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5501  Economy / Economics / Re: BITCOIN IS NOT A STORE OF VALUE on: September 01, 2022, 10:31:44 AM
Pay attention:
The time of abundance is over, this means less energy , less finance, less food, and a lot less people.
Proof of Waste can't survive except in a time of abundance.

oh.. i see your one of them conspiracy guys that have watched 20 "eugenics" "new world order" videos.. which have spread virally through media..

i actually am a realist. i knew as far back as the 1980's that oil/coal was running out.

but lets point you in the right direction of history and future that may actually tickle your anti-gov anti corp feelings. but using actual common sense, logic, physics, economics and math


the gulf wars and such were not due to humanitarian efforts, they were due to trying to steal oil/gas because america/europe was running out domestically in the 80's so needed to grab some from elsewhere

the whole "carbon crisis" is more of a business deal to get public funding to pay for private business to transition over to renewables because.. no surprise coal/oil/gas reserves would run out by 2030-2050 the same guestimate date era that is called out as the carbon(climate crisis) point of no return

yes carbon is a lung health risk. but a 0.x% to 0.xy% is not a big enough change to 'kill everyone' (like you think)
the atmosphere alarm about warming/cooling. is more about water. not carbon
yep less water in the air means less rain = less cooling.
all them dams and reservoirs, water pipes, sewers over the last century have caused more impact on temperature.. those human constructed things prevent free water flow to wet the land, thus cant cool the land as much

which means less water to evaporate to then cause more rain. which means less coolling
its called the water cycle (elementary school stuff)
messing with the water cycle(yes its human caused climate crises, but its water not coal thats to blame most)

try it.. get 2 glasses of water. walk into your yard where the sun beams down onto your pavement/drive/patio.. put 1 glass as-is on the ground. and pour the other across the ground as a puddle.. you will see that the free flowing water across land evaporates. where as the one in the dammed reservoir does not evaporate as much)
(yes thats the downside of hydro power plants. the need of dams have dried the land and messed with the water cycle)

next get 2 glasses with lids. half fill both glasses. put the lids on but in one glass blow just 0.x% of smoke vs the air % of the half glass of air

wait and then check the temperature difference later on.. the change is not noticable.

you then learn when the day rains.. the temperature drops more then the carbon(smoke) difference.

yep all these "try its" are things you can do, easily by yourself
(also look at the cries about the brazilian "RAIN"forest. and not a mention of a "carbon"forest. and realise what is being impacted by deforestation
....
anyways back to the power consumption and utility which you think will ban things..

 power companies dont have or dont want to pay out of their own pocket to transition to renewables, as its not cheap. they know they have to do it by 2030-2050 as they will have no resource to produce energy via fossil fuel by then.
yep all oil and coal would run out, so the climate crises message about fossil fuel would self fulfil/solve itself by being 0% fossil energy production by then anyway
yep with fossil fuel running out by 2050. there would be 0% fossil fuel production by 2050 by doing absolutely nothing different.

. so they are trying to get the public to fund their evolution by finding some humanitarian reason to get the public to fund their activities
again like getting the public to fund the gulf wars to grab oil from other countries by calling it a humanitarian crises.
..
so if you want to follow some agenda capitalism has against individuals. atleast do some research and not quote the stories of media.


here is the thing. when they make new power plants based on renewable.. the build costs are not based on supplying current demands. the cost is based on demands of 20-50 years.. meaning the cost is 3-5x higher than current demand, because the demand now is not sufficient to pay the cost over all. which delays making such power plants now

think about it if they have a region of 1m houses, but build  a power plant to support the future 3mill houses. they are only now going to get 33% potential income because there is only 1m houses paying bills, not 3m

so they want business. they want users of electric to consume that 2m houses excess NOW. so they can cover their costs now and expand sooner

..
this is why energy prices are higher. because instead of using old cheap energy production, regions are having to use higher rate renewable energy that costs more.

those with the less accessible old energy production get to raise their prises because of competition. allowing them to raise their prices. where they profit and the hope was that profit would be used to transition to renewable
..
summary
power plants transitioning to renewables want new business of high electric demand to move into their region so they can get 100% potential income instead of the slow 30% income in first few years of demand.

