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1281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: November 18, 2014, 11:51:19 AM
What's the mood in the cheerleader camp after the price is stabilizing in the 3000 range and many investors lost 90-95% value of their investment?
1282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: November 18, 2014, 12:57:04 AM
Why not partner up and join forces with David Zimbeck and Bitbay?

Lets not partner up the skycoin dev who seems an extremely knowledgeable developer with David Zimbeck who is a the centre figure of the Bitbay scam..

Skycoin seems to me the most amazing project, don't mix it with the Bitbay scammers!
1283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: November 18, 2014, 12:51:33 AM
Question: Will someone, at some point, acknowledge that the closing of the BTCT thread was a terrible mistake?

That the brand new, shiny, censored, cheerleaders only forums was, as all of Scott's ideas, a terrible one?

Perhaps more significantly, that having a "radio station" for a totally failed project is the contrary of an "asset"... unless if marketed as the most efficient remedy for insomnia?

Just a couple of random thoughts, for I know the answers already...

Not only was it a bad idea, they went about it in the worst possible way. Putting it up to a vote and then ignoring the results of the vote was a huge mistake.

Yeah, that was pretty disgraceful that the vote result was ignored. As Barabbas said, probably James requested to close down the thread, which is quite ironic as before the James' effect the coin was 100% more valuable than the today price. A charlatan (James) with the Stooges (VRC devs) - a winner combo.
1284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: November 17, 2014, 04:35:59 PM
From here on down I'm buying.

Two pants-worth at a time...

It will have a couple of rebounds, 35-40% kind I believe, from mid low 3s...

The problem is, at least I think the problem is, we don't know who is dumping so hard. It could be one of the VRC boys like Scott or it could be Alex Green from Moolah. Since Pnosker saved his ass - instead of put 24 hours hard work and no more than 200-300 lines of update into software, modify the protocol and handle that scenario by excluding that stolen wallet and all its related transaction from the network -, Alex Green has lots of coins, who knows how many and how long he will dump.
1285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: November 17, 2014, 04:24:55 PM

ok then. A man who can't stick to his words don't deserve any respect for anyone.


Not that I give a flying fuck about your respect or opinion, but the big difference between scammers like yourself and digital currency enthusiasts, that we see the info that appears, make observations and and then sometimes change our opinion. Contrary to this, you scammers are consistent , because you have one goal: whatever it takes sell that shit. Therefore, when David Zimbeck admitted that he is very much part of the scam and not only development responsibilities are assigned to him, but he is going to run the show as he said he will be a "manager", then I realized that he is not only a talented young man, but a little piece of shit who signed up for helping a scam operation.

Fuckers like you, who try to ride the scam waves and make a few bucks out from that scam are really desperate to keep the show alive.

1286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: November 17, 2014, 03:53:18 PM
Now you're just clutching at straws.

And archiving the Bitbay scam in this unmoderated thread.

On the side note, theee are too many scams in this altcoin market, I am sure you don't disagree with this statement.
1287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: November 17, 2014, 03:26:28 PM
LoL this is priceless. I encourage all users whom post is going to be deleted from the moderated thread make a copy of it after posting and archive it here, great posts like this should be in a persistent store, so the scammers' moderated thread won't be able to unmask the opinions about that very obvious scam.


Bter doesnt work right now ... Any ETA for the features ?

Bter.com is working fine currently. But yeah, would love to see it hit more exchanges. On top of that, you may want to start staking as soon as possible.

We are trying to get Bittrex to add us soon. Everyone can help by tweeting them to add us. Easier for them to add us with a large demand from the community.

Easier for bittrex to add you if you cough up and pay!!! the community done there part by putting 1m in ur pocket so get off ur ass and give something back u scammer fuck head


1288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: November 17, 2014, 02:17:51 PM
I've decided to sell the last of my coins off over the past few weeks. I wish the developers the best of luck, but I think all of the altcoins are facing a grim future. Moving out of VeriCoin and back into Bitcoin over the past few months is probably one of the better decisions that I've made. I recovered most of the losses I sustained by investing in VeriCoin.

If the bag holders in this thread are planning on SuperNET saving the day, think again. My opinion is that all eyes will be on Bitcoin going forward.

