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1061  Economy / Economics / Re: Unusual Situation as Russia’s Ruble bounces back as world best per fiat currency on: June 09, 2022, 03:43:23 PM
I was a little amused by the title of the topic. But later, I found an explanation and the correct link from where the OP got this news.
https://news.bitcoin.com/american-economists-are-baffled-by-an-unusual-situation-as-russias-ruble-is-the-worlds-best-performing-fiat-currency/
But my opinion suggests that apparently, six packages of sanctions are too few for Russia; a seventh is needed, and if possible, several more, so that we can stop being surprised at the extreme survival of this country.

Correct, this shouldn't be too surprising that Russia was able to save their currency slightly within the context of extreme sanctions.

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However, during the second week of April 2022, Bitcoin.com News reported on the country’s central bank slashing rates and pegging the ruble to gold. At the time, Russia’s central bank pegged the price of RUB to 5,000 rubles for a gram of gold. Russia also made it so “unfriendly” countries are forced to pay for gas with the ruble. Numerous international buyers are complying with the rule and paying for petro products in rubles. The country’s central bank also slashed Russia’s benchmark bank rate as well.

Russia is sitting on a lot of energy exports that India and China are willing to purchase readily. Other countries in Europe require these energy exports too and there is not an indication that these other countries can immediately switch energy suppliers without drastically raising the costs. Relatively speaking, ruble still isn't performing well.
1062  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin price and actions to raise it on: June 08, 2022, 08:26:26 PM
This is the time to look around and ask: What else can be done to sustain BTC growth? How to increase interest in BTC? Everything possible is already being done on the stock exchange. Where are the other growth points? Growth points in increasing demand and interest. Experienced people and beginners love to play. Therefore, growth points can be in expanding people's awareness and offering new tools.

I think it's time to make websites with prices in different currencies: dollars, euros and crypto. It seems to me that this will contribute to the popularization of cryptocurrencies. Strengthening the popularity of cryptocurrencies would lead to an increase in their rate, to more lively trading, and as a result, to strengthening the status of cryptocurrencies.

I feel that Bitcoin became much more like a commodity than a currency for most people, investors and the mainstream media. Although we in bitcointalkuse it as a currency , that is not the reality for most people.

This is true, especially within the context of high inflation effecting most of the developed world. But, I don't see that as an issue.

Bitcoin is bifunctional - as a currency and as a commodity. There isn't a problem with someone using it day-to-day in place of fiat currency nor is there any issue with someone holding for long term because both uses increase the amount of Bitcoin users. You might even make the argument that holders that don't put their crypto in circulation could increase the price by lowering the supply. Perhaps not something that has any large scale impact on the price, but one can hope.
1063  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Monkeypox, are you vaccinated ? on: June 07, 2022, 08:42:03 PM
CDC recommends wearing a mask to protect yourself against monkeypox: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/alert/monkeypox

They include information pertaining to the prevalence of cases involving homosexual men. The risk of transmission remains low and highest with close personal contact of an infected person. Yet, somehow, the CDC are going to convince the neurotic COVIDiots to mask up for this. They might even bring out Fauci for this one.
1064  Economy / Economics / Re: World has just ten weeks' worth of wheat left after Ukraine war on: June 05, 2022, 04:40:34 AM
I must say that this war led me to a number of disappointments. Among them is the disappointment in the lack of care about the ideas appropriated by the Western world as their central values: freedom, human rights, democracy. Leading genocide scholars concluded that Russia's war against Ukraine is genocidal in its nature, and that there's an imminent risk of genocide. All the signatories of the Genocide Convention are legally obliged to prevent genocide. But they aren't doing it, and are letting atrocities after atrocities to build up, many hesitating to strongly help Ukraine in the war and weighing human lives against profits. Then there's this huge risk of decades of progress in eradicating hunger being eliminated right now by Russia's war, and again, it's not a good enough argument to do everything they can to stop Russia. There are countries that are really doing so much, and there are those that are barely doing anything. They don't care about dying civilians, raped children, famine or anything else, really, as much as they care about profits and the growth of their economies. It is very unfortunate that it turns out there are only a handful of countries who truly believe and are ready to sacrifice something for democracy, for saving innocent lives. And I'm sorry that because of the hesitance of certain countries that could help cripple Russia's power but decided against it, more innocent lives will be lost, including those who'll die from hunger.


There's a genocide in China going on with Uyghurs muslims. China's government are racial essentialists and there's been clear evidence that groups of Uyghurs have been shipped to modern day concentration camps and held in captivity. U.S. and Europe are well aware of the issue, yet they choose to do nothing. Not even a condemnation as far as I'm aware.

