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January 14, 2016, 08:49:19 PM
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Yes. It always matters whether a person is honest and trustworthy. How is this even a question?
 
However, that said, even a mostly honest and trustworthy person can have lapses in judgment, or make the wrong call thereby seeming untrustworthy. That's just part of humanity's natural condition.
 
Also, this question should not be assigned to a single politician if you ask me. Doing so presupposes that one politician's trustworthiness is more important than another's. We, the electorate, will want all of our candidates to demonstrate qualities of honesty and trustworthiness. In this way, the answer is really a resounding, "No!" It doesn't matter if Hillary Clinton is individually honest and trustworthy any more than it matters for any politician in the field.


In this thread the subject is harpy clinton and how honest she is, 24/7... Nothing else really.


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January 15, 2016, 06:36:41 PM
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State Dept jumped through “quite unusual” hoops to allow Hillary attorney to keep classified info







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    Newly released documents, obtained by The Daily Beast in coordination with the James Madison Project under the Freedom of Information Act, include legal correspondence and internal State Department communications about Clinton’s emails. Those documents provide new details about how officials tried to accommodate the former secretary of state and presidential candidate.

    In May 2015, a senior State Department official informed Clinton’s lawyer, David Kendall, that government reviewers had found at least one classified email among the messages she sent using a private account, which she used exclusively while in office. That email was only part of the “first tranche” of the review, a State Department employee noted at the time, leaving open the possibility that more classified information would be found, which it was.

    Patrick F. Kennedy, the undersecretary of state for management, who had worked under Clinton, asked Kendall to delete all electronic copies of the message in his possession. (Copies were sent to the State Department.)

    But Kendall resisted, saying he needed a full record of his own of the 55,000 pages of emails Clinton had sent, in order to respond to information requests from a House committee investigating the 2012 attacks on U.S. officials in Benghazi, Libya, and from the inspectors general of the State Department and the intelligence agencies.

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    There is no indication that Kennedy, who oversees physical and information security for the State Department, protested the private lawyer’s position or tried further to persuade Kendall to delete the classified email. The message had been forwarded to Clinton by one of her senior aides, Jacob Sullivan, in November 2012 and contained references to the attack in Benghazi two months earlier.

    Rather, within a few days, State Department employees were told to develop a system that would let Kendall keep the emails in a State Department-provided safe at his law firm in Washington, D.C., where he and a partner had access to them.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/15/how-the-state-department-caved-to-hillary-clinton-s-lawyer-on-classified-emails.html


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January 15, 2016, 06:48:19 PM
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Dem Panic: Hillary’s Catastrophic Collapse In One Chart












http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/15/2008-redux-dems-panic-as-hillary-loses-lead-to-socialist-bernie-sanders/


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January 15, 2016, 10:21:46 PM
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Don´t Wall St. and the war industry have a replacement option if Hillary keeps imploding. This is starting to look serious for them. What if the authorities are forced to indict her?

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January 16, 2016, 12:06:19 AM
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Don´t Wall St. and the war industry have a replacement option if Hillary keeps imploding. This is starting to look serious for them. What if the authorities are forced to indict her?


She won't fall alone. Bill and her daughter are deep in it. She won't have any scruples burning down the whole house with her. The house may have to trigger a natural heart attack for protection...

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January 16, 2016, 03:56:41 PM
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Don´t Wall St. and the war industry have a replacement option if Hillary keeps imploding. This is starting to look serious for them. What if the authorities are forced to indict her?


She won't fall alone. Bill and her daughter are deep in it. She won't have any scruples burning down the whole house with her. The house may have to trigger a natural heart attack for protection...



But she´s just such an awful sell. How the hell can they push this on the public? Granted, a sugar coated dog turd may not look all that unappetizing but it´s still a turd.

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January 16, 2016, 03:58:31 PM
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I emailed The Donald that line and got back 5000 bucks, not bad, huh?

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January 16, 2016, 04:07:54 PM
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I emailed The Donald that line and got back 5000 bucks, not bad, huh?


In bitcoins I hope?

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January 16, 2016, 05:04:40 PM
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I emailed The Donald that line and got back 5000 bucks, not bad, huh?


In bitcoins I hope?

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Wilikon, it´s just staggering. Where I live people seem to think that Hillary is the last hope of humanity or just about. I think it´s a disease and it causes people to totally disregard the past and only focus on the future. The disease of the many cures/disappears the awful record of the few. I´m sure that you notice the same symptoms where you are.

