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1501  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you see MtGox (objective/neutral, not rigged poll) on: March 05, 2011, 04:02:55 PM
How do you like it now ?

Please propose better/more objective options, I'm out of ideas.
1502  Economy / Marketplace / Re: In Gox we trust on: March 05, 2011, 03:52:56 PM
I have created a new, neutral & approximately objective poll.

Come and vote now:
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4161.0
1503  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you see MtGox (objective, not rigged poll) on: March 05, 2011, 03:48:29 PM
Yeah, added it now.
For some weird reason, i could not add it outright.
1504  Economy / Marketplace / How do you see MtGox (objective/neutral, not rigged poll) on: March 05, 2011, 03:43:07 PM
This is a new, better poll created because the previous one was ridiculously rigged:
( See http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4065.msg60298#msg60298 )

The questions are balanced so there is the same number of negative and positive answers.
1505  Economy / Marketplace / Re: In Gox we trust on: March 05, 2011, 03:40:10 PM
Its not mt gox's trustworthiness we should be questioning imo.
In my mind this thread is largely a reaffirmation of trust--just look at the poll.

I agree.

I wonder if you worded it the same but replaced mt gox with other agents in the drama what the result would be ....

Not saying anything good or bad about mtgox. But disagree with you.

The poll is rigged which should be obvious to anyone  having English reading comprehension on level of a 12 years old or better.

(...)

This is one for those who managed to actually read and understand the choices, and see how rigged the poll is. Unless they moved on in disgust before getting to this one.

OP:  Dr. Goebbels would be proud.

You are correct, the poll is ridicuously rigged.
Manipulation to the extreme.

I will start a new, better poll.
1506  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Bounty Paid!] Go to Wall St in Front of N.Y. Stock Exchange on: March 05, 2011, 10:01:10 AM
billions of people on this planet are vegetarian

[citation needed]

Were you serious or that was some kind of sarcasm ?

http://www.hinduonnet.com/2006/08/14/stories/2006081403771200.htm

40% of india, unless you count eggs as meat, than it's 31%.


http://www.google.com/search?q=population%20of%20india shows 1.155 billion, so 358 - 462 million in India alone.  Billions might be an exaggeration, but it's probably not too far from 1 billion.

Not too far from 1 billion is very far from "billions". So my point stands.
There is not so much vegetarians in the world as one would think.

Also, check out the wikipedia article. A lot of vegetarians don't eat meat from financial reasons, not ideological.

So there is even less "true" vegetarians out there.
1507  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Bounty Paid!] Go to Wall St in Front of N.Y. Stock Exchange on: March 04, 2011, 11:00:12 PM
billions of people on this planet are vegetarian

[citation needed]

Were you serious or that was some kind of sarcasm ?
1508  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: March 04, 2011, 07:53:21 PM
Sorry the ShadowofHarbringer did it again >  http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4065.msg59596#msg59596

Nope, i did not.
Read my reply please.
1509  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Bounty Paid!] Go to Wall St in Front of N.Y. Stock Exchange on: March 04, 2011, 07:12:19 PM
BTC sent.
1510  Economy / Marketplace / Re: In Gox we trust on: March 04, 2011, 06:32:21 PM
I had promised not to make another post in the other thread until you called me an alter ego again....   Thanks Now I can continue....

Hey, I wasn't and I am not saying that you are Baron anymore, you misunderstood.

I just commented what happened before...
1511  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: March 04, 2011, 03:09:24 PM
I not going to discuss any more, because it's pointless.

I will post overview and what action I am gonna to take very soon.

(...)

ShadowOfHarbringer: you fucking idiot or you are kid. no one force you to read this thread, You posting your stupid posts for fun only. I am not nigerian, nigerians selling black money to stupid peoples.  So go away and stop flooding this thread.


OK, so.

1) Go to court/police.
2) STFU
3) GTFO

And don't forget to post scans of the papers you send/receive from/to court/police.
Because there is no other way I am gonna believe a word of what you are saying...

EDIT:
Actually, that is not enough. I need to see mtgox saying here that he was called to court.
Otherwise, everything you say is worth less than donkey shit to me.
1512  Economy / Marketplace / Re: The "Why We Trust Mt. Gox" thread on: March 04, 2011, 03:02:23 PM
Why so serious ?

Because you're completely out of line. Arbitrarily denouncing people like you and some others have done is, in my view, extremely poor behaviour.

Perhaps it is, but "bad behavior" is certainly much better option than being manipulated by alter ego of some Nigerian scammer.

First, they manipulate you.
Second, they steal your money.

So i think that "bad behavior" is low price for detecting lies & scammers. I couldn't have done that without little psychology & white-hat sociotechnics.

1513  Economy / Marketplace / Re: The "Why We Trust Mt. Gox" thread on: March 03, 2011, 08:08:12 PM

I would advise everybody to be VERY CAREFUL when discussing with wb3.
He registered just today, and many of his posts are in mtgox-related threads.

He is highly likely to be Baron's alter ego. If that is the case, he will be manipulating everybody to lower their trust in mtgox.


