Hey Jams, why don't you diversify and look @ some other cryptos. I have been around Darkcoin almost from the beginning and I still think it has a great future, but so do other coins too. Gridcoin has been around for 1 year now and it has maintained it's value, while everything else has been decimated! Why don't you have a look @ that, you will fee much better mining Gridcoin knowing that you computations are going to Boinc science projects! There is also Solarcoin and bunch of others that are trying to do innovative stuff. Darkcoin is great, but it is not the only game in town, there is lots of coins with major potential! $1.80... are you fucking serious? fuck crypto im sick of this shit what the fuck fucking fuck fuck fuck.
Hang in there kiddo! I can't believe it either, but when I step outside this box they call a thread, I see so much fud being said about our coin, I'm amazed! People actually don't know our coin functions, and functions well for privacy. They're also being spoon fed outright lies about DRK. But I think the real issue is that all the scams and thievery has taken it's toll on cryptos in general, including Bitcoin. These are growing pains. We need to grow some immunity here. We need a trustless exchange system where coins never leave the control of the wallet owner until a trade actually happens. This needs to happen soon or we will suffer worse as more exchanges are "hacked" (read flee with user's coins and money). But we're coming up with some good ideas over at darkcointalk, and hopefully a developer will take this on soon. Look I appreciate your enthusiasm but honestly this is really starting to piss me off. Crypto is just sliding into the abyss. People still don't see the need for it, I'm talking your average person on the street. I'm starting to lose hope. It's been a year of decline so far, I've lost thousands of dollars. I feel like a sack of shit. I could have sold DRK at $10 but I held like a fucking moron now I basically have nothing left. The question I'm asking myself is: "How could you be so fucking stupid?" Literally when I wake up, I ask myself this, and before I go to bed, the same. I will never forgive myself for being suckered into this and will probably die of an ulcer or some other stress-related disease because of it. I am literally going insane because I missed so many opportunities. You only get so many chances in life I think I missed most of mine. Maybe it's time to move off to some foreign country and just fade into oblivion. Life, you beat me. I give up. My ambition has been stripped and I have nothing left. I'm not one to quit but I'm about ready to throw in the towel. I'll never get ahead and will probably die poor and destitute with nearly nothing to my name. Thanks crypto. Good advice. Always diversify and remember that there are other coins out there that stand just as good a chance at adoption as Darkcoin. Putting all your eggs in one basket is the worst thing you can do. Unfortunately it appears that many people did just that with Darkcoin and now regret it. It's not Darkcoins fault, it's just bad decision making on the part of the investor. |
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I said to me after the next masternode payment enforcement fail im out. Here we are again. What to do now? Waiting since june. I mean if you fail that often you can destory any coin even bitcoin. What a sad day  . There are sometimes 3 releases on a day. This cant be the future. Do we need a better sandbox? So stick to your guns and get out? What are you hoping to accomplish here? We don't need a better sandbox, we need unemotional, long-viewed investors. Not emotional, whiny, short-term speculators. Even in the official channel we have long-term investors talking about waiting on buying till price retreats to .003... if that's the case and everyone is waiting for cheaper and cheaper, how do you actually expect price to move up? You can say adoption till you are blue in the face but merchants certainly want to see some stability in price, not further downside pressure. I brought this up in the channel but it begs the question, where do these investors see DRK positioned? If you are one to view it as somewhere in the neighborhood of $500M to $1B in market cap (not tomorrow by any means), then the difference between buying at market around .005 and waiting to .003 is about 70c USD. Seriously, are you that fucking cheap you can't actually support the price here? I mean no disrespect to anyone involved in this mentality but lets be realistic here, you aren't helping. .70c is a lot if you're buying thousands of coins. It's currently 41% of the current price. If you think it will go down it would be foolish to buy now. |
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The price is low I would imagine simply because Bitcoin is on a downtrend. When Bitcoin sneezes so does every other coin. We're going down, that's as clear as day, but we won't go up unless Bitcoin turns around properly and people then feel faith in crypto in general.
