit computer will get a GPU installed (also courtesy of Santa ) and will be used for mining Bgold. I have never mined before and I'm doing it mostly because I want the experience.
I know absolutely nothing about mining and will just follow the steps in the Bgold tutorial without actually knowing what I'm doing.
My question is, does it matter how the computer is connected to the router? Is it enough to use a wifi connection?
Or must I use a cable?
3367  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 01:40:30 AM
Is there still a chance bitcoin breaks ath before the new year? Is CME, CBOE and other old financial company traders trying to kill bitcoin's growth slowly?

Perhaps 38.6317928%-ish?  hahahahaha.... more conservative charlie from me?

JJG, are you on drugs during the holidays? Or just drunk?
3368  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 25, 2017, 11:39:50 PM
Soon, the 300 physical metals, silver spear equipped goyim will put Shlomo Nakamoto's centralized tracking system and his 21 million "immortals" to the test.



You know the Spartans died and Persians won, right?

The Spartans died, but I wouldn't exactly say that Persia won.
3369  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 25, 2017, 05:17:02 AM
<nonsense>

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306

Satoshi would not have wasted his time answering such a question if it was not in his original mind frame.

Great quote from that link too "If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry."

I mean that link alone says more than anything I could or would ever need to say... something needs to change to regain market confidence in my opinion.



LOL good one!

Or fucking Poloniex  Lips sealed

I think that's a woman.

Nahh..its just one of those "either or's" that seem to be coming outta the woodwork these days. No worries...just dont raise an eyebrow
or anything like that. Its not polite....

No Adam's apple.
3370  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 25, 2017, 12:21:56 AM
Yeah, every trade is a taxable event to US persons. Whether that is buying coffee or litecoin. It is property according to the IRS.

Even if you thought you could get away with the like kind exchange rule, you still have to report every trade individually on the exemption form.

If it were classified as a stock, you could just report net gains and losses but not so with property.

They have made compliance nearly impossible so unless someone passes a law to exempt transactions prior to a certain date, a lot of people are going to owe back taxes and penalties if not jail time.
Simple solution: Become an expat.

Not so easy or simple, unfortunately. Have you heard of the Exit Tax? Capital gains are realized for high net worth individuals upon renouncing.

You still owe cap gains if you don't renounce and just expat. Unless you plan on just hiding and never setting foot in US again nor using any international banks cooperating with FinCen rules.

Puerto Rico offers tax free cap gains for residents, but you still owe on any gains realized up to the date you become a resident.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2017/02/27/renounce-u-s-heres-how-irs-computes-exit-tax/#45c8627287d4

No, I actually haven't heard of the exit tax. It does make sense to some degree, or at least it would if taxes were legitimate in the first place. But regardless of whether or not you'd choose to pay what you "owe" before renouncing, it still doesn't sound like anyone who expects any significant profits should be staying in the US any longer than absolutely necessary for whatever individual circumstances.

Agreed. However, I'm suspecting you're not married or have many close family relations in the US? The moment I brought up renouncing to my wife, and that she would need to apply for visas to visit family, friends, etc., well... you can imagine the response. Although she's warming up to it proportionally to crypto value.

Which begs the question, how much is US citizenship worth? A US passport gets you in a lot of places without visas or trouble. Attaining citizenship in another country takes time and often a good deal of (traceable, taxable) fiat. Although being stateless is an option, it's not recommended for long. You have no rights, anywhere.




I think you can buy New Zealand citizenship and that will get you anywhere US citizenship will.  You can go buy mountain in Queenstown with all the hedge fund billionaires.

New Zealand is a very nice place to live. Come on down.
https://www.newzealandnow.govt.nz/investing-in-nz/visas/investor-visa

What's the weather like in NZ?

Depends on where you  live. Wellington is windy and gets a lot of rain, although the city is beautiful. I spent many years working in Wellington and I prefer it over Auckland. Auckland is nice but it has gotten expensive and crowded. Wine country of Hawkes Bay is fantastic.( Napier and Hastings) Great weather, many wineries, great food, fantastic bike riding.

The south island is extremely beautiful. I will be spending some more time there next year. So many great places. I want to go to Lake Tekapo. It is one of our dark sky reserves for seeing the night sky.


 

Thanks, I might go for a visit at least, but a little worried about seismic activity.
3371  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 24, 2017, 10:48:09 PM
<nonsense>

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306

Satoshi would not have wasted his time answering such a question if it was not in his original mind frame.

Great quote from that link too "If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry."

I mean that link alone says more than anything I could or would ever need to say... something needs to change to regain market confidence in my opinion.



LOL good one!

Or fucking Poloniex  Lips sealed

I think that's a woman.
3372  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 07:01:25 PM
Creation of fiat is neccessary because they amount of goods, services, and people are constantly growing. If there was no new fiat, fiat would be deflationary and then nobody would spend it - only hoard it like bitcoins.

I understand. But thank you. Smiley

Not so fast. That's the keynesian version. That is the version of economics thats been in fashion since the end of WW2. It's because of that version of economics that we now have inflationary fiat money. It's supposed to make the money flow and thus increase GDP, and in the end everybody's wealth.

