wat wait i though vericoin is shit and has no actual development the devs are not suited for the crypto currency and [insert barabbas] why is vericoin @14 k from 7 k now....... i just dumped my 300 k vericoins.... barabass i trusted your comments... and monkeys too  my trust is lost, after buying on the top and selling at the bottom  Oh dear, oh dear ... not that I could sell anything at the low prices, but at least you had a good time and you were ecstatic for 2 hours when the price was at 15K. I am sure jorrr and many investors who believed the hype and bought into the coin at 40-50K were very happy too that the price gone up as much as to 15K for 2 hours. Are you still partying? You seems very quiet again since the price is going down. |
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Actually I was thinking to buy some syscoins, checked to source tree, while I have not opened the source files and I could be wrong, but it seems to me from the file names the coin is just an other litecoin fork. Where exactly is the innovation? Is the decentralized market place in the github source, if yes then in which files? If you don't mind please point it out so I don't have to go through on the whole source code to find your innovative features. |
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VRC to the moon, 100K at least
Oh dear ... why not 200k, 300k or 500k, that would sound a lot better. It seems you can't stop this hardcore cheerleading can you? But you are running out time, not many naive investors out there who would fall for this ridiculous hype any more. |
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Any news from the devs? I can't wait for the launch :-))
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Are you nuts? Aside from Viacoin and a small handful of other alts, the ENTIRE altcoin market is a sea of red today. Litecoin even went as far down as $4.85 earlier. Jeez, you people are really something else.
Are you nuts? The issue is not the today market dynamics you fan boy, the issue is that Vericoin price dropped more than 80% in the last few weeks, none of the legit coins had such performance. Jeez, you hardcore cheerleaders are really something else. Now, really, I had enough from this debate, good luck with the process. |
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Oh, and by the way, the ENTIRE altcoin market is down today. I'm sure you'll try to blame the entire thing on the VeriCoin devs though because it seems that's what you FUDsters like to do.
Nothing is wrong with the altcoin market. I bought into viacoin when it was the same price as vericoin and I am very happy for the viacoin price, all I said it would be great to see such success with vericoin too. Anyway, it's really no point to argue about this whole thing, good luck with the process, I am sure you will fix it. |
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And I'm sure many of the optimistic ones are those who got in at under 1000SAT and sold off large chunks at high prices. I'd be throwing water on the fud too if I were them.
Exactly that's what happening here. Plus many of the optimistic one were mined the coin, they can still sell at 5K with profit, others invested very little (the most vocal guy socal has only 11k) so of course they don't care about price drop. |
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+1,000,000,000
Since you still believe in the fundamentals of this project which is really good and I am sure you are correct about that, and you have offered me the opportunity to buy my coins, will you put the 50 BTC buy order at bittrex or not? By putting the 50 BTC buy order you would do not only hype making with a new nick, but could act and show real support for the coin and most importantly you could have my cheap coins what you wanted. If you can find someone that's willing to gift me 50 BTC then I'd be happy to buy them but otherwise, we're both out of luck because my entire cryptocurrency portfolio is only a fraction of that as I tend to put a much larger portion of my money into tangible assets (i.e. precious metals) than I do virtual ones. Either way though, it sounds to me as if the fallacious argument that you're trying to make is based upon a false dichotomy (aka a false dilemma). OK then. You clearly said you will buy my cheap coins. As you don't have money, you obviously can't do that, so better next time don't talk about buying if you don't have the money. After all, it is understandable, you are just one of the new nicks registered today to continue to make the hype and lecture real money investors about what to think and say about this coin. In the meantime the price is already 8k so the hype making obviously don't work and if a new investor see that 0 day nicks like you make the hype while the devs are absent - they will just turn around and never come back. It would be better you hardcore hype making cheerleaders would have rest and let supporters with real money fix this mess. From the empty words about the great process and with your empty wallet this coin won't be fixed. |
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+1,000,000,000
Since you still believe in the fundamentals of this project which is really good and I am sure you are correct about that, and you have offered me the opportunity to buy my coins, will you put the 50 BTC buy order at bittrex or not? By putting the 50 BTC buy order you would do not only hype making with a new nick, but could act and show real support for the coin and most importantly you could have my cheap coins what you wanted. |
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Instead of constantly whining about it, I think it would be better if those of you with weak hands would just get it over with and dump so that those of us who are in it for the longer term, who still like the overall fundamentals of VRC can scoop up some cheaper coins.
