You are quite right that better not to have a roadmap if the only outcome of the roadmap are unfulfilled expectations and endless disappointments in the lack of progress.  

I was also wondering, where is jl777 James? Are there any updates from him terms of VRC development? By now it is clear the jl777 effect on the price  is exactly same as the altcoinUK or AnyRandomUser34753 effect (all of them have zero effect on price), he is obviously not the saviour of VRC as he presented himself, but does he work in the background with the VRC devs and if he does what is being developed?

What was the reason the wallet - that was 1 month ago 95% completed, a week ago it was 99% completed - still hasn't released yet? What is the status of software development terms of what modules being developed and what is the expected release time for each?

I understand from the new supreme cheerleader commander Jay Jay that the devs work very hard (we know they always do), the coin is very undervalued (yes it should be 1 billion US$ market cap by now given that 3 people work on it part time), the future is bright and and vericoin will do all great things to human kind, and I accept all the usual cheerleading mantra ... but is it possible to get a meaningful update on the status of development (apart from that go and check the roadmap)?

It's always amaze me how delusional the expectations are ...  the Party Poker that you want to see be implemented within the APEX user interface is developed by +200 strong well paid development team, the Party Poker software development team is integral part of a close to billion dollars operation ... which obviously doesn't bother you and you still expect the 2 men part-time hobbyist APEX development team will come up with a similar solution.

The average age must have dropped to 16 years in this Bitcointalk forums, grown up men wouldn't have some irrational expectations.

Really?

Absolutely correct, and that explains why klopper's theory about the push is completely incorrect.

What are you saying, are you holding vericoin, selling it or buying? Are you still supporting the operation or moving out from the coin?

Anyway, no one knows what's going to happen terms of market capitalization, but the fact that despite the take over threats and complete crash a few weeks ago the devs are active and develop the coin indicates a character (consistency and willingness to work) that is very rear in this scam driven altcoin universe.

Yeah, if we compare it to many coins that have market capitalization over US$ 300k then it is really undervalued given that the dev here at least try to deliver something, so it isn't a scam.

This coin has lots of potential as there are only 6,000,000 APEX exists. The market cap is still only US$ 50,000, there is plenty of room to grow. If the dev remains active then the 20k Sat price and US$ 600,000 market cap is a very realistic outcome.

85K, perhaps 88K, though 86.5K is more realistic.

Edit: I don't expect 100k before 25th Sept.

Fair enough, what you said makes lot of sense.

I guess, I was just trying to squeeze out more from the situation :-))) not that I want to sell as I bought a reasonable amount even during the last few weeks when the price was at 8-9k and in the meantime I sold a very little during the weekend, and I am sure many VRC holders did the same and did buy during even the stagnation period, but we long time VRC bag holders already bought as much as we could, we have been staking and we need new investment to flow into the coin. Not that we want to day trade, but to keep the momentum going. Besides of that, just like in professional golf or football the winning take care of everything, in this business the raising coin price take care of every problems. But it seems you know that and you are acting to get there.

Sluppy, I think you have misunderstood what doc is suggesting.
He is saying that he will come up with a touch screen payment processor, NFC card reader device using the Raspberry Pi board. A phone what you suggest is not an alternative to what doc suggests. For example an STM32 discovery board could be an alternative but not a phone. He is talking about the Raspberry Pi that cost £25.

That's a very valid point. It was interesting to see that during the last rise the staking was down to 12 million, which means lots of bag holders moved their coins to the exchanges to sell. The large number of sellers makes a pump and consequently higher price quite impossible at this moment in time.

You can always count on my unconditional support :-)) I was always the biggest supporter of this coin while the price was over 10k, you can check my tweets. Once the operation, buy support, volume and prices had collapsed I felt I need to point out the issues instead of continue the unconditional cheerleading (what I was doing before).
Now, as it turned out that the vericoin core devs have been working hard, then we need to be supportive, don't we?

That power is lot less than what was promised and expected. After the great speeches and the promised endless access to infinitely rich whales the price couldn't even break 20k, and VRC started from a very low volume and very low price of 10k.
I would never do the bitching and complaining if the price rise, but as the price is fluctuating around 15k and going nowhere, better to ask where is the promised buy support of whales and not to celebrate what is not there.

