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[Volgastallion]

Finally we have a race to see, in terms of fight for the win.

The most shamefull thing was the crash of Russel, this its gonna cost him a lot inside the team, he cant overtake Norris and make the team lose the chance of win the race, and also managed to crash in the last lap, making with that lose a ton of secured points to the team.

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Good control of the race for Sainz.
Leclerc got unlucky with the safety car otherwise it was an easy 1-2.


Next week we will have the answer, if Redbull is slow then the change made from FIA, nerfed them.

[swogerino]

Good control of the race for Sainz.
Leclerc got unlucky with the safety car otherwise it was an easy 1-2.


Next week we will have the answer, if Redbull is slow then the change made from FIA, nerfed them.

Leclerc was sacrificed to favor Sainz win and in the end Ferrari was right because they won the race as the end result.The Safety Car was a super big help for Sainz in this race as it was timed perfectly before the top guys were to enter pit stop anyway and this was a big unlucky moment for Redbull.

I agree though,Redbull looked more like a normal car during today race and next race we will have our answer,even if FIA made this change to regulations to stop Redbull unfortunately only 7 or 8 races remain which does not do any harm to Redbull campaign anyway for this season at least.

[dothebeats]

Wow, that Red Bull car looked slow today. It could have been the ruling made by the FIA that somewhat sent them back. Well, it's about damn time for F1 to be interesting again and not utter "another Red Bull win" whenever a race is happening.

Anyway, Sainz looked clean on taking the win today, and I feel like Ferrari is slowly favoring him to be the main driver with Leclerc being the supporting one. Understandable given the circumstances on this particular race, though not sure in the next races to come. And for Russel, I feel for the guy. Last lap and everything went to shambles for them.

[LTU_btc]

It was best race of season without any doubts. How Sainz used Norris as his back wing and letting him to be in DRS zone and help to keep both Mercedes behind was simply genius. I agree with post above that Ferrari had to sacrifice Leclerc. It's popular to mock Ferrari strategy, but I'm not really sure that was possible for Lecler to finish 2nd.
Russel crash, I don't reallly know what to say - one moment you fight for the win, next you crash into wall.
Lawson earned first career points today and it was serious statement to get seat in F1 for next season.

[boltz]

Finally we have a race to see, in terms of fight for the win.

The most shamefull thing was the crash of Russel, this its gonna cost him a lot inside the team, he cant overtake Norris and make the team lose the chance of win the race, and also managed to crash in the last lap, making with that lose a ton of secured points to the team.

The most entertaining race of the season so far and if the remaining races will be like this one , we are set in for an epic end of the season where from 2nd to 4th place in constructors championship anything can happen as McLaren , Ferrari and Mercedes are fighting for this spots and maybe , Aston Martin will be back to fight with them as well even if they kinda screwed their car with latest updates...

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Leclerc was sacrificed to favor Sainz win and in the end Ferrari was right because they won the race as the end result.The Safety Car was a super big help for Sainz in this race as it was timed perfectly before the top guys were to enter pit stop anyway and this was a big unlucky moment for Redbull.

I agree though,Redbull looked more like a normal car during today race and next race we will have our answer,even if FIA made this change to regulations to stop Redbull unfortunately only 7 or 8 races remain which does not do any harm to Redbull campaign anyway for this season at least.

Well was necessary.

If Leclerc waited 1 more lap without the double pit he was entering in last position.

I've seen nothing wrong there.

[püsür]

Leclerc was sacrificed to favor Sainz win and in the end Ferrari was right because they won the race as the end result.The Safety Car was a super big help for Sainz in this race as it was timed perfectly before the top guys were to enter pit stop anyway and this was a big unlucky moment for Redbull.

I agree though,Redbull looked more like a normal car during today race and next race we will have our answer,even if FIA made this change to regulations to stop Redbull unfortunately only 7 or 8 races remain which does not do any harm to Redbull campaign anyway for this season at least.

Well was necessary.

If Leclerc waited 1 more lap without the double pit he was entering in last position.

I've seen nothing wrong there.

