Well the jury's still quite out on Zimbeck... he seem to have had some talent... for chess. He ranked like 37th at some point I believe -which must be quite hard to do, but not difficult enough to make a living at it-, and he even published a book of chess puzzles ... that doesn't sell any copies either in print or digital form. Other than that, at 31, he's a total failure going nowhere soon having miserably failed at being an actor/model (he got to do a few sessions as an extra in movies and commercials), having even more miserably failed at being a "producer" - I believe somehow he produced a short film no one ever saw-, and even more miserable fail at being a photographer and, at 30, managed to see himself drowning on debt... which are not precisely the "achievements" of "..a very talented young man".

The Black Halo protocol is one that no one uses, no one will ever do, that has brought to Blackcoin nothing but misery, since the price is stagnant at all time lows, 92% from ATH and quickly drifting to shit. Black Halo, smart contracts and Nightmarket or whatever other shit included. So the way I see it Zimbeck is just an opportunistic  individual being paid by scammers -if not being the main one himself, which is the most likely-, to front a scam of pretty big proportions and that is already actively in progress but that, even as scams go, has been caught on time and, consequently, will be aborted in mid-progress. It HAS been aborted, already and Zimbeck and his employers are unable to keep unloading more than a very few BTC per day and at prices that will hit below 200 sat any time now. Since Zimbeck himself absolutely needs to get rid of his stack to cover debt, the unloading will continue and so will the price "progression", while this scam will quickly engross the checkered (pun fully intended) past of this questionably "talented" (relatively at 31 -- happy birthday, by the way...) young man.

Then why are you even here then trading? (like anyone)

Let me ask you this.

"that very professional and seemingly hard working dev"   such nice words. I can remember a half dozen posts of you just mercilessly shredding him.

Hohoho, that's the Thanksgiving spirit! serve the potatoes and pass the profanity please!

Valid constructive criticism?? ??  Man, share the drugs you are on, so we can see the fud thru your happy eyes. You have been a one man wrecking ball on that thread. Logic and facts were no obstacles to you there either.  "Clueless loud chinamen." Rasism anyone?

And here you are oblivious to the  facts endlessly. Like ... ico on bter had a completely different liquidity pool. Supernet sold what, two - three times as much as Bay without missing a beat. Rants about newbie accounts. Yet everyone who has been patiently trying to remove the log from your eye are full members or above."dumping below ico price"  is fine rhetoric - we expect nothing less from you when you take a short break from the racism & profanity - however the volume is minuscule ("dumping"?) and it is less than 10% below ico. Supernet is currently twice as far below ico. Maybe you should go over there and rant. Lots of chinese folks there too.

Hahaha AltcoinUK complaining about the quality of other people's posts & history?  .....that's rich.  rich enough for thanksgiving day.

AltcoinUK moves like a psychotic cloud from thread to thread raining fud wherever he hovers. This thread was actually civilized for 20 - 30 pages ...why? ... because he was off fudding the Tile thread .... ? ....go check.  you be the judge.

OK... first some actual facts should probably be involved in this... there's no 3000 BTC... never was.  That figure is based on all coins being sold at a price of 300 sats - and all coins were sold before it even reached that price.  Secondarily the coins are held and released from escrow on a schedule (although outlined a few places in this thread... HERE is a summary for you).

The 'majority of the ICO coins' might well have been purchased by the organizers... but only if they are literally the worst planners in the world.  I could buy the 100BTC single transaction purchase during the first few minutes of the ICO as being an 'insider trade' - but everything after the first price tick was pretty even and consistent... so if they're making money dumping at a loss - while still not getting all the escrow'd coins due to milestone releases not being hit yet... they're the dumbest smart guys in history possibly.

When you couple that with the fact that I know one person that holds a decent chunk of BAY personally, and I hold a much less decent chunk myself... yet the 'evidence' (which actually still hasn't been presented in a single provable manner) all comes from those without any stake whatsoever in anything... and I think it's clear which is more reasonable.