..
the banning of mining. is not about not wanting it..
its about banning it so that they can then control the licence/permits of where they will then allow it.
yep they want to be able to make licences/permits that allow asic farms to set up. but they first need to be able to control it. which first requires banning it.
5502  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: same passphrase, different results on: August 31, 2022, 09:09:50 PM
many wallets just simply SHA the word (foo becomes the sha beginning 2C26B4)

where as other wallets treat the word as a seed phase that has other steps inplace to allow multiple addresses to be generated from the same word

this is where you have to know which wallet supports what type of key entry. as some do straight import privkey. some do simple brainwallet and some do passphrase
5503  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Early Birds are always on time - Bitcoin, king In the crypto space. on: August 31, 2022, 05:03:29 PM
However, I foresee a situation where; Bitcoin becomes less stable as it absorbs more investors and adoption grows leading to price stability. And then, a new demand would arise from stability, opening the door wider to a different type of investors and the potential for more rapid growth i.e, volatility.

not quite

there is a defined window. based on economic logic, fundamentals
the price will sit/bounce/wiggle somewhere in this window, but this window wont just go back to 100X scale wide

that window is about a 6X from bottom to top ($15k-$90k)

however when things like proper ETF's are open to pension funds then yes there will be more 'buys' meaning more volatility within this window. meaning less stagnations of sitting at a $20k+- level for a couple months. and instead go from Y to y*2 or y*3 more often within that window

pension funds and ETF wont be buying millions of coins in one day($20bill+)
they will be trading randomly different days different portfolio's. where by you wil see the ups and downs happen more often

it can spark a shift of the window by the trades shifting the profits of other outside fundamentals that affect the window. where by the window can shift
to EG
$25k-$140k
$35k-$190k
but thats a secondary slow effect. to the ups and downs within the $15k-$90k window this quarter
5504  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 5,000 BTC from Satoshi-Era Wallet Moved on: August 31, 2022, 03:55:50 PM

If the user in question here wanted to move $100 million in fiat from one bank account to another, how much paperwork do you think they would need to fill in for their bank? How many people would they need to speak to and get permission from first, both at their bank and the receiving bank? How many third parties would need to sign off on it first?
Ever heard of a cashiers check? https://www.investopedia.com/best-ways-to-get-a-cashier-s-check-4590106

That's all they would need to do. Bring ID to the bank and pay the cashiers check fee. Everything has a fee for sending, even bitcoin.

if i wanted to move my hoard from one address to another... none of that.
i dont even have to put my shoes on..

..let alone not need to get value transferred from
digital currency->paper currency(check)->digital currency
which generates CTR and requires ID and yep takes 2 days to clear
(only amounts under $5.5k are same day no ID depending on bank)

you will find cashiers checks are actually more variable/complicated
5505  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Early Birds are always on time - Bitcoin, king In the crypto space. on: August 31, 2022, 12:41:12 PM
if you invested $1000 in 2010 ($0.32)
and sold in 2011 hype  ($32.00)  100x = $100k ($99k profit)

if you bought $1000 in 2012 ($12)
and sold in 2013 hype  ($1200)  100x = $100k ($99k profit)

if you bought $1000 in 2014 ($200)
and sold in 2017 hype  ($20,000)  100x = $100k ($99k profit)

if you bought $1000 in 2015 ($600)
and sold in 2018 ($6,000)  10x = $10k ($9k profit)

if you bought $1000 in 2016 ($700)
and sold in 2019 ($7,000)  10x = $10k ($9k profit)

if you bought $1000 in 2018 ($6,000)
and sold in 2021 hype  ($60,000)  10x = $10k ($9k profit)

if you bought $1000 in 2019 ($7,000)
and sold in 2021 ($70,000)  10x = $10k ($9k profit)
..
if you bought $1000 in 2020 ($9,000)
and sold..in.. well im gonna guess 2022 ($90,000)
..
as for 2021 low of $17k
there is no chance of a $170k price in 2021*. so you might have to wait a couple years

but a $90k
*window(based on the mining window of fundemental low hihg costs possibility of an economic window price sits withn) there is a chance of a $90k in the next year)
so those buying at the lows of 2020 may get returns next year.

