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November 21, 2015, 12:26:45 AM
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-state-of-emergency-declared-for-three-months-allowing-authorities-to-shut-down-websites-and-a6740886.html

Police in France have been given huge new powers including the ability to put people under house arrest without trial and to block websites.

France's parliament has extended the country's state of emergency for three months, allowing authorities to get access to huge powers that date back to 1955.

The state of emergency was declared on Saturday, just after attacks that left 129 people dead.

Such a decision gives the police powers including the ability to keep people in their homes without trial, searching the homes of people without a warrant from a judge, and the power to block any website that is deemed a problem.

Rights groups have worried that the decision could become permanent, allowing for the extension of authorities' powers into normal life. But the French government said that such powers were necessary.

"This is the fast response of a democracy faced with barbarism. This is the effective legal response in the face of an ideology of chaos," Prime Minister Emmanuel Valls told parliament.

Valls said the measures were "modern and effective tools to fight the terrorist threat".

Under the state of emergency, police have the power to conduct searches without getting judicial warrants, though they cannot search the homes and offices of parliamentarians, journalists or lawyers.

The new measures mean anyone suspected of posing a threat to security can be placed under house arrest for 12 hours a day to restrict their movement. Even if the house arrest is lifted, suspects can be prevented from meeting others deemed a threat.

Electronic tagging can also be used to ensure suspects under house arrest who are particularly dangerous remain confined.

The authorities have the power to block Internet sites deemed to incite or advocate "acts of terrorism", public demonstrations are banned and groups inciting acts that could seriously affect public order can be dissolved.

Rights campaign group Amnesty International said the emergency measures must not become permanent fixtures.

This is the shock doctrine in effect.
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November 21, 2015, 02:40:01 AM
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This is the shock doctrine in effect.

But we still have social media, with which we can stop tyrrany.

However it is cracked down upon. I`d not be surprized if they would ban free speech, and censor everybody politically.

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rpietila (Risto),

1. Theoretically the governments can not conquer cryptography. What ever they require over the wire, can in theory be countered with steganography because even governments don't have asymmetric computing resources sufficient to overcome the probabilities of obfuscation afforded by math. (doubt they can monopolize all sources of hardware so I think they can only hope to control the routers on the network) Btw, did you see my prior post today about the failure of Cryptonote anonymity as a paradigm?

2. Rather than identify any one sector as the cause of the lurch towards the NWO clusterfuck, admit it is the "number of man" 666[1]. The implicit nature of man is the beast. Thus pointing fingers towards "globalists", "large scale governance", "alignment of multi-national corporations with globalism" is pointless. The pointed fact is the nature of man is on auto-pilot and will always be (power begets power and a power vacuum begets the powerful). The globalists are powerless to escape the hamster wheel, because the current economic system demands that they do what they do. I have promulgated the theory that the Knowledge Age changes the fundamental economics, which should reset the world after the NWO clusterfuck has killed off all those who partake the 666 (i.e. who don't turn away from the nature of man in this context). Note that Europe (and the rest of the world) embraced humanism (that man is greater than and can control the serendipity of nature, on social issues, environmentalism, climate, and even on the business cycle as Armstrong eloquently points out) and thus is receiving its clusterfuck as a reward. That so many of humanity willingly turn away from themselves being the root cause of the clusterfuck by blaming it on the invented false flag known as "Big T" (for terrorism) is indicative of this process of the nature of man (the denial of the fact that man is not superior to nature).

3. Risto please lose your delusion that Russia is a benevolent actor in this. Russia is playing its role in the clusterfuck, such as heightening the excuse that the Muslims could do terrorism in Europe. Remember Putin was/is the head of Russia secret service, then we know that ISIS means "Israel's Secret Intelligence Service" and see below for the CIA's involvement.


[1] Coincidentally 666nm is the approximate wavelength of "blood red".


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Carving Up the Middle East
Posted on November 17, 2015 by Martin Armstrong

QUESTION: Why did ISIS target France rather than Germany? Someone said it was France who created Syria. Is that really true?

ANSWER: Germany is not actually a target in this chess game. It is one reason we selected Berlin for our conference, even compared to London, since we had Panic Cycles in November. Germany has less than 62,000 in its army and being in the army in Germany was perhaps worse than a tax collector. The joke was that the German army does not shoot. Germany is not in the view of ISIS as is France, Britain, and the USA. Germany may be the biggest economy in Europe, but the people blamed their own military for the nation’s suffering, as did Japan.

Indeed, the Middle East as we know it today emerged from decisions made by the Allies during and after World War I. Britain and France took it upon themselves to transform what had been provinces of the old Ottoman Empire into the modern states we have come to know. This has created an international tinderbox that remains at the core of the current conflicts and politics in the Middle East.