The western world values their economy and financial freedom for the people within their borders and will sacrifice their morals for anyone else outside. The west doesn't really care about Ukraine, they're worried about their own national security and economic interests, genocide or not.
1065  Economy / Economics / Re: The effect of the 100 day war on Russia economically on: June 05, 2022, 01:24:55 AM
They don't have any backup plan. I don't think Russia could have had the foresight to anticipate the Ukrainian response nor the economic retaliation from the international community. Their only remedy is doing trades with China and India. They might bank on eastern Europe caving in to their energy demands and opening up new imports for Russian oil but the politicians don't care about increased energy cost. It disproportionately affects the poor.

Russia is not the only country that is affected by the sanction. It is true they are not earning from their trade export goods but Russian people are also not suffering from food shortages like EU and African countries did. Cooking oil become a delicacy in some European countries. African and some middle eastern country is having a hard time with food shortages due to a lack of wheat supply.

Sanctions work both ways, but as I mention, the politicians don't care. They're wealthy enough.
1066  Economy / Economics / Re: Should we embrace a cashless policy?? on: June 04, 2022, 11:26:33 PM
A cashless policy is an economy that runs operates on zero cash. Not as if there will be no cash in circulation, but it will be done digitally and can be fully traceable.
Now, with countries experiencing inflation, the best way to curb this inflation is by using this method of going cashless as there will be no much paper money in existence.

Going cashless just increases the tendency and ease of increasing the money supply so IMO the banks will aim for CBDC's to replace cash. Given all banking is virtual now, it doesn't take any effort to inject people's accounts with currency if the entirety of someone's net worth is represented by pixels on a screen. Bitcoin acts in a similar fashion, but obviously there isn't a way to create coins outside of the ones that already exist.

Inflation doesn't factor too much into this, though. People have dumped cash on their own for the sake of convenience. Switching people from USD into a dollar based CBDC's is probably the next move which would eliminate paper cash in its entirety.
1067  Economy / Economics / Re: LMAO: India resells Russian oil to the European Union. on: June 04, 2022, 09:02:05 PM
This is old news but the U.S. was very upset about India buying oil from Russia. In fact, the U.S. believed it was bestowed upon them to dictate the bilateral trades of other countries and complicate them with their own internal political turmoil. Seems very arrogant.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/russia-india-oil-deal-us-psaki-b2036822.html

I don't think anything came out of the ordeal, other than some words critical of India's purchasing habits with Russia.

If this story is legitimate -- then good for India. They have an obligation to their billions of people to fuel their energy needs and grow their economy.
1068  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a Myth and not Real on: June 04, 2022, 05:10:57 PM
European Union inflation rate 8.1 percent: https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/inflation-rate

U.S. inflation rate 8.3 percent: https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi

You are watching currency collapse in real time. Is your argument that this is not government induced? What explanation do you have for a consumer of any of these currencies having lost their purchasing power by 8 percent from the same time last year other than government irresponsibility.


It is just that they receive less due to inflation. But, all businesses have ups and downs. Why do you mention the borrowing business in the forum about shares in the nonexistenent business?

You are attacking decentralization and making the argument of centralization in your original post and I've provided you two demonstrable metrics of centralization overreach. The inflation rate does not magically go up on its own. I don't understand what you mean by a "borrowing business."
Why do you want to talk about inflation here?

Because inflation was the result of centralization and future borrowing of funds the government was not able to produce. Bitcoin is deflationary. You don't get to create more coins because you want to artificially stimulate the economy to support COVID lockdowns.

You outlined the traditional financial system in your original post:

Example 3. Fiat currency system. This system is characterized by the possession of currency units created by the banks. And now the test: are people who invested in this system able to benefit without selling the currency units to new investors? Yes. The banks are in the business of issuing loans to borrowers and securing the loans with collaterals. That's how the currency units are created in the first place. When loans are granted, the borrowers go to the market with currency units and trade them with people for their goods, services, and labor. In other words, people invest these goods, services and labor in the fiat currency system. Finally, based on their loan contracts, the borrowers have the liability to return the currency units back to the banks. So they are forced to work for people who hold the units. Alternatively, they are forced to sell goods and services to these holders. And that's how the holders of fiat currencies are able to benefit without new investors. But what if the borrowers default on their loans? Well then the banks will first seize the collaterals. And then sell those collaterals to people who hold currency units. That's because these units are the liabilities of the banks and the banks must withdraw them from the market to liquidate the unpaid loans. The collaterals of the borrowers are therefore the second way how the holders of the currency units are able to benefit without selling these units to new investors. This system therefore also passed the test. It's not a scam.