..
yes early adopters got 100x within a year. where things are more like 10x in 2-4 years.
which in a decade may become more lower/stable increments
5506  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can this be the reason some people are afraid to invest in Bitcon? on: August 31, 2022, 12:22:45 PM
bitcoin was/is promoted to the groups of people that fear banks, fear custodians. or dont have a bank account due to undeveloped countries.

so then having to put money into an account to get bitcoin.. is a slap in the face of the promise

under developed countries should develop local kiosks (like africa does with M-pesa)
thus skip the whole bank account->CEX part

basically trade locally/face to face rather then rely on central services
5507  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 5,000 BTC from Satoshi-Era Wallet Moved on: August 31, 2022, 11:35:56 AM
Has someone an explanation for these several 47.98469209 BTC in the output of the 5000 BTC? Check the transaction: https://explorer.viawallet.com/btc/tx/0219d5bd944889a670687ffdf75e2d265b6066a355118eedd860a6aeb6f2eb32

using common sense.

if i was a holder of 5000coin(more then this in other stashes i own for many reasons)
lets say i was also a mining pool and/or exchange (lets say i was houbi)
(im not houbi, im using hypothetical common sense narrative)


i hoard coin over X years from profits of many reasons. trading/exchange, investing/mining but recently due to some reason its time to pay out some of the mining rewards of old users/investors wanting to take their shares/splits
of investment i was custodian of for a long time

so i grab a stash i have (just happen to be a 2013 stash)
i break it up into allotments of blockrewards minus fee's (47.9826209) from an old excel sheet of old blocksolves i logged and kept for accounting reasons
for the numerous blocks that my pool solved ages ago

i then split them coins up to pay out to mining owners that got shares in my pools activity

also another hypothetical.
they dont want to move around amounts of more then $100k to users/people


that said.
rather then all of the speculation that 5000btc is being thrown into the market as 1 lump to tank othe price (never happened) its actually appears to be a movement from cold to hotwallet. and then split apart to give payouts for many allotments going different places
5508  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 5,000 BTC from Satoshi-Era Wallet Moved on: August 31, 2022, 09:30:56 AM
first TX was in 2013

not satoshi era
this could be one of the MTgox batches as its more of mtgox era not satoshi era

nevertheless kids, its good to understand that there's always people hodling bitcoin waiting for you to forget they have a huge stash they want to unload onto the market and they won't necessarily care if that makes your bitcoin become worth less in price when they do that. they're not using bitcoin to buy something or anything.

i have a hoard from the 2012 era. and the 2013 era. (and other era after that)
oh and i buy real life stuff with bitcoin.
food, furnishings, tools, gadgets, travel, transport.
i have no desires to just exit in a large mass market sell off.. thats just shooting self in the foot

also 5k coins is not a big deal in the scope of millions in volume. its a blip on the scale. a small wiggle in the scope of market prices


though i am a realist and dont fear mentioning bitcoin flaws. i still use and prefer bitcoin more than fiat. for many reasons. i dont need to spout out exaggerations of bitcoin utopia(over-promising/lying by exaggeration). i do however also avoid exaggerating pretending bitcoin is dead/not fit.

bitcoin is functional with a mass of opportunity and utility and purpose. even if it is currently a lil stifled by some dev politics games currently

its open fair minded realist thoughts of both good and bad. so that people have the whole information.
...
i dont see bitcoin as a "price"... the market "price" is meaningless to me. this is not the same as not caring. its just that the whims of daily price activity are not worth crying about.
EG when the PRICE dips. thats not a warning to start crying. thats a opportunity to buy at a discount of future price.
when the price moves by 5%. i dont care if its going up or down.
i have both fiat and bitcoin.
a 5% up, is a oppertunity to sell a chunk to increase fiat reserves for later buys
a 5% down, is a oppertunity to buy a chunk to increase btc reserves for later sells

i personally away from an exchange, use and prefer to use bitcoin for daily activities. but inside an exchange, ..market price movements of both up and down are not reasons to cry or be upset. they are just opportunities to increase reserves of one side or the other. its not about trying to pump a price
its not about trying to dump the price
5509  Economy / Economics / Re: BITCOIN IS NOT A STORE OF VALUE on: August 31, 2022, 09:16:13 AM
BTC PoW mining will be banned worldwide within ~2½ years,
because the people are going to raise ever lovin cane about btc miners driving up energy rates when the people rate is going to triple.

