crackfoo,

Is there a exchange fee charged to us from going from mined coin to btc outside of the 2% pool fee. I am trying to understand things a little more, after seeing what Jaerin said. I went back and checked my last 50 earnings when they were exchanged. Not knowing the transaction data... after comparing them all 93% of the payouts i received based on share % of coins i mined based on website stated numbers were all below not only the period mined lows, but 93% of payouts were at rates below the 24hr exchange lows.

I am not sure what is going on, but i think something needs to be looked into, either the website is reporting wrong or an internal script is paying out with to much fee added to it. I really would hate to leave the pool, because i have supported the pool, so if you can look into this more for me and possibly resolve it i would love to continue supporting the pool and move all my rigs back over, but SIGT payouts just were not making sense. I prefer your pool, because i typically use a multi-algo setup on your pool and dislike having to exchange things myself.

I know Patrike is busy traveling,

So i wanted to ask others if anyone has gotten Suprnova to work on Awesome Miner, recently i have kinda run into a issue zpool... i started mining the new Skunk algo on that pool, because i was one the very first i received a lot of block rewards and coins, but the pay was not adding up. I followed the coins i mined from immature, to mature, to exchanged and logged all the payouts over the course of the day... the highest i was actually payed was 83% of the LOWEST exchange rate during the 8 hours i mined those coins.. most payouts was around 74% of lowest exchange rate..

So since that little issue i have started mining skunk on suprnova directly and im actually getting paid the correct shares equal the same amount of coins i was mining on zpool, just not getting shorted on the exchange to btc....

Here is the diagnostic data... i think the issue im having is its stuck on "auto" algo when it connects, dont know how to change that in the software.

Mining Engine Process started, PID: 872

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> *** ccminer SkunkSPmod2 for nVidia GPUs from alexis78@github ***
> *** Built with VC++ 2013 and nVidia CUDA SDK 8.0 (û¼ÙJ)
>
> *** Based on tpruvot@github ccminer
> *** Originally based on Christian Buchner and Christian H. project
> *** Include some of the work of djm34, sp, tsiv and klausT.
>
> [2017-07-26 01:01:16] Starting on stratum+tcp://sigt.suprnova.cc:7106
> [2017-07-26 01:01:16] NVML GPU monitoring enabled.
> [2017-07-26 01:01:16] 3 miner threads started, using 'auto' algorithm.
> [2017-07-26 01:01:17] Stratum difficulty set to 0.01

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Stopping miner process ...
Stopping Mining Software
Diagnostics completed


Here is the settings i have for the pool....When i put in the Suprnova server url, i get a a popup to put the worker name in the wallet address, so i did at first. Tried to connect and i just get stratum authentication error, only way i can get it to actually connect is via placing it in both areas, but it never mines.. it just receives blocks and the gpu sit at 0% load....

Ive gone the route of server PSU's, but because im not that large yet and my rigs are not as dense, only 4 gpu per rig, i have been using the multi 750watt server psu units mostly, the decrease in watts at the plug is shocking...

yup

SIGT just payed the BTC to be on bittrex... just fyi i got all 27 x 1080ti full steam ahead on it

does that even make it profitable?

I am shopping around for space to build my next rigs into and expand myself. At my current operating cost and earnings mining on zpool mainly, im averaging right around 1 to 2.3 ratio. So for every $1 ive put into the setup, it will net me $2.3/yr tell all the equipment is payed off over the course of a year, then its just overhead on the equipment.....

I have been thinking of just buying a small 2 bedroom fixer upper house with garage space and turn the garage into a cooling chamber. I have my main PC at home that is watercooled and just a week ago i took my hottest rig, which is 4 x 1080ti MSI Armors (terrible cooling cards) and installed Kraken G12's on them with universal GPU blocks from ekwb to keep the cost right around $60/card to convert. i have the rig sitting in the laundry room as a test location (the laundry room is the room you have to pass through between the kitchen and the garage. I ran pex line temp through the drywall into the garage and i have the radiator sitting in the garage cooling the rigs, so far the concept is working out... my card temps are far lower than any air card i have running, but the temps are not as nice as the watercooled gaming pc, because the garage has no windows and only ventilates through a leaky garage door, so the room over time gets to a set temps and just stays at that temp. If i was to ventilate the garage more i am almost certain i could get the cards down into the low 50's on temps.

