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Whatever you guys want. I'm more than willing to keep developing for this coin Steven and Lin also want to. Regardless of the image. Its one of those take it or leave it sort of things.
Yes, please follow the roadmap if you can. Lets see what we can get out of it. Everyone knows what's going on and you have your side of story and leaving people hanging would be the worst thing to do. Everyone will forget about it in few months from now when marketplace has really made it. No one would look back and say "David did this or David did that". They would look back and say "David fcked up but he corrected himself and helped this coin become better even after all the hurdles that came on his way". That's all that really matters at the end. It's not about what happened or how you fcked up. It's about what you did after you fcked up and whether you did everything in your power to fix it. If Stevens & Lin are still supporting this then please get this done. I don't wanna be the guy who look back at crypto in few years from now and tell myself that bunch of guys ruined it for everyone. Good luck. |
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Kevinrasf
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December 12, 2014, 10:48:58 AM |
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Whatever you guys want. I'm more than willing to keep developing for this coin Steven and Lin also want to. Regardless of the image. Its one of those take it or leave it sort of things.
David, you know there are a lot of people supporting you. Dont waste your time here on these pathetic fud spreading people. |
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December 12, 2014, 10:49:34 AM |
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Why everone keeps saying Bob? Who is this Bob? Is he the same as Zimbeck?
Not the same guy. Apparently he's some 'altcoin expert' (which I hadn't ever heard of until this thread either). Learn something new every day on BCT... but usually not something you wanted to know.  Nah. Anyone could do what he does. Literally anyone with a half a brain and 2 hands can scam over the internet and get together a good amount of money. Doesn't mean that 99% of the people would be a huge faggot for a few $s. LOL. I thought the quotes around 'altcoin expert' were sufficient to indicate sarcasm. I agree. Whatever you guys want. I'm more than willing to keep developing for this coin Steven and Lin also want to. Regardless of the image. Its one of those take it or leave it sort of things.
Oh, I think at this point - delivering on every single promise would be about all that wouldn't just be the last nail in the coffin. However, I think you will have to consider how to repair the complete lack of trust likely to be shown to people that knew it was a P-n-D plan from the beginning, but never said "NO" to doing it. If you think that can be done without 100% transparency for all parties involved - to the point of every, privately held coin and contract made... then no. Many people were willing to go on trust - myself as well - simply based on your past actions and apparent character, work ethic, etc. However, even if all you did was assist in the systematic defrauding of the ICO investors by obfuscating the identities of people involved and the disintegration of the core team... then the trust is currently somewhere between 0% and -100%. It's hard enough to cultivate trust in cryptos... but when you're proven to be complicit in fraud... you've really got to do something incredible to come back from that. Not saying it's impossible - but it certainly isn't going to just magically get better in a couple weeks... even if the price of BAY does magically get better. Just my .02. However, I got rid of half my bag at the last run up to 140... the rest I'll keep just in case the magic ever happens, but I'm no longer holding my breath on it coming from here. |
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December 12, 2014, 10:51:18 AM |
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Whatever you guys want. I'm more than willing to keep developing for this coin Steven and Lin also want to. Regardless of the image. Its one of those take it or leave it sort of things.
Stick to roadmap! That's the right thing to do. |
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December 12, 2014, 10:51:48 AM |
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Whatever you guys want. I'm more than willing to keep developing for this coin Steven and Lin also want to. Regardless of the image. Its one of those take it or leave it sort of things.
Are you keeping it open source? Consider doing that if it isnt, that way some good will comw out of this project. |
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December 12, 2014, 10:51:56 AM |
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It doesn't mean I'm going to sell my share of Bay because sooner or later another so called "whale" as you say it would join in and try to pump it and I can get out during that pump.
No idiot whale will jump into this coin knowing full well that 3 people own 35% of the supply. lmao  |
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December 12, 2014, 11:02:37 AM |
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It doesn't mean I'm going to sell my share of Bay because sooner or later another so called "whale" as you say it would join in and try to pump it and I can get out during that pump.
