I have a 6-core Mac Pro running OSX 10.6.4. I started the client with the -4way switch which is supposed to make it twice as fast (or half as fast if your processor doesn't have that feature), but it's still getting about 6khash/s.
I changed into the right directory and started it with:
$ ./bitcoin -4way &
What am I doing wrong?
Nothing. Probably the bitcoin's implementation of 4-way SSE simply does not support Your processor. 1. Make sure Your processor actually supports it 2. File a bug (do we have a bug tracking system yet ?) |
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Actually as far as i understand currency calculations, [all bitcoins in existence] x [current exchange USD] != [total value of all bitcoins in USD]. So the whole market is probably worth less than 1.000.000 USD, but i have no idea how much exactly. How does one calculate such things ? |
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Going back to the topic: yeah the bitcoin.org servers seem overloaded by traffic.
Satoshi should invest in better servers soon or there could be a problem.
With the amounts of bitcoins he has, that shouldn't be an issue.
Sorry Shadow, but this seems a bit naive. How do you know it's not a killer server generating coins at the same time? As an open source project, the community should contribute to a server if it is needed. In all reality, this is probably simply hosted on shared hosting for a minuscule dollar amount. If bitcoin.org needs faster / better server for hosting, let me know and I'll gladly toss it up. Hey, that's even better. But i just thought that only satoshi runs this server, so nobody else has access to do such thing. |
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Especially insulting when you write a post - you press send and nothing happens. You may lose the message text
BTW. You can use this firefox extension to recover any form (and any post) You lost due to connection failure. It's pretty cool. Going back to the topic: yeah the bitcoin.org servers seem overloaded by traffic. Satoshi should invest in better servers soon or there could be a problem. With the amounts of bitcoins he has, that shouldn't be an issue. |
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still no coinage  must be uber unlucky On what hardware ? |
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Thanks guys, for all your advice. I have just made the changes to the license CC-Attribution. As a token of appreciation to all you guys, I have made available the wallet graphics which I just completed as well.
OK, I re-license all of my modifications on the same license (if necessary). Effective immediately. I will also modify the wallet image so that it has bigger "B", just give me some time. EDIT: Not necessary, actually. |
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I will say the same as in the previous deflation-related topic:
Currency inflation encourages both wise investments and stupid investments, while currency deflation encourages only smart investments.
With deflating currency it is not beneficial to take big risks while one can earn more with just keeping money in his socks.
The question is: is that good or bad ? I personally think it is good, because :
1. If people stop doing stupid investments, there will be less of poor people.
2. People will be able to get richer just by keeping money in a safe. So anybody can invest easily, poor & stupid people too.
3. Less stupid investments = less financial crisises.
So the conclusion is that difference between rich and poor will decrease. Everyone will get richer. Deflationary economy IMHO should be more stable than inflationary economy.
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bitcoin is also about complete independence from anything else than network consensus
You completely missed the point. Hardcoded security checkpoints are part of the consensus. Consensus is created & confirmed simply by people's usage of satoshi's client. If we wouldn't like that consensus, we would find ourself a different, forked consensus. If I had craploads of CPU I'd generate + collect tx fees my friend =).
I wouldn't try to break something as fascinating as bitcoin !
And i have no reason to trust & believe either you, or the topic starter. |
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Feel free to use it as good luck charm for your commerce website.  with Left paw raised. Cheers. LOL, this is cute. BTW, bitboy - are You japanese by the way ? |
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What I see as a feature is what some people see as a vulnerability : the fact that someone could make a longer block chain by overpowering the network in massive proportions, but that's very very very unlikely to happen.
Are you serious about this at all ? Because no serious financial institution would ever use a currency with such "feature". Currency must be stable by design. The more stable & predictable it is, the better. This is the exact reasons for hard-coded block chain locks in bitcoin client. |
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No block chain would ever be lost as long as at least a client holds it.
and how do you know for sure that its a *good chain* and not one of lots *a/b/c-sub-chains* that your connected to, if the client you just downloaded doesnt have that *checkpoint-feature*? Because it's peer-to-peer, you connect to multiple other nodes, each one of which will send you info about the chain they see as valid, your client picks the longest, simple and beautiful =) The problem is that without proper security, somebody with mega-super-duper computing power could make a longer, fake chain, and Your app could accept it. And bitcoin is all about the security, because (i think) it will get serious soon, and we want it to be seen as serious currency. If you want, you can make your own client, and then hard-code some checkpoints for **your** own main chain in **your** client. Or not. Whatever. |
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So you're not going to tell us what you will do with the bitcoins?