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January 16, 2016, 07:38:55 PM
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She should win the elections, but the ones held between lesbian inmates in a federal prison.
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January 17, 2016, 01:03:03 AM
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According to Sixpack Joe, a Texas source of mine, when Hillary is in the White House  they are going to re-purpose the Washington Monument as the Clinton Monument as soon as they can find enough brown paint and a big enough cigar band.

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Extraterrestrial Lobbyist Explains Hillary Clinton’s Controversial UFO Statements

By Robin Seemangal • 01/16/16 2:51pm



Hillary Clinton with Laurance Rockefeller at the JY Ranch, Jackson Hole, WY, August 21, 1995. Clinton is carrying the book Are We Alone: Philosophical Implications of the Discovery of Extraterrestrial Life by Paul Davies. (Photo: National Archives)

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton recently made unusual comments regarding the existence of extraterrestrials during an editorial board meeting with New Hampshire’s the Conway Daily Sun. “Yes, I’m going to get to the bottom of it” said Clinton when questioned on the subject by reporter Daymond Steer.“I think we may have been visited already. We don’t know for sure.”

Clinton also indicated that her campaign chairman John Podesta had great interest in the UFO phenomenon. “He has made me personally pledge we are going to get the information out,” said Clinton. “One way or another. Maybe we could have, like, a task force to go to Area 51.”

Podesta, who served as Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton and advisor to President Barack Obama, has a spoken publicly about the issue in the past. “It’s time to open the books on questions that have remained in the dark, on the question of government investigations of UFOs. It’s time to find out what the truth really is that’s out there,” said Podesta during a news conference at the National Press Club in 2002. “We ought to do it, really, because it’s right, because the American people, quite frankly, can handle the truth, and we ought to do it because it’s the law.”

To get a sense of the history behind Clinton’s statements, the Observer spoke to DC-based extraterrestrial lobbyist and head of the Paradigm Research Group (PRG), Stephen Bassett, who we interviewed last September and who was recently profiled in the Washington Post.

What was your initial reaction to Hillary Clinton’s remarks to the Conway Daily Sun?

Throughout 2007, PRG worked to bring the Rockefeller Initiative and the extraterrestrial presence issue into the presidential campaign. This effort failed to draw out Senator Clinton, but may have helped to generate questions asked at the October 30 Democratic primary debate in Philadelphia of Congressman Kucinich, Senator Obama, and Governor Richardson.

Eight years later, Secretary Clinton’s remarks in New Hampshire represent a breakthrough moment in American political history. Twenty-three years after her husband’s administration was engaged by Laurance Rockefeller to release all UFO documents in government files and grant amnesty to government witnesses, Secretary Clinton has finally spoken to the extraterrestrial presence issue.

Daymond Steer’s questions marked an important milestone, but it is only the beginning of the questions that need to be asked and will be asked of Secretary Clinton and all the presidential candidates.

Is there a chance these comments were meant as a joke?

The nature of the now-institutionalized truth embargo on the extraterrestrial presence issue is such, that however serious you might be, you must smile when you speak to the subject.

Anyone with an ounce of political sense would understand that no chairman of the leading candidate (John Podesta) and no former president and spouse of that candidate (President Clinton), during a campaign that will ultimately spend as much as $2 billion dollars of donated money, is going to publicly speak to the UFO/extraterrestrial phenomena issue—that is, unless they have to. If they smile and dance a bit in the process, that is to be expected.

Were you pleased with how the media picked up the story?

The media response to the Daily Sun story has been extensive. A review of various Google search listings indicates coverage by as many as 250 foreign language venues, 200 local U.S. radio/television stations and over 100 English language venues. It is notable, however, the New York Times, Washington Post and Los Angeles Times did cover this story, and the Drudge Report did not link to it. PRG found this to be both remarkable and disappointing.

What is your ideal scenario for the media’s approach to the truth embargo and disclosure?

Simple. More reporters, including some from top tier political media, ask Secretary Clinton direct questions about the Rockefeller Initiative and her involvement therein. She provides serious answers, hopefully without smile or smirk. This triggers more questions to President Clinton, John Podesta, Governor Bill Richardson, Secretary Leon Panetta, Mack McLarty and Webster Hubbell. These gentlemen give truthful and serious responses. This triggers another round of questions directed to the Pentagon, CIA and the U.S. Air Force along with questions to the private principals to the Rockefeller Initiative.

