And back again at setting new several months' market lows. Is it even possible that the stooges continue ignoring the obvious? I mean Supernet rebounded from stee losses and so did all of James' holdings... except Vericoin that continues setting atl's. The message couldn't possibly be louder or clearer: YOU ARE GOING IN THE WRONG FUCKING DIRECTION!
The arrest of Defcom hasn't sent you a clear enough message? The market has. The dismantling (and arrest of responsible parties) of over 400 TOR websites with "decentralized" goods and services, neither? The market is getting it... until what level are you going to continue "taking it"? 4000? 3000? 2000? the hundreds?
I just wonder what level would it take for even the nutcases to start jumping ship... amazing. Simply amazing...
It seems to me the developers (unfortunately) have given up - given up what they have never really started. They tried and VRC is just not good enough to be in the race. The 5 posts per day on the new wonderful forum indicates how the community lost all interests in the coin. They will start to listen you when the very obvious failure will be even more obvious, which will be soon in my opinion. |
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I was just wondering, do the VeriCoin developers read Barabbas' above very relevant and constructive comment and are they willing take the comments on board?
They have. Many times. Answer: We agree with most if not everything Barabbas say... it's only his way of saying it (that prevents us from actually doing anything). The same, identical in fact, applies to Scott and some "professional experts in marketing". On all MINUS the recently added warnings regarding the direction of the coin towards the dark side AND the repercussions that what they are doing now will have in their future careers. I just put them on the spot to force them to think things over quick. Hopefully, NOT for the good of the project but to shield their future, they will listen this time around, before it is too late. Oh and Doug of course will continue working on yet another version of the wallet... that won't exactly ever work right in Windows... at the end of the day. Doug's battle with the compiler to release a windows wallet that works - which hasn't happened yet - is epic. Crypto historians will write about this epic battle as the Sisyphus of crypto. In the meantime, Pnosker admitting the defeat on twitter saying that people are not interested in VRC, Wizrig is attacking Pnosker on Twitter why he made a secret deal with IE, which brings chaos to the VRC team since not long time ago Jay Jay and EffectsToCause spoke with the highest regards about WizRig in an interview. No progress, no direction, no willingness to work with the community, this coin is unfortunately dead. |
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This thread seems to be attracting heat from Tilecoin holders. Don't understand that. I hold Tilecoin, I think it's a very good project. However the focus of BitBay seems to be a much larger ecosystem. So I don't think it is a threat to Tilecoin. In anycase, IOT is going to heat up quickly in the coming year, so there will be alot more IOT focused projects coming out. No need to get upset about it.
Insofar as the marketcap & ICO, dev, will you be posting some of the dev budget? That would be very interesting to see. My guess is this would indicate both the scope and seriousness of BitBay. In anycase, the ann states that their target is to capture marketshare from some of these dinosaurs like Ebay and Ali Baba. This takes serious capital. I would be more worried about an ICO that was trying to do this with only 800 BTC like some people seem to be suggesting.
One of the problems so far in developing an fucntioning decentralized marketplace has been exactly this - a lack of capital and committed devs. My guess is that this will be how this project will be measured.
actually the story behind this is a scam group hire David Zimbeck to sell the gimmick. trust me no more development after ICO. I fear this is entirely correct. I worry David who is a good guy is going to get burned on this along with any investors. We're not here to tarnish anyone's reputation. This is a serious project with serious people involved. Smart contracts, Decentralized marketplace, full time coders in Cambodia, Marketing ect ect. There is 42 moving pieces to this puzzle and all are working well together to make this world a better place. Double deposit smart contracts WILL make this world a better place. Imagine doing business with anyone anywhere and not worrying about getting shafted. Priceless. Could you point me to the right direction to get more info about the "Double deposit smart contract", whatever, even high level information would be appreciated. |
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As I said in the BitBay thread, this is a great idea, very much worth the support of the community.
However, having an ICO is very unfortunate. Why not first deliver instead of collecting the money?
some starting funds are acceptable. let alone the amount raised by XTC is only 540btc. right now XTC team only get 180 btc. I do believe dev pay some bills from this own pocket, if we are serious about a project with huge potential. with such terms. investors are on safe side at all. only after delivery of said wallet and Dapp, dev will get the funding. from my understanding, this is certainly deliver first and take second. what do you think? These are absolutely valid points, and I don't question the integrity of the team, I am sure they are hard working and honest professionals, but because the so many scams in the altcoin market up to date, I believe this project would be lot more successful if the development precede the money collection - in long term they would profit a lot more. Additionally, the so many ICO scam destroyed our market and I think this project shouldn't have to add an other ICO to the existing ones. Anyway, I am very interested in this coin and looking at it very-very closely. Google or Yahoo ... or Alta Vista ... anyway, thanks for your thoughtful and indepth reply. |
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As I said in the BitBay thread, this is a great idea, very much worth the support of the community.
