Think before you speak fucker. Talk within your limits. Dont test my patience. There are both good people and scammers in this forum and i know that im not a scammer. Talk with proof fucker. Then I will do whatever you say. Bunch of knowledge less Idiots are there. Are you one of them.
Can I test your patience? Is there a particular method used to score the result of the test? LMAO! Awesome public display of inadequacy there. Reminds me of the scumbags behind the 'LIR' ICO scam. You're just another pointless clonecoin ICO scammer. |
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Edit: Also the escrow address on bitcointalk ICO thread and that on website through shopping cart are also different.
ORLY? Can you screenshot that and post it? I'm sure if we could show Yahoo what the scammer is up to he'd withdraw his escrow provision which is probably fooling people into thinking it protects them. on website through shopping cart: http://imgur.com/FdrHeGYon bitcointalk forum ICO thread OP: http://imgur.com/qUZ89coFirstly, OP, you're launching a coin which has no innovative features on the promise of it having a future based on speculative claims about how you're going to get it adopted by multiple platforms. That's just ridiculous. Secondly, how do you explain the different deposit address on your website checkout compared to the one posted here for Escrow? |
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You are completely missing the point. I know how ponzi's work, you know how ponzi's work...I choose to play them because I can profit from them but at the same time I can lose, just like gambling. It is exactly the same.
It is *nothing* like actual gambling, which has odds unrelated to the ability of the 'game' or its 'players' to rope in more suckers so you can get a share of their deposit in return for helping the ponzi scam function. You know how these ponzi 'games' work, many people do not, many people on this forum do not have a particularly good grasp of the English language and struggle to recognise scams. But, and here's the thing, the negative rating is to show people that you are untrustworthy. Your intention to profit from other people's loss in a scheme which is all about encouraging others to deposit after you, means you are not trustworthy. The rating is a valid way to communicate to other forum members who may read your posts about this-ponzi or that-ponzi looking 'good', that you are provably untrustworthy due to your motivation to profit through these schemes at the cost of somebody else having their deposit stolen when it collapses. |
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LOL at the convoluted excuse they've spun that McDonald's claim into: https://recyclix.com/news/Moving on, we would like to issue a clarification as some members have been interested in our collaboration with McDonald's Netherlands and unfortunately some confusion has arisen from an inaccurate translation of the original documentation. We are indeed proud to work with them through our partner company Plamika UAB, Lithuania, that has won the contract to process all of the waste materials. We on the other hand have collaborated with Plamika UAB, Lithuania to handle the plastic wastes as a subcontractor. McDonald's lawyers moving to quash that in 5...4...3... 2nd LOL at the "We're definitely not a MLM scheme, promise!" Unfortunately, there was some misconception that Recyclix is just another Multi Level Marketing company, which we are definitely not....Our next newsletter will be an Interim Financial Report that will include important financial statistics and data that we are happy to share with our users, as well as upcoming plans for future international expansion. We hope that this will enhance transparency between us and further show our commitment to make Recyclix not only a global ambassador for the environment, but also the best financial platform available to serious investors.
But not the Italian authorities, apparently. Which suggests they don't have a valid Financial Statement they can offer up right now (as they definitely should do considering how long they have been operating), they have to spend some time cooking the books sufficiently to try and pretend like their 'Interim Financial Report' is going to be legit. What's this? Our activities are solely about plastic recycling, and affiliate marketing is just an added bonus. To avoid confusion and to further solidify our brand as a recycling company, we will move away from the 4-level affiliate structure and simply give a 12% bonus for every deposit of a direct referral. Oh noes! This changes everything, surely? They are not going to be operating their painfully-obvious MLM structure as a Multi-Level-Marketing operation anymore! No, they are simply going to be paying people 12% of whatever they can directly con somebody else into sending to these scammers. So, 12% of every new deposit which comes from a direct referral is effectively lost for the company. Which means before they can make the 'investor' any money, they have to make a 12% profit first in order to cover for the 12% referral-fee they give the slimy scumbag who referred said 'investor'. THEN, and only then, an additional NET PROFIT has to be generated which pays to the 'investor' the expected amount of return on the total amount of their deposit. That is a LOT of fucking profit they need to make from what is clearly a rather shoddy-looking under-staffed under-equipped recycling operation. All of this DURING an oil-price slump which means it is more cost-effective for manufacturers to buy high-quality plastic newly produced from petrochemical precursors than variable quality batches from recycling firms. |
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Yeah that zcash market looks like it is going to go to ridiculous numbers for a codebase which has yet to undergo real-world conditions.