Those currency units are centralized and created out of thin air with arbitrary metrics. How does the current fiat system pass your test when the entire system was built to fail, evident by a consumer losing nearly 10 percent of their purchasing power within a 12 month span via inflation? Does that sound like a structured system that is not a scam?  You're describing a basic loan system that utilizes fiat as the medium when crypto currency could accomplish the same. And knowing that something like Bitcoin can't be created out of thin air to bail out irresponsible lenders, it might give the big banks some pause if they begin issuing loans out to people they know cannot pay them back. See the U.S. 2008 housing crisis.
1069  Economy / Economics / Re: Jamie Dimon says ‘brace yourself’ for an economic hurricane on: June 04, 2022, 04:28:49 AM

Elon Musk thinks the same thing, it's not just him: https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-musk-says-tesla-needs-cut-staff-by-10-pauses-all-hiring-2022-06-03/ He's planning on cutting his staff and pausing hiring because of what the economic projections look like. Not that Elon Musk's word should be taken with unequvical certainty, it just gives you an idea that many of the industry heads believe the economy is headed for a downturn. I agree with you, JP Morgan is probably no different than any other large banking institution, but the signs of economic hardship aren't conspiracies. High inflation in the US and EU region, slow recovery post COVID, and the war in Ukraine putting harsh strain on resources with an already strained supply chain plagued with shortages all point to a rough global economy incoming.

As big of a scumbag Jamie is, at least he actually understand the world of finance.  Elon is not an economist nor is he a financial advisor of any kind.  Elon is notorious for speaking on things he does not understand (cryptocurrency being one).  Not to mention he loves to try an manipulate markets.  I dislike him almost as much as Jamie.

Jamie Dimon is one of the most corrupt human being on the planet, and runs one of the most corrupt companies on the planet.  JP Morgan Chase bank has over 36 BILLION dollars in fines just since the year 2000 ( https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/jpmorgan-chase ).  The guy would sell his own mothers soul if he thought it would benefit Chase. 

He actually admits this in the article quoted too, the man professing himself as a "red-blooded, free market capitalist".

I don't consider myself woke at all but that doesn't mean I think his school of Wall Street Wolf is the way to run things.

Those fines you mention? They and banks like them pay them willingly. I have someone close who says they even budget fines into their annual spending... they hire expensive consultants to work out what amount of fines they should be expected to pay. Simply because it's more profitable to pay fines than to not profit.

I hear few banks ever get that budget line into over-expenditure. That's because enforcement simply can't catch up to their misdeeds.

That's exactly right..the expect for these types of fines because they know they'll get away with more than they get caught, and the benefiting (profiting) of it greatly outweighs the fines.  Working in finance is actually what let me to my love for bitcoin, and namely big banks.  Having gotten to understand the industry and working with institutions the big banks are notoriously the most corrupt of all.  I hate Chase with a passion and passionately sell against them any chance I get.

To be clear, I don't like him much either. My point is that the large corporations are predicting an economic recession and many economists are too. They just disagree about when the recession is coming because it can be too hard to pinpoint. That's not to minimize the certainty (as much as one can be certain about something related to the economy) of a recession. Post COVID spending sprees have their consequences. It's not as if this is completely unforseeable.
1070  Economy / Economics / Re: Covid omicron version 2.0 monkeypox coming and markets on: June 03, 2022, 08:59:34 PM
Monkeypox does not have the same attributes as COVID, so you'll be mistaken if you think the markets will react the same way it did with COVID. It only began circulating because the media what's their hysteria driven headlines.

Most people are wise to the con that was COVID-19 lockdown strategies. Countries can't afford to lockdown nor do normal citizens believe the economy should be shut down for a disease that only effects a minority of people severely. Monkeypox seems to be spread through sexual contact as well, so lockdowns wouldn't even be appropriate.
1071  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Diplomatic, economic, military coordination by US and Israel to stop Iran Nukes. on: June 03, 2022, 06:46:42 PM
Let go of the nukes in your coven, then we can talk.

This is the problem. No one wants to get rid of their nukes. The question is: would you rather have a country like Great Britain have the nukes, or an islamic dictatorship like Iran?

It'd be better if no one owned nuclear weapons. Ideally, you shouldn't be indebted to another nation to maintain the peace or risk a nuclear winter. We just accept the current predicament because the countries with the nukes are supposedly the responsible ones. Everyone in the international community has agreed that Iran is not responsible.
1072  Economy / Economics / Re: Jamie Dimon says ‘brace yourself’ for an economic hurricane on: June 03, 2022, 04:28:21 PM
Jamie Dimon is one of the most corrupt human being on the planet, and runs one of the most corrupt companies on the planet.  JP Morgan Chase bank has over 36 BILLION dollars in fines just since the year 2000 ( https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/jpmorgan-chase ).  The guy would sell his own mothers soul if he thought it would benefit Chase. 