The partitioning of the Middle East into the Arab provinces of the Ottoman Empire was set under the terms of a secret Sykes-Picot Agreement of April-May 1916. The agreement gave Mesopotamia (Iraq), the Gulf, and the regions bordering Palestine to Britain, while Syria and most of the eastern part of the region went to France.

The Cairo Conference was a meeting of Britain’s Middle East experts. The conference began formally on the morning of Saturday, March 12, 1921. The conference approved a plan for giving control over two large pieces of the former Turkish territories that Britain controlled to princes in the Hashemite family. It was agreed that Prince Feisal, with whom T.E. Lawrence had worked during and after World War I, would become king of a new country created from the Turkish Province of Mesopotamia; it would be called Iraq. His brother, Prince Abdullah, would rule a country made up of Palestine west of the Jordan River: Transjordan (now Jordan).

Britain’s interest in the provinces focused on safeguarding the trade route to India to ensure cheap and accessible oil for Britain’s requirements. Therefore, maintaining the balance of power in the Mediterranean was essential to its economic advantage.

France hoped to maintain its centuries-old ties with the Syrian Catholics. In so doing, France looked to establish a strategic and economic base in the eastern Mediterranean. It was not oil then, but maintaining a cheap supply of cotton and silk, that prevented Arab nationalism from destabilizing France’s North African empire. Therefore, France held Syria in the partition process. That is coming back to haunt them to this day.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/39305

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Siege of Paris Is the Same Group as the Charlie Hebdo Attack

The siege of Paris on November 13, 2015, appears to be the same group inside France. The reason we say this is because they are acting in a cyclical manner and each group will conform to a unique cycle. President Hollande went on national TV to announce a state of emergency for the first time in France since 2005. This measure enables the authorities to close public places and impose curfews and restrictions on the movement of traffic and people.

A review of the entire refugee crisis in Europe is underway with many forming the opinion that this has been an invasion. The likelihood of this attack actually escalating the war in the Middle East is extremely high. There is an external influence, no doubt.

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http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/39316

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It Is Time to Knock off the Bullshit About Surveillance for Terrorism

The worldwide collection of phone calls, emails, and text messages is all about taxes – NOT terrorism. Despite this power, these surveillance methods have failed to prevent even one terrorist act. There was the case of the Boston Bombers, two kids using cell phones, who they failed to catch. Then there was the case when two guys dressed up as women and attacked the NSA itself. They didn’t know about that. Then Charlie Hebdo, that too was a surprise. Now we have an all-out assault on civilians in Paris carried out by three suicide squads, and again, they were clueless. This surveillance does not work because they are only monitoring the people for taxes. Otherwise, they would not be storing everything forever.

Ministry for State Security (Stasi) smelling jars _ From the Vault

Let’s get honest here. The only other intelligence agency to collect evidence on everyone was the notorious Stasi of East Germany. When the wall came down, the extent of the secret police operations targeted against their own people was mind-blowing. What surfaced was their “smelling jars” collection. Yes, the Stasi used odor recognition to keep tabs on anyone they suspected. The Stasi often collected the samples covertly by breaking into homes to stealing a suspects’ used underwear. They then kept them in jars in case they turned up missing to hunt them down.

A friend grew up behind the wall. When it fell, his father obtained the Stasi file on him, just as the NSA now builds files on everyone. In that file, he read that all his friends were reporting him to the Stasi. He no longer retains any friends for his trust in humanity was destroyed.

Come 2017, the G20 will being sharing information on everyone purely for taxes. Any credit, account, or transaction will be reported to your home country. This is all about TAXES, not about truly stopping terrorism. On that score, they have a near perfect record of failure because collecting everything means that there is no possible way to ascertain that a terrorist attack will take place tomorrow. The terrorists can freely use their cell phones because collecting every phone call becomes impossible to sift through in a timely manner.

They will use this incident for even more power. Nonetheless, because everyone now knows that governments collect everything, terrorists would obviously use other forms of messages. Genghis Khan tattooed messages on the heads of messengers and their hair would cover the message up. The Romans established a network of signal towers where messages were rapidly sent over hundreds of miles from one tower to the next.

One of the oldest methods of communication is the pigeon post. As a method of communication, it dates back to the ancient Persians who trained birds. The Mughals of central Asia who occupied a large part of India on through into Afghanistan, used pigeons as messengers. Julius Caesar adopted pigeons as messengers from the Persians during his conquest of Gaul (France). The Greeks also used pigeons to convey the names of the victors at the Olympic games to their various cities.

The Romans also employed a Pony Express where relays would carry messages as well as communications between private people. Letters between wives of high-ranking soldiers have survived, confirming communications were taking place. Indeed, one could actually get a letter from England to Rome in ten days or less. Low ranking soldiers were not allowed to marry and were not allowed to have connections locally. This provided two functions. First, the obvious need to transfer soldiers without complications, but more importantly, no local ties ensured that soldiers would not hesitate to move against citizens in the case of a revolt.