What about responses from other Presidential candidates?

There has been no response, which raises a most interesting question. Since 1993, the Republican Party and many conservative media venues have been well aware of the Clinton team’s connection to the UFO/ET issue. Despite intense partisan hatred for the Clintons, the Republican candidates and conservative media have never used that connection to gain political advantage.

If the extraterrestrial presence issue was completely without merit, it is inconceivable this would be the case. This would lead one to conclude the very truth of the matter prevents such partisan attacks.

Do you think Hillary Clinton’s history regarding the Rockefeller Initiative factored into her statement?

Of course it did. It is the primary reason she is commenting at all. The same goes for John Podesta and President Clinton.

How does Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta tie into all this?

It is PRG’s view, John Podesta is the central figure in the unfolding events leading to a Disclosure event under a Democratic president. He is the only Rockefeller Initiative principal who has served President Clinton (advisor, Chief of Staff), President Obama (transition chairman, advisor) and Secretary Clinton (advisor, campaign chairman).

In 2002 and 2003 Mr. Podesta called for the release of UFO documents in government files. In 2010 he reiterated this theme in a foreword to the book UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record by Leslie Kean. He was featured in the 2011 documentary Secret Access: UFOs on the Record. In 2015 Mr. Podesta also issued provocative twitter messages well covered by national and international media.

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Are there any other figures from the Clinton administration or Hillary Clinton’s campaign that were involved with the Rockefeller Initiative?

PRG possesses documents confirming President Clinton, Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, Webster Hubbell, the late Dr. John Gibbons and the late Congressman Steven Schiff were directly involved. PRG is also quite certain Chiefs of Staff Leon Panetta and Mack McLarty, Secretary Bill Richardson and Vice President Al Gore were aware of the Rockefeller Initiative. In addition, there were 16 private citizens involved, 12 of which are still living. 

Why has it taken so long for this issue to be brought into an election?

The government imposed truth embargo conceived between 1947 and 1953 that remains in effect to this day, although much weakened, has been very successful. The only president to have brought the issue up during his campaign was Jimmy Carter in 1976. I was the first balloted congressional candidate to speak to the issue in 2002. Dr. Joseph Buchman was the second balloted congressional candidate to do so in 2008.

There is good analogy for this. For 51 years the U.S. Government imposed an embargo on the nation of Cuba. Most Americans knew there was an island south of the Florida keys called Cuba; they just couldn’t go there. Now they can. All of which is to say President Obama has one more embargo to end before he leaves office.

Would you say Hillary Clinton is the best candidate to ensure the full disclosure of extraterrestrial activity on Earth?

Yes, due to the historical connection to the issue.

In a previous interview with the Observer, you said “Barack Obama will be the Disclosure President.” Do you still believe that?

Yes. The American people should not have to wait one more day for the truth embargo to end. No one knows who will be the next president or what they will do when they enter the White House. Therefore, PRG seeks the embargoes end now, meaning Barack Obama will be the Disclosure president.

What are you and your organization doing now to continue this fight for disclosure?

Not a fight—an advocacy process. One should not pick fights with nuclear powers. PRG will continue to inform the political media and the U.S Congress regarding the Rockefeller Initiative, the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure and the need for new, comprehensive congressional hearings. PRG will put particular emphasis on Secretary Clinton and the other presidential candidates. PRG is also seeking opportunities to address the subject on any and all network and cable news talk shows.

Robin Seemangal focuses on NASA and advocacy for space exploration. He was born and raised in Brooklyn, where he currently resides. Find him on Instagram for more space-related content: @not_gatsby

http://observer.com/2016/01/extraterrestrial-lobbyist-explains-hillary-clintons-controversial-ufo-statements/

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January 17, 2016, 01:18:30 AM
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Podesta, who served as Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton and advisor to President Barack Obama, has a spoken publicly about the issue in the past. “It’s time to open the books on questions that have remained in the dark, on the question of government investigations of UFOs. It’s time to find out what the truth really is that’s out there,” said Podesta during a news conference at the National Press Club in 2002. “We ought to do it, really, because it’s right, because the American people, quite frankly, can handle the truth, and we ought to do it because it’s the law.”

Yeah, it´ll still be time long after this guy stops digging for the truth.

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January 17, 2016, 01:25:53 AM
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I don't follow US politics much...
But I wouldn't trust someone who as foreign minister used their own personal email for the countries business.  Seems like a major lapse in judgement.