However, having an ICO is very unfortunate. Why not first deliver instead of collecting the money?
some starting funds are acceptable. let alone the amount raised by XTC is only 540btc. right now XTC team only get 180 btc. I do believe dev pay some bills from this own pocket, if we are serious about a project with huge potential. with such terms. investors are on safe side at all. only after delivery of said wallet and Dapp, dev will get the funding. from my understanding, this is certainly deliver first and take second. what do you think? These are absolutely valid points, and I don't question the integrity of the team, I am sure they are hard working and honest professionals, but because the so many scams in the altcoin market up to date, I believe this project would be lot more successful if the development precede the money collection - in long term they would profit a lot more. Additionally, the so many ICO scam destroyed our market and I think this project shouldn't have to add an other ICO to the existing ones. Anyway, I am very interested in this coin and looking at it very-very closely. |
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As I said in the BitBay thread, this is a great idea, very much worth the support of the community.
However, having an ICO is very unfortunate. Why not first deliver instead of collecting the money?
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Great idea, very good use case, however the ICO makes this project very questionable.
Why first collecting the money instead of delivering the solution? I would support this great idea without any hesitations if it wouldn't be an ICO and the money collecting element in place.
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I was just wondering, do the VeriCoin developers read Barabbas' above very relevant and constructive comment and are they willing take the comments on board?
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I am not the one who made a complete 360 in how I support the community.
The community is fine, there are good and intelligent peoples in this community, and a few toxic figures like yourself my troll friend, the pants boy or Jay Jay boy with his Bitcoin bashing agenda. Though the community is getting smaller and smaller, the 5 posts per day on your new wonderful official thread indicates how little the interest is in VeriCoin. Hopefully the transparency and objective criticism of this thread will help to gain back the trust of the market, don't you think? |
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A quick price check ... wow, a massive 4 BTC volume on the market and the price is 6K.
Keep up the good work VRC developers, as you said VRC will replace Bitcoin, it seems it's happening!
What did you expect? Weekly dev updates? Updated pool? Innovative & New gimmicks... Yes, weekly updates would be nice, and would be a very sensible act from a project that aims to gain/keep the trust of investors. The issue with the weekly updates is, there is no development and therefore nothing to update. |
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A quick price check ... wow, a massive 4 BTC volume on the market and the price is 6K.
Keep up the good work VRC developers, as you said VRC will replace Bitcoin, it seems it's happening!
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why a new thread about VRC?
It seems the VeriCoin developers don't like questions and criticism lately (once the money was collected the opinion of the community is not important any more), and therefore the developers decided to close the unmoderated Bitcointalk thread. There is no unmoderated VRC forum apart from this - unfortunately this is the only VRC thread right now where all opinions, including cheerleading and criticism are welcomed and no censorship is exercised. You are not the community and your opinion does not matter at this point. Again, sorry. Anyone who is go here: https://vericoinforums.com/You see, that's one of the reasons why the money stays away from VeriCoin and it is one of the hopeless 500 clones, because paid VRC supporters and slowly dumping figures like yourself and that Jay Jay boy throw lots of empty promises to potential investors, take the money and then you are not interested in the opinion of bag holders. No, the reason people are staying away or so you say they are is because of the idiotic crap coming from your mouth day in and day out. Again, what are you doing to affect the price in any way shape or form in a positive way? ? And no I'm not a paid supporter and surely not a dumper. Not much of a bag holder either but do know that talking shit about the coin does nothing for it. So carry on with your lectures. It's certainly amusing seeing it's just us here. Were you thinking this new forum would help you in any way for whatever agenda you have?? Maybe you can hit the 900 page count by yourself talking to yourself.  Hilarious. https://vericoinforums.com/ For serious people with serious input for the coin and community. On one hand you say that the price is low because I am talking down the price. On the other hand you say I am talking to myself. It seems you can't get your head around what's happening, can you? And you certainly don't understand how the three non-delivering wannabe coin developers effect the price. Any questions my troll friend? |
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why a new thread about VRC?