The British, Scottish, and Irish all constructed coastal signal towers like the Romans to warn of the threat of a Napoleonic invasion. Napoleon was a brilliant strategist who created the semaphore telegraph or optical telegraph. The Napoleonic semaphore signal system conveyed information by means of visual signals. It laid the groundwork for our modern communications. Napoleon constructed towers with pivoting shutters. Information was encoded by the position of the mechanical elements.

Perhaps the most famous use of pigeon was the advance news of the British victory at Waterloo of June 19, 1815, used by the Rothschilds. It is true that they too used pigeons, but there is no conclusive evidence that pigeon messengers were the method of communication that gave them a warning two days in advance.

Now that everyone knows that the NSA and every other intelligence agency are collecting everything, those really engaged in terrorism will never use such means. There are many ways around this and training birds began in Persia (Iran). Let’s knock off the bullshit and stop the Stasi tactic of building files on everyone. If they focus solely on the targets to protect society, we just might stop something like this from happening.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/39274

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G20 Agrees to Share ALL Information on Everyone Starting in 2017
Posted on November 13, 2015 by Martin Armstrong


The Bundestag in Germany has unanimously adopted the automatic exchange of financial data with all other states. Banks will be obliged to report information on credit, interest, and dividends from 2017 to the authorities. You can no longer get a credit card outside of the country. You live to pay taxes. Nobody wants to deal with the nightmare of keeping track of everyone. The costs have already exceeded $200 billion and are rising within the private sector so that these politicians can increase taxes on everything.

Below realize that when Armstrong implicated the oil pipeline he was not seeing the big picture of how the "nature of mankind" is moving into the NWO clusterfuck. The Puritans were yet another example of man thinking he is greater than nature....read below...

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/21995

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Sunni v Shiite Civil War in Islam – Drawing The World Into Another Crusade – Precise with War Cycle
Posted on September 24, 2014 by Martin Armstrong

The entire Benghazi incident was not what it seems. Based upon information and belief, Ambassador Sevens was initially providing arms to Libyan rebels to overthrow Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, who was killed by the U.S. funded rebels on October 20, 2011 during the Battle of Sirte. President Obama signed a secret order authorizing covert U.S. government support for rebel forces seeking to oust Gaddafi, reported Reuters on March 20, 2011. Almost a year after the fall of Gaddafi, on Sept. 11 and 12, 2012, a U.S. diplomatic compound and CIA annex in the Libyan city of Benghazi were attacked, killing four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens who served there between June 2012 to September 12, 2012, reported the Washington Post. However, Stevens had served in Libya twice previously: as the Deputy Chief of Mission (from 2007 to 2009) and as Special Representative to the National Transitional Council (from March 2011 to November 2011) during the Libyan revolution. He arrived in Tripoli in May 2012 as the U.S. Ambassador to Libya.

According to reliable sources, Stevens was then providing arms to Libyan rebels to overthrow Gaddafi via the CIA. On September 3rd, 2013, the Telegraph in London reported that during a meeting at the White House, the president assured Senator John McCain that after months of delay the US was meeting its commitment to back moderate elements of the opposition. Steven was appointed to the National Transitional Council in March 2011 BEFORE Gaddafi was killed in October 2011. Obviously, Stevens was in the middle of the CIA operation.

Recently declassified documents, General Ham knew within minutes that our Benghazi consulate was not only under attack, but that it was a terrorist attack. General Ham immediately informed General Dempsey, the two of them immediately informed Secretary Panetta, who immediately met with President Obama. Therefore, within an hour, President Obama KNEW the ambassador and his staff were under attack by a well-armed terrorist group. He then ordered that NO ASSISTANCE be provided to the consulate staff, four of whom were killed.

The mystery is that help stood near by. Why no help? Was this because the arms supply had shifted from Libya to Syria and this was pay-back for CIA shenanigans? Weeks following the incident, Obama and many of his aides (including then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and then U.N. Ambassador/now National Security Adviser Susan Rice) REPEATEDLY told the public the violence had been the result of a protest over a YouTube video gone awry. Obama and Clinton told the victims’ families that they had no idea it was a terror attack or that the consulate was in serious danger.

After Obama’s re-election campaign was over, only then did evidence emerge that the video story was a cover-up and the Obama administration then apologized for having knowingly and deliberately LIED to American voters at a sensitive time to win the campaign. While being questioned about this, Hillary Clinton in her tactless response: “What DIFFERENCE does it make?”

