Garza's sending himself emails threatening his daughter? He sends emails "threatening" someone's mom in the lamest way possible (e.g. no details).

This guy has lost his mind. He thinks this is, what, going to get him mineral.com? The scammer can't deal with being scammed, so he lashes out with crazy fantasy.

I love how he called BS right away. It's 50K. Who's going to do anything overseas for 50K? They might shakedown Garza for a million, but 50K is like the cost of a latte in Australia.

I'd actually like to see Vadala's response. Did Gateway become the project for which the primes are being held as collateral? If so, it looks like he should give them back.

However, I wouldn't put it past Garza to have multiple deals and have the primes used as collateral in a separate deal, then post this one as "proof" of no primes.

Hmmm, which scammer to trust ....

But is there any evidence he's done anything wrong? I guess he would know more than us, but nothing so far has pointed to him being anything but the protomark. The only thing he's guilty of is trying to hide financial difficulties from his wife.

Why would the guy who's been scammed the most want to protect him? If Fraser even glances at those emails, he'll realize what a liar Garza was about everything. He's lost hundreds of thousands of dollars to this guy; what possible motive does he have to protect him?

Wow, he must be getting some very serious threats from his early investors. Encouraging people to file a false police report is only a length you go to if you REALLY want to convince people that you didn't sign away everything in bad deals.

I think he might be getting threats of physical harm. Like real ones, not internet ones.

Oh, it's worse than that in the emails. He gets Juliette to cut checks for all kinds of things. He basically extracts money from the business at will, to hell with the other equity holder(s).

I consider myself a reasonable person, and there was reason to think that Hashlets of the non-Zen variety were real up until the inbox was leaked. GAW was not a Ponzi until they stopped buying enough hash from China to cover their fraudulent "hosted" miner sales. There were stages to this:

1) dropship miners
2) sell actual hosted miners
3) sell hosted miners and cover their hashrate through bulk buys (beginning of fraud, no ponzi, possibly sustainable)
4) sell more hosted miners than they could cover through bulk buys (beginning of ponzi)
5) sell hashlets, which is what they were actually selling and lying about in (3), only now there's no backing
6) move everyone to hashpoints, lie about their value (end of ponzi, beginning of new fraud)
7) make up a coin that seems innovative, but release a completely different coin (more fraud)
make up a bunch of other fraudulent companies like Coinstand where what is happening/being constructed differs radically from what is actually planned or executed (more fraud)

In real time, I didn't catch on to the fraud until (7), and, until the leaked emails, I didn't think it happened before (6). There was still a good chunk of time where hosted mining was real. It wasn't until the emails that we knew exactly when things happened.

A lot of Garza's statements are contradicted by his own emails. Take, for example,


That's impossible. We know the status of his accounts prior to everything imploding. He couldn't be an accredited investor because he didn't have a million. IIRC, he had less than $20,000 liquid, and his "accounts" showed a negative net worth. Now, he could be in the black because of real estate equity (although he owes Fraser for that still) or hidden bit coins, but it's hard to go from partial equity in a couple of properties to a multi-million dollar loss.

That loss could only come from two places. He either claimed a great deal of equity in his business and overvalued it, or he took Paycoin's valuation at its peak and valued his holdings off of that.

This guy has never been worth close to a million dollars in any real way. As soon as he started selling his XPY holdings, the price plummeted, which is why you can't value large holdings off a spot price.

I was wondering when a few people would pool their coins into a multi-sig address and start the hyperstaking.

We don't know how much BTC Garza extracted from GAW. He potentially could live off of that for years.

He may have given away his XPY authority in order to bitch about it later and get his investors' enforcers off his back, but if you remember the emails, he was constantly looking for places to flip BTC into USD after Buttercoin rejected him and Coinbase cancelled his account. For all we know, he could be pulling $1000 a day from Kraken, Cryptsy, etc. by flipping his BTC reserve.

Or he could be penniless and living off of whatever credit he has left. It's hard to tell. I guess we just shouldn't assume Garza is powerless. Heck, he could still have access to Fraser's funds, although Fraser would have to be an idiot to have not cut Garza off after the email leak.

Why should we believe any of that? It's much more likely that Garza's dissatisfied with a deal and wants to back out. We've seen this kind of thing a few times before, and each time Garza was lying. Why should this be any different?

Yeah, a lot of that doesn't add up. If he's not in the US, then 99.9999999% of the time he's a 1099 contractor not a W-2 employee. If he's a contractor, of course you can give public reviews of his performance.

He said "will be". He's probably waiting for someone to finish doublechecking his analysis so he doesn't burn too many coins. At least, that's what I'd do.

His theories on how coins were being dumped ended up being right. Because he went out on a limb and spent hours tracing transactions based on a crazy-sounding coin mixing theory that ended up being right, he gets respect. Also, he called me out once when I was inadvertently promoting the scam which gets him more respect.

What have you done to earn respect? To wit, Paul Revere and suchmoon are the only guys who have entered into this quagmire and emerged with more integrity. Everyone else has collapsed under the weight of the muck that surrounds anything involving GAW or XPY.

So what are you going to do with the 4K XPY if not use them as a bounty? Donate them to charity?

Is he going to keep them? That would be unethical. I think giving whatever coins that resulted from the hyperstaking as a bounty for discovering the activity seems perfectly reasonable.

Thanks. The first one (107...) still failed, but the second one (162...) hit the spot. Everything's working. Thanks!

I see the source in github has the same version as mine, 70122.

I assume there's something like addnode for PayCon. Does anyone have a 70122 node I can connect to? I'm hitting 100% 70121, and I still have no connections.

I downloaded the Mac wallet from the link in the OP. I keep getting this error:

"partner XX.XX.XX.XXXX:9455 using obsolete version 70121; disconnecting"

The version in the info is v1.5.0.0PayCon-1.0.5

I have had no luck compiling from scratch. Is there a newer Mac download, or do I need to just keep working on compiling?

Edit: It looks like the problem is that everyone else is running an older version to which I can't connect. Should I downgrade? Is there a place to download an older Mac version? I am getting zero connections right now, and I've had this open for over an hour.