Surely he's going to spend everything on sex, drugs & rock-and-roll. BTW, Don't hookers accept bitcoin yet ?  |
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No, please be serious guys.
This logo is just horrible. Not to say it looks lame & unprofessional. Sorry to the author, but this is the truth.
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Sorry, i totally don't like it. It is just bad.
But that's just my opinion.
PS.
Vote, anybody ?
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I was probably a member of the open source community before you were born.
I'm not freaking out.
These are legitimate questions when you're dealing with a project controlling the equivalent of over .5M Euro and aspiring for billions.
A handful of active developers can be corrupted.
These dodging answers are not encouraging me to think that this hasn't already happened.
I was starting this investigation to decide whether to invest big money in bitcoin.
Fat chance.
1. Because you are not asking correct questions, so You will never receive the answers You are seeking. Learn to articulate your wishes without spreading unnecessary FUD. 2. Most of us here are not BTC developers, just random geeks. If You have a serious question, then either: a) Go ask the developers on IRC OR b) Release a patch OR c) Release a fork 3. You haven't even properly explained your stance in technical details, or proposed a patch. You expect serious answers without being serious Yourself. |
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The linux kernel is made by lots of smart people, that didn't make it free from any vulnerabilities.
Of course, but these are accidental vulnerabilities. I meant putting vulnerabilities on purpose. Vulnerabilities like this are usually easily detectable. |
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Since, in my understanding, the protocol itself does not allow any other vulnerability than "beat me up with boatloads of CPU power" (which in my opinion is a feature, not a vulnerability) such an extra unneeded lock-up seems kindof suspicious.
So I'm still waiting for a sensible explanation; if the protocol is as secure as I think it is, the lock is not needed. If the protocol is not that secure, then some exploit needs to get published and the protocol fixed.
Publishing an open source app with an exploit in source ? That would be foolish. I don't think Satoshi is stupid. After all, he invented bitcoin. Sooner or later somebody would find the exploit easily. A lot of hackers & programmers have invested their time in this code (and as people invest a lot of money in bitcoin, they will surely do full code review), so it is highly improbable that somebody wouldn't find the exploit by accident. |
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I'm suggesting we reach "some other consensus", as you say,
and make bitcoin all it promises to be.
As soon as I have a few minutes I promise to post the details here.
And why would be your "consensus" any better than the consensus we have now ? I seriously doubt You are going to achieve anything here. Also, i think You are either spreading FUD around to make BTC weaker or you are some kind of scammer. For the record, if you are looking for stupid people that can be easily influenced, You are not going to find many of them here. If you have a suggestion how bitcoin could be made better, just join the bitcoin IRC or post a patch somewhere. If you don't like bitcoin the way it is now, start a fork and encourage people to use Your version - that's really simple. |
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Are you willing to bet your wallet on that?
Let's remove it then!
Clearly I am willing to bet my Bitcoin balance on the security of the system. Feel free to make a different version with stupid rules. No one will use it. And what if I make a different version with better rules? Will you use it? You are talking jibberish man. If you can make a longer chain and break bitcoin, prove it. |
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you will not accept it, because "they" dictate your block chain.
I don't think You get the whole concept of open source properly. In open source there is no "they", no entity that you could say "runs" the buisness. Open source is governed by consensus of programmers, hackers, mathematicans & other geeky people involved in the project. If one day satoshi says "ok guys, it was just a joke with this bitcoin thing, i'm closing down the project", then we (the hackers) would simply fork the code, move to another forum, and pick up where we left here. Bitcoin would stay as it was or in a little modified form. There is no single mastermind in Open Source. It's more of a brain where a single human is just a cell. Also, bitcoin works as it works and has the block chain it has, because people involved with the project want it. If somebody doesn't like it, he can start his own project. ---- EDIT:Also, if you don't like what we are doing with the bitcoin or block chain, then start your own fork of bitcoin. Nobody forbids it. |
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