Agreed. The uncertainty around BTC is having a huge effect on alts as usual. Any trader worth his salt has had to consider divesting alts with such weakness around BTC. Cash is the place to be right now for many of the traders I chat with. Add to that the huge risks around working with exchanges, the (misplaced, IMO) hype around sidechains supplanting alts, and the not insignificant hurdles facing DRK development and adoption, and it's no wonder we're going down. All of that said, there's huge opportunity for those with patience and resolve in markets like these. DRK has a lot going for it, and I'm betting on significant appreciation when / if the BTC market finds its footing and rallies. Don't bet the farm, because that's exactly what this is... a (minimally informed) bet. I agree about being in cash. I'm sure glad I cashed out as much as I did a few months back. If I hadn't I would probably be screaming bloody murder like some of the other posters. But they have nobody to blame but themselves. While everyone was saying "buy buy buy" I was selling. I liquidated most of my altcoin holdings and cashed out a nice chunk of bitcoin. Now I have a pile of cash. Regardless of the tech, the hype, the fancy graphics, slogans, meme's, etc... Cash is still king and will remain so for some time to come. Those that pushed the concept that cryptocurrency was going to challenge fiat anytime soon are people that you don't want to listen to for advice. There was also coordinated effort to hype DRK and pump it up. Those people sold when it was much higher even though they were telling others to hold. Now that they have secured their profits expect them to repeat the process. |
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How about the logo,the supernet and the next update thing?
Not gonna happen. |
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Your opinion is fact. I've updated masternodes five time in the last couple weeks like everyone else. That is NOT acceptable. If the tech isn't ready it isn't ready. Don't release it until it is. Simple concept but not followed.
The tech is under development, AND it's being used as live software. As such, it is subject to live attack and subversion. The software is about to change again for InstantX. Understand that this is part of the reason you get paid to run a masternode. Get on testnet if you really want to feel the burn. To add, testnet will only represent a portion of mainnet and some issues would take too long to replicate in the test environment, assuming they even showed up. Mainnet is far more expansive and diverse than testnet will ever be. You are correct. Unfortunately since many of these issues are not able to be identified on testnet they end up being exposed on mainnet. That in and of itself isn't all that bad. What is an issue are the amount of updates that are released only to have to be updated shortly after. I find it to be more of an inconvenience than anything but I'm sure that it causes many to question the overall tech. Regardless, it isn't good for Darkcoin |
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I do worry about how long this downward trend will continue. We've seen two dumps of over 40k DRK and one of 25K DRK in the last month alone and whilst there has been a small rally after each one the price has continued to decline.
In my humble opinion I think the number of updates and teething problems are rattling confidence. Combine that with the general slack behaviour of BTC recently and we're not too many big dumps away from a frenzy.
Your opinion is fact. I've updated masternodes five time in the last couple weeks like everyone else. That is NOT acceptable. If the tech isn't ready it isn't ready. Don't release it until it is. Simple concept but not followed. |
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I do not have anything to do with coins: DOGEBC, PPCD.
And this is no scam coin
You're a funny guy. Ha ha ha ha ha! |
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Don't worry about these guys. They don't care about you. All they want to do is pile on like the followers they are.
Oh but you care so much, right buddy? I was actually offering sound advice. Unlike the other idiot who told him to get a job and invest more into Darkcoin. Anyway whatever. I have more important things to be doing than arguing with idiots who refuse to see sense No I don't care. But I'm not going to pile on the guy, call him names, and such. If you were not doing that then I wasn't talking about you. Seems like there are a bunch of camoshit wamnnabe's posting the same type of foul personal attacks. This thread is better off without camocrap and imitators. |
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You're right. End of conversation. I'm stupid, dumb, immature, etc... you win.
