Holy shit, we have Merit and sMerit now? How do we pump this?  I tried to merit you that comment. But I'm out of merit points. Is there a shop? What is that and how does it work? |
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Ok I checked here and you can move your phone number to another phone company, but they will send you a new sim card with the number. So no magic online stuff. Would that not be a good way to get rid of the scamming in the rest of the world.
The number is being rerouted to a new sim, I don't see how this protects you. Most countries have signed up to mobile number porting, and the switch will be done on a back-end database. They will physically send you a new sim with your old number. So even if someone else somehow get hold of your digital bank ID and manages to move you to another phone company that company will send the new sim with your old number to you physically trough the royal Swedish mail, (or one of their private competitors). |
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In my country they have declare war against crypto. They won't win.. but make us loose so many money/time. Not only my born country (france) but all western europe is in war against crypto.
So.. fuck them !
(I don't live their anymore, but you know, your born country will be always in your heart).
I disagree, at least in Scandinavia there is no war against crypto. Exchanges must follow KYC and all that, and you must pay capital gains tax, but thats normal for all asset trading. Moving in and out of crypto is also easy, a lot easier than in the US. SEPA, or in Sweden, Swish, is a lot easier and cheaper than the wire transfer used in the US. Small scale mining isn't even taxed in Sweden, it's considered a hobby with no taxable income. |
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Apology accepted. All good.
I don't get it, how can they move a mobile phone number? Where I live the number is locked to the sim card. If you want to move your number to another phone you would have to physically move the sim card to that phone. There is no other way.
In most of the world it's possible to transfer a phone number to a different sim card. There's a few scams that use the technique, and most people aren't aware of them https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/technology/phone-number-porting-scam-grows-in-australia-with-thousands-of-dollars-stolen-from-victims/news-story/6dc83c76543b5888b12a10790b9ee209Gold Coast businesswoman Cynthia Dammerer discovered she had been targeted by criminals after her mobile phone mysteriously went out of service after 9pm one night.
While she initially thought her phone network was down, she later discovered the fraudsters had also broken into her email account and tried to change her password.
“I called Telstra and they said I had moved my number over to Vodafone and I’d have to go into a store to sort it out,” she said. “I had no idea.”
Ms Dammerer said scammers had moved her phone number to an untraceable Vodafone prepaid account so it could be used to verify bank account transactions, and potentially create new accounts.
“They did it all online,” she said. “They didn’t even have to go into a shop. Ok I checked here and you can move your phone number to another phone company, but they will send you a new sim card with the number. So no magic online stuff. Would that not be a good way to get rid of the scamming in the rest of the world. |
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Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt that the Chinese put all kinds of trackers on their phones, primarily to keep tabs on their own people, but of course also spilling over to us roundeyes when we purchase a phone from them.
I just don't think those trackers have any consequences for me when I sweep my keys. That's why I asked for examples, If I'm proved wrong I would have to reexamine my position.
OK, If I overstated your position I apologize for that, and yes, I was unnecessarily dickish in the post that lit all this off, sorry. If you are only using a phone to sweep a few bucks worth of forks out of addresses ALREADY EMPTIED of BTC (and actually I would say BCH depending on the balance) I guess the convenience may be worth the risk. As far as examples, absence of proof is not proof of absence, phones get hacked all the time. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/21/business/dealbook/phone-hack-bitcoin-virtual-currency.htmlApology accepted. All good. I don't get it, how can they move a mobile phone number? Where I live the number is locked to the sim card. If you want to move your number to another phone you would have to physically move the sim card to that phone. There is no other way. |
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And as you might recall, that phone is stored in a Faraday cage.
Nothing spells prepped for doomsday more than a European guy walking around with a cell phone trying to spend bitcoins in a post-industrial civilization among an ocean of Islamic rapists. A cellphone and a Glock. |
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Phones are, by their very nature, insecure, and making posts on a venue such as this suggesting that exposing private keys on a phone is safe borders on irresponsible.
Random Anecdote: I know some people that work at a huge San Fran social media company, and every time their employees go to China on business, they are prohibited from bringing their office-issued Android devices - Are issued locked-down iPhones instead for travel purposes. Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt that the Chinese put all kinds of trackers on their phones, primarily to keep tabs on their own people, but of course also spilling over to us roundeyes when we purchase a phone from them. I just don't think those trackers have any consequences for me when I sweep my keys. That's why I asked for examples, If I'm proved wrong I would have to reexamine my position. |
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as in"he doesn't know he is signing when he makes a transaction".
which is precisely how I interpreted that interaction Look Arrie, I don't want to be in a pissing match here, but you have repeatedly made light of keeping BTC on smartphones and I am sorry, but that is not good practice. Phones are, by their very nature, insecure, and making posts on a venue such as this suggesting that exposing private keys on a phone is safe borders on being irresponsible. The original question wasn't about keeping coins, it was about claiming forks, and the only way to claim all of the forks is, to the best of my knowledge, to use a phone, and to use a phone you have to scan your private keys. I did't say that he should store them on the device. I do however store some of my coins on a ofline phone, and I still believe that it is safe enough. And as you might recall, that phone is stored in a Faraday cage. |
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With all the people signing up daily across the exchanges, how can this bull run not continue? They had 240,000 people sign up for Binance in 1 hour last week. The demand is there.