This is the race where there should be no reaction to Ferrari's prioritization of Sainz. He took pole yesterday, so he became the priority man for Ferrari today. Today he managed the whole race very well, especially with his drs strategy at the end. Kudos to him, he deserved this win. finally we got the ferrari win. It was by far the most entertaining and exciting race of the season. Mercedes gambled by pitting and closed the 14 second gap by accelerating by 2 seconds every lap. Sainz deliberately slowed down so that the mercedes would not approach and took norris within drs distance. You like sainz or not, but he handled the last 5 laps of the race very well, especially the last 5 laps of the race on flat tires.

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This is the race where there should be no reaction to Ferrari's prioritization of Sainz. He took pole yesterday, so he became the priority man for Ferrari today. Today he managed the whole race very well, especially with his drs strategy at the end. Kudos to him, he deserved this win. finally we got the ferrari win. It was by far the most entertaining and exciting race of the season. Mercedes gambled by pitting and closed the 14 second gap by accelerating by 2 seconds every lap. Sainz deliberately slowed down so that the mercedes would not approach and took norris within drs distance. You like sainz or not, but he handled the last 5 laps of the race very well, especially the last 5 laps of the race on flat tires.

He deserved the win for sure.

About the most entertaining race of the season, depends.
We went in good races in the past too but with rain and a lot of overtakes.

This one was for sure the most tactical we got, but here is almost impossible to overtake.

[swogerino]

This is the race where there should be no reaction to Ferrari's prioritization of Sainz. He took pole yesterday, so he became the priority man for Ferrari today. Today he managed the whole race very well, especially with his drs strategy at the end. Kudos to him, he deserved this win. finally we got the ferrari win. It was by far the most entertaining and exciting race of the season. Mercedes gambled by pitting and closed the 14 second gap by accelerating by 2 seconds every lap. Sainz deliberately slowed down so that the mercedes would not approach and took norris within drs distance. You like sainz or not, but he handled the last 5 laps of the race very well, especially the last 5 laps of the race on flat tires.

He deserved the win for sure.

About the most entertaining race of the season, depends.
We went in good races in the past too but with rain and a lot of overtakes.

This one was for sure the most tactical we got, but here is almost impossible to overtake.

We go in another race where is difficult to overtake too so in there who starts first also wins the race if there are no complications.We have to see and if Ferrari wins again it means that the car has received much needed upgrades that is showing of now in the race results,we need a team who can face Redbull,no matter which team is it is great to have a new winner like we had today after 14 races dominated by Redbull we have a new team winner,a Ferrari first win for 2023.

The Suzuka track will also point out if Redbull is really suffering or this race was just a mistake in the setup of their car which I highly believe to not have been the case.

[retreat]

Good control of the race for Sainz.
Leclerc got unlucky with the safety car otherwise it was an easy 1-2.


Next week we will have the answer, if Redbull is slow then the change made from FIA, nerfed them.

After a quite dramatic race, Sainz finally emerged as the winner. He can prove that Ferrari is still competitive and not as bad as people think. Sainz can maintain his performance and not be too aggressive in taking lanes. He can align himself with the Singapore circuit and that is very good. It was just unlucky for Leclerc because he had to lose his position due to the safety car, even at the end of the race he still couldn't catch P3. And finally Max had to end his winning streak in this race after finishing in P5. It seems that this circuit is not very friendly with Red Bull, it is evident that they have to struggle to catch Ferrari and have to settle for P5 and P8.
Yes, I can say that the Singapore GP is very exciting to watch and I can't wait for the next race.

[Davian144]

This week MotoGp will be active again at a new circuit and also in a new country, it is the first round for MotoGp at the Buddh International Circuit in India, which according to news reports, the circuit is the former venue for Formula 1. However, I read a little news from the media id.motorsport.com that there has been a bit of chaos ahead of the debut of the Indian MotoGP. Many MotoGP paddock personnel and racers, including Marc Marquez, are currently unable to fly there due to visa problems.

[emrecemsan]

We are in Japan this time. Verstappen looked very ambitious after the latest race. He wants to make up for that bad result very much. I remember what he did in Japan last season as well. He completely dominated the weekend by taking pole position and winning the race by a huge time gap at the same time. I think we are likely to watch a similar weekend to that. Rain expectation isn't much for the weekend. By the way maybe there would still be a good fight for pole position.

