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1421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [TRC] D34TH's Terracoin Pool [PPLNS] on: November 06, 2012, 01:49:09 AM
Sheez! Difficulty now over 400! Pool is now definitely needed. Will test tomorrow!

I was wondering why I was doing so well earlier in the day, and now the blocks have really slowed down for me.  Thought it was just bad luck there Tongue  

Looks like difficulty is now actually 1339
1422  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It's that time of year again... on: November 05, 2012, 10:05:35 PM
When we must "remember, remember."

Who's up for a movie-watching party with me?

That never even crossed my mind today.  Guess I've been paying more attention to the 6th of November this year, just being in the U.S. and all. 
1423  Other / Meta / Re: Pirate PMs on: November 05, 2012, 10:03:41 PM
I absolutely agree that the PMs can be released in redacted form.  My question remains what is the purpose of releasing them and how you eliminate bias form the redaction process.

I have no idea what it would achieve. In Theymos' shoes I probably wouldn't release them to anyone but authorities I'm obligated to give them to.



You can't get in trouble doing that.  That's always my recommended course of action. 
1424  Other / Meta / Re: Pirate PMs on: November 05, 2012, 08:03:42 PM
I'd be careful doing this.  Even though technologically savvy people know that PMs sent through a forum such as this are not private, PM is an acronym for "private message".  

Police with a search warrant = yes, without a doubt give them to them.  

Police with no search warrant = tell them to please go get a warrant, you'll help them with info they need to get a warrant, and then you'll turn it all over to them.  

SEC = I'd be nervous about unintended consequences giving them to the SEC.  Absolutely, make them get a subpoena from a court ordering you to turn those over.  

Random person = you're setting yourself up for trouble if you hand them over.  

  

1425  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's Count to 21 Million with Images on: November 05, 2012, 07:09:57 PM
1426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTB]TRC on: November 05, 2012, 07:03:12 PM
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This leads to a total amount of Terracoins in circulation of around 42 Millions

Someone  is a Douglas Adams fan  Cheesy

Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.

I had a McChicken for lunch.  Now I feel bad. 
1427  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will the Forkers of Terracoin please introduce themselves? on: November 05, 2012, 07:00:53 PM
Well, I don't really mean to "take it over" outright, at the moment, we don't even really know who the developers are- so I didn't really mean it literally. Just talk.

As for not being ASIC minable- I don't know if that's possible. Anything is ASIC minable. We could tweak it somehow so that current ASIC generations can't mine it, but a tweak that would be easy enough to apply to current FPGA's. Indeed- wouldn't it be interesting to tweak at regular intervals, small changes, nothing that would threaten the integrity of the chain, but that FPGA's could easily update to with firmware, and ASICs wouldn't be able to jump onto?

Yes that is an interesting notion, and I would speculate that is a prevention of asic migration due to the economics of cost/reward ... the only asic that could be achieved is a hybrid platform in which the tweaked part is abstracted out into software somehow or abstracted out into fpga hardware/firmware.... however if the tweaked component does not stay constant then even these possibilities would be constricted.

(Back on topic ish) In the end I'm not sure how far this coin alt could make it though given the general community response to how coins should be "fairly" launched.  Seeing how devs and announce dates never happened so usurping the chain might not be seen in a negative light...  would also be a good test bed to test implementations of a merge mineable ledger/ledger hybrid based system to prove that bit coin etc. can all be migrated relatively painlessly in order to deal with looming block chain bloat concerns.....

I agree that coins should be fairly launched, but even though this one didn't seem to have an official release statement, it was found and posted so early on here, that there couldn't possibly have been much of an opportunity to premine. I don't even think that many blocks have been found at this point, even after several of us have started mining it. 
1428  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: My PSU just had a catastrophic failure (i.e. exploded) on: November 03, 2012, 09:08:26 PM


So to the OP, no, I don't give a crap about your purchase, but your mentality is what bothers me.

In that case, I'm sorry my mentality bothers you.  I hate to be a bother.  Can't we be friends?   Wink

By the way, don't you think the appropriate time to chime in on a psu choice is when they specifically ask for it, in say a thread such as this one posted 2 1/2 weeks ago?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119151.0

Whereas after the psu has been purchased, at that point wouldn't it be best to just answer the question that was asked? 





1429  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: My PSU just had a catastrophic failure (i.e. exploded) on: November 03, 2012, 03:21:59 PM
Do PSUs all simply fail if driven too hard? If there some type of breaker or fuse that trips on some models if an over-current situation occurs?

OCP (overcurrent protection) is a common feature in PSUs, however it does not function as I think you are implying; it protects components from current spikes.

There are however also overload protectors, which are essentially fuses, that kick in to protect against draw that is too high on most PSUs.

This is why you rarely see an explosive failure in any quality PSU, even at high draws. If you buy a POS like the OP, well... then who knows what will happen. A quality PSU however can be run at it's full rating 24/7 365 days a year, and it won't bitch. Look for PSUs that are rated for their supply continuous rather than peak wattage.

As I mentioned before, I ran a 750W PSU, with ~875W coming from the wall (4 or 5 heavily overclocked 5870s), which was something like 5% above its rated capacity, and it kept ticking even after weeks of this until I swapped it out for a beefier supply.