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they are very active on the zcash forum, seems legit  It appears that 10 days ago he referenced his account here as being him and his posts over there are clearly for real so, yeah, I think we can say it is legit. I'll remove the warning. |
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That's just a Fiverr video, Jawad had a bunch of them done over the years. Look at the date of them as well, some of them are from the Razorcoin.com period, others from the Razormind Network Ltd (Another 'razormind' UK incorp that he abandoned) timeframe. Funny how he also posted a tweet about looking for interns during the 'crowdsale' (It was an ICO by any measure as people only bought the tokens in the hope they would increase in value). I wonder if anybody in Northern Ireland even follows the serial-liar on Twitter. @plastick - Any more news on the Ish Malik situation? |
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Play what you want to play, and post what you want to post.
Absolutely, it isn't as if I can actually stop anyone from participating in these scams or posting support for them. So that makes your "Help!Help! I'm being oppressed!!!!!111!!!" rant rather redundant.
Bitcoin is about freedom of speech
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequence of that speech. |
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Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi/Pyramid Scam
Do Not Invest!
Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
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@slow death I'm not supporter of this site or any other sites, but you know that your posts make no difference in this board?
I play these games and know my risks, people like you are just annoying, like flies in the summer. No one reallly cares what you have to say, no offense.
His posts do make a difference and I'm glad he annoys you, asshole. This is just another fucking ponzi scam using the same tired old fraudulent UK registered company online incorporation and you're just another sock-puppet shill account playing the "Oh your website looks really good, I will consider investing with you" claptrap. |
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That is what the demo looked like but from what I understand by all the docs I have seen it is more like ethereum but with file storage and sidechained with bitcoin...It looks like they want to create a basic version of DeOS then charge for "plugins". Kind of greasy if you ask me.
Yeah well it also was supposed to have 27,000 active users busy writing smart-contracts and developing on it since January of 2015, too. So I'd take anything that was posted on their website or came out of Jawad's mouth as stinking to high-heaven of bullshit. The goal was to sufficiently astro-turf the whole concept and company so they could fool people into investing, that's the take-home message for every bit of deception and fraud they're guilty of. |
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I've been hearing very good things about this company from various sources, but I'm still a bit skeptical. I have lots of BTC from investments and don't mind putting some into this. I definitely see the potential in this company and will only hope the results I get are great. Going to shoot you a PM OP.
Will also update you guys with results! Wish me luck.
Have you now? Asshole. You were also part of the 'Bitcoin Bloom' scam. another one of these sites...
we will see if this gains some momentum and then I'll invest.
any giveaways for first investors @adoell?
you are quick to respond! we will be running a giveaway for first bitcointalk investors, who post their txid in this thread. keep an eye on the first reserved post -bitcoinbloom |
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Hey folks,
I received this email from razormind yesterday, what should I do ??