The idea would allow me to just leave the computer/rigs inside the house to be cooled by the a/c to some degree leaving the a/c set in the 80's, but majority of the heat would be pulled out of the house via the waterlines and dumped into the garage to be vented to atmosphere.....If the test rig continues to be reliable, i plan to upscale this to multiple rigs, because you gain a small % of additional earnings from the cooler temps on the gpu's also.. to offset the cost of the conversion. The reason i dont want to buy already converted gpu's, is because if i do want to dump them i can just put the air fans back on and sell them, otherwise i would be stuck with 50 watercooled gpu's for a niche market to buy used... plus using the kraken kit along with a universal water block allows it to be transferred to another card in the future when i upgrade.

Plus if i buy a cheaper 2 bedroom fixer upper in my area, the mortgage and insurance would run me around $300/month, so the rigs would literally act as house renters and pay the house for me over time.

Be careful, one of my neighbors i got him into mining to offset the cost of a new gaming pc and he added a 2nd GPU to his brand new computer we built together, little did i know he was going to add a 1080ti to copy me with his 1070 on a computer with only a Corsair 550w gold unit. We built it just one gpu, because that was all he wanted, but the mining earnings got him hooked and instead of asking me he decided to do it himself and just buy another gpu... not knowing the wattage draw of it. He was waken up in the middle of night because his fire alarm with off in his house, because the psu started dieing and started smoking, luckily nothing actually caught on fire, but if he was not home he could have burnt it down running it that close to the limits...

I dont think its the pools issue your having, i only have connection issues maybe 1 or twice a week... and usually it is back up and running a few minutes later.. in 99% of the cases its been around payout periods i have these issues.. but i just dont worry to much, because 10-20 minutes a week is what 5 cents of loss in profit?

My current 30 day running average is $4.61/per 1080ti, but this profit is a little off, because there was a few times during the month i had power outages for multiple hours and a few rigs lock up on me. I pull the wallet data from the pool server every 5 minutes for this info with a script...

I think you may have a setting wrong, because the 2 ccminers in the software can mine both of the coins you just mentioned between the 2 of them.

This is a benchmarking from another software not awesome miner, patrike is working on something in the future for benchmarking, but tell then i have just been trying to provide the community help to keep people up to date until he can get that feature out. I currently do not own any RX series AMD cards, but plan to purchase atleast 1 in the future along with a Vega to do testing with so i can stay ontop of the info myself. I dont own any AMD cards because during the periods i bought most of my equipment the amd cards were out of stock or overpriced, so i currently have 11 rigs of 1080ti's

All my rigs but 1 are unable to connect since the payout period went into effect. I think the server is overloaded between paying out and processing connections from miners.

I really wish i would have bought in on the 1070 minis when they were still affordable.. ive been sticking to the 1080ti's... the prices have been the least affected, so i keep buying them when on sale on ebay mostly, occasionally i find steals on wikibuy, but mostly i get off ebay.. like i bought 4 more last week when they had the 12% back to school thing on ebay bucks offer

You cannot compare the results on the same rig at different time periods. You need to test this at the same time on different rigs. I have personally tested running Nicehash and Zpool on Completely different rigs with same brand and type of cards, both had 4 x gigabyte 1080ti's running same settings. after running this for nearly a week my zpool rig averaged about 10% more in daily earnings on MOST days... some days it was very close.. but on MOST days it made more. The reason you see consistent profits on nicehash vs zpool with nemo is because nicehash you are providing hashing power to them for a specific algo when needed, the mined coins are not pending transfers on an exchange every so many minutes like they do on zpool, nicehash is RESELLING your mined coins to someone who buys hashing power from them to try and make some coin off the rental game... so literally all nicehash does is transfers the coins you just mined into someone elses alt coin wallet, then you get payed in return in BTC which the renter paid to rent your hashpower, there is no delays like zpool has with the exchanging of coins. The reason nicehash has higher pool fees compared to others, is because they keep a buffer in alt coins in their account, so the transfer of coins is instantly to clients, but throughout the day this causes slight losses and gains in coins they have to maintain in their buffer stash, so they charge higher pool fees to maintain this buffer, from my understanding is zpool sells off all mined coins everytime an exchange process occurs on his servers, so he has no buffer to maintain, so there is a delay in payouts as his exchange server processes the alt coin transactions. If he was to maintain a buffer, his fees would go up to the rate of nicehash and you would then have consistant earnings...

The benefit of zpool is he is CONSTANTLY adding new coins and algo's, nicehash only adds when their is enough demand from renters to rent your hashing power... so when a new coin comes on zpool the profits can be nearly 2x of nicehash for a short period tell that coins prices stabilizes...