NOTE: I'm not saying he couldn't be correct this time... but I just haven't known him to use facts pretty much ever in his long monologues.  He's often confused about simple aspects of blockchain functionality, coin code, and the identities of people involved.  But then again, he loves claiming that I'm a puppet account or provably a member of the 'black hand' or whatever bogeyman is running around this week... so take it for what it is... my 2 cents.

The source completely invalidates the result here.  

Although when he's wrong he conveniently omits that information (see Libertycoin), he basically does nothing but spin conspiracy theories for a select few disciples... naturally, on this site calling everything a scam or fraud is definitely a pretty safe bet - but sorry, I've done pretty well by ignoring him so far... figure I'll keep going with what works.

just sell your bag while you still can

The only solution to the above posts is progress. If or when promises are delivered these post will fade away. I agree $1.00 per coin is a bit much and sounds way too good to be true. Also, there has been a lot of dumping of coins bringing the price down. Where are they coming from and why would you sell for less than you paid is a great question. This is why I wanted to know if fees would be charged for use of BitBay Marketplace. I would much rather pay a small fee per transaction to support development than have all the money made up front by selling off coins. This ensures a long term payment system for developers. I feel like we are being told what we want to hear right now and this does not support a healthy community.

To be clear. I want to see BitBay successful.

Thanks Captain Obvious!

I think what they mean is they don't undertstand the reason this IPO is selling at below the initial price, my first thoughts are it was overpriced or some serious doubt surrounding what seem like pretty incredible promises. Now I've read through I also am confused and wondering what I missed.

What did I miss? The wallet seems legit, is there doubts about the market working out?

You have no idea what you're saying. Bitcoin startups has had over 200million in VC investments. Bitcoin obviously lacks the ability to just add on w/e features it wants because of politics and the rest, altcoins however are free to do so.

This phrase; "Bitcoin is a different matter, Bitcoin will be fine.", is 100% bullshit as well. Bitcoin on it's current track without intervention will inevitably fail due to being partly centralized by mining farms. Altcoins are new, they don't face such centralization, yet, so if any investor wants to invest in the cryptocurrency scene, he'd go for promising altcoins as well as Bitcoin. Until large investors can soundly invest a cool 100million in a cryptocurrency without raising the price skyhigh, then we haven't reached "mainstream" yet.

Take you bullshit, biased, beliefs elswhere. Your opinion doesn't matter, you can't define something as a "shitcoin" because it doesn't meet your expectations of what it should deliver and when etc. And as I said earlier, these small single digit million dollar marketcap's that some people think is "High", for altcoins shows that this entire cryptocurrency scene is just in the beginning.

Just reading the bullshit in this thread is like watching Fox Five news...

If we can estimate that there are around 1million Bitcoin users globally and most don't even own 1 single Bitcoin(according to a survey done here on bitcointalk). What does that tell you?

That tells you that the people with serious money aren't in the game yet, or not enough of them are. If you guys count these small million dollar marketcaps and etc, as Bubbles, then you need to rethink. Most people don't know Bitcoin exists, they don't own any Bitcoin, and aren't inclined to atm. When the average joe starts rushing to buy Bitcoin and/or altcoins, then that's when things really begin.

As of right now, you're all early in the game.

Wow, thank you very much, 10 virtual box would be great and 1 GB memory would be more than enough. Could you email the access and login details to developers@gadgetcoin.org please? Also, please email the account names you want to use for each node. The account names you give us will be the live account name of the nodes as well. Alternatively, should we use the altcoinUK01 - altcoinUK10 account names?

The forging intensity determines the number of forged coins. Forging intensity is a configuration setting, similar to the Bitcoin difficulty setting. We start with a high setting value to reward our early adopters and helpers with "free" GadgetCoin, but we don't know exactly how many forged coins will be by the end of the test period. One of the purposes of the test is to fine tune and finalize our forging algorithm.

coins that still have pump and dump value will not die. They have their usecase.

tulip mania has nothing to do with crypto currency. The demand is there because the honesty of Fiat money was not there and we keep seeing that its leaking from every side.

Crypto can fix this with decentralization.

as long community's keep growing, no altcoin will disappear everyone said the same thing about Litecoin and look they managed to get up to 50$.

The only thing what will disappear are the different paper money which is being used by Banks at the moment.