I couldn't agree more that Bitcoin will be still the number one. The fantasy world of VeriCoin users that the quicker transaction time will be the main contributing factor in the process of Vericoin replacing Bitcoin is a pure logical fallacy which is the result of incorrect conclusion why the merchant adoption rate is low as well as lack of understanding how the Bitoin protocol works. It's quite amazing actually, that Jay Jay boy builds a full business plan on a logical fallacy. The delusional Bitbay users also think that quicker transaction times will enable them to fight with Bitcoin. Contrary what they believe, the merchant adoption rate for Bitcoin is low not because the long confirmation time. There is a well know method, the green address that allows instant transactions on the BTC network. Besides of that, there are more and more start-ups equipped with endless VC money to make merchant integration and payment processing with Bitcoin seamless. Bitcoin will be obviously fine, and these Vericoin, Bitbay, etc. coins wont be able to challenge the dominance of Bitcoin.


On top of that, the developers seem to be speaking about this coin as if it's a side project now, which would explain why the development process has slowed down quite a bit. My guess is they are probably busy with their real life responsibilities and don't have as much time or interest to give to this project anymore.

Yep, that's exactly what happens.


1289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: November 17, 2014, 01:53:33 PM
Devs!

you said the broker smart contract is doable? when can I test the software?  Wink

It seems the broker smart contract solves a real world business problem and sure, we will try to give you the broker smart contract function. Could you specify the main parameters for the contract please?

So what is it? A broker platform or an IoT platform?

Our focus is most definitely on the internet of things platforms, but whenever we meet with hardware integrators the first question is always "How can we acquire Gadgetcoin?" Surely we cannot avoid Gadgetcoin being listed on exchanges, but following the MtGox and Mintpal fiasco we can see a lot of resistance from new digital currency users when it comes to putting money in exchanges. Looking at it from a convenience standpoint it would also be better for the users to be able to buy Gadgetcoin in the wallet. This is because it would be the same place that the user is creating, monitoring, and configuring smart contracts so it would streamline the acquisition process of Gadgetcoin. Using a practical example, a hardware integrator for a security system would not need to go to the exchange to buy Gadgetcoin if the wallet does not have this decentralized exchange feature, instead he can buy 10 GDC to operate their 10 hardware modules from the wallet directly to simplify the process.  How does this work? The hardware integrator creates a smart contract that buys 10 GDC with the exchange rate of 0.005 BTC. Every gadget coin user will be able to see that smart contract in their wallet, and if you wish to sell your coin, then you will enter into the deal and sell 10 GDC for 0.05 BTC for the hardware integrator user. Furthermore, so far our biggest problem when dealing with hardware integrators, we have to educate people how to use exchanges to acquire Gadgetcoins, and we would rather cut this step out. If the Gadgetcoin wallet offers a decentralized exchange feature then it lowers the risk for our users by not having to use potentially risky exchanges.

Please read our white paper for more information about the decentralized exchange feature.

Thanks for your thoughtful reply and explaining the decentralized exchange feature. From hardware integrator end user viewpoint that make sense. If you make easier for users to use the platform, then you will have a better chance to grow your user base. However, if the majority of GadgetCoin is dealt for BTC and FIAT within the GadgetCoin wallet, that means you will loss the interest of whales who make their most money on exchanges. To be honest, I am not sure what is better for a coin, having the whales like Bobsurplus on their side or not :-))) but again, from hardware integrator viewpoint to simplify the usage of a system is a good idea.

 
1290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: November 17, 2014, 12:49:22 PM
Devs!

you said the broker smart contract is doable? when can I test the software?  Wink

It seems the broker smart contract solves a real world business problem and sure, we will try to give you the broker smart contract function. Could you specify the main parameters for the contract please?

So what is it? A broker platform or an IoT platform?
1291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: November 17, 2014, 01:30:32 AM

What did I miss?  Cheesy


Probably some good fortune from mother nature, and then you have an IQ of room temperature, in other words, you aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

This thread was started based on the facts of

a) While the Bitbay team admitted that all of them are long term users on BCT, they have refused to reveal their original nicks. This, in this market where 95% of the coins are scam is the clearest indicator of a scam (since it was revealed that Nicos who loves dog and Holly who has a family are part of the team)
b) Very legit questions about the expenditure of 3000 BTC were not answered - other clear indicator of a scam
c) Posts were delete from the official thread

Plus, any sane person knows that a large chunk of the 3000 BTC came from the Bitbay team, it was a desperate push to trick naive people into their scam.

So what are you talking about? :-)))




 
1292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: November 17, 2014, 01:04:39 AM
Regarding the statements above by Lizzard and others, regarding Patrick Nosker, the guy is sinister alright so nothing is off the table. More significantly, people should remember that when the very strange theft of VRC at Mintpal, the first move he made was transfer half or so of his coins to Mintpal... he offered me, via PM, the most absurd "explanation" ever: He had moved them there so if there was any movement (supposedly a sell off attempt of the 8 million coins robbed-, his (Nosker's) coins will be there so he would assume all the BUYS and all the SELLS... yep, THAT absurd of an explanation...