They are not necessarily buying BTC on those exchanges. But I think we are about to see the end of this correction pretty soon. The peak was higher than normal so it's just natural that the correction is deeper than normal for January. Add to that the bitconnect people selling a huge amount of money and people being just out of money after christmas. Now payday is coming and the BCC dumping should be over soon, that ought to put us on the rise again. The futures I don't think has an effect on the price, low volume and cash settled. |
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That is taken out of context, I was talking about ofline signing. And I have never done any ofline signing. You claimed that I never sign, as in"he doesn't know he is signing when he makes a transaction". |
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Don't be an asshole.
Don't mock people's security concerns and we have a deal. So I have to stop airing my opinion for you to stop lying about me. Is that a correct understanding of your proposal? I would formulate it as refrain from opining on matters you admit you don't understand and I will not be forced to confront you on it You are not "confronting" you are outright lying. Show me the post where I said what you claim I said, or admit that you are a lier. Furthermore, you never answer any questions, you just move the goalposts and give a slightly related "answer". When asked to give an example of someone who's coins had been compromised by the Chinese firmware/viruses mentioned, you never answered, but instead started talking about a totally different type of malware ie keyloggers, something never mentioned in the article and never disputed by me. When asked to show the post where I stated I never sign transactions you instead started talking about my right to air my opinion. You are dishonest in your debating and constantly trying to weasel your way out of a question you know you can't answer by giving an "answer" not related to the question or "answering" with a question. |
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Don't be an asshole.
Don't mock people's security concerns and we have a deal. So I have to stop airing my opinion for you to stop lying about me. Is that a correct understanding of your proposal? |
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Why not just get a Trezor for about twice the cost?
Can you download Coinomi, Bither and Bitpie and then claim your forks on a Trezor? SatoshiLabs has to first add Trezor support for the new forked coins, as they have with past forks such as BCash and BitcoinGold. But once they have done that, you should be able to claim and send your forked coins anywhere you wish. They have rules around what Bitcoin forks they will support though: https://trezor.io/troubleshooter/#103Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have. With a phone I choose what to claim and not. You still control your private keys. Anything they do is a gift. You can move your coins to another HD Wallet and then sweep the Bitcorn Blast off the old addresses just like you could with any other wallet. Or import the old keys into your phone etc. But whats the point? I can do that with a paper wallet and a phone at a fraction of the cost. |
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Why not just get a Trezor for about twice the cost?
Can you download Coinomi, Bither and Bitpie and then claim your forks on a Trezor? SatoshiLabs has to first add Trezor support for the new forked coins, as they have with past forks such as BCash and BitcoinGold. But once they have done that, you should be able to claim and send your forked coins anywhere you wish. They have rules around what Bitcoin forks they will support though: https://trezor.io/troubleshooter/#103Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have. With a phone I choose what to claim and not. You still control your private keys. Anything they do is a gift. You can move your coins to another HD Wallet and then sweep the Bitcorn Blast off the old addresses just like you could with any other wallet. Or import the old keys into your phone etc. Don't bother, Arries understanding of the underlying technology is spotty at best. A couple weeks ago he was claiming that he never signed his transactions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GxFbw57dVUNo I did not, I said I didn't understand signing. I know that it somehow takes place when you do a normal transaction, and that you somehow can do it ofline as well. I just don't understand how it works. I dare you to show me and everybody else the post where I stated that I never sign my transactions. Don't be an asshole. EDIT: Maybe dare is the wrong word, challenge might be better? English is not my first language, sorry. |
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Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have.
With a phone I choose what to claim and not.
You go with that lack of replay protection, booooyyyiii !! As far as I know, all the forks have replay protection. I would never touch a fork without replay protection.  I'd like to choose what I drink. |
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Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have.
With a phone I choose what to claim and not.
You go with that lack of replay protection, booooyyyiii !! As far as I know, all the forks have replay protection. I would never touch a fork without replay protection. |
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The last thing you want your smartphone doing is sending your text messages, contacts, and location history to a server in China. But according to mobile security firm Kryptowire, a particularly nasty brand of Android software did just that, transmitting text, data, call, location, and app data to a Chinese server every 72 hours.
Researchers began to raise red flags last fall, when it was discovered the the data mining tool in question — called Adups — had been living inside hundreds of millions of devices produced by more than 40 manufacturers
There are other viruses pre-installed in some android phones besides the one in that story.
So what? Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies. An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting," You, sir, deserve what is coming to you. Please stop making light of security, there are noobs that read this thread, you could do real harm to others, not just yourself. A n00b buying a phone, not installing anything but the apps necessary to claim the forks (after of course first moving his bitcoins to a new wallet), using only free wifi to do so, and then immediately moving his coins to a new wallet or an exchange will be perfectly fine. |
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Why not just get a Trezor for about twice the cost?
Can you download Coinomi, Bither and Bitpie and then claim your forks on a Trezor? SatoshiLabs has to first add Trezor support for the new forked coins, as they have with past forks such as BCash and BitcoinGold. But once they have done that, you should be able to claim and send your forked coins anywhere you wish. They have rules around what Bitcoin forks they will support though: https://trezor.io/troubleshooter/#103Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have. With a phone I choose what to claim and not. |
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Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting,"
Do you want to store private keys, and/or enter passwords on a compromised device which may have a keylogger etc? I would, at the very least, want to make sure I could flash this device with LineageOS or something, though this would not mitagate every single OpSec issue... And there was the "walking backwards", now give me an example. |
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Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting,"
Do you want to store private keys, and/or enter passwords on a compromised device which may have a keylogger etc? I would, at the very least, want to make sure I could flash this device with LineageOS or something, though this would not mitagate every single OpSec issue... Why not just get a Trezor for about twice the cost? Can you download Coinomi, Bither and Bitpie and then claim your forks on a Trezor? |
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