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3561  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 14, 2018, 04:13:33 PM
I still just find it hilarious how all the sheeple keep telling me bitcoin is crashed and burned.

Yet it is at 10x of a year ago.

Mouth open, eyes and minds closed!



3562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 13, 2018, 10:44:06 PM

Changing Algo was always in the future, it has to be.


I like this the best.

We need once and for all to break the link to the scammy CryptoNote

From there forth we forge our own destiny.

That shit dragged us down far too long.

Phil



3563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 13, 2018, 08:39:26 PM
Interesting GitHub discussion, initiated by smooth, as to whether Monero should begin to embrace ASICS instead of opposing them. Raises some interesting questions.

https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/3387#issuecomment-372283631


I am glad to see what appears to be a little bit of balance.  I understand the ideal of one CPU one vote, but many folks who would argue against ASICs will also argue in defense of botnets.  The botnet defense usually goes like: "They are securing the network, and they are incentivized not to wreck it by their financial stake".

This exact same argument can be used for ASICs.

I believe the question at the heart of this idea is clear:  Is it desirable to stick to the original 1 CPU 1 vote vision?  And if so, is it FEASIBLE to continue to enforce that vision?  With ASICs already in the wild it is a very valid set of questions.

If the answer to either is NO, then arguably we should move towards not only allowing ASIC development, but making it as easy as possible.

Disclaimer - I have been fairly firmly in the "original vision" camp for a long time.  But over the years I have grown more amenable to considering other options.

Yea I agree. If you cant beat them, join them. But only when you are sure that you can not beat them. We should try this plan to routinely alter the proof of work and see how that goes first.

and from what I have seen written, its supposed to be the threat of a change that is the deterrent.

after 1 fork from CN there will already be less incentive to risk it again.



3564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 13, 2018, 03:33:43 PM
Interesting GitHub discussion, initiated by smooth, as to whether Monero should begin to embrace ASICS instead of opposing them. Raises some interesting questions.

https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/3387#issuecomment-372283631


I am glad to see what appears to be a little bit of balance.  I understand the ideal of one CPU one vote, but many folks who would argue against ASICs will also argue in defense of botnets.  The botnet defense usually goes like: "They are securing the network, and they are incentivized not to wreck it by their financial stake".

This exact same argument can be used for ASICs.


A clear difference here is cost to entry.

Botnet owner = 0 (aside some small costs and ofc the initial effort)

ASIC owner = financial investment, commitment


I think one of these clearly cares more about the coin health that the other.


Also I'm reminded of an old description of venture capitalism I was once told. That was "Buy it for a pound, sell it for 2 pounds"


So in the hacker, botnet example its buy it for free. Where is their sell limit then?   erk


3565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: March 11, 2018, 11:20:49 AM
You deduced well.

And who would ask you to do that?

3566  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 11, 2018, 09:04:17 AM
Good work bitcoin.  You have accomplished your purpose of herding all the noobs into imaginary, valueless tokens while the state rigs the price of silver and gold low while buying it all as a form of stealth confiscation.  Now 99% of the population will be penniless slaves after the reset as planned.
<MTG Arabian Nights MtG Booster Box>

I have a sealed box of Revised Edition Boosters I bought for $99 back in the day.

About shit myself a few months back when I saw they are now selling for over $2000.

He even sounds like a member of the WO thread. See how the price forecast rises and rises lol   Cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o63DLorqB9c
3567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 11, 2018, 08:37:33 AM
Monero is a very sensitive subject


From the moment that I saw you
I knew that I'd be safe, cuz I'd never be alone
Run da buisness of the family
Have an evil empire just like my dear old Dad
Be Eviiiiil, but have my feelings too
Change my love wit Oprah and Maya Angeloo
But Monerov rejected me, c'est la vie
Life is cruel, treats you unfairly
Even so, a God there must be
Monero, you complete me


 
3568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: March 10, 2018, 08:45:34 AM
If all the xmv gets created in 5 huge transactions 1 on each exchange would that make a difference to the breach potential? instead of thousands of sets of keys shared.



I think they have realise most users don't run a home wallet so there will be no customers like that.


I cant see it getting on exchanges, but I do worry they may be using the Monero name + lies to get in the door.


I mean read any of the links people post to their material




3569  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 09, 2018, 04:51:39 PM
No longer!

Shill plus is the new Shill, with added Shills.

Shill Plus!

With moar shill

Buy now.



Post deleted. Context lost  Sad

Yeah still kinda makes sense if you apply it to about every 3rd posting.  Smiley

3570  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 09, 2018, 04:45:38 PM
No longer!

Shill plus is the new Shill, with added Shills.

Shill Plus!

With moar shill

Buy now.

3571  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 09, 2018, 12:51:38 PM
Bitfingox
3572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 07, 2018, 03:01:25 PM
Will it be on an exchange?

3573  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 10:05:25 AM
Instead of disappointed for the drop back down

I am like, cool there are people out there who were happy to buy at 20k$

Its like a future indicator.

3574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 07, 2018, 09:10:39 AM
Would you feel differently if you looked at the dollar price?

I think we  are around the same number there(BTC), but that asset is at at least x10 so we can realy say we are looking at .3 in a way already.

I don't explain shit very well.

Smiley
/G
3575  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2018, 10:15:48 PM
bah just keep turning up this useless gold stuff,  they have that pegged already


3576  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2018, 10:09:43 PM
Please help.

I have been mining for bitcoin at home for 2 years now and found nothing.

How deep do I have to go?

200m and now my house has fallen into the hole, the government man says I have to stop immediately.

What should I do?
3577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 05, 2018, 10:03:01 PM
I am still ready for a MoneroV person to paste some actual facts here.


What is the total supply of Monerov vs Monero today and into the future? a graph or some other representation.

I know the tail emission is not infinite, that's silly bs. But Monerov starts with practically infinite coins, whats the point then.

What is the premine being held by anonymous devs? Are any coins being hidden?

Without open source how can we know anything is secure?

Why ask to reuse Monero keys? if you had a solid idea you would use your own name.

Conclusion    moneroV = roger Ver


Conclusion can only be this is BS.



3578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 05, 2018, 05:22:15 PM
On March 14, Monero will welcome a new member to its step-family – MoneroV.
Among other differences, MoneroV has limited supply of coins while Monero’s coin supply is infinite

Care to elaborate here? how can they give you 10:1 and also be sorting out the "supply problem".

you have been fooled with rhetoric
3579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 05, 2018, 03:08:50 PM
Bitcoin private has better privacy technology and you have the option to send a private transaction or public. Plus it's built on bitcoins blockchain which has better written code from over 400 developers that worked on it.

Where the evidence of any of that subjective crap talk

Slow old bitcoin code, yep you know where its at.

Why you mad brah?



3580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: March 05, 2018, 11:39:04 AM
Code modifications to integrate Ledger HW device into monero-wallet-cli.

https://github.com/monero-project/monero/commit/c7ace5fa3d412410312e21c55c28068dcd625fef


Cool Ill be getting one.

Was just waiting to see if it ran on the same hardware or a newer one.
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