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on: April 15, 2015, 10:07:57 PM
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I'd love to see some acknowledgment that the Vaultbreakers were a scam from the start.
I bet that info will be somewhere in the 5gb haystack. Good luck finding it. I'm pretty sure the best we'll get is what suchmoon said. There are no communications with manufacturers or shippers or anything that show up when I grep the file for "Vaultbreaker". Now, they did call them "vb", so I could just be missing all of the manufacturing updates, but I doubt it. It looks like Vaultbreakers were just a way to introduce Prime Hashlets. If only there was an ex-employee with a conscience who could clear this up... |
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on: April 15, 2015, 09:02:09 PM
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NOTICE THE DATE on that file... since he's located in TX, but using a UT (or NV?) address, we'll be generous and say that was prepared NOVEMBER 10, 2014.... so, he was always going to run with the funds. He didn't just blunder into a lot of screwed up stuff and a pack of bad developers....
Oh, yeah, after they started with the virtual (I SAID IT AGAIN) miners, it wasn't long before it became clear where this was going. Finding explicit statements in the emails is tough, though. I think he kept most of the planning in meetings. |
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on: April 15, 2015, 08:56:52 PM
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How do you know mordica said he was expensive? I ask because the strategy for shuffling funds off shore w/out taxes was to use a non-profit front and it's kind of interesting that mordica suddenly is running a non-profit.
Well, that was a literal quote from Mordica, included because he misspelled "too", and that makes me giggle. Then there's this: Not a problem bro. We're here in case you need anything. Hope to see you
all in a few weeks in Mia.
On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Josh Garza <josh@gaw.com> wrote:
> You too!
>
> I wanted to move forward with you guys. But Dan said we needed to have s
> bunch of stuff in order within the company first. Or many states would just
> reject us :(
>
> On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Leo Iruke <leoslaw@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wanted to wish you and your family Merry Christmas, wishing you an
>> equally amazing new year.
>>
>> Leo
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on: April 15, 2015, 08:47:41 PM
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The mechanics of offshoring their assets eludes me. It looks like they were going to use some strategy involving Buttercoin, then Buttercoin dropped their account because they're not rachet, so IDK. The only other institution I've found mentioned is Express Coin, so maybe they ended up using them to sell their BTC and deposit funds in an account in some other country.
Edit: Buckeye2015 answered the offshore logistics question in rather grandiose fashion. Kudos.
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on: April 15, 2015, 03:59:13 PM
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Since apparently every conversation ever had is public knowledge . . .
I know, right? What I'm most interested in is the how something like this develops. They started by dropshipping miners. Then they moved to hosting. Then at some point they said fuck it and stopped having actual hardware backing up their hosted miners. That last one is the big leap. Who on earth would think it's a good idea to make "virtual" (yes, I wrote the forbidden word) miners instead of doing what they actually claim to be doing? I just don't get that jump. Up until that point, they seem pretty legit. Then, things just snowball, and the Paycoin fraud is almost a natural progression. It's that first jump that confuses me, and that conversation doesn't appear to be in any email. Why would a seemingly legit company suddenly decide to lie to its consumers and sell something completely different than what the consumer actually gets? And it's not just one guy. It's like four guys (well, three to five guys) at the same time decided to make that leap. Maybe I'm misreading stuff, but that's how it seems to have played out. Fortunately, one of those guys is penitent, so once it's legally viable, we may actually get a description of how all of it went down. |
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on: April 15, 2015, 03:41:13 PM
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I think the funniest thing is him tracking his wife's every move. Jessica detected ignition on, Location: 54 Horseshoe Ln, 06071-2236, Somers, CT, 08/15/14 11:34 AM Jessica has triggered an IDLE alert, Location: 14 High Meadow Cir, 01028-3171, East Longmeadow, MA, 08/15/14 12:49 PM
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on: April 15, 2015, 03:25:39 PM
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From 1473735108416998100-9d1c23a5-7b7b-4d43-ba3c-bb123c090577.mbox@xxx Tue Jul 15 10:28:42 2014
From: Tim Davis <timdavis@gmail.com>
He is pushing people to review right now.
From 1473735117769552694-a7862b0a-1ffe-41db-a6ce-eac693f40b08.mbox@xxx Tue Jul 15 10:28:51 2014
From: Josh Garza <josh@geniusesatwork.com>
Yes sir
From 1473735134143476066-d80bf058-2ab1-4781-8146-f4a4710efb7d.mbox@xxx Tue Jul 15 10:29:06 2014
From: Tim Davis <timdavis@gmail.com>
Even bribing them to do it. 😃
From 1473735055822088256-2d09bed7-4296-4267-b67f-efd50f64605f.mbox@xxx Tue Jul 15 10:27:51 2014
From: Josh Garza <josh@geniusesatwork.com>
System is pretty simple right now
From 1473735065632142238-5cd7f191-5f6e-4b25-b7a6-ed69e68b3fcc.mbox@xxx Tue Jul 15 10:28:01 2014
From: Tim Davis <timdavis@gmail.com>
Good reviews take a period of time, but you can't just spit out your thoughts in 5 minutes. You have to actually review the product and take notes along the way.
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on: April 15, 2015, 03:24:40 PM
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From 1473806981922049817-58e1e109-8de0-4b4b-871e-ba60a99ee099.mbox@xxx Wed Jul 16 05:31:05 2014
From: Joe Mordica <joe@geniusesatwork.com>
should we virtualize all 5-chip units? sell on ebay?
