Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[BADecker]

Religion divides people & facilitates war & strife.  

Religion is used as an excuse to enslave others & invade countries.

It is used to control women & their bodies.

The Old Testament is over 5000 years old; the New Testament is over 2000 years old.

Religion is still barbaric.  

Dark Ages are over.  Maybe that's why Atheists & Agnostics dislike religion.

I could not agree more, because that is an exact quote of mine from earlier in this thread.

Thanks for the bump.  Next time consider some attribution.

Great statements here. Too bad they are false, especially the part about the Dark Ages being over. Modern science is moving us into darker ages than the Dark Ages ever had.

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[MiSKLaCH]

Great statements here. Too bad they are false, especially the part about the Dark Ages being over. Modern science is moving us into darker ages than the Dark Ages ever had.

So, just as an example... what you gonna do if you get flu? You pray your god to heal you or take meds?
Modern science, like medicine, saves thousands of lives every day... what do your god do to save people?
Why there are so many children killed by wars, hunger etc.? Where is your god when innocent people die?

Religion is the real cancer of humanity... get rid of religion and you will save millions of lives!

[dippididodaday]

....His (BADecker's) core beliefs lie in the Bible record. Why is the Bible a record? We can see from the Dead Sea Scrolls, and from other ancient sources, that the Hebrew scribes copied the Bible accurately from the time that it happened.

....Science fails because they do not want to succeed with the truth.

What you call "the Bible" is in fact a literary product, well written with intriguing narratives - with a beautiful storyline. And indeed, it is a record, but it is just that - a historical product to be examined and studied of how ancient cultures functioned. It cannot dictate conduct of life in an indoctrinating "from above" authoritative position. It's ludicrous to believe it can. Besides, the original product know as "the Bible" was accurate only in ancient times. It has been skewed and adjusted to fit with shifting zeitgeist of the groupings following it. It's badly tainted, no more original like it was millennia ago.


Science, my friend, you would have to thank and respect, for it has brought the light humanity needed. I'm not saying science is the end of it all, but without properly engaging life - as science tends to do - we would not have been where we are today.

[BADecker]

Great statements here. Too bad they are false, especially the part about the Dark Ages being over. Modern science is moving us into darker ages than the Dark Ages ever had.

So, just as an example... what you gonna do if you get flu? You pray your god to heal you or take meds?
Modern science, like medicine, saves thousands of lives every day... what do your god do to save people?
Why there are so many children killed by wars, hunger etc.? Where is your god when innocent people die?

Religion is the real cancer of humanity... get rid of religion and you will save millions of lives!

The reason I don't get the flu is because I pray to God.

Modern medicine screws people everyday by not showing them how all the "medicine" they need can be found in nature around us, right outside, growing free.

Children are killed by wars because people kill them in wars.

God is looking for the faith in people when they die. If He finds it, He holds it strong so that they can have eternal life in Heaven in the resurrection.

There aren't any innocent people except those who believe in Jesus salvation, because God then holds them innocent.

The religions of atheism and other religious non-religions are the real cancer.

[BADecker]

....His (BADecker's) core beliefs lie in the Bible record. Why is the Bible a record? We can see from the Dead Sea Scrolls, and from other ancient sources, that the Hebrew scribes copied the Bible accurately from the time that it happened.

....Science fails because they do not want to succeed with the truth.

What you call "the Bible" is in fact a literary product, well written with intriguing narratives - with a beautiful storyline. And indeed, it is a record, but it is just that - a historical product to be examined and studied of how ancient cultures functioned. It cannot dictate conduct of life in an indoctrinating "from above" authoritative position. It's ludicrous to believe it can. Besides, the original product know as "the Bible" was accurate only in ancient times. It has been skewed and adjusted to fit with shifting zeitgeist of the groupings following it. It's badly tainted, no more original like it was millennia ago.

The Bible is, at its base and core, salvation words about Jesus, the Christ. It is God's words to us so that we can be saved at the time of the resurrection.

Translations of the Bible into other languages can never be 100% accurate. There is always something lost in translation. But, there is enough in Bible translations so that people can still find Jesus and be saved. How? By God Himself talking to our hearts through the translation words.

Science, my friend, you would have to thank and respect, for it has brought the light humanity needed. I'm not saying science is the end of it all, but without properly engaging life - as science tends to do - we would not have been where we are today.

Science is an ancient thing that started shortly after mankind sinned in the Garden. Modern science includes a bunch of stupid theories that are degrading the term "science" into mixed up ignorance.

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First, science proves God exists.

Modern science includes a bunch of stupid theories that are degrading the term "science" into mixed up ignorance.

Yeah, sounds about right. 

[BADecker]

First, science proves God exists.

Modern science includes a bunch of stupid theories that are degrading the term "science" into mixed up ignorance.

Yeah, sounds about right. 

Well, thank you Fluffer. You are finally getting it. Now, don't fight God. Rather get into the New Testament and strengthen your weak faith in Him.

[MiSKLaCH]

The reason I don't get the flu is because I pray to God.
(lots of other bullshits)

The psychiatric ward is awaiting you, DUMBecker.