Even it's clear that people like me who invested hard cash into this thing didn't bring the price to 9K, and perhaps it is understandable I could have comments about what is happening, still you are absolutely right, I shouldn't wonder here about the situation and just better to drop the thing on bittrex. I would take on your offer, so could you please put a 50 BTC buy wall and I will let you have the cheap coins. |
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vrc be just fine, just keep buying... you won't regret it...  it is clear that there has been well organized influence on the market since the start of vrc's rise on june 1st and that hasn't changed... everythings working towards a bigger picture and an end game of making vrc a top coin. if u are newer to crypto and were not around for the shenanigans of the btc or ltc boom dont fret... we've seen all this before... WTF this coin does with the boom of BTC and LTC 10 months ago? LoL Guys, this nonsense is getting ridiculous :-) We read many hardcore cheerleading and ridiculous hype in this thread already, it doesn't work anymore. I'm pretty sure the meant that if you've been in the crypto market since that time that you'd know firsthand that the prices can and will fluctuate pretty wildly and that VeriCoin in particular seems to have come under attack from outside forces ever since it first began to rise. He's right, though, as is evident by the stolen MintPal coins, the MintPal DoS attack, the attacks on the VRC nodes, the overly aggressive, downward moving sell walls which seem to occur most often during times of extremely low volume (when the markets are the least liquid and hence, more easily manipulated), the increasing levels of FUD, etc. As I told someone yesterday, it almost seems as if someone is painting the tape in a downward direction while spreading FUD in order to scare prospective investors away, but of course that is only speculation on my part and at this point has not been proven. It probably sounds too tinfoil-hattish to some but I've seen it before, though, when I actively traded tech-stocks during the dot-com bubble of the late 1990's and today's usual suspects seem to look and act almost exactly the same as the ones back then. It got so bad at one point that some of the more aggressive bashers of that time (like Janice Shell) eventually got sued (see: http://www.secinfo.com/dPx8x.64.htm ). Don't worry about my background in crypto, even this is not my primary business, but I have been buying bitcoin since it was $10 well before the LTC boom, I am having good trades like viacoin which returned already more BTCs than my loss on vericoin - so the vericoin failure is not end of the world, still it's veri unfortunate. Which bothers me and was a new situation for me this transparent team presentation that I completely misread, I thought transparency and honesty of the devs equals to top coin which is obviously not the case. The honesty is not good enough - delivery is still required. Also it was new to me the the involvement of the scammer wizrig & co & dev coordinated pump & dump, in bitcoin trade we don't have such nonsense. I don't agree and don't believe anyone is pushing the price down, there is just not enough buy support for vericoin. |
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Yes, you could be right, I realize that even a blockchian 2 feature could be irrelevant. I thought perhaps a smartly presented blockchain 2 feature could help, that's why I am banging on about the white paper to see what the devs are capable to come up before I dump my +300K coins, which I am very close to start to dump, because this thing looks really hopeless.