Now you're just being patronizing. Any other silly tricks you're capable of? Sell your coins and go find another way to make some fucking money. Everyone else has to do it. What exactly are you going to achieve by bitching to strangers? I really don't understand FUCKING LEAVE ME ALONE GOD DAMMIT WHAT THE FUCK. Don't worry about these guys. They don't care about you. All they want to do is pile on like the followers they are. |
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As the price of both bitcoin and darkcoin tanks, we need a suicide counter for the crypto community. Life is a bitch!  It goes up and it goes down. That's the way it is. If anyone is in so deep that suicide is an option then they probably should never have gotten in to begin with. I am down since buying back in but I'm not going to worry about it. I cashed out a bunch of profit some time back when bitcoin was much higher. I think what's bothering many people is the fact that they were so far ahead at one time and now they're underwater. Some simple advice when investing in anything. It's smart to take some profit when you can. You never know what the future holds. Especially with something like crypto. Unfortunately many people took all the hype and treated it as fact. There is nothing wrong with selling some of your DRK when you are in profit. You are NOT "weak hands" for selling. You are a smart investor taking profit. Being upside down with my latest investment in DRK is somewhat concerning but I'm not going to panic. I bought at 2.05. Am I selling? Not right now. But I won't hesitate to sell all my DRK in a second if I feel that it's the right thing for me to do. If someone wants to call me "weak hands" for making sound investment decisions then so be it. I could care less. Staying in profit and minimizing losses that may happen is the only thing I care about. I think many people were manipulated into holding when they really shouldn't have. Many of those people screaming hold or your just "weak hands" have sold and moved on. It happens with every coin. This isn't DRK specific. The vast majority of people in crypto are here only to make money. If they can get yours they will. Always remember that and trust nobody. Make your decisions based on what's best for you not some coin. And remember that man hasn't set foot on the moon for almost 50 years. Stop worrying about price and hold or sell and move on. It's pretty simple. It's apparent that some of the larger holders have been doing just that. |
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Like when people say that it is a Scam, just all want to buy and saw the chance, when Whale dropped the price below 5K. Everyone understands that will soon pump, only a complete moron can now sell, unless of course it is not the manipulation of a Whale.  Only a moron would buy this shitcoin. You say whale dropped the price to 5k. That was the dev dumping his coins you fool. This is a scam. The only purpose for this coin is for the dev to make some btc. This coin has no future just like every one of the other shitcoins launched by veteran scammer carsen klock. You may be correct but the dump everyone is referencing was 3 BTC. Hardly worth all the hassle. A veteran scammer would wait until the end of POW and dump after the natural uptick in price. Yeah but carsen was probably out of meth and couldn't wait. 3 btc will keep him high and awake for awhile. At least long enough to launch another shitcoin like this. |
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Like when people say that it is a Scam, just all want to buy and saw the chance, when Whale dropped the price below 5K. Everyone understands that will soon pump, only a complete moron can now sell, unless of course it is not the manipulation of a Whale. Only a moron would buy this shitcoin. You say whale dropped the price to 5k. That was the dev dumping his coins you fool. This is a scam. The only purpose for this coin is for the dev to make some btc. This coin has no future just like every one of the other shitcoins launched by veteran scammer carsen klock. |
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Hey guys, As promised, I'm sharing first screens of GUI design. Also, all icons are uniquely designed from scratch. Final design might vary. Feel free to give your feedback!  My motivational BBR coinjar address is: @bitcrea or simply: 1KjAkQLDtDqNn5TWwufygAP6CMnWk4ySo5YEEBkJxYTLfEFLaiysN1XZzzjFAfv7puRjAz4rQLrHn4T bLqVZzmHe85bfzhr All the best, Bitcrea Looking good! |
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Wouldn't a longer/lower emissions curve benefit everyone?
It wouldn't clearly benefit miners, unless the price went up enough to offset the reduced rewards. If some of the miners depart, the coin becomes less secure. It wouldn't necessarily benefit the reputation or adoption of the coin, since it looks like an instamine. If you have been involved for the past six months, you got the benefit of large numbers of coins being minted and traded at low (and even increasingly lower) prices. Then mining gets cut and everyone but the early adopters gets to fight over a smaller supply, or pay up to buy from early adopters' stashes. It also wouldn't necessarily benefit confidence in (and again reputation of) the coin. If it is considered acceptable to change once, it could be acceptable to change again. No one knows where that leads, and it is hard for anyone who is buying to know what he or she is buying. Also a slower curve now means higher inflation later, for a longer period of time. Pay now or pay later? This is not a the sort of change to be made lightly. I most certainly preferred a slower curve at the start. Now, I'm not sure the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. Changing the emission rate now should be a non starter. The time to make that change has come and gone. Just talking about it spooks some people. |
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it's worth taking into account that all of the alts that are privacy centered have taken a massive beating lately (dark, bbr, btcd, etc).