The difference is that the U.S. funded elements of ISIS and this was a political move with an objective to help Saudi Arabia (Sunni) get a pipeline through Syria to compete with Russia for the European market. What is clear, is that ISIS is well-funded and is intent upon creating war with Christianity – a very radical sect of Islam that is as extreme as the Puritans were in England. Their radical goal is to inspire all Muslims to join their cause around the world. The Puritans outlawed kissing your wife in public, all sports because it led to cursing, plays because acting was a lie, and even Christmas with spies peeking in your windows to ensure you were not celebrating. When they arrive in America as the “Pilgrims” they slaughtered 600 Indians because their women were bare-breasted and that offended God. The Puritans also beheaded King Charles I before the French Revolution. So there are extremes in all religions and Islam as a whole will join these radicals for the majority of Sunni do not share their ideas.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/14205

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Syria – Benghazi Connection
Posted on September 4, 2013 by Martin Armstrong

What is taking place in Syria is far more complicated than most people suspect. As with everything, there is the story, and then there is the truth lurking behind the story. The region has been flooded with weapons supplied to rebels initially in Libya that have flowed to Syria, Mali, and even back to the streets in the USA. Nothing but nothing is what it appears. There is way too much bullshit for we are far beyond a shovel – we now need full blown mining equipment to get to the truth about anything.

John Christopher Stevens (1960–September 12, 2012) was the American diplomat and lawyer who served as the U.S. Ambassador to Libya from June 2012 until his murder on September 12, 2012. The entire Benghazi incident is far deeper than most people would ever dream. True, the Obama administration is covering up the incident as 22 CIA agents were present at the time.

One source has reported that the CIA has been subjecting operatives working in Libya to frequent polygraph tests to make sure they are not leaking information about Benghazi. Why? What is lurking in the shadows? The real reasons why and the connection to Syria today are discussed behind-the-curtain – not in the open.

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November 21, 2015, 11:46:24 AM
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Hmm... I just found out about this man here. He's a former US Marine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltV-zdKdpDA

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November 21, 2015, 11:52:20 AM
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This is the shock doctrine in effect.

But we still have social media, with which we can stop tyrrany.

However it is cracked down upon. I`d not be surprized if they would ban free speech, and censor everybody politically.

No, social media cannot be used to stop tyranny. It may be a burden to them, but it does not have the power to stop. It has centralized control and a communist regime could simply remove all messages they don't like or arrest the people easily because of lack of anonymity.

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November 21, 2015, 11:54:38 AM
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November 21, 2015, 12:25:52 PM
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Hmm... I just found out about this man here. He's a former US Marine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltV-zdKdpDA

Much of what he is saying is correct. The Pentagon / DoD had a report leaked from 2012 that accepted that any Sunni terrorist group may attempt to establish themselves in eastern Syria and that Saudi / Qatari / Turkish / US backers believed this would assist in destabilising Assad, which is the main goal. And after turning two secular regimes into failed states, they are now going for three. Next up of course is Iran itself.

https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-west-saw-isis-as-strategic-asset-b99ad7a29092#.ka6ifvkuw

However, complicity is not the reason they haven't attacked Israel. On a geopolitical level I would think that the Israeli's would prefer to keep the secular Assad regime in control, although stopping the flow into hezbollah from Iran via Syria may override this. But, ISIS, the frankenstein's monster of militant groups, is following the strictest version of the end of days and to stray from it is sinful, as they state in their own propaganda. So first they deal with the Shia (whom they see as apostates), then they will deal with Sunni's from Saudi who are disbelievers, then attempt to take Turkey (before being beaten back into Syria). All the while holy war overseas is permitted to incite hatred of muslims so they will return to the caliphate. Those who flee the caliphate for Europe are seems as disbelievers.

While I see all these endless foreign policy blunders are central to the problems in the Middle East, the cat is out of the proverbial bag. ISIS is different to al qaeda in that getting rid of the western powers from the middle east is not a big part of their ideology. They've let this baby monster bloom and not foreseen the consequences. Now we all have to deal with it. And sickeningly, western powers use the terrorism and deaths to pass further restrictive laws they'd never get passed without atrocities; the shock doctrine in effect.
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November 21, 2015, 12:31:54 PM
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Hmm... I just found out about this man here. He's a former US Marine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltV-zdKdpDA

Much of what he is saying is correct. The Pentagon / DoD had a report leaked from 2012 that accepted that any Sunni terrorist group may attempt to establish themselves in eastern Syria and that Saudi / Qatari / Turkish / US backers believed this would assist in destabilising Assad, which is the main goal. And after turning two secular regimes into failed states, they are now going for three. Next up of course is Iran itself.

https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-west-saw-isis-as-strategic-asset-b99ad7a29092#.ka6ifvkuw

However, complicity is not the reason they haven't attacked Israel. On a geopolitical level I would think that the Israeli's would prefer to keep the secular Assad regime in control, although stopping the flow into hezbollah from Iran via Syria may override this. But, ISIS, the frankenstein's monster of militant groups, is following the strictest version of the end of days and to stray from it is sinful, as they state in their own propaganda. So first they deal with the Shia (whom they see as apostates), then they will deal with Sunni's from Saudi who are disbelievers, then attempt to take Turkey (before being beaten back into Syria). All the while holy war overseas is permitted to incite hatred of muslims so they will return to the caliphate. Those who flee the caliphate for Europe are seems as disbelievers.