Dang 300k!! You may be able to get 2-4btcs for that. Unless you wait then maybe 1-2btc. Yeah that really sucks LoL LoL fortunately my business isn't digital currency trading, and most of my money what I put into crypto is in BTC anyway not in these altcoin nonsenses, but still it is very disappointing to get in this situation with VeriCoin. I was really passionate about the coin and liked what I heard first, that's why I try to figure out what to do, get some info from the devs where they are, try to understand what they develop, but I have to realize that it doesn't worth my time and better to take the loss and dump the thing instead of wondering about Vericoin's direction. |
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In case you have not noticed. Capital is flowing out of LTC as I type - lots of it. If you as a VeriCoin community member know of anyone holding LTC, please encourage them to invest in VeriCoin. "Convert your LTC to VRC and earn 2.5% interest." LTC is at 0.01 and falling, so the conversion to VRC would amount to a sizable wallet.
hey whos buying all the LTC then? Market capital for LTC dropped $10M in the last hour. And close to $40M in just a few days. Now now let us not get skewed with the facts. VRC lost over 66% in 3 weeks time LTC lost maybe 25% in the same amount of time. Let's use a fair scale when comparing and contrasting...thanks!  I've been reading this thread for the last 2 weeks and can't sit on the sidelines any longer as it's blatantly obvious that you don't really care about the facts and would rather twist them to serve your own VeriCoin bashing agenda here. If you really want to look at the facts, the VeriCoin price as of May 20th (before the recent pump and dump) has lost less than 5% of it's value while Litecoin has lost around 40%. We're entering the last stretch of summer and seasonally speaking, it's the worst time of the year for the cryptocurrency markets. For anyone that was in the market at this time last year, they were bitching that their Bitcoin holdings were down over 60% after having hit a high of over $250. A lot of us have already been through it so there no need to be so dramatic about it. By their very nature the crypto markets are extremely volatile so it is what it is. If you can't handle it then I suggest you get lost because this game isn't for you. Perhaps you'd be better investing in Blue-Chip stocks, Bonds or CD's or something of that nature. So I think it is better if we compare the today price with May 1st, in this case there is no loss at all ... but 600% gain. The reality is that VeriCoin order book is 4.3 BTC at this moment in time at BitTrex, there is no interest in this coin at all, the price is dropping while other coins (that progress in developing new features) are doing well. I think it has more to do with a lack of marketing than anything else. Despite its having been in the top three cryptos (in volume) at one point during the last few months (which is how I initially found it), not too many people seem to know about it and even fewer seem to have done any real due diligence on it since much of the altcoin money seems to be going towards chasing pump and dumps rather than buying and holding altcoins with strong fundamentals. I would disagree with that. First I thought as well that the key is the marketing, that's why I was disappointed that the scammer wizrig didn't come through. But other coins even do less marketing, they don't have hangouts, the devs didn't go to conference, there are not such active community like the vericoin ... so it seems not the marketing is the key. I think the issues are a) the wrong features have been delivered b) no real development lately, they are working some meaningless features like iOS wallet c) no progress in blockchain 2 development and the market clearly rewards coins that develop blockchain 2 tech Aside from what wizrig failed to deliver, I don't think that any of the things you said really equate to marketing. Yes, they're building a strong community and the DEVs are visible and eager to answer people's questions but the little bit of marketing that's been done seems to have come more from the grassroots level and not from any sort of advertising campaign or anything like that. That's fine with me, though (as I'm not really looking at my VRC investment as a get-rich-quick scheme but rather one that will consistently grow over the course of time.) I also have to say, though, that I don't think that they're going about it in the wrong way because it's quite apparent that a strong community is what seems to attract people the most, as opposed to marketing ploys or things like that. It will probably take some time but from all that I've gathered thus far, the devs are serious about making VeriCoin one of the top coins so I'm more than willing to wait and see (and I'm actually impressed by all that they've accomplished thus far, given the very short period of time that VeriCoin has been around.) You also have to realize that from what they've hinted at, that they seem to have other things going on behind the scenes which they aren't willing to publicly talk about for the sake of keeping their ideas from being stolen by other altcoin development teams, which I think is a smart move in and of itself. The vericoin devs are really nice, honest guys, but I am not sure if they are good enough to deliver new features never mind take this coin to the top. I really thought they are that's why I bought in, but they couldn't even deliver a decent wallet, the code base is an LTC copy/paste nothing original in it, and which is in my opinion matters (or at least give a chance to turn this thing around) they are nowhere in developing a blockchain 2 feature into the application. I would really like if the honest devs could achieve that top coin plan and could get on with the work, but I am not sure if that will happen. We will see, but it is less and less likely that they can compete with guys like Peter Todd never mind the Ethereum team. |
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vrc be just fine, just keep buying... you won't regret it... it is clear that there has been well organized influence on the market since the start of vrc's rise on june 1st and that hasn't changed... everythings working towards a bigger picture and an end game of making vrc a top coin. if u are newer to crypto and were not around for the shenanigans of the btc or ltc boom dont fret... we've seen all this before... WTF this coin does with the boom of BTC and LTC 10 months ago? LoL Guys, this nonsense is getting ridiculous :-) We read many hardcore cheerleading and ridiculous hype in this thread already, it doesn't work anymore. |
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Black Halo isn't helping BC. I don't think anything will help VRC.
