Economic Totalitarianism

[pigzone]

There's a war coming

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[TPTB_need_war]

http://www.wired.com/2014/10/cody-wilson-ghost-gunner/

http://venturebeat.com/2015/03/26/spy-cell-towers-a-new-hunting-service-is-looking-for-you/

[trollercoaster]

https://youtu.be/jjxwVuozMnU the ghoulish wench from planned parenthood discusses harvesting body parts

[generalizethis]

https://youtu.be/jjxwVuozMnU the ghoulish wench from planned parenthood discusses harvesting body parts

Keep moving....nothing new to see here: https://generalizethis.wordpress.com/2015/07/17/the-parasite-michel-serres-and-the-solar-economy-of-data/

[OROBTC]

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To mangle Churchill:

"Capitalism is the worst system, except for all the others."


Quoting Margaret Thatcher:

"The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."


I would have thought that Serres would have been smart enough to recognize that all collectivist systems lead to ruin.  

Collectivism is the opposite of freedom.  Collectivism leads to, well, Economic Devastation.

Down with Collectivist Totalitarians, all of them: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Kim, Pol Pot, Lenin, Mussolini, Castro.  All for the guys at the top, nothing for anyone else.  Don't (didn't) like it?  Gulags or Death.

Like it or not, our country (the USA) is headed that way.

[username18333]

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

A heterarchical currency enables every individual holder of the currency to draw against the balance of every other holder of it. In the case of the G.E. coin, an individual holder's inflation of the monetary base (effectively) draws capital from other holders in accordance with the magnitude of their GEC holdings, mitigating each holder's personal losses while, simultaneously, maximizing their provision. (Furthermore, it incentives one to minimize [perhaps, through destruction] its currency holdings.)

[trollercoaster]

I realize this is nothing new, but I feel it is relevant to the discussion, I have noticed a sharp rise in degenerate behaviour over the past 3 months which is adding fuel to  big bang

[username18333]

I realize this is nothing new, but I feel it is relevant to the discussion, I have noticed a sharp rise in degenerate behaviour over the past 3 months which is adding fuel to  big bang

Democracy has been described as four wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Unmoderated majority rule means that the mistakes, the ignorance and the prejudices of the majority will become law. Minorities will be devoured, and the resulting society will be one of enforced and fearful homogeneity.

Nietzsche’s philosophy contemplates the meaning of values and their significance to human existence. Given that no absolute values exist, in Nietzsche’s worldview, the evolution of values on earth must be measured by some other means. How then shall they be understood? The existence of a value presupposes a value-positing perspective, and values are created by human beings (and perhaps other value-positing agents) as aids for survival and growth. Because values are important for the well being of the human animal, because belief in them is essential to our existence, we oftentimes prefer to forget that values are our own creations and to live through them as if they were absolute. For these reasons, social institutions enforcing adherence to inherited values are permitted to create self-serving economies of power, so long as individuals living through them are thereby made more secure and their possibilities for life enhanced. Nevertheless, from time to time the values we inherit are deemed no longer suitable and the continued enforcement of them no longer stands in the service of life. To maintain allegiance to such values, even when they no longer seem practicable, turns what once served the advantage to individuals to a disadvantage, and what was once the prudent deployment of values into a life denying abuse of power. When this happens the human being must reactivate its creative, value-positing capacities and construct new values.

[Epicurus] regarded the unacknowledged fear of death and punishment as the primary cause of anxiety among human beings, and anxiety in turn as the source of extreme and irrational desires.

[generalizethis]

I realize this is nothing new, but I feel it is relevant to the discussion, I have noticed a sharp rise in degenerate behaviour over the past 3 months which is adding fuel to  big bang

Democracy has been described as four wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Unmoderated majority rule means that the mistakes, the ignorance and the prejudices of the majority will become law. Minorities will be devoured, and the resulting society will be one of enforced and fearful homogeneity.

Nietzsche’s philosophy contemplates the meaning of values and their significance to human existence. Given that no absolute values exist, in Nietzsche’s worldview, the evolution of values on earth must be measured by some other means. How then shall they be understood? The existence of a value presupposes a value-positing perspective, and values are created by human beings (and perhaps other value-positing agents) as aids for survival and growth. Because values are important for the well being of the human animal, because belief in them is essential to our existence, we oftentimes prefer to forget that values are our own creations and to live through them as if they were absolute. For these reasons, social institutions enforcing adherence to inherited values are permitted to create self-serving economies of power, so long as individuals living through them are thereby made more secure and their possibilities for life enhanced. Nevertheless, from time to time the values we inherit are deemed no longer suitable and the continued enforcement of them no longer stands in the service of life. To maintain allegiance to such values, even when they no longer seem practicable, turns what once served the advantage to individuals to a disadvantage, and what was once the prudent deployment of values into a life denying abuse of power. When this happens the human being must reactivate its creative, value-positing capacities and construct new values.