It seems the VeriCoin developers don't like questions and criticism lately (once the money was collected the opinion of the community is not important any more), and therefore the developers decided to close the unmoderated Bitcointalk thread. There is no unmoderated VRC forum apart from this - unfortunately this is the only VRC thread right now where all opinions, including cheerleading and criticism are welcomed and no censorship is exercised. You are not the community and your opinion does not matter at this point. Again, sorry. Anyone who is go here: https://vericoinforums.com/You see, that's one of the reasons why the money stays away from VeriCoin and it is one of the hopeless 500 clones, because paid VRC supporters and slowly dumping figures like yourself and that Jay Jay boy throw lots of empty promises to potential investors, take the money and then you are not interested in the opinion of bag holders. No, the reason people are staying away or so you say they are is because of the idiotic crap coming from your mouth day in and day out. Again, what are you doing to affect the price in any way shape or form in a positive way? ? And no I'm not a paid supporter and surely not a dumper. Not much of a bag holder either but do know that talking shit about the coin does nothing for it. So carry on with your lectures. It's certainly amusing seeing it's just us here. Were you thinking this new forum would help you in any way for whatever agenda you have?? Maybe you can hit the 900 page count by yourself talking to yourself. Hilarious. https://vericoinforums.com/ For serious people with serious input for the coin and community. On one hand you say that the price is low because I am talking down the price. On the other hand you say I am talking to myself. It seems you can't get your head around what's happening, can you? And you certainly don't understand how the three non-delivering wannabe coin developers effect the price. |
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why a new thread about VRC?
It seems the VeriCoin developers don't like questions and criticism lately (once the money was collected the opinion of the community is not important any more), and therefore the developers decided to close the unmoderated Bitcointalk thread. There is no unmoderated VRC forum apart from this - unfortunately this is the only VRC thread right now where all opinions, including cheerleading and criticism are welcomed and no censorship is exercised. You are not the community and your opinion does not matter at this point. Again, sorry. Anyone who is go here: https://vericoinforums.com/You see, that's one of the reasons why the money stays away from VeriCoin and it is one of the hopeless 500 clones, because paid VRC supporters and slowly dumping figures like yourself and that Jay Jay boy throw lots of empty promises to potential investors, take the money and then you are not interested in the opinion of bag holders. |
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why a new thread about VRC?
It seems the VeriCoin developers don't like questions and criticism lately (once the money was collected the opinion of the community is not important any more), and therefore the developers decided to close the unmoderated Bitcointalk thread. There is no unmoderated VRC forum apart from this - unfortunately this is the only VRC thread right now where all opinions, including cheerleading and criticism are welcomed and no censorship is exercised. |
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In the meantime, while prominent VeriCoin cheerleaders, influential figures of the coin like the pant man and Isokoira are trolling in this thread without bringing anything useful to the table, the price continue to reflect the lack of transparency, integrity, honesty, dedication, development, innovation ... lack of everything really what the developers promised at the beginning.
YES YOUR RIGHT... THIS IS ALSO THE PERFECT THRED TO KEEP REPEATING YOURSELF. THIS WAY WE DONT LITTER THE REAL PLACES PEOPLE GO TO TO GET INFORMED ON VERICOIN. AT LEAST NOW WE HAVE A PLACE FOR THE TROLLS. WE SHOULD NAME THIS THREAD..ANY IDEAS? ILL START...MAYBE ....TROLLS "R" US OR ... TROLL TANK! lame YA YOUR RIGHT! BUT YOU KNOW WHATS EVEN LAMER!!?? BROCOIN!!!!! LULZ HOWS THAT GOING FOR YOU? LULZ!!!!!!! There is a huge difference between Brocoin and VeriCoin: BRO still has the chance to be successful in their chosen market while VeriCoin has almost zero chance to reactivate the hibernated operation of non delivering developers and delusional crypto currency zombies like yourself. In order to make VRC successful a dramatic change would be required terms of transparency, integrity and work ethic in which departments the VRC devs happened to be very-very weak. YA YOUR RIGHT! KINDA LIKE VIACOIN THAT JUST CRASHED DOWN TO 10-12K HMMM MUST OF BEEN AN ELABORATE SCHEME TO PUMP THE COIN WITH NEWS OF ZYNGA! GODDAM DEVS! COME ON BRO WE CAN ALL AGREE BY NOW THAT YOU REALLY SUCK AT THIS... TIME TO PUT YOUR BTC AWAY IN COLD STORAGE AND LET THE BIG BOYS PLAY... OR YOU CAN