People dumping crapcoins all around. BC, DOGE, LTC and VRC keeps falling.
Yes, you could be right, I realize that even a blockchian 2 feature could be irrelevant. I thought perhaps a smartly presented blockchain 2 feature could help, that's why I am banging on about the white paper to see what the devs are capable to come up before I dump my +300K coins, which I am very close to start to dump, because this thing looks really hopeless. |
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In case you have not noticed. Capital is flowing out of LTC as I type - lots of it. If you as a VeriCoin community member know of anyone holding LTC, please encourage them to invest in VeriCoin. "Convert your LTC to VRC and earn 2.5% interest." LTC is at 0.01 and falling, so the conversion to VRC would amount to a sizable wallet.
hey whos buying all the LTC then? Market capital for LTC dropped $10M in the last hour. And close to $40M in just a few days. Now now let us not get skewed with the facts. VRC lost over 66% in 3 weeks time LTC lost maybe 25% in the same amount of time. Let's use a fair scale when comparing and contrasting...thanks! I've been reading this thread for the last 2 weeks and can't sit on the sidelines any longer as it's blatantly obvious that you don't really care about the facts and would rather twist them to serve your own VeriCoin bashing agenda here. If you really want to look at the facts, the VeriCoin price as of May 20th (before the recent pump and dump) has lost less than 5% of it's value while Litecoin has lost around 40%. We're entering the last stretch of summer and seasonally speaking, it's the worst time of the year for the cryptocurrency markets. For anyone that was in the market at this time last year, they were bitching that their Bitcoin holdings were down over 60% after having hit a high of over $250. A lot of us have already been through it so there no need to be so dramatic about it. By their very nature the crypto markets are extremely volatile so it is what it is. If you can't handle it then I suggest you get lost because this game isn't for you. Perhaps you'd be better investing in Blue-Chip stocks, Bonds or CD's or something of that nature. So I think it is better if we compare the today price with May 1st, in this case there is no loss at all ... but 600% gain. The reality is that VeriCoin order book is 4.3 BTC at this moment in time at BitTrex, there is no interest in this coin at all, the price is dropping while other coins (that progress in developing new features) are doing well. I think it has more to do with a lack of marketing than anything else. Despite its having been in the top three cryptos (in volume) at one point during the last few months (which is how I initially found it), not too many people seem to know about it and even fewer seem to have done any real due diligence on it since much of the altcoin money seems to be going towards chasing pump and dumps rather than buying and holding altcoins with strong fundamentals. I would disagree with that. First I thought as well that the key is the marketing, that's why I was disappointed that the scammer wizrig didn't come through. But other coins even do less marketing, they don't have hangouts, the devs didn't go to conference, there are not such active community like the vericoin ... so it seems not the marketing is the key. I think the issues are a) the wrong features have been delivered b) no real development lately, they are working some meaningless features like iOS wallet c) no progress in blockchain 2 development and the market clearly rewards coins that develop blockchain 2 tech |
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In case you have not noticed. Capital is flowing out of LTC as I type - lots of it. If you as a VeriCoin community member know of anyone holding LTC, please encourage them to invest in VeriCoin. "Convert your LTC to VRC and earn 2.5% interest." LTC is at 0.01 and falling, so the conversion to VRC would amount to a sizable wallet.