(Almost) all the alts that aren't privacy centered have been taking a massive beating lately too, and Bitcoin too. Crypto bear market.That pretty much sums it up. If you look at other coin threads you'll see the same talk about price. However, this latest decline in XMR price has been pretty substantial compared to other coins. There is a significant amount of buy support, 364 btc on Poloniex but XMR will need to go down further to reach it. If you look at most coins none of them are anywhere near their all time highs. Monero's chart is similar to other coins that steadily declined from their peak. There was too much hype surrounding Monero and cryptonote coins in general. The price was artificially inflated and driven up by many not wanting to miss out. |
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Mangled blue, I dont understand what are you trying to accomplish. Why are you posting on behalf of someone else? This can be misleading specially since no one have had any issues. You can bring it up to Flare privately before creating a problem for no reason, I am sure he will check it out for you.
Camosoul way of addressing other community members and newcomers cant be justified, it was not healthy, hopefully he will take some time and be more flexible in the future.
Been busy doing MN stuff..... just now taking a break and what not...... I completely understand where your coming from.... It wasn't a matter of speaking for somebody else, even tho it might have looked that way - I get it.... I agree 100% with you - Camo need not address anybody like he has and even more so the way he has on DCT this past eve. It's not right and it is, unjust, at times. Camo does have he's rants - we all know this. I spent some time with Camo, in person, in the real world, he's not a bad guy. Very funny and laid back while we we're hanging out but like we all know - he does have his moment's. He was actually getting a lot better there for a while and then this week - wow!? I don't get it..... I'm not sure what's going on with him right now. But rest assured - relaying messages and attempting to speak for somebody else was not my intentions, kinda (I look back see what you mean - ugh). I only want the best for DRK and the people involved.......(((sigh))) No camo is best for DRK. Completely out of line with his despicable personal attacks on anyone and everyone. Yet you defend the guy. Red-Shinobi said: ↑
camosoul, im suprised anyone is helping you at all here, youre being a prick to people who are trying to help you.
Seems like you know everything anyway, so why are you asking "trolls" for help?...dont answer.
Eat shit. Liar. Anyone worth a damn can read that the opposite is what happened. I hope you watch your children die, if the world is unfortuante enough to face the idea of you reproducing in the first place.
Don't answer? What a fucking coward. Lies, cheap shots, then tell me I better just take it. Cuz I'm totally gonna do that... Trash. Hide behind your keyboard, loser. Do you feel important now? Fuck you.
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Mining on an Intel Core i7 using 8 threads since launch (on and off) so have found a couple of blocks. Just submitted some stats. CPU-Z - http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html - Is quite useful for windows CPU info. ... Quite surprising that more people are not actively mining this, guess crypto currency has become more about the 'money' and less about the math and science. Should certainly be a lot more interest in Gapcoin when a working pool is up and running though I'm guessing. People are too busy mining the latest bitcoindogedarkstealthcoin. Fine by me. Makes it easier to mine for now. |
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i normally don't respond to trolls because these scamcoin pump and dump shills ain't worth my time, especially when they pretend to be asking shrink wrapped questions that actually carry own agenda... so i agree wholeheartedly with what iCEBREAKER said earlier as these are exactly my thoughts as well and applies to all paid or unpaid trolls... I hope you're not directing that towards me because I haven't been throwing tantrums or making demands. I am just stating what I believe to be the truth. I also wonder why you would want people to leave when the best thing for Monero is MORE people adopting it and hanging onto it.
If someone wants to whine and cry about the price they have every right to do so. If you want to call them names and tell them to leave that's your right as well. In the end however, a few large holders of this coin will never be enough for it to be successful. So insulting and telling people to leave Monero is the worst thing you could do. I saw this happen with Darkcoin where a few large holders became extremely arrogant and alienated a large portion of the people that wanted to support the coin. I see this now happening with Monero where a few large holders think that the coin belongs to them and that others are deemed to be parasites for questioning their all knowing wisdom about things that nobody knows what the outcome will be.
It seems that a few people decided that they could take their wealth and just turn Monero into the next bitcoin. The only way that will ever happen is by attracting supporters of this coin not alienating them. Even then it's a long shot at best. But best of luck with your method of attracting people to Monero. Calling people parasites doesn't seem to be the best method however.
It was obviously directed at your FUD, most specifically these threats and ultimatums: If any cryptocurrency wants to be around in three years then it needs to offer something people want and it needs to offer it now. If it doesn't it won't be around in three years, monero included.