From 1473807041021262691-83b39689-9d54-49f3-8e8e-fcdcf7368128.mbox@xxx Wed Jul 16 05:32:02 2014
From: Joe Mordica <joe@geniusesatwork.com>
also, i'll let dan know those blades are all virtual
From 1473807090669216542-9cb9be80-b37e-4dc9-ad4b-c53a8b114d50.mbox@xxx Wed Jul 16 05:32:49 2014
From: Joe Mordica <joe@geniusesatwork.com>
you thought we moved 5-chip devices to virtual devices?
From 1473807142524445381-c36823f9-bab0-49a3-b389-dede435009e7.mbox@xxx Wed Jul 16 05:33:39 2014
From: Joe Mordica <joe@geniusesatwork.com>
how do you want to proceed with the sale of blades/5-chip?
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on: April 15, 2015, 03:09:47 PM
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From: Josh Garza <josh@geniusesatwork.com>
To: Dan Pease <dpease@geniusesatwork.com>
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Thank, so want him off my back
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Dan Pease <dpease@geniusesatwork.com>
wrote:
> Ok I will stop and get thus together.
> On Jul 18, 2014 9:06 AM, "Josh Garza" <josh@geniusesatwork.com> wrote:
>
>> I need to know asap, before anything is cleaned as I want to get stuart
>> his money back
>>
>> A butt load of money will be in on monday
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Dan Pease <dpease@geniusesatwork.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Let me do the numbers. I think so. I just need to make sure that payroll
>>> for gaw hsi and labs go though and we should be close to 200k. I will make
>>> sure the checks will clear and then the rest I will hold off till Monday.
>>> I'll be in touch after I get e. Longmeadow clean.
>>> On Jul 18, 2014 8:59 AM, "Josh Garza" <josh@geniusesatwork.com> wrote:
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>>>> good morning!
>>>>
>>>> Can we scrap 200k together this morning by holding off on things?
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on: April 15, 2015, 02:57:29 PM
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So close I can taste it... From 1474372822657976576-c92cec59-6005-4559-bf9e-d019634fb19b.mbox@xxx Tue Jul 22 11:24:53 2014
From: Joe Mordica <joe@geniusesatwork.com>
Add DataCenter Model<br>Add additional fields to Device Model<br>Add `kilowatts` field to Machine model<br>Use mongoose-timestamp in DataCenter Model<br>Replace fee fields with kilowatts in machines tmpl<br>Validate kilowatts in client side admin js<br>Accept kilowatts in machines socket handler<br>Update machines tests for kilowatt field<br>Add total payout field to Device model<br>Add datacenters socket handler<br>Added route for datacenters<br>Add data centers to sidebar<br>Add datacenters template<br>Check id first<br>Added datacenters dt api<br>Add client side datacenters logic<br>Added tests for datacenters socket handler<br>Added cache.refreshDataCenters<br>Added cache.getDataCenters<br>Add datacenter field to Code Model<br>Change args to object, cb<br>Save datacenter to code<br>Added admin.datacenters middleware<br>Use admin.datacenters mw for /codes<br>Add data center select input for device creation<br>require datacenter in codes.create<br>Add client logic for datacenters in dev creation<br>Update codes socket handler tests<br>Check for datacenter in users.addDevice<br>Added TODO to users handler<br>Use admin.datacenters mw for GET /users<br>Code cleanup<br>Add data center to modal on users page<br>Add client side logic for checking datacenter<br>Update users socket handler tests<br>Validate data center<br>Save device totalPayout in recordPayout
From 1474372887464655542-4243b3e1-4f3e-4c75-9415-1608c14982a5.mbox@xxx Tue Jul 22 11:25:55 2014
From: Joe Mordica <joe@geniusesatwork.com>
These items and new models needed to be added in order to add the fields so we are doing the correct calculations. These are all of the key points we discussed this morning that had to be done in order to make this spit out the right numbers.
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on: April 15, 2015, 02:40:27 PM
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So, so close... From 1474562955246989834-0a6b7c47-363b-458a-8f25-d731ec9a20b5.mbox@xxx Fri Jul 25 01:46:58 2014
From: Eric Capuano <eric@zenminer.com>
Hah, I was just about to submit and answer on that thread man
From 1474562972792113524-88af7ed5-46fc-4ef3-adaa-0e1f2cc112e4.mbox@xxx Fri Jul 25 01:47:15 2014
From: Eric Capuano <eric@zenminer.com>
Hey man, thats a little dangerous no?
From 1474562980487405744-0f4953d2-ea62-46d0-9e9f-fb45f2b9343c.mbox@xxx Fri Jul 25 01:47:22 2014
From: Eric Capuano <eric@zenminer.com>
The pools might see that and public refute us
From 1474563033101439348-10c3834e-d00c-4a28-bf6b-483f6ea67830.mbox@xxx Fri Jul 25 01:48:12 2014
From: Amanda Veilleux <amanda@gawminers.com>
I believe I may have done this prior to our conversation yesterday and coordinated with Eric. I had thought if i coordinated with him it would be ok but that is not the case
From 1474563102246771251-3e2a6050-2af3-450f-b9d2-a8f0b69f3384.mbox@xxx Fri Jul 25 01:49:18 2014
From: Eric Capuano <eric@zenminer.com>
Is that not a concern?
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