No idiot whale will jump into this coin knowing full well that 3 people own 35% of the supply. lmao If marketplace launches and it works. I for one would be more than happy to take that 35% bucket out of their hands. I have real use of Bay and I'm not here to play pnd games. |
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December 12, 2014, 11:04:16 AM |
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Whatever you guys want. I'm more than willing to keep developing for this coin Steven and Lin also want to. Regardless of the image. Its one of those take it or leave it sort of things.
Stick to roadmap! That's the right thing to do. Yes, stick to the roadmap David |
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December 12, 2014, 11:04:37 AM |
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That's the cold wallet of Bter. All exchange listed coins have that kind of wallet distribution.
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Bernays
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December 12, 2014, 11:09:23 AM |
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It doesn't mean I'm going to sell my share of Bay because sooner or later another so called "whale" as you say it would join in and try to pump it and I can get out during that pump.
No idiot whale will jump into this coin knowing full well that 3 people own 35% of the supply. lmao Market forces have already weeded out most of the bad players. |
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December 12, 2014, 11:14:04 AM |
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It doesn't mean I'm going to sell my share of Bay because sooner or later another so called "whale" as you say it would join in and try to pump it and I can get out during that pump.
No idiot whale will jump into this coin knowing full well that 3 people own 35% of the supply. lmao If marketplace launches and it works. I for one would be more than happy to take that 35% bucket out of their hands. I have real use of Bay and I'm not here to play pnd games. This. You should have more than enough to live on from your part David. I would recommend doing nothing but sleeping (sooner would probably be better than later) and then working harder than you've ever worked to not only deliver everything here and in halo... but also providing everything you've got on all parties involved. Yes, you got extorted and threatened by lowlifes... but the lesson here is that if you aren't part of a fraud, then you can't be extorted in the first place. If the worst that could have been trotted out against you was the fact that you were being threatened by a 'FUD squad'... a brief shakeout would have been all that resulted. You got played, but we got played more - and although I can believe you (and possibly Steven) were 100% behind the concept... Lin appears to have been complicit in numerous aspects of fraud, from pre-ICO times - so I'm not sure the BTER side of things is gonna help anything at all. At least we can put the ICO days behind us in crypto with this... unfortunately that basically means that there's no way to organically fund projects of this magnitude. VC 'angels' in the real world aren't really much different from Bob and company unfortunately... especially if the venture doesn't do exactly what they say when they say it.  |
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December 12, 2014, 11:27:19 AM |
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still no word from Steven or Bter. Investors should be demanding an explanation for these two regarding their involvement in this. Also there needs to be clarity on if all 3000 BTC from the ico have been released from bter.
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December 12, 2014, 11:28:36 AM |
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It doesn't mean I'm going to sell my share of Bay because sooner or later another so called "whale" as you say it would join in and try to pump it and I can get out during that pump.
No idiot whale will jump into this coin knowing full well that 3 people own 35% of the supply. lmao If marketplace launches and it works. I for one would be more than happy to take that 35% bucket out of their hands. I have real use of Bay and I'm not here to play pnd games. This. You should have more than enough to live on from your part David. I would recommend doing nothing but sleeping (sooner would probably be better than later) and then working harder than you've ever worked to not only deliver everything here and in halo... but also providing everything you've got on all parties involved. Yes, you got extorted and threatened by lowlifes... but the lesson here is that if you aren't part of a fraud, then you can't be extorted in the first place. If the worst that could have been trotted out against you was the fact that you were being threatened by a 'FUD squad'... a brief shakeout would have been all that resulted. You got played, but we got played more - and although I can believe you (and possibly Steven) were 100% behind the concept... Lin appears to have been complicit in numerous aspects of fraud, from pre-ICO times - so I'm not sure the BTER side of things is gonna help anything at all. At least we can put the ICO days behind us in crypto with this... unfortunately that basically means that there's no way to organically fund projects of this magnitude. VC 'angels' in the real world aren't really much different from Bob and company unfortunately... especially if the venture doesn't do exactly what they say when they say it. That is another why I took it. It wasnt like VCs were being any more reasonable. And we talked to many. Im sorry if you were misled. My intention was just to develop. I didnt sell any Bay. |
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December 12, 2014, 11:29:37 AM |
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still no word from Steven or Bter. Investors should be demanding an explanation for these two regarding their involvement in this. Also there needs to be clarity on if all 3000 BTC from the ico have been released from bter.