Because there was a great fight in the previous qualifying in Suzuka between Verstappen and Leclerc as well. It would be nice to see such competition again.

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Fun, terrible fact.

They did the math and the impact of the accident with Stroll the past week was at the force of 50G.

This is impressive, I'm not sure that a normal human (not f1 athlete with huge neck muscles) can survive at it.

[Davian144]

In the midst of several complaints and delays occurring in India regarding preparations for the MotoGP event for this weekend, Hungary also intends to return to the 2024 World Superbike (WSBK) calendar while thinking about how to enter the MotoGP calendar. This was stated by Dorna, the WSBK and MotoGP promoter, in collaboration with the Hungarian Mobility Development Agency (HUMDA) who will homologate the Balaton Park circuit with the aim of hosting WorldSBK 2024. _{Source: id.motorsport.com}

[alegotardo]

Fun, terrible fact.

They did the math and the impact of the accident with Stroll the past week was at the force of 50G.

This is impressive, I'm not sure that a normal human (not f1 athlete with huge neck muscles) can survive at it.

A few weeks ago I saw a video they made to "test" the ability of normal people to deal with the force of gravity on their heads and then comparing it to another video of an F1 driver... it's an absurd difference.
I believe that a "normal" person would certainly come away with some serious consequences from this accident.

Regarding the accident, Stroll compared its impact to the same one he suffered at the Mugello circuit during the 2020 campaign, saying that both had a very similar intensity.

I believe that Stroll took the right action in not racing at the Singapore circuit... unfortunately Aston Martin as a whole is not doing very well either, with Fernando Alonso finishing in last place after a series of incidents he had.
Who knows, maybe things will get better in Japan!?

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2023 F1 Japanese Grand Prix - Free Practice Results (1)
Pos    Driver    Nat.   Team    Time
1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m31.647s
2   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m32.273s
3   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m32.392s
4   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m32.574s
5   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m32.597s
6   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m32.650s
7   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m32.713s
8   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m32.991s
9   Liam Lawson   NZL   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m33.005s
10   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m33.040s
11   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m33.043s
12   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m33.129s
13   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m33.310s
14   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m33.448s
15   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m33.516s
16   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m33.699s
17   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m33.860s
18   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m33.975s
19   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m34.212s
20   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m34.831s

Free practice 1 done in Japan.

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1036174/1/f1-japanese-grand-prix-2023-friday-practice-results


Max is back, Ferraris confirm their strength.

[swogerino]

Max looks back and with a big margin at his hands despite the Ferrari being second,it is 0.7 seconds in a lap in a technical track like this one meaning will be difficult for any team to have a go at trying to stop these guys.It was a good thing that at least Ferrari won in Singapore as at least this Championship season was not going to have finished with Redbull winning every race,that would have been really bad for fans and viewers of this sport.

The good thing though that come out from this qualifying practice is that most teams are with less than 0.5 seconds distance between all of them and this promises fierce competition in Sunday race.

[Koal-84]

On the new MotoGP track in India, many are still looking for their setup and the best tyre choice, but so far everyone  tried the soft and medium tyres, on the new track there will still be too little grip for harder tyres. So far it looks like Bezzecchi will be the best on the new track, new tracks usually make for an exciting weekend 😊.

[Davian144]

On the new MotoGP track in India, many are still looking for their setup and the best tyre choice, but so far everyone  tried the soft and medium tyres, on the new track there will still be too little grip for harder tyres. So far it looks like Bezzecchi will be the best on the new track, new tracks usually make for an exciting weekend 😊.

Apart from that, all riders are also studying the layout of the new Indian circuit today because there are several corners that look so difficult that each rider needs to find adjustments for themselves. The weather conditions are quite good and the straight track is also very long so it will be easy food for a manufacturer like Ducati which is very famous for its power. Now I'm watching the P2 session for Moto3 while watching FP1 for WSBK because this weekend WSBK will also be held in Aragon, Spain.