However, that system doesn't seem to work. It makes it impossible to save, and makes it necessary to borrow, witch in the end makes average Joe poorer, and makes the economy crash regularly.

The economic system used before WW2, and the system that cryptocurrencies belong to is called the Austrian school of economics. It basically says that money should not be inflationary, and people should be able to save for a rainy day. A dollar or whatever currency you use should still be wort the same in a 100 years time.
People will still consume, but they will save for their consumtion instead of borrowing for it. Bitcoin is a Austrian type of currency, and one with hyper deflation at that. Something never seen before, and a very interesting economic experiment

The future will probably see two parallel economics at work at the same time, where people will save in crypto, and borrow in fiat. This might either stabilize the economy or crash it. I think it will make it more stable, but only the future can tell.
3373  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 04:31:03 PM
Yeah, every trade is a taxable event to US persons. Whether that is buying coffee or litecoin. It is property according to the IRS.

Even if you thought you could get away with the like kind exchange rule, you still have to report every trade individually on the exemption form.

If it were classified as a stock, you could just report net gains and losses but not so with property.

They have made compliance nearly impossible so unless someone passes a law to exempt transactions prior to a certain date, a lot of people are going to owe back taxes and penalties if not jail time.
Simple solution: Become an expat.

Not so easy or simple, unfortunately. Have you heard of the Exit Tax? Capital gains are realized for high net worth individuals upon renouncing.

You still owe cap gains if you don't renounce and just expat. Unless you plan on just hiding and never setting foot in US again nor using any international banks cooperating with FinCen rules.

Puerto Rico offers tax free cap gains for residents, but you still owe on any gains realized up to the date you become a resident.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2017/02/27/renounce-u-s-heres-how-irs-computes-exit-tax/#45c8627287d4

No, I actually haven't heard of the exit tax. It does make sense to some degree, or at least it would if taxes were legitimate in the first place. But regardless of whether or not you'd choose to pay what you "owe" before renouncing, it still doesn't sound like anyone who expects any significant profits should be staying in the US any longer than absolutely necessary for whatever individual circumstances.

Agreed. However, I'm suspecting you're not married or have many close family relations in the US? The moment I brought up renouncing to my wife, and that she would need to apply for visas to visit family, friends, etc., well... you can imagine the response. Although she's warming up to it proportionally to crypto value.

Which begs the question, how much is US citizenship worth? A US passport gets you in a lot of places without visas or trouble. Attaining citizenship in another country takes time and often a good deal of (traceable, taxable) fiat. Although being stateless is an option, it's not recommended for long. You have no rights, anywhere.




I think you can buy New Zealand citizenship and that will get you anywhere US citizenship will.  You can go buy mountain in Queenstown with all the hedge fund billionaires.

New Zealand is a very nice place to live. Come on down.
https://www.newzealandnow.govt.nz/investing-in-nz/visas/investor-visa

What's the weather like in NZ?
3374  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 22, 2017, 04:40:37 PM
LOL banks are closed for 4 days, people cant wire money to buy the dip....well played Cool

That only leaves Jimbo Toronto's favored buying option of stuffing cash into Bitcoin ATMs, and they will probably soon be too full of cash to accept any more.

No it doesn't. Over here you can use Swish 24/7 for immediate bank transfers, no fee, and btcx.se is open  24/7 and accepts Swish. That's usually where I buy now that the buy option on Blockchain.info is disabled.
3375  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 22, 2017, 04:35:53 PM
What about the $110 tr fee?

I just bought and the fee was 26 ish USD.
3376  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 22, 2017, 04:02:24 PM
Breaking 24777$ prediction game


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Thanks for the prediction game fun!
I'll take:

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3377  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 09:38:22 PM
My designs for a new dartboard and punchbag for in the games room.
What do you guys think?
https://i.imgur.com/WUR8Ne8.jpg

If I were one of those cliché, unstable movie-trope characters, I might imagine using their photos as paper targets, while practicing on the range.

My next house will have an indoor range, and I already have some photos selected for future target practice.
3378  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2017, 11:56:38 AM
Well, it's finally here. This is is truly the beginning of the end. And I'm serious. Wall street will put this thing out of its misery once and for all. We'll see 10k before the end of the year for sure. 2018 will be a horror show back below 1k. 2019 will be the year the world tries to figure out just what the hell happened. 2020 the world moves on and bitcoin becomes a memory.

Quoting for reference.

I can actually see 10k happening, but it would be a flash crash before a cash grab back up.

So...bullish?
3379  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
Alright, so it's clear that bitcoins future trading at CME will be rolling out in approximately 3 hours and 5 minutes from now. Things are going to get interesting, I don't know why but I'm sensing $22k-$25k within first couple of hours. CBOE is nothing like CME, CME has a much larger volume than CBOE. So we can go more wilder than before.

http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equity-index/us-index/bitcoin_contract_specifications.html

Are they cash settled as well? If they are I don't think it will move the market at all.
3380  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2017, 05:00:41 PM
Oh yeah, and bitcoin down 600 USD on Stamp.
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