Witch! Witch! Burn the witch!

These are serious accusations in a community built on trust. I hope you have more to back that up than a half-assed hunch.

Why so serious ?

1514  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: March 03, 2011, 10:55:53 AM
I am not Thief. mtgox.com is lying to you .mtgox.com saying that I hacked his website and add money to my mtgox.com account, but it's not true. I deposited money using liberty reserve account.

My liberty reserve history:
01/07/2011 02:12    52722343       U8227430 (xMtGox)    - $28,616.00    $0.00    $0.61    Hide Merchant Reference: 1336    Memo: MtGox.com Funding
01/07/2011 02:12    52722317       U8227430 (xMtGox)    - $30,000.00    $0.00    $28,616.61    Hide Merchant Reference: 1336    Memo: MtGox.com Funding
01/07/2011 01:51    52721818       U8227430 (xMtGox)    - $16,000.00    $0.00    $58,616.61    Hide Merchant Reference: 1336    Memo: MtGox.com Funding


He did not show any evidences.

How you must be stupid ,to believe in man(mtgox.com) who don't shows evidences? Don't goes to police, and don't giving me his contacts?

He stole that money from me, and now moving to new server to hide evidences (servers logs and etc )!

I repeat: I sent my ID scan to mtgox.com. Other ID documents I am ready to send when he goes to police!



And Yes I have that fucking  mute disorder, so I can't talk on phone with him. I requested from him to give me his skype nick to talk online, he refuses!  

Until now I don't received from him any his contacts. I asked him 2 times.  So what fuck he is hiding? But there is not problem, I will get his contacts in other ways.

TheKoziTwo write: TheKoziTwo: I checked the IRC logs. There is nothing in there about this trade.  
There may be that IRC servers not loging private chats.

That cheap sociotechnics of yours might work on somebody, but they will not work on me.
I am very good on detecting manipulation and you are a manipulative lying bastard.

If you don't like it, shut up & go to court. But of course you won't because you're nothing more than nigerian-style scammer bitch.

----
This thread should be closed anyway, so you cannot cause any more havoc & decrease people's trust in mtgox's.

1515  Economy / Marketplace / Re: In Gox we trust on: March 03, 2011, 01:30:01 AM
Ive done a few transactions with mt gox with no problems and he is always responsive.

Its not mot gox I am worried about its the fear that bitcoin itself will be targeted and the exchanges will be the first target - egold is one example.

They tried to shut down P2P technologies (bittorrent) before and they failed.
If they start shutting down exchanges, we either move to other countries, or we will use web of trust - based exchanges.

P2P is the only thing that they cannot control at all (yet). It is like a hydra. When you cut one head, 3 new grow in its place.

Does anybody still doubt that we are witnessing an ongoing revolution thanks to the Internet ? Perhaps even the largest in the history of mankind.
We must not let Internet be harmed and controlled by governments, and we will be victorious.

I think that (in large part due to Bitcoin existence) free thinking & real, total personal freedom may rule the world soon.
1516  Economy / Marketplace / Re: In Gox we trust on: March 03, 2011, 01:16:47 AM
woah, so Jed is of the eDonkey fame? motherfucking hero. I remember that software being the centre piece of my life as a kid.

Seriously ? I had no idea.
This is an awesome thing.
1517  Economy / Marketplace / Re: In Gox we trust on: March 03, 2011, 01:01:53 AM
I think Jed is a good, honest administrator. He's eaten a lot of costs, even though he probably makes very little money from the site. However, I have never trusted the software or concept of MtGox, and I will never store loads of money there.

The only place i will ever store large number of Bitcoins are the encrypted hard drives of my built-from-source-Linux comp behind 2 firewalls, sandboxes & virtual machines.
I will not trust any exchanger or bank to keep my money for too long.

But merchants are useful for trading & mixing coins though.
1518  Economy / Marketplace / Re: In Gox we trust on: March 03, 2011, 12:28:34 AM
Scammer I am not.

Let's assume that you are not for now, but i will be watching you.

Closely.

Hopefully your a girl, then.  Hate to think some dude is "Watching" me.  

I must say at least this forum is pretty active and lively with a little paranoia tossed in to make it interesting.

Money for Nothing and your chicks for free,  whole new meaning.

Hahaha good, good :]
I am now certain that you are not Baron.
1519  Economy / Marketplace / Re: In Gox we trust on: March 03, 2011, 12:10:56 AM
Scammer I am not.

Let's assume that you are not for now, but i will be watching you.

Closely.
1520  Economy / Marketplace / Re: The "Why We Trust Mt. Gox" thread on: March 02, 2011, 11:59:48 PM
Hmmmm.... Talking almost as if you knew him, you are.
Suspicious it is, indeed.
Shadow, please give up this witch hunt. There's no evidence to show that wb3 and Baron are related in any way, and I don't think constant accusations are going to do the Bitcoin community any good.

Please, please stop this behavior. It's not helping anybody.

Oh, don't worry i am just having some fun Smiley
OK, enough.
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