While I see all these endless foreign policy blunders are central to the problems in the Middle East, the cat is out of the proverbial bag. ISIS is different to al qaeda in that getting rid of the western powers from the middle east is not a big part of their ideology. They've let this baby monster bloom and not foreseen the consequences. Now we all have to deal with it. And sickeningly, western powers use the terrorism and deaths to pass further restrictive laws they'd never get passed without atrocities; the shock doctrine in effect.

Do not forget the long debate I had upthread where I explained with strong evidence that the Israel's Mussod was the likely perpetrator of 9/11.

Also re-read my prior post as I added several relevant blog posts from Armstrong to our information set.

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November 21, 2015, 12:46:53 PM
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Note that Europe (and the rest of the world) embraced humanism

Unless at least some EU countries can make Iceland-style revolution happen in 2 months, including driving the occupation force away, I will have to agree with you that the people here are clueless, and they have learned nothing from the tragedy of 9/11 and the loss of the liberties in the U.S.

Please re-read my long post again. And listen to the linked YouTube. Russia is not benevolent. The people-at-large are embracing humanism (even the Puritans did, it is a repeating aspect of human nature). Period.

Rather than embracing humanism by trying to determine which of men are good and which are evil, which is just evil humanism...

Work for the only certain truth. The only certain truth is that we are not in control. Embrace serendipity. Learn to be not vested in a perspective. Take what nature gives and synergize with it to benefit the most people. This is life. We are not in control. All those "normal people" (who think they are rational because of their misapplication of the notion of science and Occam's razor) who wish terrorism is real so they don't have to admit that the people (as in ourselves) have created (vested in) a clusterfuck of promises to themselves (ourselves) are just in denial and will perish for it.

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I really don't want to get off on philosophical tangents again, but at least let me repeat the summary I made to my gf about this matter.

Essentially man gets bound up in wanting to point a finger between good and evil, so as to protect one's own vested interests. Men want to think they've accomplished something and thus for example the desire to blame terrorists rather than just admit that all governance at any level is corrupt. And the larger the government, the more power and the more corrupt. Period.

The Lord said this in 1 Samuel 8 according to the Bible (believe in a God or not, my point is only that the principle is contained therein).

So Risto, I think you've still got to learn to lose your European humanism (the concept that some group is good and another is the evil invader) and join use tribal folks here in the Philippines (or my American Cherokee ancestors) who seemed to better appreciate that we only own our moments and memories and not the land nor the future.

The EU (and Euro) was created as grand idealism of the triumph over man over nature (to end wars, etc). Thus its clusterfuck was assured from the start and the starry-eyed culpability of the population-at-large is undeniable.

So I told my gf, don't worry about any of it. Just live your life for each day and do the best you can. We are not in control. I contrasted how a decade ago the challenge for filipinos was no hope of escaping severe poverty and now there are opportunities to work abroad, but this comes with new opportunities including a globalist world that is headed towards some clusterfuck scenarios, yet there will be opportunities. So carpe diem!

For myself, I need to accept I am not in control and anything I do is fleeting because the future of nature must be freedom (degrees-of-freedom). Easier to say than do.

Edit: The most fundamental law of science (according to Einstein), the Second Law of Thermodynamics requires that the overall trend of the universe it towards maximum entropy (i.e. disorder). Man has a bias to prefer order over disorder, where disorder means more diversely distributed probabilities for outcomes. Thus the assumptions that large governments are not corrupt and that ubiquitous Big T is real and not a false flag is counter to the notion that larger things are inherently too ordered and a disordered explanation is more probable, i.e. the total misapplication of Occam's Razor by Evildave up thread. One might retort by claiming that since a large government is too ordered, then it is more probably a government couldn't organize such things, but the fact is that you see the people choosing the ordered explanation from the government, thus the Coasian barrier sustains the humanism and misapplication of Occam's Razor until it fails in a Waterfall effect as the truth and disorder (the Minsky Moment) punches through the inertial barrier.

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November 21, 2015, 04:23:23 PM
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This is the shock doctrine in effect.

But we still have social media, with which we can stop tyrrany.

However it is cracked down upon. I`d not be surprized if they would ban free speech, and censor everybody politically.

No, social media cannot be used to stop tyranny. It may be a burden to them, but it does not have the power to stop. It has centralized control and a communist regime could simply remove all messages they don't like or arrest the people easily because of lack of anonymity.



Well then we are doomed. Next step for France: Gestapo and Gulags.

Tyrrany is predictable.