Telling people it might take three years is like shooting yourself in the foot. People aren't going to do that. They are already losing patience
as proven by the recent selling. People want results now. That's just a fact of life. The sooner the impatient and panicky weak hands sell to patient and wiser hloders the better it is for Monero, for at least two reasons. One, the strong hands tamp down volatility, invest in the dev team, and build out the platform. Two, the weak panicky hands will have to buy back at a higher price, which rewards forbearance.Your comparison of XMR to DRK is invalid because the former is 100% legit while the latter is a scamcoin (complete with MadoffNodes).It seems I struck a nerve, as you chose to respond with yet more FUD, threats, and ultimatums. The pump-and-dump crowd you speak on behalf of and defend do have a niche in the market ecosystem, as do parasites in biology (they increase host resilience and complexity).  If you two individuals and your over inflated ego's would actually think before posting you would realize that I was not comparing XMR and DRK technology wise. I was comparing the level of arrogance from some of the supporters of each coin. You've both just proven my point. As soon as those "weak hands" sell you their coins the better off Monero will be. That's your opinion not mine. Instead of wider adoption, fewer large holders is better for Monero. Again your opinions not mine. Have a nice day.  |
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Anything less than 3 years to measure success just wastes your time and gives bad results
I disagree. It might have taken bitcoin years before it had any value but the landscape has changed. Three years to measure success is ridiculous. Cryptocurrencies are no longer just some geeky experiment like bitcoin was when it started. The foundation has been poured. Those building on that foundation will need to move quickly or get left behind. Bitcoins history is just that. To be successful going forward, a cryptocurrency will need to rapidly deploy features people want, create an infrastructure that will support it, and users willing to adopt it. If a currency doesn't accomplish those things it will go nowhere. I think one of the reasons for the exodus out of altcoins is that people have been speculating on the next bitcoin. It's become apparent to many that the majority of all altcoins are just quick schemes to make money. They all promise this and that, new features coming, etc... None of the promises have come true. None of the altcoins have succeeded in gaining any significant adoption and most likely none of them will. If any cryptocurrency wants to be around in three years then it needs to offer something people want and it needs to offer it now. If it doesn't it won't be around in three years, monero included. Telling people it might take three years is like shooting yourself in the foot. People aren't going to do that. They are already losing patience as proven by the recent selling. People want results now. That's just a fact of life.  rpietila is correct. It is not surprising that he hails from an extreme northern cold-climate culture which has developed heroic standards for delayed gratification. Large, long-lived complex systems like elephants and humans have extensive gestation and pre-adolsescent growth periods. Monero hasn't even been born yet and is still a fetus. Its price is based on ultrasound readings, not direct observation. We are in the 650 day process of growing a wise crypto-elephant, not a 30 day rush job to pop out a vapid scamcoin chipmunk. When Monero is finally delivered, it will have well developed advantageous features (GUI/DB/webwallet) which will allow it to survive in the wild: http://www.bbc.com/news/health-18507515It would be nice if all the impatient bedwetting toddlers would make good on their threats to sell their Monero and leave. But they won't, because despite all their noisy threats and temper tantrums, they want to be where the cool older kids are.
For better or worse, we just have to put up with the little parasites' incessant demands for instant gratification. I hope you're not directing that towards me because I haven't been throwing tantrums or making demands. I am just stating what I believe to be the truth. I also wonder why you would want people to leave when the best thing for Monero is MORE people adopting it and hanging onto it. If someone wants to whine and cry about the price they have every right to do so. If you want to call them names and tell them to leave that's your right as well. In the end however, a few large holders of this coin will never be enough for it to be successful. So insulting and telling people to leave Monero is the worst thing you could do. I saw this happen with Darkcoin where a few large holders became extremely arrogant and alienated a large portion of the people that wanted to support the coin. I see this now happening with Monero where a few large holders think that the coin belongs to them and that others are deemed to be parasites for questioning their all knowing wisdom about things that nobody knows what the outcome will be. It seems that a few people decided that they could take their wealth and just turn Monero into the next bitcoin. The only way that will ever happen is by attracting supporters of this coin not alienating them. Even then it's a long shot at best. But best of luck with your method of attracting people to Monero. Calling people parasites doesn't seem to be the best method however. |
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