try to do some math
work out the KWH of a electric car doing just 20miles a day(normal use)
multiply that by how many cars need to be electric soon

then realise that cars would require MORE electric than bitcoin mining industry
..
the bitcoin asics are getting far better at efficiency than an electric car can get
in the 8 years (2014-2022) of asics.
going from a 3.25kw GPU rack of a couple GHASH
to a asic of 3.25KW achieving ~158,000Ghash. in just 8 years
is alot better then the car batters 5% more efficient per generation/year

over the last year alone bitcoin hashrate has remained around the 200exa amount
but the electric has changed from about 80thash for 3.25kwh
to be ~158thash for 3.25  (~255 for 5.3)

meaning HALF the amount of electric, less amount of physical asics to still have 210exa network

math and a calculator are far more superior than a article/youtube video with bias
5510  Economy / Economics / Re: BITCOIN IS NOT A STORE OF VALUE on: August 31, 2022, 08:50:06 AM
1. control your own keys = security
    custodian your value = risk..

he used the mtgox(custodian) which is nothing to do with using your own key security.. so first fail on him not understanding bitcoin principles

2. 'stable of price' is not the same as 'store of value'..  price and value are not the same number/thing

so second fail on him not understanding bitcoin . and first fail on not understanding economics

3. he thinks more retailers accept gold as payment than bitcoin. not true
i guy food, gadgets, and other daily lifestyle stuff in bitcoin, yet those same retailers wont accept gold

4. as for gold.. he claims bitcoin seizures are more common than gold
governments seize more gold than bitcoin per year
lets take india. it seized 9.8billion RS of gold in 2019 ($128m)
but india has not seized >$128m in btc
india reported in 2019 they seized less than $2m of bitcoin (60x less)
5511  Economy / Economics / Re: Rich Mindset vs Poor Mindset : 5 key differences on: August 31, 2022, 08:21:22 AM
heres a good financial example of mistakes poor people make

imagine there is a car worth $20k, on a 4 year loan with 0%
a poor person pays $5k a year. $416 a month(AFTER TAXES). and its in their name. but not their property until final settlement payment. after 4 years even on a 0% interest. that poor person has actually paid $22k of their pretax salary, for a car they might get to own that becomes $10k value if you then sold
thus minus $12k loss

a rich person hires a car for $200 a month.. which over 4 years is $9.6k
but they claim the payments as a tax deductible meaning they only actually paid $9.6k that period.
thus saving $12.4k they didnt need to spend in that first period.

..
poor people like to "own" things that break down, need repair and end up costing them more then they realise.

rich people plan to avoid owning things that can break/cost them more long term.



5512  Economy / Economics / Re: Rich Mindset vs Poor Mindset : 5 key differences on: August 31, 2022, 07:55:47 AM
🗝️🗝️ Rich people tend to be risk takers but poor person is more likely to be risk averse. For example, when given an opportunity to invest in a startup, poor people are more likely to immediately turn this down. They do not see this as a chance to increase wealth. They see this as a reduction of their disposable income. 🗝️🗝️

i agree with all statements apart from this one above

rich people have more opportunities without it messing up their life so they take more opportunities with less risk
poor people have more risks but dont have opportunities. but poor do take more risks
EG poor people are more likely to be gamblers/not pay rent so they can be consumers and buy things they shouldnt be buying, risking eviction
..
poor people are not "given" opportunities. EG startups dont door not poor neighbourhoods, they go to rich investors and ask for a large seed amount a poor person cant even afford, thus dont even get a chance to invest in startups