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Culture is stronger than many things. Have a look at Russia: the Emperor was murdered by the jews, who subsequently killed all the rest of the intelligentsia (people who know how to and why to read), and had 1-2 other wholesale murder rounds with more murder and terror than any other country including the U.S. and Red China, trying to uproot the Russian culture, and then the humiliation of the 1990s with a drunk western puppet in power, now after as little as 10 years, Russian culture is again going strong and able to withstand any enemy (the only self-proclaimed enemy of Russia is, though, naturally the jewnited states).

Russians won. Despite several rounds of unbelievable terror. Same way the terrorists in charge of the western countries can never win. If we come to our senses and extradite the terrorists now, it's very good. But it is against the testimony of history that they could win, regardless if the people realize it on time or later.
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Note that Europe (and the rest of the world) embraced humanism

Unless at least some EU countries can make Iceland-style revolution happen in 2 months, including driving the occupation force away, I will have to agree with you that the people here are clueless, and they have learned nothing from the tragedy of 9/11 and the loss of the liberties in the U.S.

Please re-read my long post again. And listen to the linked YouTube. Russia is not benevolent. The people-at-large are embracing humanism (even the Puritans did, it is a repeating aspect of human nature). Period.

Rather than embracing humanism by trying to determine which of men are good and which are evil, which is just evil humanism...

Work for the only certain truth. The only certain truth is that we are not in control. Embrace serendipity. Learn to be not vested in a perspective. Take what nature gives and synergize with it to benefit the most people. This is life. We are not in control. All those "normal people" (who think they are rational because of their misapplication of the notion of science and Occam's razor) who wish terrorism is real so they don't have to admit that the people (as in ourselves) have created (vested in) a clusterfuck of promises to themselves (ourselves) are just in denial and will perish for it.

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Hmm... I just found out about this man here. He's a former US Marine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltV-zdKdpDA

Much of what he is saying is correct. The Pentagon / DoD had a report leaked from 2012 that accepted that any Sunni terrorist group may attempt to establish themselves in eastern Syria and that Saudi / Qatari / Turkish / US backers believed this would assist in destabilising Assad, which is the main goal. And after turning two secular regimes into failed states, they are now going for three. Next up of course is Iran itself.

https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-west-saw-isis-as-strategic-asset-b99ad7a29092#.ka6ifvkuw

However, complicity is not the reason they haven't attacked Israel. On a geopolitical level I would think that the Israeli's would prefer to keep the secular Assad regime in control, although stopping the flow into hezbollah from Iran via Syria may override this. But, ISIS, the frankenstein's monster of militant groups, is following the strictest version of the end of days and to stray from it is sinful, as they state in their own propaganda. So first they deal with the Shia (whom they see as apostates), then they will deal with Sunni's from Saudi who are disbelievers, then attempt to take Turkey (before being beaten back into Syria). All the while holy war overseas is permitted to incite hatred of muslims so they will return to the caliphate. Those who flee the caliphate for Europe are seems as disbelievers.

While I see all these endless foreign policy blunders are central to the problems in the Middle East, the cat is out of the proverbial bag. ISIS is different to al qaeda in that getting rid of the western powers from the middle east is not a big part of their ideology. They've let this baby monster bloom and not foreseen the consequences. Now we all have to deal with it. And sickeningly, western powers use the terrorism and deaths to pass further restrictive laws they'd never get passed without atrocities; the shock doctrine in effect.

Do not forget the long debate I had upthread where I explained with strong evidence that the Israel's Mussod was the likely perpetrator of 9/11.

Also re-read my prior post as I added several relevant blog posts from Armstrong to our information set.

Some of those blog posts are great. Armstrong was calling the collapse of the Shengen rule. The Libya ones are also fascinating as I havent spent a lot of time reading up on it, although this is a prescient quote from Gaddafi in an open letter to NATO;

"Now listen you, people of NATO. You're bombing a wall which stood in the way of African migration to Europe, and in the way of Al-Qaeda terrorists. This wall was Libya. You're breaking it. You're idiots, and you will burn in Hell for thousands of migrants from Africa and for supporting Al-Qaeda. It will be so."

https://archive.is/v2eLd#selection-2331.211-2331.556

The actions of the US are again ghastly and seem to lack foresight. As has been said quite often about Western powers and the US, they seem to only anticipate others acting in the way they would, hence why strategies used against terrorist groups or Russia etc don't work. Forget the term commonly used, mirroring of some sort.

I don't rule out Sept 11 being carried out by a foreign power but with the amount of different 3 letter agencies I think a simpler view fits better; the CIA had tracked some of the saudi's into the US and hoped to turn them into double agents. iirc, they had tailed the masterminds from a meeting somewhere in SE Asia. They failed, lost them, didn't share that a cell was inside the US with the FBI or anyone else (pre or post attack) in order to avoid blame (and obviously jail). and the rest is history.

