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461  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 28, 2015, 04:57:10 PM
another promise/lie was you will be able to sell the miners in the market place,
an the primes will be double the value worth $100.

I'm pretty sure he thought this was going to be true. He didn't promise a specific dollar amount of price support for it, but he did lay out some reasons for his prediction. It's pretty clear that he thought the ability to convert to Hashstaker Primes would make them worth $100.

I don't think this is fraud like some of the other claims.
462  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 04:01:44 PM
The only detail I want is to know what revenue stream will be funding the monthly payments. This could actually be worth putting money into if I thought GAW would be at all solvent once they start this program. I just don't know where they are going to get the money to fund these obligations.
463  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 02:45:50 PM
I could be or couldnt be joking, its only not a joke if im contacted with an offer Wink

We know it's a joke because you stipulate a "1-1.5 Million/year salary". If it was for reals, you'd just require the low end of that, because the low end is the actual stipulation. You changed it to in "one to one point five" because it sounds funnier.
464  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 26, 2015, 04:08:24 PM
I'd like to thank everyone, especially Suchmoon, for posting here and making the crypto community aware of the Gawminers scam.
I believe we saved a lot of innocent people's money, maybe even hundreds of thousands of dollars worth.

Theres some good investigating work that most likely convinced new people to avoid Gaw's fraud and helped people realize that they are just based off of lies and fraud.

I know I avoided losing money largely because of this thread. Thanks to all of the posters of a couple of months ago.
465  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 24, 2015, 01:55:02 PM
How accurate is this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10240164#msg10240164

Is it confirmed that only the account holder inside would see this message? Because the poster "Bl4nk" left her foot prints all over the place

1. here she's talking about her loan

https://archive.today/OEzW7

2. her loan leads to account:

https://btcjam.com/listings/28493-4

I love this post. I usually don't care about hacking like this, but, IMO, when you post a source's name, especially a government source, you step over a huge thick line.

The btcjam account references a facebook account with over 900 friends. It's possible that it could be a fake account that spammed to get friends, but it's worth checking out in case it's not. Coinfire should probably contact btcjam (or get his lawyer to do it).
466  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 09:56:50 PM
The "leak" from the SEC was likely not actually what would be termed a leak, but rather an intentional release of information to make the party being investigated panic and thus further incriminate themselves by "digging up the bodies to move them", etc. It is this type of thing that can prove intent, which is required when trying to prove fraud.

coinfire mentioned he went to lengths to redact information to protect his source.
467  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 09:45:33 PM
FWIW, I was wrong about the facebook being down. It was just facebook having issues, I guess. The person's page still exists to the public.

Still, this can't be good.
468  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 08:52:05 PM
Jezus you can't leave this thread for more than a few hours. So coinfire has been attacked by GAW.

Now what happened to hashtalk?

It looks like the same person took down hashtalk. Probably just did all of this for lulz. Especially potentially ruining the career of coinfire's SEC source.
469  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 08:38:00 PM
who said it specifically?

A user named "Bl4nk".
470  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 08:23:57 PM
The user posted "Time to put hashtalk to rest." right before it went down.
471  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 08:17:50 PM
the person that was faked in the post has worked for SEC 2 decades. do you really think it could be caliber of such person? Cheesy

Yes, I do.
472  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 08:10:06 PM
The source's facebook page is gone. Shit just got real for that person.
473  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 08:08:07 PM
Now the suspense comes from finding out how the SEC responds to the leak. Will the person be fired? Will the SEC release some statement on the matter? Will they just ignore it?
474  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 07:48:12 PM
oh shit they named the SEC source
475  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 07:41:10 PM

I do not understand these people at all. This makes about as much sense to me as murdering people over cartoons.
476  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 07:37:51 PM
People are mad at coinfire for what? For giving people a heads-up about an possible SEC investigation before it's made public? It seems like PayCoiners would especially like having that information early. Reporting that early doesn't really harm anyone except the SEC, and that's the entity PayCoiners would like to obstruct anyway.
477  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
Here's what I don't get.

People are still buying XPY. prima facie this looks like a good investment. You buy XPY for a couple of bucks, then, some time in the next few years, you get $20 for it.

What I don't get is why people think GAW won't go bankrupt in the near future. If they go bankrupt, then this $20 obligation will be one of the first things to go, and people will just get their coins back from escrow. Unless they have some kind of way to generate revenue, I don't see how they can stay around more than a few months. How are they making money? Volume on hashmarket has died, hashstakers aren't being sold, and any paycoins they have aren't worth very much. How can this company stay afloat? And if it can't stay afloat, why would anyone buy XPY?
478  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 02:45:14 PM
I think the Joe Mordica thing is dead. There just happened to be two people with that fairly rare name two years apart in age who went to the same college.

Freaky, but that's where the evidence points.
479  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 02:41:53 PM
No, I guess the improbable is true.

There is only one public Facebook page in the entire universe belonging to a Joe Mordica.

Two Joe Mordicas of similar age went to USM within about 5 years of each other.

(The latter is gleamed from the following. The passed Mordica was a student at USM when he died at 24 in 2012. In 2015, a bio for CTO Mordica has him with seven years industry experience. Now, if you're assuming CTO Mordica isn't lying, these can match up if you count jobs held in/before college as industry experience. Which people usually do.)
480  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 02:04:55 PM
Yeah thats the conspiracy theory going around the only way to be sure is to have someone contact the University of Southern Mississippi and find out if there was ever a Joe Mordica enrolled there.

No, you mean if there were ever TWO Joe Mordicas enrolled there. We know the one who passed went to USM.
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