That being said, she's certainly seems more trustworthy than old Trump!  The man is a walking conflict of interest.

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January 17, 2016, 04:39:03 AM
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I emailed The Donald that line and got back 5000 bucks, not bad, huh?


In bitcoins I hope?

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Wilikon, it´s just staggering. Where I live people seem to think that Hillary is the last hope of humanity or just about. I think it´s a disease and it causes people to totally disregard the past and only focus on the future. The disease of the many cures/disappears the awful record of the few. I´m sure that you notice the same symptoms where you are.


Yep.



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January 17, 2016, 09:24:32 AM
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Americans' views on Hillary Clinton unaffected by Bill, poll finds

Majorities of both Democrats and Republicans say former president is not a factor in their opinion on his wife’s candidacy

Bill Clinton may be neither the “secret weapon” that Hillary Clinton needs in the US presidential race nor the albatross that Republican candidate Donald Trump expects.

The former president simply is not wielding that kind of influence – good or bad – over voters so far this year, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll. A majority of Americans, including 73% of Democrats and 52% of Republicans, said Bill Clinton does not factor into their opinion of Hillary for president.

The poll, conducted from 7 to 13 January, found that 12% of Americans were more likely to vote for Hillary, the former secretary of state, because of her marriage to Bill. Among Democrats, less than half said Bill Clinton should be more prominent in his wife’s campaign, and less than half felt that his presence in the race would boost her chances of winning.

Bill Clinton, widely credited for helping Barack Obama win a second term in 2012, has become much more active on the campaign trail this month, especially in New Hampshire, where Hillary Clinton trails Bernie Sanders in several recent polls.

Read more : http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/16/bill-hillary-clinton-democrats-republicans
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January 17, 2016, 03:24:56 PM
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Joe Sixpack says: Ole slick Willie has now taken on an unreal glow and now looks more and more like his statue in Pristina, Kosovo. The statue looks a little more life-like though at this point.


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January 17, 2016, 03:31:29 PM
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Awfully sorry, wrong image...

More below, Hillary listening to some fellow nutcase going on about the other clinton fruitcake.




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January 17, 2016, 03:33:18 PM
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Americans' views on Hillary Clinton unaffected by Bill, poll finds

Majorities of both Democrats and Republicans say former president is not a factor in their opinion on his wife’s candidacy

Bill Clinton may be neither the “secret weapon” that Hillary Clinton needs in the US presidential race nor the albatross that Republican candidate Donald Trump expects.

The former president simply is not wielding that kind of influence – good or bad – over voters so far this year, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll. A majority of Americans, including 73% of Democrats and 52% of Republicans, said Bill Clinton does not factor into their opinion of Hillary for president.

The poll, conducted from 7 to 13 January, found that 12% of Americans were more likely to vote for Hillary, the former secretary of state, because of her marriage to Bill. Among Democrats, less than half said Bill Clinton should be more prominent in his wife’s campaign, and less than half felt that his presence in the race would boost her chances of winning.

Bill Clinton, widely credited for helping Barack Obama win a second term in 2012, has become much more active on the campaign trail this month, especially in New Hampshire, where Hillary Clinton trails Bernie Sanders in several recent polls.

Read more : http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/16/bill-hillary-clinton-democrats-republicans



VIDEO: Bill Clinton’s hand trembles at Iowa rally — blames old age


Does Bill Clinton have Parkinson’s disease?

While campaigning in Iowa Saturday to rescue Hillary’s floundering presidential campaign, the former president’s hand could be seen trembling while he was making a point.

As he was explaining his wife’s rationale for invoking 9/11 to defend her ties to Wall Street, Clinton said, “She was making the point that the people devastated on 9/11 were people to her, not categories.”

Watch his left hand at the :30 mark:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6vMwUSkvQM



In 2013, Clinton denied having Parkinson’s.

“I have a condition that sometimes you get with aging,” Clinton said at the time, the Huffington Post reported. “You may have noticed it; my hand has a little tremor when I’m tired and a lot of people do when they’re older.”

“The first time it happened, I had to go get myself checked to make sure I didn’t have Parkinson’s [disease],” he said.

He said his doctor claimed he didn’t though Clinton didn’t say what condition he has.


http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-bill-clintons-hand-trembles-at-iowa-rally-blames-old-age/


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January 17, 2016, 03:53:04 PM
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I believe Hillary has stayed with Bill for one reason. He is her ticket to fame and into White House Without Bill, she really would not have had a public national career.

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