I understand your reading is that Israel would carry this out in order to get the US to move in the middle east, but I think shoring up their dominance in the ME had been on the cards for a long time - backing the Saudi's, securing the petrodollar, ridding the area of leaders that don't fit in their strategic aims. As we've seen it go: Iraq, Libya, Syria. Next up, Iran.


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November 22, 2015, 12:42:27 AM
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"Now listen you, people of NATO. You're bombing a wall which stood in the way of African migration to Europe, and in the way of Al-Qaeda terrorists. This wall was Libya. You're breaking it. You're idiots, and you will burn in Hell for thousands of migrants from Africa and for supporting Al-Qaeda. It will be so."

The main lubricant for evil is that good people continue to deny that evil exists. Even Gaddafi above, is seemingly appealing to the rational sense of the listeners. The listeners did not listen, because they have the innate concept of "our leaders are thinking our best". It is only when the people realize that their "leaders" have the very real agenda to exterminate them, that is: kill - and not in a fake Paris bombings way where it is hard to find even 1 facebook profile of a person who actually lost his life - these guys want to kill you for real. They are not your friends or "a little misguided".

Gaddafi stood for sanity, which is the very reason why he was removed, and shot dead. Anyone raising a voice for common sense, reason, sanity, does not deserve to live in the world order these guys are plotting. Some might have noticed I also became more active. Yes, I want to be able to sleep well in prison thinking that I pressed every ounce of my knowledge and persuasion and offered it to you, and you are carrying on the torch. Like apostle Paul, I am ready to go any day, and although for me that would be better, for you I wish to stay and be able to speak more. So it is a win-win situation: either I win directly or we all win, and in both of the cases the losers lose and go to hell soon.
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"Now listen you, people of NATO. You're bombing a wall which stood in the way of African migration to Europe, and in the way of Al-Qaeda terrorists. This wall was Libya. You're breaking it. You're idiots, and you will burn in Hell for thousands of migrants from Africa and for supporting Al-Qaeda. It will be so."

The main lubricant for evil is that good people continue to deny that evil exists. Even Gaddafi above, is seemingly appealing to the rational sense of the listeners. The listeners did not listen, because they have the innate concept of "our leaders are thinking our best". It is only when the people realize that their "leaders" have the very real agenda to exterminate them, that is: kill - and not in a fake Paris bombings way where it is hard to find even 1 facebook profile of a person who actually lost his life - these guys want to kill you for real. They are not your friends or "a little misguided".


Yes, and which side is evil depends on either your perception or the narrative you have been exposed to. Are sanctions or drone strikes as evil as beheadings or killing of opposition groups / minorities? It is estimated hundreds of thousands died during Iraq sanctions in the 90's (which Madeline Albright thought was worth it) but the Western populations didn't 'see' the effects via the media narrative. ISIS beheads apostates or non believers but was funded / armed by the US / Saudi's, and Gaddafi / Saddam / Assad committed atrocities domestically. Evil exists as long as humans do and as long as power is available. Behind the curtain, its a chess game where the pawns are the expendable populations.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-neoconservative-hit-list-iraq-libya-and-now-syria-a-plan-for-global-us-military-supremacy/5407538

(As always though, believe half of what you read, half of what you see.)


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November 22, 2015, 08:42:41 AM
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Gaddafi / Saddam / Assad committed atrocities domestically.

And in the case of Saddam, it is likely that not 100% of the reports are fabricated, so it is at least possible that some of them were true  Shocked

Keeping in mind that more people die in the USA because of the administration annually, than in any of the 3 countries above at their height, but blindness is strong here...
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New version of the popular thread about is it possible to retain your money if everything you type from the keyboard is keylogged (what kind of solutions exist where nothing you use to gain access can be used by an attacker later).

I already answered the question (but perhaps you didn't understand that the authorities can't monopolize all hardware and software configurations, so they have to monitor what goes over "the wire" i.e. the internet):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1256182.msg13030534#msg13030534

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1. Theoretically the governments can not conquer cryptography. What ever they require over the wire, can in theory be countered with steganography because even governments don't have asymmetric computing resources sufficient to overcome the probabilities of obfuscation afforded by math. (doubt they can monopolize all sources of hardware so I think they can only hope to control the routers on the network) Btw, did you see my prior post today about the failure of Cryptonote anonymity as a paradigm?

A n00b (like you apparently) should fear keyloggers because the n00b doesn't build a dedicated hardware and software system only for private keys and creating signatures. But this could be solved by making specialized devices for n00bs so they only have to press the "on" button.

And pleeaaassseee stop worrying. Even Google's lawyers admit decentralized technology is winning and they are powerless to stop it:

(and near-term is all that matters since if successful then popularity and open source will overpower any legal recourse).

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The main lubricant for evil is that good people continue to deny that evil exists.

Egregious error in philosophical logic.