hey whos buying all the LTC then? Market capital for LTC dropped $10M in the last hour. And close to $40M in just a few days. Now now let us not get skewed with the facts. VRC lost over 66% in 3 weeks time LTC lost maybe 25% in the same amount of time. Let's use a fair scale when comparing and contrasting...thanks! I've been reading this thread for the last 2 weeks and can't sit on the sidelines any longer as it's blatantly obvious that you don't really care about the facts and would rather twist them to serve your own VeriCoin bashing agenda here. If you really want to look at the facts, the VeriCoin price as of May 20th (before the recent pump and dump) has lost less than 5% of it's value while Litecoin has lost around 40%. We're entering the last stretch of summer and seasonally speaking, it's the worst time of the year for the cryptocurrency markets. For anyone that was in the market at this time last year, they were bitching that their Bitcoin holdings were down over 60% after having hit a high of over $250. A lot of us have already been through it so there no need to be so dramatic about it. By their very nature the crypto markets are extremely volatile so it is what it is. If you can't handle it then I suggest you get lost because this game isn't for you. Perhaps you'd be better investing in Blue-Chip stocks, Bonds or CD's or something of that nature. So I think it is better if we compare the today price with not May 20th but May 1st, in this case there is no loss at all ... but 600% gain. The reality is that VeriCoin order book is 4.3 BTC at this moment in time at BitTrex, there is no interest in this coin at all, the price is dropping while other coins (that progress in developing new features) are doing well. |
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Create a VRC Exchange. That would be cool  (cant code sorry) Yeah, anything, even that white paper would be cool, but this is a cool image from a community member while other coin devs deliver real blockchain 2 solutions. |
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I have been talking here for weeks about the importance of progressing in blockchain 2 tech development. ViaCoin is the best example of how important the blockchain 2 tech for the maket. Today ViaCoin unveiled the ClearingHouse at http://blog.viacoin.org/2014/08/11/1-clearinghouse.html Their price is going up and the volume speaks for itself. Probably lots of LTC money is going to ViaCoin too. I am still holding a lots of vericoin, but I have more viacoin right now than vericoin so I am happy for the viacoin success, but still would be nice to see vericoin progress as well, it would be great if the vericoin devs could deliver something too. The two coins were at the same price a few weeks ago - right now viacoin worth 6x of vericoin. I am not sure if it is possible (whether the devs can deliver at all), but I think it is time for vericoin to get into the blockchain 2 race even if nothing more but by delivering the first white paper. |
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I will be LIVE in studio on vrcradio.com on Wednesday 10 AM EST and will be taking questions from IRC.
Pnosker said by answering to my question about the white paper he doesn't know too much about the status of it and you are on holiday, it was great to get some answer from Pnosker at least and I wouldn't bother you, but since you here could you give us an update on the white paper please? Are you really working on it, do you think will you be able to release something that is comparable terms of quality and substance to projects like Ripple, Counterparty not to mention Ethereum (especially Gavin Wood's yellow paper)? The Veribit, Verisend, FIAT ideas clearly didn't work, the iOS wallet is a very little addition and probably don't matter when serious competitors are on the market (like Viacoin with Peter Todd) pushing hard the blockchain 2 tech. I thought the blockchain 2 white paper could be the first step in the right direction, but where exactly the vericoin dev team with the white paper? I won't be able to listen the radio, I am sure others will be busy at Wednesday 10 AM EST too, so that would be great if you could answer here! |
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