I suppose the market needs people who refuse to listen to good advice though, or else all the cutrate vendors would go out of business.

I can see that my choice of PSU (upon the recommendation of multiple established miners on this forum), has clearly upset you.  If I had known you were going to be this distraught I might have asked if you wanted to chip in an extra $50 for me to get a single rail PSU.  So I deeply apologize for upsetting you so deeply.

(By the way, the PSU that assploded was a Corsair.)
1430  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: My PSU just had a catastrophic failure (i.e. exploded) on: November 03, 2012, 03:20:03 AM
Yeah, just send it back to newegg.

For 3x 5830 I would get 850W or more
....

lol..

I have 6 rigs running this exact PSU. and I am able to run 4 gpus on it no problem.

1 GPU on the one PCIe cable (1 cable has 2 pcie power connectors)
1 GPU on the other PCIe cable
1 GPU on the 2 molex cables, place molex to PCIe power adapter on the first molex adapter off the psu
1 GPU on the 2 SATA cables (you'll need SATA to PCIe adapters) Available at meritline. place SATA to PCIe power adapter on the first SATA adapter off the psu

evenly split the hard drives between the 4 molex/sata cables.

Done


And your name is very fitting.

Ta da!  This is the one thing I needed out of this entire thread and it took two pages to get there.  Thanks man +1  Same for gatorhex, +1
1431  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: My PSU just had a catastrophic failure (i.e. exploded) on: November 03, 2012, 12:26:01 AM
Here's what the label says:

+3.3V & +5V =170W
+3.3V&+5V&+12V=1020W
+12V1~ +12V6=960W (80A)
Max Power = 1050W
1432  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: My PSU just had a catastrophic failure (i.e. exploded) on: November 03, 2012, 12:18:26 AM
This is a Kingwin by the way.

Ok I figured it out.  

This PSU has 4 PCI-E 6pins.  

For the other 5830, should I split two 20A rails using molex to PCI-E adapters, or should I just use one of the 20A rails and split it twice?  

I've read the 5830 uses a maximum of 175 Watts.
1433  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: My PSU just had a catastrophic failure (i.e. exploded) on: November 02, 2012, 05:35:09 PM
So back to the thread question.  How do I know which rail is which?   Is there a guide on the back of the PSU?  I've looked at the manual, but really didn't see it, atleast not in a way I recognized. 

Can you post a picture of the PSU's label?

I haven't received it yet.  Supposed to be here this afternoon.  But here it is:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121070

And here is the manual:
http://kingwin.com/products/cate/power_supplies/manual/max_series/abt_850_1050MM_manual.pdf

1434  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: My PSU just had a catastrophic failure (i.e. exploded) on: November 02, 2012, 05:02:27 PM
So back to the thread question.  How do I know which rail is which?   Is there a guide on the back of the PSU?  I've looked at the manual, but really didn't see it, atleast not in a way I recognized. 
1435  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: My PSU just had a catastrophic failure (i.e. exploded) on: November 02, 2012, 04:55:38 AM
cards on this rail:
+12V4@35A, +12V5@35A

board on any of the 20A rail

alternatively if the board is on the 35A rail by default just put a 5830 on any single 20A rail

That makes sense.  I guess I'm missing a more fundamental question:  How do I know which rail is which?
1436  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: My PSU just had a catastrophic failure (i.e. exploded) on: November 02, 2012, 02:35:16 AM
I'm buying a Kill a Watt as we speak.  But nevertheless as far as load balancing, does anyone have any suggestions on how to read the specs on a PSU and then apply the knowledge obtained by reading those specs? 
1437  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: My PSU just had a catastrophic failure (i.e. exploded) on: November 02, 2012, 02:25:05 AM
I can only tell you a common sense approach. That is too much stuff. Get another power supply and use both. I does not have to be expensive or even new.

I just don't think that's the case.  A 1050W PSU should be able to handle this.  HDDs don't draw that much, and neither do 5830s.   
1438  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / My PSU just had a catastrophic failure (i.e. exploded) on: November 02, 2012, 01:53:19 AM
So now I figure I should learn the basics on how to properly balance the load on a PSU.  

I was obviously just working the 4 year old PSU too hard, and had connected the power cables all haphazardly not paying attention to amps, or rails, or any of that stuff.  

So now I come to you guys for an education.  In simplest terms, how do I figure out what to connect to what?  

Example:  Say I have a 1050W PSU that has this:  +3.3V@24A, +5V@30A, +12V1@20A, +12V2@20A, +12V3@20A, +12V4@35A, +12V5@35A, +12V6@20A, -12V@0.5A, +5VSB@5.0A

8 SATA connectors & 4 PCI-E connectors & then the regular assortment of molex.  

I need to connect 4 HDDs, 1 SSD, 1 DVD, MB, CPU, and 3 5830s.  

How should I connect this to safely load the PSU?

1439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Terracoin - not too low ? on: November 01, 2012, 02:44:50 AM
Where can you trade these terracoins?
1440  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's Count to 21 Million with Images on: October 31, 2012, 07:17:40 PM
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