Given the reports of Jawad, yet again, having posted up profiles of people he doesn't actually employ as though they were Razormind staff, I'd suggest urgently getting clarification from somebody outside of the splintering ICO leaders. I saw on the Omni Skype chat time ago that Patrick Dugan (of Omni) is holding one of the multisig signatures. Here is a screenshot: http://i64.tinypic.com/34tblvq.pngMaybe Omni knows more about what's going on? Patrick Dugan might be able to shed some light on the situation, given that it was stated early on that the Omni Foundation were overseeing the process. If he knows who is holding the keys for that multi-sig bitcoin wallet it could be possible to undo all of this and return the funds to the people who were conned into believing Razormind was a substantial corporate entity capable of delivering this project. The sad thing is some will stick with razormind and receive some sort of tokens that are essentially worthless Sounds like Ish might have actually been under the impression this ICO was supposed to fund the development of DeOS, you know, pretty much what everybody else was led to believe, too. Remember when the interviewer asked Jawad where the money for this other project of his, the five-million-euro 'blockchain bank', was coming from? I wonder if my prediction is true, that Jawad was only going to throw a fraction of the funds towards Dengo Systems to have them stitch together the tech just enough so he could claim delivery and take the rest of the funds for this 'blockchain bank' he couldn't explain the function of beyond the notion of 'lending money to poor people'. DeOS really is a good idea and the world needs it Is it? Is it really? As far as I can tell it is simply a cloud-hosted distributed platform (not decentralised and certainly not innovative) of office-style apps bundled with an Ethereum fork rebranded with the Ethers renamed to DEOS. |
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Just a quick bump for this TX3 scam, if you fancy a laugh go and have a look at the totally real  reviews they are writing for themselves on the totally untrustworthy TrustPilot. Report of these reviews being fake and links to evidence of how this Colombian domain is fraudulently imitating an unconnected UK-registered company sent to compliance@trustpilot.com |
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Easy to fake no? You just point to an already exiting 6000 address or use one from an old scam.
A user has posted a claim towards verifying at least one of the addresses they know was part of this ICO 'crowdsale' sham: That multisig address shows the funds are still there as of this moment. |
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H8ERS, the lot of you!!!1!1!1!elebenty!!!!!! Ew distroid the coining that wood save the werld! I no this to bee troo beecoz Badbitcoin tells me still to this day! http://www.badbitcoin.org/gaw.htm
Our position regarding GAW and Paycoin. These unsupported "indisputable facts" versus the reality.
There has been a very vocal campaign against the previously highly regarded supplier, GAW Miners, and going even further targeting their CEO Josh Garza, and has also questioned our position on these matters. In response to this, I am issuing the following unambiguous statement.
We do not share the opinion that this operation,or Mr Garza are intending to defraud, or have defrauded any investor in Hashlets, Hashstakers, Paycoin XPY, or any other product or service supplied by GAW or it's companies. We are not associated with these companies beyond personal & private holdings of Hashstakers, Zen Hashlets and XPY Paycoin, and are not paid by these companies.
They are accused of reneging on contracts, there is no evidence of this. Reneging on promises. There were never price promises, beyond individual expectation of market value, and the anticipated $20 floor, a concept since reformed into the honours program, which whilst indefinitely delayed, pending the resolving of legal issues, is still very much active. Some proposed features have been shelved, delayed, or abandoned due to direct effects of the current hate campaign, and other features have since been proposed, some are better.
Leaked emails, widely circulated, have been obtained illegally and are legally confidential. They must be disregarded due to their origin being from a hacked external, and uncredited anonymous source. The hacking of privileged company resources also indicates that the hacker may easily have fabricated these emails using hijacked services, or had physical access to those resources.
Neither GAW, Zencloud or any other GAW operation, has at this time, directly or indirectly defrauded anybody regarding the conversion to hashstakers and XPY. This was always a choice, freely chosen by the individual.
The campaign against GAW is a phenomenon that is unprecedented, and has become almost a cult. The vehemence of these detractors - the majority of whom are non investors - has had a visible effect on trust and wider adoption of this XPY. This campaign was fuelled by a core few individuals, would be members of a kind of informal 'old guard' of Crypto. It is an indefensible action.
