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Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: More divisibility required - move the decimal point
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on: February 11, 2011, 07:35:04 PM
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That's an interesting proposal, but I have one strong argument against it: the mixing of a three-order of magnitude scale (1 bitcent = 10^3 millicents = 10^6 microcents) with a two-order scale (1 bitcoin = 100 bitcent) is almost guaranteed to lead to confusion down the road.
Well, i had other proposals. 1 BTCX0 = 1 BTC 1 BTCX1 = 0.1 BTC 1 BTCX2 = 0.01 BTC 1 BTCX3 = 0.001 BTC 1 BTCX4 = 0.0001 BTC
or 1 BTCA = 0.1 BTC 1 BTCB = 0.01 BTC 1 BTCC = 0.001 BTC 1 BTCD = 0.0001 BTC
or 1 BTC-0 = 1 BTC 1 BTC-1 = 0.1 BTC 1 BTC-2 = 0.01 BTC 1 BTC-3 = 0.001 BTC 1 BTC-4 = 0.0001 BTC
...and variations of above. Yeah i agree - it's not very good looking, but I think it's the most intuitive and probably one of the most logical solutions. Using it we can avoid a lot of mess.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox account compromised
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on: February 11, 2011, 06:44:50 PM
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Maybe you should contact mtgox before spreading FUD like this. It is all documented in the API page, requires a POST (not very clean but well...) to be sent and the path is encrypted. These are security basics...
And you seem not to have a clue about them Because you seem to have said so of course... FYI, i would NEVER EVER put something like this in URL, because just from the looks of it it's scary as hell. FYI-2 i know "something" about security, but i have no need to explain myself to you.
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Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Anonymity
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on: February 11, 2011, 06:42:38 PM
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Actually, there is a problem. Today Nokia announced that they're abandoning open source for Windows Mobile 7.
Really ? WOW, what a misfire... WM7 will soon be a dying platform, before it even took off... Open Source RLZ, apparently
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Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can viruses steal people's bitcoin purses? What can be done for protection?
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on: February 11, 2011, 06:41:11 PM
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I have to admit I'm not completely up to speed on this stuff, but if a bitcoin is just a private key, then it should be easy in theory to make your wallet write-only and redirect it to a printer or some type of write-only media. That way whenever you receive a bitcoin it is safely stored away, and an attacker would have to setup some kind of monitoring and wait for new ones.
Why so difficult ? It is very easy to set up a 20-line max shell script or PHP script that will do exactly the same - send money to another wallet.
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Other / Off-topic / Re: Is the World Run By Conspiracy or Stand Alone Complex
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on: February 11, 2011, 05:40:22 AM
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I think logical reasoning can help here...
Money gives power => More money = more power => People who have most money are the most powerful => People who make money, have absolute power =>
Conclusion #1: We're most likely ruled by Bankers.
Power corrupts => More power corrupts even more => Absolute power corrupts absolutely =>
Conclusion #2: We're most likely ruled by very corrupt people.
Conclusion #1 + Conclusion #2 = We are probably ruled by evil and ultimately currupted banker motherfuckers. (Which by the way plays very well with what the american founding fathers said about banks)
EDIT: And because 98% of people has even no idea how the banking system works, there has to be some kind of conspiracy to keep the masses from understanding that.
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Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bounty for Bitcoin Animated Movie [13622.05 BTC ($2520) and growing]
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on: February 11, 2011, 02:47:38 AM
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Name: bytemaster Posts: 132 (0.667 per day) Respect: 0 Position: Full Member Date Registered: July 27, 2010, 04:02 pm Last Active: January 21, 2011, 06:41 am
How do we know that the bounty is safe and the person who started this didn't run away ? Bytemaster has a nasty habit of disappearing every few weeks... Doesn't exactly look trustworthy to me. This thread stinks of fraud.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bit coin legal in the US?
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on: February 10, 2011, 09:59:16 PM
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Land of the free, he he he. Of course. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.
Also: Libertarianism is terrorism. Please wait comfortably in your chair, Though Police™ will be at your place in few minutes...
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin - how to protect its value
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on: February 10, 2011, 09:47:29 PM
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you can create any number of Bitcoin clones and they are just as good as original Bitcoin.
Yes, but any of the clones will not have the same trust and good publicity as the original one. Less trust = less value. What your saying is very similiar to " What would happen if i mixed some chemicals (or manipulated matter at subatomic level) and produced something that looks, smells like gold and has every other property of gold". Nothing special would happen. Depending of how scarce is the thing you are producing, and how easy is it to produce more, it would have bigger or smaller value. The harder is to produce a thing = the more scarce that thing is == the more value the thing has. Also if it is easy to divise, shape and carry, then it can be used as a currency. This rule works with everything.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will bitcoin be the next Tulip Mania?
