It is absolutely essential that Barrabas keep continue providing his constructive criticism in this thread.
Barrabas presence is the guaranty that the coin is going to the right direction :-)))

LoL He is assembling the silver coins. The three incapable devs unable to deliver anything for 9 weeks. In the meantime a new French character Arsene Lupin appears in the thread by representing an imaginary P&D group with the pump power of 0.4 BTC. Surreal tragicomedy at its best. LoL

No one is buying this coin and not because I am whining, fudding or whatever you are saying I am doing here, we both know that :-))

I get that marketing bit and generally speaking I have no problem with that and I am trading hyped/pumped coins all the time, we are here for the dollar. I wouldn't mind he is doing his marketing, but since vericoin is fucked-up big time I would like to see the problem is solved and this currently fucked up coin is start progressing. In order to do that, they need to be the "good guys", to implement the "good guys" theme what many community members suggest here. The part of that theme is to stop the shady operation that is not alien to Pnosker and to be honest with potential investors. It's just not classy making the hype at Twitter and exchanges by the lead dev. Then, the devs need to stop being arrogant, get to the point when they say fucking hell, it is a professionally embarrassing situation that we could not pulled off this project, just admit they fucked this up, and then start working on the coin.

Pointing out problems and asking from the devs to deliver is not FUDding. If it is up to the hardcore cheerleaders whom standing ovation brought the coin to the 8k price then the price will be 1k very soon - it's time for a different approach, perhaps the simplest is start identifying the problems, working and developing the software.

Early or not, the fact that Pnosker is in the trollbox cheering up day traders says a lot about the mentality and moral of the lead developer. The same moral had associated vericoin with the scammer WizRig. Anyway, it is not very classy that the lead developer of a coin is active, create hype and cheer up potential buyers at an exchange. You would never seen that from well respected devs like btcdrak.

If this mentality of Pnosker, the lead developer would known by potential investors at the time - the very same people who come here these days to tell us about money lost with VRC and that they are very disappointed - then many investors would never ever buy VRC.

I am not sure what Arsene is trying to say with his post, apart from he implies in the trollbox that the staking coins will result higher coin price (which is obviously not the case, see the current 8k price), but it is more interesting to see Pnosker in the trollbox in the middle of the pump talking the price up.

Please don't send Barrabas away from here,

Pro primo, he had already many very good suggestions, he had correctly analysed the issues and provided the project with solutions.
Pro secundo, Barrabas by far is the most entertaining writer on the whole BCT forum :-))
Pro tertio, even he sells his coin he might want to be here to educate potential new investors about the coin, to talk about the community and developers, and doing that purely from moral viewpoint as a right thing to do, wouldn't be that useful for everyone?

I see ... so go back to the non-constructive discussion and not talking about your own question about the features, my answer about the white paper, right, and you aren't trolling?

But since you asked it, let me write here again, what I said here not long time ago by answering Pnosker's very similar question. I did not buy into your coin being excited about Veribit, VeriSMS and Verisend. I bought it just like many hundred investors because of your academic background, that you pulled out the transparency card which was obviously unique at the time in altcoin and most importantly because we assumed your academic background indicates skills, software development experience so you an compile a QT wallet, flexibility, you are able to deal with the problems you face during such project and adaptability when you need to change direction. We assumed the very skill set that would be necessary precisely these days, when your theme fails and the market don't value at all your direction. You presented your CV and skills, and we bought in trusting you will be able to pull off this project, because you are a level headed professional, you won't be arrogant and you won't be attached to your not working ideas such as Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS, the features that have 6 users combined worldwide.

Now, let me know your answer about the white paper, when it will be released?

And yes, white papers. I understand you are not a software professional and I guess you are not aware of that most successful software projects start with high level software documents such as business requirements docs and prior to that often white papers. No wonder white papers moves the market (see CLOAK) because it indicate the direction of the project. So yes, sometimes a white paper could be more important than an actual release that required 1000 man hours.

I have discussed that with Pnosker and other why Vericoin can't be the next Bitcoin a few days back - let me not repeat myself again and again.

The only coin I am not day traded so far is vercioin, so it is not about day trading.

There are no "solid development releases" from vericoin. There are no development at all. (The Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS don't count because they are useless, lame ideas)

Thanks for the constructive post :-) In step one, I would like you finally release the white paper, whatever it is, and please do that soon as it is possible. The white paper that I have been asking for weeks, that your lead developer Pnosker had no idea what the status of that and you didn't even bother to give an update about it for weeks. We both know the completion of such white paper should not take for long weeks, but whatever has happened doesn't matter, just please try to get it out soon as you can. I trust you have the proper understanding of the subject and you will release something that is up to standard. Having said that, whatever you are working on terms functionality, please read first Gavin Wood's cpp-ethereum yellow paper to get an idea what can get 20 million US$ from enthusiastic investors, mainly not terms of subjects (because I guess you are not planning to roll out a new ethereum type of project), but terms of quality and effort put by the developer into the task.