We cannot accept any of these third party, sometimes absurd allegations as hard evidence, neither can anybody else who does not have unrestricted access to confidential original company accounts, minutes of meetings and internal and external correspondence. Therefore, were we to conclude that there was a scam going on, it would be pure conjecture, and that is morally and professionally irresponsible, and would leave us fairly justly liable, to prosecution for libellous actions. The majority of the supposed evidence so far, has no covenance and in some cases is even unknown of by the correspondents. Being unverifiable non original data, it is simply not worthy of consideration for any practical purpose.
GAW are also a registered company, with a strong track record. We have no desire to participate in any clearly orchestrated campaign against a hard working company.
Where we list other registered companies, it is always after confirming beyond doubt, that the company is using faked covenance, or is non-existent. We aren't here to investigate legal entities, already subject to outside audit.
I will finish by saying that personally, I am pretty adept at spotting a fraud. I do not believe that any deliberate attempt is being made to defraud anybody by Josh Garza. I do believe that the real damage being done to investors is due to this core group of 'haters' who resent this innovation and this rightly perceived threat to their own interests, and as such are prepared to originate and fuel this disinformation, not excluding illegally obtaining discreditable and confidential correspondence.
This is not intended as investment advice.
Ultimately, there will be a definitive outcome to this ongoing debacle. We'd like to come out of it with our integrity intact as well.
ViK. Editor & Project Lead. March 24th 2015
Update 30/05/2015 There is still no sign of any criminal charges appearing against this Company or CEO, and until any Judicial Rulings confirm or deny our stance on this, then it remains unchanged. There have been further revelations relating to certain ex-employees, and major thefts, misappropriation and hacks that have taken place by 3rd party contractors and others. None of this alters our opinion that there has been no fraud, intended or otherwise by GAW or Mr Garza, and that indeed much of the accusation levelled at these parties is misdirected. This story is far from over, and Paycoin still has the support of it's users - the Paycoin Community. The damage done to these mainly small investors by this ongoing hate campaign is truly shameful. The coin is unneccessarily tainted by these scurrilous accusations. Our hope remains that Paycoin can still go on to gain the true status it deserves as viable and useable digital currency for the people. File under: Shouldn't you have deleted this page by now, ViK? |
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Yeah but it's suspicion based on reason and evaluation of the facts as presented, namely, a brand new account posting lengthy apologia for a scamcoin supporting an MLM. Coupled with your obvious experience of this industry and you'd be hard pressed to find somebody who wouldn't reach the same conclusion as I regarding the likelihood of you already having one or more accounts on this forum.
I've removed the trust rating as I don't believe you are here to scam or support scams, but I still strongly assert that your posts about LEOcoin are not helpful to the conversation concerning the LEO organisation's dishonest manipulation of the credulous and ill-informed. Particularly given that most of them have limited grasp of the English language and would likely latch on to anything in your post which even suggested the possibility that LEO, as an MLM and as a cryptocurrency, *might* be legit. It clearly is not and the men running it have a long history of charges for running fraudulent schemes in various countries.
People who are so heavily invested emotionally and psychologically in the dream of 'passive income', a bullshit promotional term if ever there was one, take a LOT of convincing to see the truth of the situation. Couple that in with active sock-puppets and shills working on behalf of these scammers and it quickly becomes clear that any discussion which even suggests that *maybe* under certain circumstances, an MLM operation *might* work for *some* people and suddenly it is the invested reader who now believes their MLM is the one which will and that they will be the participant who gets to benefit from it.
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There is evidence to suggest in the email exchanges that Homero had convinced Stu he was some wunderkind who was buddies with people in the upper echelons of the tech industry. Claiming that the Tesla was a gift from Elon Musk himself is such a bizarre and obvious lie, but for 'old money' wealthy families it sounds perfectly plausible to have been mixing with such people.
While Stu did finance the gurning goon's ever-morphing business models, I don't actually believe he knew the truth of how hopeless the early ones like the isp were, or how criminal the cryptocurrency ones quickly became.