Focusing on an ambiguous metric (e.g. "evil") is humanism (which I believe even the Bible says is the nature of man). Man thinks he can know or control things which he can't know nor control.

You have no way to really know who and what even in hindsight, when you are talking about complex free markets. You'd need a hearing in a court-of-law on all the pertainent facts including all the conversations between all the individuals on the globe that had a Butterfly Effect on the outcomes.

Implausible!!!!!!!!!

Nature was designed to be not only irreversible, but also untraceable (see the laws of Thermodynamics)

Btw the untraceble point is extremely profound. For example, just apply this in the narrow scope of Bitcoin transactions. There is no way you can prove beyond any doubt the trace history of a coin unless you have all the (including off chain) circumstances of every transaction in the history acyclic graph that feeds into it. For example review the point about using shorting to create external chain effects which impact the validity of the chain. The scenarios get mind bending.

Your threads are a mess...

...a perfect mess that leads to fantastic inspirations...

I've learned so much from allowing everyone to speak freely...

because I am  not omniscient...

Peace.



I don't rule out Sept 11 being carried out by a foreign power but with the amount of different 3 letter agencies I think a simpler view fits better; the CIA had tracked some of the saudi's into the US and hoped to turn them into double agents. iirc, they had tailed the masterminds from a meeting somewhere in SE Asia. They failed, lost them, didn't share that a cell was inside the US with the FBI or anyone else (pre or post attack) in order to avoid blame (and obviously jail). and the rest is history.

How can you forget all the posts I made up thread showing that it is absolutely 99.9% impossible that kerosene fueled aluminum airplanes causes steel girder buildings to collapse.  Huh

Thus your logic fail. Try again.

It is the failures in logic that destroy the power of discernment in most people.

Sorry if you work through all the scientific evidence and logic, there is only one possible conclusion. 9/11 (great resource requirements as proven by the evidence and logic) was a false flag that could realistically only be committed with the cooperation of covert side of governments and (zionist jew) Silverstein.

I am not going to repeat all the myriad of details that upthread debate again (just search for my exchanges with generalizethis).

Please don't write some more "logic fail" gibberish, because I won't have time to come back here.

P.S. not acrimonious feeling at all, you've always been amiable. Rather just emphasizing I do not have the time to correct for lack of reading comprehension in others. Please re-read the thread.

I understand your reading is that Israel would carry this out in order to get the US to move in the middle east...

Rather I think the Zionists are engineering their NWO power play, by destabilizing the Middle East to create a clusterfuck that includes Europe so the people of the world will blame each other rather than blaming the bankster corporate-fascists who have been raping the world.

But the key is to understand that the driver of this outcome are not the Zionists but rather our (the people's) humanistic desires where man believes:

  • He is higher than nature, thus he won't get bad effects from example massive use of birth control and socialism (socialized debt).
  • He can discern good from evil and thus he won't get bad effects from massive logic failure (e.g. how many of you correctly predicted Monero's Cryptnote would be be entirely useless in the widespread adoption scenario?)

Everyone should STFU about which group is evil and good and is the cause of this or that. Nature is far too complex to make sure clarity even in hindsight.

The people are unable to escape from the clusterfuck because they are determined to deny that "all the plans of mice and men" end up back at dust.

The EU is another Babylon. As are all creations of man.

Live for each day. Try to be productive. Stop trying to think we as men can pick the winners and the losers in advance. Nature works in mysteriously ways.

Be more humble!

The less grand your pronouncements and vested beliefs, then more likely you are adaptable to the truth as it comes in the future. The only certain truth now, is we do not know the certain truth.

Stop constructing fragile towers to the sky, that will tumble down.

Construct flexible paradigms, that are decentralized where no one is in control. Thus be harmonious with nature.

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TPTB_need_war,

if Putin is really on the side of the TPTB and they are conspiring to get us into WW3 and ultimately the NWO, why is the Russian establishment exposing the deeds of the "West"?

1. For instance, today Lavrov said that Turkey shooting down the plane was a a deliberate provocation.

He's basically telling everyone how "war" and "setting up fires" works.

2. A week or so ago Putin said that G20 is financing ISIS.

Again, same thing.

3. Russia's involvment in Syria is basically exposing the cards for everyone to see.

And there have been other instances where basically Putin and Russia is laying out how dirty the whole thing is, who is behind it and what their intentions are.

Are they trying to appear good but ultimately it doesn't matter because it will end up in WW3 anyways? Why aren't they escalating this? Seems to me they are doing some things on the side of "justice".

Instead of building up 2 huge opposing forces or 2 cocks you need in every good fight, it seems that he's killing one cock before it even starts. Because the crowd (cheerleaders) that would ultimately get involved is also realizing in droves where the "right side" is.

He is informing Europe and Americans what is going on and instead of spotlighting the whole nation as bad he is exposing the colours of the establishment.

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