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I don't get the flu and I don't pray to any God(s). 

[BADecker]

I don't get the flu and I don't pray to any God(s). 

You are such an infant, Fluffer. God has special mercy on infants.

[BADecker]

The reason I don't get the flu is because I pray to God.
(lots of other bullshits)

The psychiatric ward is awaiting you, DUMBecker.

You can't keep yourself alive. You will die.

God doesn't want you to die. But since you can't keep yourself alive, what could God do?

God sent His son, Jesus, in the form of a man, a man that has the strength of God, to handle all the complexity of nature that mankind and its science can't.

Jesus perfected the way to eternal life for all of us. And He offers it freely, because there is no way that we could ever pay enough to buy it from Him.

The only thing that Jesus requires is faith that He will do it for us. But that faith has to be on an individual basis, since there are those who will never believe.

I will live forever, because I accept Jesus salvation. If Jesus doesn't return before I die, then I will be resurrected with all dead people at the last day. After that, I will receive everlasting life.

Incidentally, when Jesus perfected eternal life for us all, He did an upgrade on us. Our new life will be a super-powered life when compared with this life. It will be one wherein we will never be able to die. Because of this, make sure that you are believing in Jesus salvation. Because if you reject, you will still receive the everlasting life, even though you are cast out by God.

There is nothing you can do about it... one way or another. Why not? Because God is in control. Either you accept God, or you will be cast out into an everlasting, living destruction, at the time of the resurrection.

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I believe Jesus salvation is a load of twaddle.

I passed. Heaven here I come....           

[BADecker]

I believe Jesus salvation is a load of twaddle.

I passed. Heaven here I come....           

Perhaps the Holy Spirit has been able to maintain Jesus salvation in you all this while, because of your infantile humility. But if you continue to NOT confess it correctly, and especially if you continue to express it incorrectly, you will wind up pushing the Holy Spirit out of your life, and losing your salvation.

[TooQik]

Nobody, no scientist or anyone else has any real idea how this universe came to be.

Are you now admitting that you don't know how the universe came to be? That would seem to go against your core beliefs that you often post about on this forum.

His core beliefs are just blind guesses. Big bang and evolution are theories. Theories are stronger than guesses. Of course that doesn't mean they are correct, that's why they are called theories.
Even if tomorrow someone gave us 100% irrefutable proof big bang and evolution were correct, do you think BADlogic would roll over and admit he got it all wrong? Of course not.  
He's not interested in the truth; just his flawed nonsense.

Just ignore him. You cannot educate a clown that refuses to be educated.

Couldn't agree more with your sentiments above but sometimes it's fun to engage people in conversation / debate about our differences. It's not necessarily about educating someone else, but also learning and challenging ourselves.

[TooQik]

Are you now admitting that you don't know how the universe came to be? That would seem to go against your core beliefs that you often post about on this forum.

What are you even talking about? Where have I ever said anything about the way or methods that God used to create the universe? The closest that we have to God's methods is that He spoke some details of the formation of the Earth and life on it into being. God is a spirit. How does a spirit speak? I never expressed how God speaks.

I was talking about the fact that you believe your God created the universe but failed to mention it in your original reply. Normally you never miss an opportunity to tell everyone about this so I thought that maybe you'd been rethinking your position. Nothing was mentioned about the way or methods until you raised it above.

Personally I think it's all rather simple, everything is energy and in a constant state of transition from one form of energy to another.

We all seem to have the ability to think things. It is a wonderful thing that we can think. Now lets think in ways that show us the truth, rather than simply making up ideas with out thought.

I agree, thinking is a wonderful thing. It allows us the freedom to explore ideas, notions, reasons, meaning and all sorts of wonderful things within ourselves, free from the judgment of others. It's only when we convey these thoughts that we often open ourselves to the ridicule of others who feel that what we are conveying is simply a whim and not something that has been mulled over for a long time and reached after much investigation, exploration and education.

Just because we don't currently understand the how and why does not mean that we'll never be able to understand it.

This doesn't mean that we will ever be able to understand it, either.

While what you say is true, unlike yourself I have greater faith in the abilities of human beings. If given enough opportunity I believe there isn't much that we won't be able to one day explain that doesn't require a faith based in religion. I feel that the only thing that could potentially stop us is some catastrophic event that either wipes us out or removes our collective knowledge.

[BADecker]

Are you now admitting that you don't know how the universe came to be? That would seem to go against your core beliefs that you often post about on this forum.

What are you even talking about? Where have I ever said anything about the way or methods that God used to create the universe? The closest that we have to God's methods is that He spoke some details of the formation of the Earth and life on it into being. God is a spirit. How does a spirit speak? I never expressed how God speaks.

I was talking about the fact that you believe your God created the universe but failed to mention it in your original reply.

Now, look at how easy that was for you. If you had mentioned it right away, I could have responded differently.

Normally you never miss an opportunity to tell everyone about this so I thought that maybe you'd been rethinking your position. Nothing was mentioned about the way or methods until you raised it above.