I agree with this. This is a valid concern and it has nothing to do with the whole fud-circus. I trade on Bter and I trust them to that extend, but I don't like middlemen. That's why I'm watching this coin in the first place. |
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December 12, 2014, 11:30:47 AM |
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Why everone keeps saying Bob? Who is this Bob? Is he the same as Zimbeck?
Not the same guy. Apparently he's some 'altcoin expert' (which I hadn't ever heard of until this thread either). Learn something new every day on BCT... but usually not something you wanted to know. Nah. Anyone could do what he does. Literally anyone with a half a brain and 2 hands can scam over the internet and get together a good amount of money. Doesn't mean that 99% of the people would be a huge faggot for a few $s. I have to agree on this. I've made my share of income in crypto from pnd but I was never a huge faggot to create an army of 25-30 people and try to play woolong. |
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Kevinrasf
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December 12, 2014, 11:34:09 AM |
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Why everone keeps saying Bob? Who is this Bob? Is he the same as Zimbeck?
Not the same guy. Apparently he's some 'altcoin expert' (which I hadn't ever heard of until this thread either). Learn something new every day on BCT... but usually not something you wanted to know. Nah. Anyone could do what he does. Literally anyone with a half a brain and 2 hands can scam over the internet and get together a good amount of money. Doesn't mean that 99% of the people would be a huge faggot for a few $s. I have to agree on this. I've made my share of income in crypto from pnd but I was never a huge faggot to create an army of 25-30 people and try to play woolong. That is 1 thing, but Spreading FUD with 25 Man thats the pathetic part of those guys. |
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Bernays
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December 12, 2014, 11:37:25 AM |
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It doesn't mean I'm going to sell my share of Bay because sooner or later another so called "whale" as you say it would join in and try to pump it and I can get out during that pump.
No idiot whale will jump into this coin knowing full well that 3 people own 35% of the supply. lmao If marketplace launches and it works. I for one would be more than happy to take that 35% bucket out of their hands. I have real use of Bay and I'm not here to play pnd games. This. You should have more than enough to live on from your part David. I would recommend doing nothing but sleeping (sooner would probably be better than later) and then working harder than you've ever worked to not only deliver everything here and in halo... but also providing everything you've got on all parties involved. Yes, you got extorted and threatened by lowlifes... but the lesson here is that if you aren't part of a fraud, then you can't be extorted in the first place. If the worst that could have been trotted out against you was the fact that you were being threatened by a 'FUD squad'... a brief shakeout would have been all that resulted. You got played, but we got played more - and although I can believe you (and possibly Steven) were 100% behind the concept... Lin appears to have been complicit in numerous aspects of fraud, from pre-ICO times - so I'm not sure the BTER side of things is gonna help anything at all. At least we can put the ICO days behind us in crypto with this... unfortunately that basically means that there's no way to organically fund projects of this magnitude. VC 'angels' in the real world aren't really much different from Bob and company unfortunately... especially if the venture doesn't do exactly what they say when they say it. Crypto is there to lower barriers of money transfers and free markets and that's pretty much it. There is no cryptographic primitive that guarantees fairness (or anonymity  ), but there are laws of thermodynamics that keeps pushing for more efficient systems and decentralized marketplaces are right there on that path. It WILL happen, as Moore's law is just happening. Whether David is the enabler of this technology or not is entirely up to him. |
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December 12, 2014, 11:37:31 AM |
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It doesn't mean I'm going to sell my share of Bay because sooner or later another so called "whale" as you say it would join in and try to pump it and I can get out during that pump.
