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on: January 28, 2015, 04:57:10 PM
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another promise/lie was you will be able to sell the miners in the market place, an the primes will be double the value worth $100. I'm pretty sure he thought this was going to be true. He didn't promise a specific dollar amount of price support for it, but he did lay out some reasons for his prediction. It's pretty clear that he thought the ability to convert to Hashstaker Primes would make them worth $100. I don't think this is fraud like some of the other claims.
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on: January 26, 2015, 04:08:24 PM
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I'd like to thank everyone, especially Suchmoon, for posting here and making the crypto community aware of the Gawminers scam. I believe we saved a lot of innocent people's money, maybe even hundreds of thousands of dollars worth.
Theres some good investigating work that most likely convinced new people to avoid Gaw's fraud and helped people realize that they are just based off of lies and fraud.
I know I avoided losing money largely because of this thread. Thanks to all of the posters of a couple of months ago.
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on: January 24, 2015, 01:55:02 PM
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I love this post. I usually don't care about hacking like this, but, IMO, when you post a source's name, especially a government source, you step over a huge thick line. The btcjam account references a facebook account with over 900 friends. It's possible that it could be a fake account that spammed to get friends, but it's worth checking out in case it's not. Coinfire should probably contact btcjam (or get his lawyer to do it).
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on: January 23, 2015, 09:56:50 PM
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The "leak" from the SEC was likely not actually what would be termed a leak, but rather an intentional release of information to make the party being investigated panic and thus further incriminate themselves by "digging up the bodies to move them", etc. It is this type of thing that can prove intent, which is required when trying to prove fraud. coinfire mentioned he went to lengths to redact information to protect his source.
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on: January 23, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
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Here's what I don't get.
People are still buying XPY. prima facie this looks like a good investment. You buy XPY for a couple of bucks, then, some time in the next few years, you get $20 for it.
What I don't get is why people think GAW won't go bankrupt in the near future. If they go bankrupt, then this $20 obligation will be one of the first things to go, and people will just get their coins back from escrow. Unless they have some kind of way to generate revenue, I don't see how they can stay around more than a few months. How are they making money? Volume on hashmarket has died, hashstakers aren't being sold, and any paycoins they have aren't worth very much. How can this company stay afloat? And if it can't stay afloat, why would anyone buy XPY?
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on: January 23, 2015, 02:41:53 PM
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No, I guess the improbable is true.
There is only one public Facebook page in the entire universe belonging to a Joe Mordica.
Two Joe Mordicas of similar age went to USM within about 5 years of each other.
(The latter is gleamed from the following. The passed Mordica was a student at USM when he died at 24 in 2012. In 2015, a bio for CTO Mordica has him with seven years industry experience. Now, if you're assuming CTO Mordica isn't lying, these can match up if you count jobs held in/before college as industry experience. Which people usually do.)
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