[Epicurus] regarded the unacknowledged fear of death and punishment as the primary cause of anxiety among human beings, and anxiety in turn as the source of extreme and irrational desires.

As capitalism marches off the plank of zero marginal costs, what happens to physical value? Are we simply going to replace physical trading of assets for stuff with trading non-physical assets for non-physical values such as someone plunking down $200 dollars for a Spartan race or a tuff mudder(literally signing a death waiver and risking being burned, electrocuted, and even making good on that death waiver) just so they can put up pics online and share their accomplishment with their friends? Rats in a maze paying tolls...

Capitalism is dead and we're all scared shitless so we keep running around the track playing the "remember when?" game.

What replaces this system? We don't have a choice, but identifying it early and understanding its workings offers more insight and advantage than talking politely at the wake or discussing who was mentioned in the will.

I'll say territorial governments will be cannibalized by kinder-gentler (more efficient) corporations who will in turn be swallowed by more cost-efficient (zero-to negative* cost) DAC's.

*negative costs (at least earthly ones) could be achieved by mining resources off-world--Blade runner had this world around 2019, maybe push it back 10-15 years and add DAC's instead of the pharaoh "overlord of AI." If you've read Nick Land's Meltdown and combine it with Blade Runner, I think you'd have my vision of what the future will look like--we lose to AI, but win, because we lose our humanity 'organic parts" in a slow-burn entry into godless eternity, heaven, hell--less borg, more darth vader with R2D2's knack for going full matrix. After awhile it becomes clear, "If you don't need an organic arm or a leg or face or liver or brain....." Boom, welcome to eternal-spirit-states live on a universally expanding network of ohms. Who says those God myths weren't good for anything? They've been building our subconscious towards this goal all along.  

[OROBTC]

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They'll need lots and lots of bearings in Peru for a long time.  And since we (our Peruvian bearing import company) have very little debt, we stay out of the clutches of the banksters for a while longer.

And if we do our "Plan B" (move there), they won't be replacing my body parts for a long, long time (Peruvian doctors?).


EDIT: When my time comes to die a natural death, I hope to welcome just that.

EDIT 2: Yeah, trollercoaster, all of this bad behavior has been building at a seemingly accelerating pace.  And has everywhere I have ever been recently.  Ugh.

[Erdogan]

I realize this is nothing new, but I feel it is relevant to the discussion, I have noticed a sharp rise in degenerate behaviour over the past 3 months which is adding fuel to  big bang

There is no voice calling for liberty in Greece. Give us more, is the call, both from the political class and the people. (or else...you go down too).

[OROBTC]

I realize this is nothing new, but I feel it is relevant to the discussion, I have noticed a sharp rise in degenerate behaviour over the past 3 months which is adding fuel to  big bang

There is no voice calling for liberty in Greece. Give us more, is the call, both from the political class and the people. (or else...you go down too).

Erdogan, clap, clap, clap.  Great observation: MOAR, MOAR, MOAR!  And make the other guy pay.

No cries for liberty.  "The dog that didn't bark"

[minor-transgression]

@generalisethis - parasite is accurate. The mathematics of the financial system is
very similar to the parasite-host, and that of the predator-prey systems. There
are some important additional factors: whether the parasite adds any survival
advantage to the system; and whether the system we have converges to a bad
equilibrium.

The present financial system resembles "Monopoly" too closely. Society relies
too much on the ability and sophistication of the political system as arbiters of
coercion. When the political system is pwned by the monetary system the parasite
becomes the host. We rely on the kindness of sociopaths, of the kakistocracy,
as promoted by this system, for our survival.

So, do not rush to judge Greece, or Germany. Had the Greek parliament decided
that chaos was better than the prospects of a "bailout" we might have gained
some insights and answers while watching from what we hope is a safe distance.
As for the eternal question Qui Bono? see also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xu5sTyAXyAo#t=526

It is interesting that Ireland will pay billions for decades in a modern form of
Danegeld and only a select few insiders aware of the flow. Expect the flow to increase
until it can no longer be hid. 

[trollercoaster]

I realize this is nothing new, but I feel it is relevant to the discussion, I have noticed a sharp rise in degenerate behaviour over the past 3 months which is adding fuel to  big bang

There is no voice calling for liberty in Greece. Give us more, is the call, both from the political class and the people. (or else...you go down too).

The masses will cling to their socialism until it kills them

[generalizethis]

@generalisethis - parasite is accurate. The mathematics of the financial system is
very similar to the parasite-host, and that of the predator-prey systems. There
are some important additional factors: whether the parasite adds any survival
advantage to the system; and whether the system we have converges to a bad
equilibrium.