As a financial advisor I've worked directly and indirectly with most of the major financial company players, and I can tell you first hand how awful and corrupt Chase is.  I've also had several close friends who've worked for them and they all agree. 

So moral of the story being, don't fully trust anything this scumbag says.  Just remember his main goal is to profit off of you, period.

Elon Musk thinks the same thing, it's not just him: https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-musk-says-tesla-needs-cut-staff-by-10-pauses-all-hiring-2022-06-03/ He's planning on cutting his staff and pausing hiring because of what the economic projections look like. Not that Elon Musk's word should be taken with unequvical certainty, it just gives you an idea that many of the industry heads believe the economy is headed for a downturn. I agree with you, JP Morgan is probably no different than any other large banking institution, but the signs of economic hardship aren't conspiracies. High inflation in the US and EU region, slow recovery post COVID, and the war in Ukraine putting harsh strain on resources with an already strained supply chain plagued with shortages all point to a rough global economy incoming.
1073  Economy / Economics / Re: COVID had widened the gap between world's richest and poorest on: June 03, 2022, 03:05:05 PM
This is very unfortunate. It does seem that bad events affect people with fewer resources more heavily than others, but it's another thing when someone is actually profiting from a situation that causes lots of suffering to others.
It was painfully obvious that pretty much every company wanted to profit from it. Just look at how many companies released some sort of branded face mask...face masks which aren't even that effective compared to surgical masks or better yet rated face masks. However, they were selling them with the premise that they would help. It was disgusting beyond belief.

Then you had people basically buying toilet roll, and bottled water on mass, and trying to sell it with a massive chunk of money on it. If anything, the pandemic proved to me how much people actually care about people, which isn't a lot, and how much they value money, which is the number one driving factor of most people's existence, which is sad to think.

I do understand that this isn't exactly their doing, we're pressured to think like this by our economy, but that doesn't make it any less wrong to do.

The profit motive existed for every company. The mask hysteria was government sponsored. The companies that produced PPE were doing so at the government's behest. The issue was policy makers forcing small businesses to shut down or curtail their business activity through COVID restrictions while allowing multi-national corporations the continued ability to operate. The biggest winners were the online retailers like Amazon. Small physical retail stores could not meet the government's demands for COVID restrictions and people were terrified to leave their homes and elected to do online shopping. Amazon came out on top.


COVID wasn't what increased the wealth gap, it was incompetent government policy. Of course if the small businesses are eliminated, where else would consumers go? The only option left are the giant corporations that already lay on piles of cash.
1074  Economy / Economics / Re: Countries with the most expensive fuel | Greece's case study on: June 03, 2022, 02:53:38 PM
In my country (India), we have a strange situation. The gasoline and diesel prices have increased only by around 5% during the last 6 months. The reason is that the government reduced taxes on fuel, and then asked the public-owned refiners to subsidize the fuel. PSUs such as Indian Oil Corporation are incurring huge losses for every liter of fuel they sell on market. Now I don't know for how long they will be able to continue with this system. Because at some point, the subsidies need to stop. Else these companies are going to become bankrupt.

India is still doing trades with Russia for their oil. I haven't kept up with Russian oil exports but it caused some concern for the West that India was still electing to do business with Russia despite sanction efforts. A source I found suggests India is not looking to stop their cheap oil binge: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/31/energy/india-snapping-up-russian-oil-intl-hnk/index.html

All the fuel costs in Europe skyrocketing is really by choice. If they want to do business with Russia and lower their fuel costs, they can. India's doing well for themselves and I don't find the war in Ukraine a compelling reason to send fuel costs soaring. Good for them.
1075  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a Myth and not Real on: June 03, 2022, 01:17:46 PM
If you're so anti-crypto I don't see why you're on this forum. Bitcoin is as popular as its ever been. Post COVID, people recognize that decentralization is the way financial systems should be run. It took all of 3 months for governments all around the world to permanently destroy their currencies through artificial economic stimulation via money printing. EU and the U.S are seeing high inflation numbers and low economic growth. You think these are signs that people are somehow awakening to Bitcoin's antics and NOT traditional currencies?
I am on this form to save people from scam. Governments destroyed nothing. Borrowing business of the banks and the borrowers is still going on and those who hold shares in this business (fiat currency) are still receiving goods, services, labor or collaterals from the borrowers. It is just that they receive less due to inflation.