"Are you now admitting that you don't know how the universe came to be?" Actually, this part is where you mentioned about the way or methods... in that little word "how." If you didn't mean the way or methods, why didn't you express what you meant? The fact that God created the universe is undeniable. You might think that you are denying it, but you really aren't and can't.

Personally I think it's all rather simple, everything is energy and in a constant state of transition from one form of energy to another.

We all seem to have the ability to think things. It is a wonderful thing that we can think. Now lets think in ways that show us the truth, rather than simply making up ideas with out thought.

I agree, thinking is a wonderful thing. It allows us the freedom to explore ideas, notions, reasons, meaning and all sorts of wonderful things within ourselves, free from the judgment of others. It's only when we convey these thoughts that we often open ourselves to the ridicule of others who feel that what we are conveying is simply a whim and not something that has been mulled over for a long time and reached after much investigation, exploration and education.

Universal cause and effect as upheld by Newton's 3rd Law, shows that the things that people think were caused in them. They didn't really have the freedom to think, even though they felt that they did.

Just because we don't currently understand the how and why does not mean that we'll never be able to understand it.

This doesn't mean that we will ever be able to understand it, either.

While what you say is true, unlike yourself I have greater faith in the abilities of human beings. If given enough opportunity I believe there isn't much that we won't be able to one day explain that doesn't require a faith based in religion. I feel that the only thing that could potentially stop us is some catastrophic event that either wipes us out or removes our collective knowledge.

You are coming close to being accurate. Your greater faith in human beings who are pushed into their positions by cause and effect, have God to blame for their actions. But, God has held a little piece of freedom open to people - their strength of faith in Him - and He simply takes that strength of faith and matches it with the cause and effect that He produces in people. So, while it is God acting, He is acting according to what the people ask of Him, even though they don't realize they are asking.

When anybody acts this closely to God, there very definitely are great abilities available to them.

[serbad]

I would just like to say that the bible is some of the oldest history we have.
A lot of science is done by people trying to rewrite history in order to deceive.
All religion is spin on the good book.
I believe in the creator.
One should not be so brave as to denounce god.

[popcorn1]

....His (BADecker's) core beliefs lie in the Bible record. Why is the Bible a record? We can see from the Dead Sea Scrolls, and from other ancient sources, that the Hebrew scribes copied the Bible accurately from the time that it happened.

....Science fails because they do not want to succeed with the truth.

What you call "the Bible" is in fact a literary product, well written with intriguing narratives - with a beautiful storyline. And indeed, it is a record, but it is just that - a historical product to be examined and studied of how ancient cultures functioned. It cannot dictate conduct of life in an indoctrinating "from above" authoritative position. It's ludicrous to believe it can. Besides, the original product know as "the Bible" was accurate only in ancient times. It has been skewed and adjusted to fit with shifting zeitgeist of the groupings following it. It's badly tainted, no more original like it was millennia ago.

The Bible is, at its base and core, salvation words about Jesus, the Christ. It is God's words to us so that we can be saved at the time of the resurrection.

Translations of the Bible into other languages can never be 100% accurate. There is always something lost in translation. But, there is enough in Bible translations so that people can still find Jesus and be saved. How? By God Himself talking to our hearts through the translation words.

Science, my friend, you would have to thank and respect, for it has brought the light humanity needed. I'm not saying science is the end of it all, but without properly engaging life - as science tends to do - we would not have been where we are today.

Science is an ancient thing that started shortly after mankind sinned in the Garden. Modern science includes a bunch of stupid theories that are degrading the term "science" into mixed up ignorance.

I am confused.com..
Best thing for you to do is go and stick a cross up your butt hole and sing to JESUS..

I suppose i am going to hell ..But i be ok because me and the devil got something in common we hate god ..So party time ..

BADECKER the Ewok Thinks C3PO is a God - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk_HB2Pdk2M..

[popcorn1]

I would just like to say that the bible is some of the oldest history we have.
A lot of science is done by people trying to rewrite history in order to deceive.
All religion is spin on the good book.
I believe in the creator.
One should not be so brave as to denounce god.

I tell your gods to go and fuck them selves ..I am way more powerful..
Atheist will rule the world ..

I watched on telly you Christians in america with your banners the hate i fucking hate you..
You start the hate we atheist will finish it..We own the science you own a bible so fuck off..
You bible bashing bumming worms..
Go and get a proper job instead of bumming money off the public for preaching BULLSHIT you fucking BUMS ..DONATIONS  ..FUCKING BUMS..

ANY donations please you fucking bums like street begging TRAMPS.. ..

We yanks don't believe in socialism BUT WE WILL BUM OFF THE PUBLIC FOR MONEY..
Any donations any donations FUCKING BEGGING BUMS..

But please do religious people carry on it lowers the population.. more for me then ..

[akosipepot]

I tell your gods to go and fuck them selves ..I am way more powerful..
Atheist will rule the world ..

That so harsh mate,and thinking that your are the most powerful then Fuck your self.You are not atheist,your just claiming to be and pretending that you are the most powerful haha.but in reality your are the shitty weaklings in the world.for me I just believe in god but not a shitty religion.