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on: February 10, 2011, 08:44:33 PM
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The exchange rate needs backing value to be real.
Just out of curiosity. Can a currency be backed mostly or completely by another currency ? Has anything like that ever happened in history ? I don't know, I'm seriously asking a question - this is not sarcasm or anything. I dont understand fully, but I've read that several other countries back their currency with the US dollar. So it is possible for a currency to be strong without the need for a lot of goods to be traded with it ?
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The site got slashdotted again ! Better servers needed.
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on: February 10, 2011, 08:33:52 PM
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Redirected bitcoin.org to bitcoin.it, at least the forum works now. For some reason this server was very slow even though only 50% mem and 5% cpu usage.
Sirius: I'm an author of a PHP Open Source project dedicated to optimizing sites against "Slashdot/Digg effects" (well it's not directly for that but that's a positive side effect). Contact me if you are interested in speeding up the site dramatically.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: when all bitcoins are mined, then what
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on: February 10, 2011, 07:51:32 PM
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When all bitcoins are mined, why would people set their computer to do computational work required in the p2p network?
When all bitcoins are mined, then the big miners will probably move out of the market (if the transaction fees won't be large enough). If big GPU/clusters miners move out, then difficulty will drop so much, that you willl be able to generate blocks easily using a single multicore CPU. Are bitcoin owners required to pay transaction fees in the future to reward for this?
Not necessarily. If they won't be paying, and big miners exit market, then it will be very easy to generate blocks. I think the market will self-balance automatically, and determine the best transaction fee.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will bitcoin be the next Tulip Mania?
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on: February 10, 2011, 07:15:17 PM
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The exchange rate needs backing value to be real.
Just out of curiosity. Can a currency be backed mostly or completely by another currency ? Has anything like that ever happened in history ? I don't know, I'm seriously asking a question - this is not sarcasm or anything. Gold was being used as a currency then FRN were created and backed by that currency, (...) Does that count? And now some nations currency are backed by FRNs. I am not sure, but i guess yeah. However that wasn't "clean case", because FRNs were also "legal tender" so that kind of adds purchasing power the the currency.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will bitcoin be the next Tulip Mania?
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on: February 10, 2011, 06:54:07 PM
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The exchange rate needs backing value to be real.
Just out of curiosity. Can a currency be backed mostly or completely by another currency ? Has anything like that ever happened in history ? I don't know, I'm seriously asking a question - this is not sarcasm or anything.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will bitcoin be the next Tulip Mania?
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on: February 10, 2011, 03:25:42 PM
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Here is an interesting article about the Tulip Mania of 1637. http://mises.org/daily/2564The explanation essentially comes down to the idea that in 17th century Netherlands there was a relative free market in money, which causes lots of money to flow into the Netherlands, causing a mania. Assuming the Austrian school explanation of the Tulip Mania is the correct one, are there any parallels with the Bitcoin Mania of 2011? I think that smaller or bigger versions of "tulip manias" are happening a lot on Bitcoin market - it's simple matter of overspeculation. But complete destruction of currency is not likely to happen as with the tulips. I mean even if Bitcoin's value drops 10 - fold due to enormously massive overspeculation, it will still be a usable currency. It will still have all the means to be a currency and drop in value is not going to change that.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin May Be Doomed
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on: February 10, 2011, 03:22:45 PM
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All the technologies to build alternative interwebs already exist: TOR, I2P, GnuNet, OpenVPN, Mesh etc. The only thing needed is the will of people to switch to that alternative.
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Economy / Marketplace / Re: Young women for bitcoins
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on: February 10, 2011, 02:44:22 PM
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but we should be more tact about opposing government with Bitcoin, especially since that isn't its only possibility. We already oppose it enough just making transactions with no taxation
This is exactly what i meant earlier. The approach of a lot of people here is "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, GOOO DIEEE GOVERNMENT MOTHAFUCKAS, BGING IT ON BITCHEZ - WE'RE GONNA KICK YOUR DAMN ASS WITH BITCOIN !!!!!!1111oneone". In theory, this is good, because government deserves to get their asses kicked long ago. But in practice this is a "frontal attack using front door" strategy and it won't work, because government is perfectly prepared for a frontal attack. They are good at this. If you want to defeat government, you have to be cautious, careful, patient. Work slow, don't attract too much attention, popularize bitcoin among traders & exchangers, and then, before government(s) realizes, there will be no turning back from Bitcoin becoming a world currency. But it seems a lot of people on this forum are not grown up enough to understand that.
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