European Union inflation rate 8.1 percent: https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/inflation-rate

U.S. inflation rate 8.3 percent: https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi

You are watching currency collapse in real time. Is your argument that this is not government induced? What explanation do you have for a consumer of any of these currencies having lost their purchasing power by 8 percent from the same time last year other than government irresponsibility.


It is just that they receive less due to inflation. But, all businesses have ups and downs. Why do you mention the borrowing business in the forum about shares in the nonexistenent business?

You are attacking decentralization and making the argument of centralization in your original post and I've provided you two demonstrable metrics of centralization overreach. The inflation rate does not magically go up on its own. I don't understand what you mean by a "borrowing business."
1076  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the Fed wants corporate America to have a hiring freeze on: June 02, 2022, 08:22:50 PM
If their goal is to slow job growth, then maybe they're on the right track.

Jobs report is over 150k less than projections: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/02/adp-jobs-report-may-2022.html

It's an endless loop. Goods and services cost more, therefore salaries must increase in order to maintain a competitive market wage. Fed is playing a dangerous game trying to balance the economy and steer it away from recession despite how much money they printed in 2020/2021. You don't get to choose both lower inflation and avoiding economic recession.

Ok, so I read the text ten times and I don't see any paragraph quoting either a FED spokesperson or from BOA or anything that is not a personal opinion and 3 words paragraphs extracted from god knows what context.

I'm skeptical as well but given what the fed has been doing over past years this type of incompetence seems in line with the norm.
1077  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a Myth and not Real on: June 02, 2022, 06:59:55 PM
Crypto is scam in general because it creates a system that issues the certificates to lure people to invest, and then people are able to return the investments only if new investors buy the certificates. Hence, a modern day investment scam.

Nah, crypto is about decentralization and individual empowerment. Nothing can be used to mislead people, and none of these fraudulent practices can work here.
In fact, I can only say that crypto is the most promising form of money creation system we have in this era and crypto and blockchain are here to stay.

Yes, that's the story you must preach because you're not able to return your investment from the system whose certificates you hold. You need new investors and you must trick them to buy your worthless certificates by talking about decentralization, empowerment, how your certificates will save the humanity, make poor people rich, how they are equivalent to Jesus, and so on.  I understand what you're doing. It's just that people don't buy this nonsense anymore.

If you're so anti-crypto I don't see why you're on this forum. Bitcoin is as popular as its ever been. Post COVID, people recognize that decentralization is the way financial systems should be run. It took all of 3 months for governments all around the world to permanently destroy their currencies through artificial economic stimulation via money printing. EU and the U.S are seeing high inflation numbers and low economic growth. You think these are signs that people are somehow awakening to Bitcoin's antics and NOT traditional currencies?
1078  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Computer Scientists say Crypto Industry is Misleading??? on: June 02, 2022, 06:36:22 PM
    • “We’re essentially wasting millions of dollars worth of equipment because we’ve decided that we don’t trust the banking system.”

    And whose fault is that? Is it the consumer's fault for choosing alternative assets/currencies, or is it the government's fault for mismanaging fiscal policy so badly that they drive consumers away from the state sponsored currency under the jurisdiction they live in?

    The banking systems and their incestuous relationship with the government have shown themselves to be flawed and inherently corrupt. The palpable irony of computer scientists referring to crypto as as the unproven financial instruments as if people are so ignorant to the realities of the current centralized system is beyond the pale.

    I don't take these clowns seriously. Neither should you.[/list]
    1079  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russian head of the committee on Energy about selling oil and gas in Bitcoin on: June 02, 2022, 05:11:45 PM
    This story seems to have gone no where. Haven't heard any updates nor any reports that they followed through with this idea of selling energy for Bitcoin -- it wouldn't make any sense to begin with.

    If they wanted to prop up rubles, they would do what they threatened earlier which is demand payment in rubles and force countries to use Russian currency. Bitcoin doesn't prop up Russian currency, it weakens it.
    1080  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chipotle now accepts crypto payments (only in US stores for now) on: June 02, 2022, 04:21:47 PM
    One may say that it's not a real deal as they will do it via 3rd party service (in this case Flexa) but its a good news nevertheless and a step in right direction. Expecting that these big chains accepts bitcoin directly is kinda naive

    I don't see this as an issue. If online commerce platforms want to use 3rd party providers to facilitate their Bitcoin transactions, then so be it. They're still allowing users an option to pay with crypto. We're a long while off from mainstream adoption to the point of major businesses accepting crypto themselves and housing the infrastructure to do so on their platforms. It's a whole lot easier to outsource it to a 3rd party provider and let the consumers decide if they elect to use it.
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