Nicehash is probably best to mine when the market is slow, but zpool is better when there is a lot of volatility in coins

Hey Patrike,

Just wanted to update you on the newest CCminer that came to light yesterday from the addition of 7 new algos it supports along with some miner tweaks to older algo code....

https://github.com/signatumd/releases/raw/master/ccminer-2.2-skunk.zip

Here is the benchmarking results from my test rig i updated to test it on, shows how it compares to other ccminers. The current list is the top miners for each algo on both the GTX1080, GTX1080ti, and GTX 1070 from my benchmark results on multiple rigs

Test Rig: is a 3x 1080ti rig i ran the benchmark on. 65% tdp, 200+ core, 500+ mem

From what i understand yes, because at the top of the miner when it starts it says ccminer 2.2, it was just updated by member Skunk. He states he used ccminerTribus 2.1 as the base code to update from.

Wanted to post up how the new CCminerSkunk2.2 fairs up to my typical lineup of miners on the 1080ti's this is a 3x 1080ti rig i ran the benchmark on. 65% tdp, 200+ core, 500+ mem

https://github.com/signatumd/releases/raw/master/ccminer-2.2-skunk.zip

Hmm are you renting that space to place your rig there or something? just wish i had that type of access to me right now. When i built that 4U rig i ran it for a few hours and quickly noticed the temps were super high with the lid on, i was averaging 78-82c with the fans bouncing off 100% on the GPU's and this was with the filter removed from the front of the case, with the filter i was in the 80-84c range i noticed very quickly. I took the top off the case and now the rig sits happily in the 64-69c range, but i have since replaced the 1600w evga PSU in the server with a smaller 350w unit i got from local pc recycle center for $5 and moved the GPU's over to server power supplies and put that 1600watt unit being shared between 2 x 4 card 1080ti rigs. Yes i understand that the cards can overpower the PSU if ran at 100%, but run a scrypt on them that injects GPU settings every 5 minutes, so if a GPU every resets on one of the rigs, 5 minutes later its been corrected back down on teh TDP

I really appreciate the response, just to add to the switching time reasoning. I ran multiple 4 card rigs on different intervals for a few days, initially my 30/60 minute intervals were leading, but what i found after running these test multiple days on zpool, was when the small shit coins with super inconsistent profits have their crazy spikes like they do a few times a day for a few minutes. You will see them spike for like 5 or 6x their normal profit values for x amount of minutes, sometimes i have caught spikes for less than 3 minutes at 10x levels, so after catching enough of these over a 24hr period for multiple days the results on my rigs i was testing with changed...

Basically on the longer 30/60 minute intervals, they pulled ahead on the days the market is very slow and not alot of trade volume or volatility is occurring on the coins, but after running my test for 4 1/2 days the last 2 days of the testing i had a lot of spikes occur, which resulted in my 1 minute interval rig overcoming the gap in earnings and pulled ahead by a good margin tell the spikes went away on the 1/2 day before my testing was interupted by hardware issue due to power cutting out for multiple hours from thunderstorm, which also caused me to suffer multiple gpu loss....

since then, i have left 1 rig on 30 and placed all my others on 1 minute intervals and even tho the 30 minute interval is not trailing by much, but over 2 weeks of running it this way on zpool, the super high spike days just keep the earnings just slightly higher by about 3-5% on most days, so with the crazy traffic going on with btc soaring back up after the segwit scares, the spikes have been steadily pulling daily about 5% a day on earnings..

the few days that btc was around 1800-2000, the 30 minute interval blew past and stayed ahead for a few days tell this current week in mining...

to bad their is not some sort of indicator you could easily add to the software to detect the estimated best interval time based on volatility... because 1 super crazy high spike will pump your mining wallet in a very short period of time, all while your still mining away at something else during a 30 minute window..

I have always wondered if you could set like a hybrid profit switch set of rules, basically use the 24hr actual earnings JSON data as the main source of info for the profit switching, basically mine the coin with the highest AVERAGE 24hr profit earings rate per hardware, then throw in rules which would check the server every 60 seconds for possible high spikes, then set up rules if profit from new coin is higher than 2x or 3x current mined coin, then switch, otherwise continue to mine current most proifitable 24hr earning algo...

This type of switching would limit the amount of switching unless there is multiple coins within pennies of each other in 24hr profit earnings, but it could potentially catch the super high spikes to add extra to the wallet. The longer mining periods on the 24hr coins would allow you to get the long block bonuses as from my research, the coins with highest 24hr profits for my 1080ti rigs maybe change 1-3 times a WEEK, so the same algo would be mined for longer periods of time... I think this would potentially be the highest way to make earnings off a pool like zpool, but not MPH

Are you running this inside of a air conditioned room?