No idiot whale will jump into this coin knowing full well that 3 people own 35% of the supply. lmao If marketplace launches and it works. I for one would be more than happy to take that 35% bucket out of their hands. I have real use of Bay and I'm not here to play pnd games. This. You should have more than enough to live on from your part David. I would recommend doing nothing but sleeping (sooner would probably be better than later) and then working harder than you've ever worked to not only deliver everything here and in halo... but also providing everything you've got on all parties involved. Yes, you got extorted and threatened by lowlifes... but the lesson here is that if you aren't part of a fraud, then you can't be extorted in the first place. If the worst that could have been trotted out against you was the fact that you were being threatened by a 'FUD squad'... a brief shakeout would have been all that resulted. You got played, but we got played more - and although I can believe you (and possibly Steven) were 100% behind the concept... Lin appears to have been complicit in numerous aspects of fraud, from pre-ICO times - so I'm not sure the BTER side of things is gonna help anything at all. At least we can put the ICO days behind us in crypto with this... unfortunately that basically means that there's no way to organically fund projects of this magnitude. VC 'angels' in the real world aren't really much different from Bob and company unfortunately... especially if the venture doesn't do exactly what they say when they say it. las vegas suckard is about to shiver. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitbay/ you can befuddle yourself you can convince yourself not to believe .but the data never lie. |
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December 12, 2014, 11:43:52 AM |
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It doesn't mean I'm going to sell my share of Bay because sooner or later another so called "whale" as you say it would join in and try to pump it and I can get out during that pump.
No idiot whale will jump into this coin knowing full well that 3 people own 35% of the supply. lmao If marketplace launches and it works. I for one would be more than happy to take that 35% bucket out of their hands. I have real use of Bay and I'm not here to play pnd games. This. You should have more than enough to live on from your part David. I would recommend doing nothing but sleeping (sooner would probably be better than later) and then working harder than you've ever worked to not only deliver everything here and in halo... but also providing everything you've got on all parties involved. Yes, you got extorted and threatened by lowlifes... but the lesson here is that if you aren't part of a fraud, then you can't be extorted in the first place. If the worst that could have been trotted out against you was the fact that you were being threatened by a 'FUD squad'... a brief shakeout would have been all that resulted. You got played, but we got played more - and although I can believe you (and possibly Steven) were 100% behind the concept... Lin appears to have been complicit in numerous aspects of fraud, from pre-ICO times - so I'm not sure the BTER side of things is gonna help anything at all. At least we can put the ICO days behind us in crypto with this... unfortunately that basically means that there's no way to organically fund projects of this magnitude. VC 'angels' in the real world aren't really much different from Bob and company unfortunately... especially if the venture doesn't do exactly what they say when they say it. You are a wise man and i could not have put it better myself, Thanks for your input. These people are on either a or b side (we going to the moon) (its going to crash) (its his fault) (no its his) seems the only people close to the investors side/ middle ground was a couple of guys> i take my hat of to except for the personal attacks! Yes alt coin uk and barrabas tryed to warn investors in their own little way lol i read someone say he is nuttier than a squirrel but he knew what was up from the start.. go figure... My first alt coin investment after researching the only guy who had his name to it, i believed in this but after reading more screen shots i dumped because of blatant lies. The biggest shit head from this is bter i feel for lying about the milestones without that it collapsed and people should/would have listened to the nutty ones. Anyway i am taking a break from this crap for abit. Good luck anyone who is still on board you may need it if i am honest..... Mick.. |
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December 12, 2014, 11:47:47 AM |
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still no word from Steven or Bter. Investors should be demanding an explanation for these two regarding their involvement in this. Also there needs to be clarity on if all 3000 BTC from the ico have been released from bter.
+100 This is the biggest involvement in my opinion,, Bter are quick to threaten to throw around lawsuits on the nxt 51 million hack http://cointelegraph.com/news/112356/exclusive-key-negotiator-in-bter-nxt-hack-speaks-out What about now you horrible little man better get your shit together because what goes around comes right back around.. |
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