If you perform that step #1 then I will be happy to describe what should be done in step #2 in my opinion :-))

One of the reasons must be the lack of work from the vericoin devs. No real work has been delivering for long. CLOAK is the best example that the hard or even little work pay off. It was just a rather simple CLOAK white paper released and the market response is very positive. I am happy for that and I could sell the CLOAK at 40k which I bought at 22k, but why there is no such work from the vericoin devs? Are they just incapable to deliver, not enough time for work or are they just lazy? It would be nice to see vercioin progress as other coins do and the easiest way to achieve that via working on the software.

Please be sure, many appreciate your hard work and wise words. Don't be intimidated by the cheerleaders' attacks, these are the same ppl who try to scam new investors every day at the IRC channel with 100k price predictions. Ppl are dumping on Bittrex not because you try to bring sanity to the coin, the market just don't like the direction of the coin.

Keep up the good work LoL  

I had a chat here with Pnosker last week. He was kind enough to explain why he wrote his tweets, view, opinion, etc, and more importantly where this coin is heading. He made clear that the direction is the worldwide mass adoption theme, as he said it is what is it, that's what is happening and nothing else. Based on what I heard from Pnosker I can't see the deal with DEV4 is going to happen. Not to mention the difficulties of putting together the escrow and such project. I am in software development business, and I can't see a serious professional would waste his time with such deals like an escrow in this volatile altcoin market - at least I never met any in the last 25-30 years who would enter into such agreement (except if they are here for a P&D action and would pump the coin anyway, but that would be just another scam). In my opinion vericoin is having a delusional plan again regarding the DEV4 project. I was the first here to say the VISA card deal is very lame, and I can tell you the DEV4 idea is unrealistic :-))

I think it is not reasonable to say that we are just talking without providing solutions. I am not here to speak for Barrabas, he can write well :-))) but in my opinion Barrabas had many excellent suggestions here. I offered in this thread 2-3 weeks ago that I could organize a US$ 60k fund to cover 3-4 months work to deliver something that turn around the ship. That was not even considered as a viable option. I guess the only option here to ask the devs start working and deliver something that make sense.

Hardcore cheerleaders and cult members like yourself like to ignore the reality. That's why you actually not helping vericoin in moving forward, even you try to focus so hard as your post indicates that.

Well, obviously I can't prove you're wrong about that. I guess we just have a different view on what makes a coin successful. I don't think  Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS can make a coin successful. But of course, this is just pure speculation, just as you speculate that that such features can propel a coin. Therefore, better to rely on the ultimate test: the market. The market has spoken and don't like the direction - that's why the price is 9k. CLOAK which had the same price as vericoin at the end of June currently 4 times as valuable as vericoin today, VIACOIN that had the same price 4 weeks ago as vericoin currently more than 3 times as valuable as vericoin. So obviously not the seasonal investment volume issue is the real problem, even EffectsToCause always blame the summer for the low price.

The devs are here for the dollar and the only reason their CVs are in the public domain is to convince investors to buy the coin. Therefore, if they needed the investment, I believe it is reasonable to expect they do a better job (actually any job would be great because they not delivered anything in the last 9 weeks). I am not sure if you noticed, but there are at least 2 new people write in this thread every day who have never visited here before to tell the same story over and over: these real people aren't FUDders, they bought the coin for real money at 30k-50k by reading Pnosker tweets and EffectsToCause posts about the bright future. The disappointment of the investors is not FUD, and I think the problems and possible solutions need to be discussed.

Actually Barrabas is right about Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS. All are completely useless functions and certainly don't put vericoin in the league of innovative coins. No wonder the statistic indicates the three features have 9 users worldwide (from the 9 users 3 are the developers). Hardly creative and innovative ideas like Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS are not good enough, no wonder the price is 9k.

Nothing to say, because you have asked rational questions and pointed out valid issues, you failed to celebrate the lame move of the devs, therefore you are a troll and a FUDder.
The very few, but loud silver coin makers, IRC scammers (who bought the coin at 500 Sat so can dump slowly even at 9k) and 16-23 years old enthusiastic fans (they have max 10k coin each) made this crypto currency project a cult. The ritual is simple, you need to worship the word of the devs, the cult members can't question the direction and they are happy with the 9k price and basically anything that the devs spit on the market like the lame VISA card idea.

Please continue to post your valuable questions and opinion, so potential investors can see there are reasonable people here, and the very few silver coin maker, IRC scammer, delusional supporter and the attitude that brought the coin to the 9k price is not the majority here.

The issue here is not my school - the main issue is here that it seems you are still in school. From your idealistic posts I have to assume you are in high school in best case scenario.

Otherwise you would understand that since you praised the enthusiasm of the Vikings, I have pointed out, that the practicality and level headed attitude of the Swiss people is more productive, especially in projects like a crypto currency in which the expertise, logical reasoning and problem solving are more important than shouting hurrah after hurrah for every lame move of the devs. I mean you can shout hurrah in every posts if you like that, but some actual work would help more fore the coin.

Well, since they did not have the decency to discuss this matter with the community despite Buy4Crypto has been specifically asking for this transparency, I doubt the arrogant devs will discuss anything. You know, they can't discuss it because the NDA. The same NDA allowed for the Blackcoin guys to discuss that with investors/community members.

Yeah, it would be nice to have the decentralized sentiment not only on technology but community level as well. As you said, the roles are not clear at all.