Yes, this could be a great community or hobby project, and this is a great idea to keep tech-minded VRC fans together. If you aren't interested to commercialize the device, then that's it, that's all I wanted to say :-))) If you are interested to commercialize the device then please read on :-)) hopefully you will find some useful information below.

As for developing a business ready payment processor device, that is a more complicated case. I suggested here back in June/July to roll out an ATM or payment processing device, but to be honest my suggestion was for mainly PR reasons. Once VRC start developing such device then the accompanying press releases could provide some good publicity for the coin. However, there are difficulties involved with the commercialization such devices. Prior to marketing and selling the difficulties are in R&D (research and development) and regulatory procedure.

R&D
This is an interesting one, lately lot of start-ups jumped into commercializing Raspberry Pi based solutions - it is not as easy nor practical as first seems :-)) Yes, the buses and pins are there, so you can use SPI, I2C, UART, yes we can buy the cheap peripherals from Sparkfun, Seeedstudio, etc., but the fact that the Raspberry Pi is a very capable device also introduces a few problems as well. The Pi is big, certainly bigger than what you need for this use case. Plus, once the touch screen is integrated the device is even bigger. That means the designer quickly run into the usual practical problem: electronic enclosure. For this device that you have described won't be possible to find a good looking bespoke enclosure (and I guess we wouldn't want to roll out an ugly one). That's why most of the Raspberry Pi based devices use a custom enclosure, but that means extra cost, at least $20,000 to get the enclosure. Apart from the touch screen, we would need a WiFi module to get internet connection, that means extra cost and even bigger device.
My experience is that these projects almost all the time end up using a custom design, to roll out and manufacture their own PCB. In this case the hardware cost less than using the expensive Pi, touch screen, WiFi board combo, and you can use a good looking bespoke enclosure from OKW, Bopla, etc.

Regulatory
Such device has to comply with safety, electronics and all kind of other regulations, not to mention the compliance with financial regulations related with payment processing, and the regulations are quite region specific. Therefore,  better to see the US and rest of the world market differently as the requirements are very different in these two.

EU and rest of the world. Once the CE mark is obtained and the certification partner (that is accredited by the regulatory body) was selected wisely, then the device is eligible in not only the EU market, but China, Japan, Taiwan and the Middle East. So it is quite important we select the correct certification partner. Still, go through on the regulatory process is a relatively expensive (£10,000) and time consuming task.

As for the USA, it is even more expensive and time consuming. Not too mention if your device communicates over a wireless protocol then the FCC is pain in ass  (and I assume your device would have a WiFi internet connection instead of using the Pi Ethernet connection to enable easier integration in the shops that use the device).

There are many other issues with hardware/firmware design and commercialization of the device, and I am sure you know that, and I just wanted to put my 2 cents here and not to tell what you should do, you will know how to handle the design and the rest, but if you run into problems let me know, I am happy to help if I can.

Good lines, we have been there, all of us, when we were young :-))

This one is excellent:  "You get more beautiful every time I see you"  ... thanks for that, I saved it.

But when you're getting old it is not enough, with the old ones it is a whole different ball game IMO. First you look at the old 58 years old one like this one in the picture ... and you say yourself, she is not 58 but 45, no fuck the 45, no, she is a fucking 38 years old young woman ... and then once you convinced yourself that she is really very young then you look at her eyes, here we go ... and you say something like that: I can't believe ... I mean ... I know you are in your forties but you really look like a 35 years old . Sounds pathetic, but most of the time get the result. I wish that the altcoin investments would be so predictable like elderly ladies.

Be a gentleman and practical wetwipe. Firstly we should never say about a lady that she is old, secondly, not that this is relevant here but generally speaking, if you tell an elderly lady that she is young then you increase your chances with at least 30% which is a lot. In order to convincingly tell (lie) her that she is young, first you must believe in your own bollocks. When you are getting old and deal with old, posh ladies then you need all kind of tricks to get done something.

Fucking hell Mady, first you wanted to sell me 132 non existent BTC, then you ignoring and publicly denouncing me and then you testing my inactive libido with that very nice looking, posh young lady. Are we not friends any more or what? :-))

I couldn't be happier that I was wrong from many aspects about the VRC developers, and that it turned out or became clear that the devs are not arrogant at all, but serious software professionals and indeed work hard in the background. The best news for VRC investors ever. This dramatic and sudden realization and the community wide enlightening catharsis would not be possible without my bitching and complaining. Your very welcome :-))