..
poor people dont plan on saving/investing. they prefer the "get rick quick" where,
the hope to double their money in a year as a 1 time in, one time out ASAP action.
where as rich people take small percentage profits daily multiple times, which add up to the "get rich" same multiplier poor people want, over the same year.
..
poor people are told to buy the hype/pump
rich people are trained to buy the dip/crash
..
a poor person would buy a car, and pay it off.. not owning it, but having it in their name. where its not theirs until paid in full, risking losing the car and the income that went into it if a debt collector came to the door.
a rich person hires a car, for lower monthly amount. and debt collectors cant seize a car thats not in the rich guys name.
5513  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Why do people forget their passwords? on: August 30, 2022, 11:47:04 PM
the silly thing is most websites that store passwords store them "as received"
where by if someone used 'password123' the website stores 'password123'

thus requiring people to be creative with P455w0Rd.wh0n!Tu#Fr33
which if people forget where the # or ! is they can not gain access to the website

other mechanisms could be that
instead of typing in password123
they could SHA it
and type in password123 into a encoder and paste in
ef92b778bafe771e89245b89ecbc08a44a4e166c06659911881f383d4473e94f
to the website. so that the website stores and waits to see
ef92b778bafe771e89245b89ecbc08a44a4e166c06659911881f383d4473e94f
yo give the sender access

that way a bruteforce hacker trying to just start at
password1-password100000
would not get access in 123 tries. because he would need a few millenia to try all the tries to start from ascii trying all possible combinations to a answer that is 64characters long

..
the other option.. much preferable. is a password that changed with each entry..
take for instance a login prompt that has a message
"say open sesame 31/08/2022 morning"

and the website has a known public key registered by the user at signup
you sign the message using your key. and so they can validate only you had access to that key and the signature is unique to that morning session. which the message changes at afternoon, evening and night

where by a brute forcer cannot just spend 6 hours trying every combination that matches a signature that matches the message of that session. because the length of a signature. has soo many combinations that no one can brute all of them in 6 hours(it would take a few millenia)

plus.. as the topic shows.
it makes it easier by not having to remember a password.
and instead learning how to backup a private key

where by the one key can be used to make many access results for many websites.

where the ultimate answer is dont just remember a password/phrase. back it up securely!
5514  Other / Serious discussion / Re: What is self-victory? on: August 30, 2022, 11:31:26 PM
if your mindset is to set a limit.    also expand your mind. set a goal.
yep limit is a wall.. but a goal is a target. where you can easily move the goal posts, alot easier than moving a wall
5515  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Serious question on loan and investment on: August 30, 2022, 11:20:12 PM
if you do not have any spare fiat money to start.
where one-three missed repayments can cause problems. NO dont use loans

if you have the fiat to just pay off a loan in full worse case.. but you just dont want to use your money upfront to buy something big. then sure use a loan.

the original idea for loans, was that when a business had $XX cashflow to buy $XX stock/product to sell for next season, to then profit..$XZ
but then had to buy a large item mid season for $XX. taking that cashflow out of stock supply (to buy the large item) then destroys future profits.. by not being able to buy stock/products ready for next seasons sales

so businesses would take a loan for $XX. to buy the large item. whist still having $XX cashflow to buy stock/products to continue to make $XZ income.
where by the loan amount is then spread out as conveniently small $C repayments that dont affect the cash flow(product purchase for next seasons sells) $XZ
and then the new product also has potential to grow even more profits than the current $XZ
..

however if you have no spare cash to generate new bigger amount of cash to cover the new higher outgoing(repayment).
and the limited income you do get to cover current costs means you cant spare anything
then taking out a loan which then reduces how much income you can spend on the normal stuff you spent before.
is a downward spiral
..
only use a loan if:
1. you can ALWAYS afford to pay it off.. (no "maybe if i change this or do that i might afford")
2. the late payment fee's or interest rate is not going to cause later problems for you in  a snowball affect(use only low interest/low fee rate loans)
3. if you lose any current cashflow/hoarded vale preloan. and the investment using the loan then tanks.. you still have income to pay off the loan without devastating your life

if you are thinking "take the risk because its a sure thing to stand on a cliff and hope the wind doesnt blow you over the edge" where you naively think it can only go on one safe direction.. dont risk it. especially if you have no back up if things go in the wrong direction, because you are already at a cliff edge. hoping not to be blown over


take microstrategy
they have (well more so than this) $190m spare cash to do normal business stuff
they also had $205m of assets(well more so) to use as collateral to insure the loan. as a double protection to know they can safely pay off the loan in any case.