I think he'll be able to reference those email exchanges to easily prove that Garza repeatedly deceived him as to the truth of the matter.
Unless...of course, the Asian gentleman with 'banking difficulties' was referred to Garza by Cantor.
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Just strawmen and deflection - no denial that he uses sock puppets.
Are you off your meds or just another social incompetent on the autism spectrum? If you actually bothered reading a few posts below the arbitrary claim you link to in your untrusted feedback rating you would see I have already denied being an alt or employing sock-puppetry. I actually have some evidence that you are someone's alt, other from that, people have pm'd me saying you're someone's alt
No, you do not have evidence that I am someone's alt, you fucking imbecile. Do you know how I know this? Because I'm not a fucking alt and just because you and the infantile circle-jerk you vaguely refer to as 'people' have pm'd each other with the same ridiculous and baseless claim, doesn't make it true. Are you lot even capable of understanding the basic principals of intellectually-honest argument? That you now wish to join the herd of idiots and actual sock-puppets who routinely accuse me of same, does not warrant that I jump to attention and respond to every post you make about me. Now, seeing as we are, yet a-fucking-gain on the subject of sock-puppets and alts, I am drawn to this observation about you. Considering you claim to not have any alts or sock-puppets on this forum I find it extremely suspect that you clearly have a great deal of knowledge and experience in cryptocurrency and post about such things as your mining hardware. Yes - R1's are very unreliable. I have 2. One intermittently works. The other will if you default it often enough work for short periods and then stop working altogether. I wouldn't recommend buying one.
They are a great idea (if they worked properly) - bitcoin lottery 1:4000 years chance of hitting a block
I use the usb of the R1 to power a raspberry pi
I find it very very hard to believe that somebody who appears to have the experience you evidently do with cryptocurrency only thought to create an account here a couple of weeks ago. So while you might well be the same xtraelv who uses other forums, you could have been using a different account name here prior to two weeks ago. Which means, no, you haven't proved anything about your use of alt accounts or sock-puppets. |
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The email used are .every country like .ru and other if you look at all the payment proofs so this doesen't mean anything.
Are you even trying to think or just so invested in Recyclix making you rich that you can't let go of the dream? Look: See the sender is named as "Agribest OU", yes? That is an Estonian company. See the Customer Service Email is shown as " payment@agribestou.com"? That would be the domain for the Estonian company. But the ONLY bit of data in that sender information which is properly verified and necessary for using the account is the 'Payment Sent From' field which, as you can see and as I already fucking pointed out, is NOT Agribest OU or agribestou.com, it is a completely different domain and entity, one called agribest e.co, a Colombian domain. Remember? Just like the Colombian company "Alternative Trade Ltda" who sent out the payment before this fake Agribest OU/agribest e account, which had as its manager the Colombian "Roman Parra" So they are spinning the fact that the Italian authorities have blocked access to recyclix.com by claiming that they are cooperating with them to sort it out and will have it resolved in 'weeks'? Noting, in fact, that such statements are not substantiated by any documentary source - given that the company, despite the requests of Consob, has refused to provide contract used in customer relations - and also do not appear consistent with that published in the website www .recyclix.com; Because the reason the Italian authorities have blocked recyclix.com from being accessed is because, as the bold text above demonstrates, Recyclix are NOT cooperating and have NOT proven they are a legit operation, something they could easily do with a copy of their P&L (Profit & Loss) numbers. If they were actually making the profit needed to cover the returns they claim to offer their 'investors', they could prove in a single stroke that they were not operating as a ponzi scheme. They cannot, because they are operating as a ponzi scheme and they know damn well the Italian authorities are not going to remove that block. BTW, I see there's STILL no mention on facebook from any of you fanbois of the McDonald's claim having been thrown into the memory hole by these scammers. Shouldn't you be demanding answers for why you were lied to? |
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