Anyway, personally I believe the shortcomings of the guy are of deeper natures and worse consequences than being a scammer, more like personality traits that make him a little frustrated dictator, on one side, and a thoroughly not trustable individual, on another... among others.

IE's has cozied up to Nosker and Doug and I believe it was Mintpal who asked Nosker to review the code of BYC, not IE. I could be wrong, of course. Not very relevant except for the fact that the lack of any and all action in VRC, while they are "helping" (being paid to do work) on other coins, that benefit only their pockets and not at all -the opposite would be true- VRC, means clearly what has been evident to us on THIS forum for a long time already: The stooges have nothing in the tank left. So, with months (many) before ANYTHING comes out of the SuperNET connection (and then only an absurdly obsolete and overall negative decentralized cloud), the fall in price will continue...accentuated by the fact that more and more rats will be jumping ship.

As I have stated, I would be looking to average down -and pocketing some slim gains- from the mid-to-high 3s downwards. No future at all on this one, but a couple of rebounds seem inevitable to me, of the 35-40% kind (from those levels I am willing to re-enter). I, of course, could be wrong, right MAD?

I guess not only you and me remember when Patrick moved his coins to Mintpal, probably everyone does, it is just so embarrassing and so not right what he did that people try to avoid that topic.

Probably you are right about the rats jumping ship. For most of us this is no more than a hobby, but there are pressing personal circumstances, there are guys like that German Micheal boy, he has put all his money into this shit, for him the small gains won't be good enough, and it's quite clear that the 5-10 delusional users who talk nonsenses about 1$ price on the censored thread won't save this coin.
1293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: November 17, 2014, 12:46:05 AM
For one, this is the Unofficial Thread and who cares who posts?  Second, why push someone away? 

That doesn't mean fucking WizRig will get a standing ovation here. Too many angry bagholders remember his promises in the first hangout when he and the three Stooges (at the time we didn't know they are the Stooges) provided investors with the illusion of a dynamic marketing team, and then we all knew what happened. That man is a proper scammer.
1294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: November 16, 2014, 07:39:54 PM

But suggesting because someone has a family and another person loves dogs that, that has any relevance to crypto currency is truly warped and delusional .


Of course it is delusional if we are sceptical, when we ask the question "who is your team", and the answer is, they are Nicos from Russia who loves dog and Holly from Taiwan who has a family. That's their professional profile without surname and any credible info that would allow to verify that these professionals indeed capable to take on Ebay and achieve 2 million $ never mind 1 billion $ market cap. Yes, it is delusional.

However, believing that an operation that is so secretive and unable to provide investors with other info for professional credentials than Nicos from Russia who loves dog and Holly from Taiwan who has a family will be able take on Ebay and reach 1 billion $ market cap is not delusional, it is rational. Of course  you boys, who based on the presented info believes in the Ebay beater BitBay are the rationals.

Man, I understand you have been pushing this fucking scam very-very hard, but you need to relax a bit. Little David will be hunted down with the organizers of the scam. Until enjoy the money you can get from this nonsense.

Read my posts in my history, please show conclusive evidence i have "been pushing this hard" oh no wait you can't cos i haven't

again you jump to conclusions with an inability to offer any real evidence rofl


directly quoted FROM MY PREVIOUS POST "You might very well be right , it might be a scam, If there is evidence to suggest so , not just someones own personal "truth" then i would believe you. but no one has been able to provide any proof....weird how people are convinced of something and yet unable to actually prove it"

i am telling you, you might be right, if you could offer evidence and you claim i am pushing this hard?

I am simply asking you for evidence and you cannot provide it  Roll Eyes well done dumb ass


So the main attributes of an altcoin scam that the scammer reveal that he has an old BCT account but refuse to say who he is and what he will do with the money, apart from that of course he will make you rich, and then these guys do exactly this, and then I need to prove that these are scammers ... in a market where 95% of the coins is a scam.  Fuck off :-))

It's like you just had a sex with a prostitute (analogy as you gave money to these scammers), you paid her $100 and she sucked your dick (analogy to the delusional satisfaction you got from little David about the $1 billion market cap), and then when you finished I am telling you that, congratulation you just fucked a whore, and then you start screaming like you scream here, "don't insult me, prove me that she is a prostitute".

Are you really this fucking stupid or are you just trolling here?