but instead of spending $190m of their own business cashflow. they took a loan for $205m, backed by their existing assets. to then buy $190m of new assets

whereby the repayment interest for the year was $8m. meaning the spare $15m would cover the first years interest in full plus X amount of months of first repayments.

thus no need to touch any of their (preloan) money/assets for a while..

yep
even though their new asset purchase of $190m of coin bought at $30k each. is now priced as $20k each..(valued at $126m total)
MS still has not needed to touch the backed asset collateral, nor its own regular business money on repayments. thus no loss even when the new asset price has dropped 33%. so not needed to even sell any of the new assets, thus no real world loss of the new assets, because there is no need to spend them(you dont lose until you spend at a loss)
5516  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do you all ignore alternative tech on Bitcoin? on: August 30, 2022, 06:01:18 PM
all the people in the above posts, talking about NFT, from the scammy scenario of where NFT is being used for stupid stuff

i agree NFT for silly trading cards and art thats all overpriced is all crap... useless utility of NFT


..
but in other usecases that NFT could do some actual business, retail and experience for people on the internet.. NFT can actually be used for alot that is nothing to do with silly art crap..


we should be pushing for a bitcoin sidenet(with strong peg/unlike other pegs for bitcoin altnets)
which then bridge value over to the side net. which then allows REAL ideals of actual things of business and trade which are done via NFT.. not the silly art show crap
5517  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stylometry cannot find Satoshi, because he never published any article before ! on: August 30, 2022, 11:26:06 AM
he wrote many things, emails, whitepaper code comments
you can learn certain things about satoshi.

but because the context of all writings were bitcoin related. where there was nothing "bitcoin" before 2008.. ofcourse the silly search tools wont find comparisons because no one.. absolutely no one said certain words before 2008

when someone repeats "bitcoin" "blockchain" "electronic cash"
those search programs pick up on the most used words..

which yes wont be found pre 2008

he was not careful. he was just ontopic. which by default makes it hard to find, when the topic didnt even exist pre 2008
5518  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 5,000 BTC from Satoshi-Era Wallet Moved on: August 30, 2022, 11:04:22 AM
first TX was in 2013

not satoshi era
this could be one of the MTgox batches as its more of mtgox era not satoshi era
5519  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I have a doubt about Bitcoin on: August 29, 2022, 07:19:46 PM
with a credit card or your bank, you have protections and might be able to do chargeback if you got scammed, not so with bitcoin. no buyer protection there.

the thing is those "protection features" of credit cards.. are also abuse features.
many many times scammers actually use those chargeback features to scam..
they buy a product. then pretend their account was hacked to get money back. thus get product for free..

yep chargeback scamming happens alot. many retailers have to add in extra things to then reduce the amount of chargeback scamming. (extra protection at fund recipient end)
meaning fiat is easy to send, but easy to return which then needs an extra step tp protect against the easy return at the recipient end(3 step process and still not immutable/free of risk)



bitcoins finality and immutability of settlement is good security. its a 1 step. where by people need to actually control their spending and they themselves have to be risk aware and secure about their fund store right from the first step.

rather than relying on middle men to take on the risk/control your value, where then the recipient then needs to protect against the middleman ability to reverse

you can ofcourse use custodians and have that system.. but then its a 'not your key not your coin'. so why pretend to say you are a bitcoiner
5520  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We are all Hodlonaut on: August 29, 2022, 02:31:32 PM
many people making real art and displaying it in galleries in cities to sell. end up selling for alot less than what an ETH is worth,...


the crap of games of NFT is to try to sell crap for expensive amounts of double digit ETH.. just so they can set a level of what other crap NFT should expect to sell for.. so by trying to sell an item for 50 ETH  is not about getting a large donation for a good cause. its about using the cause as a clickbait advert to then hype up that a crap NFT is worth a lot of money, as a way to keep pushing that anything made using NFT should sell for a large double digit amounts even if the item is crap.

kind of shameful to use a scam to fund a defence against a scammer..
.. it puts a bad taste in my mouth that defending against a scammer is done by using scams
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