CONTINUE TO SUCK AND BLAME DEVELOPERS FOR YOUR LACK OF SUCCESS LULZ Interesting point to compare ViaCoin and VeriCoin. Lets compare the two from purely team and project association viewpoints. The teamThe ViaCoin team is lead by btcdrak a well respected crypto veteran who aims to implement a novel solution with ViaCoin. The team employs Peter Todd, one of the best crypto developer in the world with proven track record and ability to roll out innovative solutions. The VeriCoin team consists three hobbyists whom greatest crypto achievement was up to date to fork the Sunny King's code by adding to the code base lame features, like VeriSMS that up to date attracted a massive 5 users worldwide. The VRC project employs people like yourself my friend to troll on the Bitcointalk forum (and let me not draw the pointless comparison between ppl like yourself and professionals like Peter Todd). Project associationsbtcdrak associate ViaCoin with Ethereum and Bitcoin developers, in that collaboration he regularly meets and works with the best crypto devs in the World. The associates of Viacoin, the Ethereum and BTC devs are well known, public figures. Viacoin is in the radar of organisations like Zynga. The VeriCoin devs collaborate with well known scammers like WizRig and they had been working for months on a "secret project" with Ryan Green and Moolah. Now Ryan, the great business partner of the VRC devs is questioned by the UK police for committing fraud. The latest "business partner" of VeriCoin jl777 had (unlike Peter Todd) collected millions of $ in all type of ICOs and schemes prior delivering any significant projects, which says a lot about the character of jl777, James. Do you want to continue comparing VeriCoin to other serious projects? |
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In the meantime, while prominent VeriCoin cheerleaders, influential figures of the coin like the pant man and Isokoira are trolling in this thread without bringing anything useful to the table, the price continue to reflect the lack of transparency, integrity, honesty, dedication, development, innovation ... lack of everything really what the developers promised at the beginning.
YES YOUR RIGHT... THIS IS ALSO THE PERFECT THRED TO KEEP REPEATING YOURSELF. THIS WAY WE DONT LITTER THE REAL PLACES PEOPLE GO TO TO GET INFORMED ON VERICOIN. AT LEAST NOW WE HAVE A PLACE FOR THE TROLLS. WE SHOULD NAME THIS THREAD..ANY IDEAS? ILL START...MAYBE ....TROLLS "R" US OR ... TROLL TANK! lame YA YOUR RIGHT! BUT YOU KNOW WHATS EVEN LAMER!!?? BROCOIN!!!!! LULZ HOWS THAT GOING FOR YOU? LULZ!!!!!!! There is a huge difference between Brocoin and VeriCoin: BRO still has the chance to be successful in their chosen market while VeriCoin has almost zero chance to reactivate the hibernated operation of non delivering developers and delusional crypto currency zombies like yourself. In order to make VRC successful a dramatic change would be required terms of transparency, integrity and work ethic in which departments the VRC devs happened to be very-very weak. |
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In the meantime, while prominent VeriCoin cheerleaders, influential figures of the coin like the pant man and Isokoira are trolling in this thread without bringing anything useful to the table, the price continue to reflect the lack of transparency, integrity, honesty, dedication, development, innovation ... lack of everything really what the developers promised at the beginning.
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Hi guys New wallet released v1.4.1.4, need to re download blockchain but seems to be working the Dev's got it sorted, yea har!!!! Jon  Thanks Jon for the info! at least the wallet works ... |
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THIS IS THE BEST... WHO U EVEN TALKING TO? LULZ YOU UNDERSTAND ONLY THE TROLLS ARE HERE RIGHT? LULZ THIS IS TRAGIC IM CRINGING WATCHING YOU TROLLS, WHY DONT YOU JUST CALL EACHOTHER ITS MUCH EASIER SINCE THERES ONLY 3 OF YOU. YES VERICOIN WAS THIS HUGE SCHEME TO STEAL ALL YOUR BITCOINS!! NOW GO BUY INTO SOME RANDOM IPO. VERICOIN IS A SCAM BECAUSE THE DEVS CANT KEEP THE PRICE HIGH ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO KEEP MAKING MONEY FOREVER!! IF THE PRICE OF THE COIN I BUY GOES DOWN AFTER I BUY I KNOW THE DEVS ARE SCAMMERS CAUSE THEY PLANNED IT TO STEAL MY BITCOIN! IM GOING TO BUY PANDA COIN SCREW THIS!!
There are many contributing factors in the failure of this coin. Like the state of market, lack of interest in digital currencies, the so many scams, IPOs, ICOs and ITOs that sucked the money out from the market, and of course the main issue is that the PhD students and the MS developer have never delivered anything really. There is nothing wrong to discuss this and we are quite lucky that intelligent and experienced individuals like Barabbas, By4Crypto and others (unfortunately I can't put you in that intelligent group my good pant sales boy) share their opinions on this topic. So be thankful, civil and polite :-))) |
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