1295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: November 16, 2014, 07:21:50 PM

But suggesting because someone has a family and another person loves dogs that, that has any relevance to crypto currency is truly warped and delusional .


Of course it is delusional if we are sceptical, when we ask the question "who is your team", and the answer is, they are Nicos from Russia who loves dog and Holly from Taiwan who has a family. That's their professional profile without surname and any credible info that would allow to verify that these professionals indeed capable to take on Ebay and achieve 2 million $ never mind 1 billion $ market cap. Yes, it is delusional.

However, believing that an operation that is so secretive and unable to provide investors with other info for professional credentials than Nicos from Russia who loves dog and Holly from Taiwan who has a family will be able take on Ebay and reach 1 billion $ market cap is not delusional, it is rational. Of course you boys, who based on the presented info believes in the Ebay beater BitBay, you are the rationals.

Man, I understand you have been pushing this fucking scam very-very hard, but you need to relax a bit. Little David will be hunted down with the organizers of the scam. Until enjoy the money you could get from this nonsense.
1296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: November 16, 2014, 06:12:41 PM

I think in a few months the coin will be top 5.


Fuck off naked Grandpa, are you crazy? That's not the spirit this operation want from you. The coin will be top 1, worst case scenario top 2. And of course it will take on Ebay and revolutionize e-commerce. Have you seen their team at all? They have on the team Nicos from Russia who loves dog and Holly from Taiwan who has a family. Wow. The potential is endless with Nicos (who loves dogs) and Holly.

1297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: November 16, 2014, 04:52:29 PM

Also, vericoin started with 26million coins.   Now they have a extra 907k   all from minting, do the math  (i would say since it launched around 300k would be the max from minting, leaving a extra 600k minted from the hack)!  You can clearly see there was a flaw in variable interest that allowed people to mint a 'insane' amount of coins extra per day.


If that's true then this is a theft and PNosker, EffectsToCause are scammers. Lets hear the facts from the developers.

There were over 26,700,000 mined during the POW phase https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602041.msg6789922#msg6789922

There were no extra coins generated from staking.


Ah OK, that's great, at least that's not an issue and in this case PNosker and EffectsToCause are not in the league of the ICO scammers and other con artists.
1298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: November 16, 2014, 04:47:58 PM
they want to ban me cuz i said the truth Cheesy Cheesy

still deleting my posts...but i dont care anymore...i only try to bumb the threads...

Well done, most of the scammers who won't be caught like little David will be (they not worth the hassle), but at least they can hear the truth from you.

As I can see the scam is in second phase, the dump has been actioned.

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@BitcoinBaBa:
Yes, buying anything under 300 sat is a no-brainer . Coins won't remain this cheap for long.

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That means they are dumping in 0.1-0.2 BTC chunks and he really-really wants some one buy his shit. They got the BTC, every BAY that sold top on that is a bonus.

Disgrace. These fucking scammers destroyed our market and the reputation of digital currency general.


And this is hilarious:

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@unusualfacts30
This is a dream of every investor in crypto. No whales, no miners and project that already raised $1.2 million ... Think of the all possibilities that can be achieved with that much capital.

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Yes you clown, buying a Ferrari, that will be achieved with that capital.
1299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: November 16, 2014, 04:05:18 PM

Also, vericoin started with 26million coins.   Now they have a extra 907k   all from minting, do the math  (i would say since it launched around 300k would be the max from minting, leaving a extra 600k minted from the hack)!  You can clearly see there was a flaw in variable interest that allowed people to mint a 'insane' amount of coins extra per day.


If that's true then this is a theft and PNosker, EffectsToCause are scammers. Lets hear the facts from the developers.
1300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 16, 2014, 02:12:04 PM
I think one major reason this crowdsale has been underwhelming so far is because it lasted far too long during an already bearish BTC market. I dont blame the devs for making this choice, but this obviously wasn't taken into account during setting up the crowdsale. I can guarantee you had this crowdsale lasted ~10 days instead, it would've made at least 500 btc within a week. The problem was, as with most ICOs, investors tend to ignore the 'early investor' rewards and always decide to get in on ICO's last minute. Within the past few weeks, the deteriorating alt volume just made some give up on it and went right back to  trading BTC/FIAT where the volume has migrated to. Though I still think there will be anywhere between 50-100 btc of buys during the last 48hrs, thats seriously being optimistic.

The volume of altcoins have dramatically been crippled, and it will probably be this way until BTC figures out what it wants to do..most optimistic being, moon, but at the very least, horizontal movement.




I was going to say that too, if these guys will be consistent and keep developing the business, then the money probably will find this project when the market will be in a better shape.
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