The present financial system resembles "Monopoly" too closely. Society relies
too much on the ability and sophistication of the political system as arbiters of
coercion. When the political system is pwned by the monetary system the parasite
becomes the host. We rely on the kindness of sociopaths, of the kakistocracy,
as promoted by this system, for our survival.

So, do not rush to judge Greece, or Germany. Had the Greek parliament decided
that chaos was better than the prospects of a "bailout" we might have gained
some insights and answers while watching from what we hope is a safe distance.
As for the eternal question Qui Bono? see also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xu5sTyAXyAo#t=526

It is interesting that Ireland will pay billions for decades in a modern form of
Danegeld and only a select few insiders aware of the flow. Expect the flow to increase
until it can no longer be hid.  

In Delueze's model, the fringes (the schizo-borders no "normal" man would or could cross) reteritorialize the blocks of the imploding towers, the golden cities, the to-big-to-fail megaplexes built on the last breathes of capitalism--these fringes consolidate resources and build the new state(s) while the old guard marches round the dying tower's doors making sure nothing gets in or out, never realizing that the transference is happening below and all their effort is wasted and most likely accelerates the demise of the dying tower.

Assume this is correct--i do.   The question becomes, "Where are the fringes? Where is the new growth happening from below? How can I gauge these reteritorializations? And why don't I add reteritorialization to my spell check and save myself some time?  

I would say that governments that keep going to corporations to solve problems: prisons, hospitals, education, ect,  are sidestepping and allowing the  more efficient link from corporation to consumer (how parasitic is this link would need some benchmark analysis to answer less philosophically, more analytically). How long does this transference last? Can the state survive? Was the idea of a physical border (the physical state) keeping us safe(r) demolished on 9/11?

[trollercoaster]

http://nypost.com/2015/07/18/obama-has-been-collecting-personal-data-for-a-secret-race-database/

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/07/wesley-clark-promotes-segregation

[OROBTC]

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Hats off to you, trollercoaster, two scary (totalitarian) articles.  Bravo.

I yesterday read the NY Post one about the various databases that O's team is preparing.  Forced desegregation, coercion on towns to ruin themselves.  Preparation to go after whomever they choose.  What kind of liberty is that?

And I smiled when I saw the crooksandliars.com name of their site.  Then I read the piece on Wesley Clark's proposal.  Scary!  Gen. Clark has proposed some weird shit since he retired, may we now see "The Real Wesley Clark" now that he no longer is in the military.

[TPTB_need_war]

Assume this is correct--i do.   The question becomes, "Where are the fringes? Where is the new growth happening from below? How can I gauge these reteritorializations?

From my vantage point, there is no dearth of innovation:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9812245
https://hn.algolia.com/?query=Who%20is%20hiring&sort=byPopularity&prefix=false&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story

The problem is the bastards have much of this innovation in check, due to the triumvirate (the real Troika) protocols of money, governance, and non-anonymous master-servant (a.k.a. client-server) internet.

It is my strong belief that if we provide the correct decentralized, anonymous protocols for those three, the spark will turn into a fledgling tidal wave hidden under the surface at sea heading towards beach fronts.

The block chain is a central component, but (afaik) everyone has been doing it (slightly but thus catastrophically) wrong.

I would say that governments that keep going to corporations to solve problems: prisons, hospitals, education, ect,  are sidestepping and allowing the  more efficient link from corporation to consumer (how parasitic is this link would need some benchmark analysis to answer less philosophically, more analytically). How long does this transference last? Can the state survive? Was the idea of a physical border (the physical state) keeping us safe(r) demolished on 9/11?

The State as a parasite can only survive in the NWO, one-world system which is a 666 red blood sucking eugenics. In my mind, the key essence point to make is that the existing system can not transition seamlessly (gradually or smoothly) to a new decentralized Knowledge Age system, because the State system is inherently centralized. Centralized systems can't slowly become decentralized. They are eaten from below until they collapse and that collapse can be very messy (deadly).

[generalizethis]

The block chain is a central component, but (afaik) everyone has been doing it (slightly but thus catastrophically) wrong.

But how to do it right? That's the big question.

[minor-transgression]

Just a couple of personal thoughts:

Socialism? - That's like worrying about a nosebleed while morbidly obese.

Keep an eye on events in Spain. They had put legislation in place to control
and to tax links on web pages. When Google refused to play ball, and cut
off services in Spanish, the legislation got stalled, and may get dropped.
They will probably try again maybe in a different format, if history repeats.

"But how to do it right? That's the big question."

I'm thinking that when the time is right, the how will not matter.